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1. Coolidge
   C. U. Douglas

   @CUDouglas

   

   2:15 PM EDT ⋅ Jun 19, 2014

   Salvatore Padula:

   KC Mulville:

   Twenty-somethings trying to explain things to twenty-somethings.

   Dude, the Constitution was like, more than ten years ago.

   I don’t think ignorance of public policy is a uniquely, or even particularly, twenty-something vice.

    Maybe not, but they do present it as a virtue.

2. Inactive
   flownover

   @flownover

   2:24 PM EDT ⋅ Jun 19, 2014

   As the headlines ( elsewhere of course) trumpet the takeover of Saddam’s WMD by ISIS, VOX tries to get out in front of the Iraq blame game . I blame Vogue magazine for giving Assad an inflated ego. 

   The Telegraph has the WMD story. 
   Because if it’s the truth, you won’t read it in America’a papers !

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   user_653084

   @SalvatorePadula

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   2:30 PM EDT ⋅ Jun 19, 2014

   C. U. Douglas:

   Salvatore Padula:

   KC Mulville:

   Twenty-somethings trying to explain things to twenty-somethings.

   Dude, the Constitution was like, more than ten years ago.

   I don’t think ignorance of public policy is a uniquely, or even particularly, twenty-something vice.

   Maybe not, but they do present it as a virtue.

   I actually think that the main generational difference with regard to public policy ignorance is that older people are more likely to justify their ignorance of the details of a particular policy by referencing their general life experience. For example, about two weeks ago I had a conversation with a fifty-something railroad union member who dismissed his complete ignorance of the mechanics of right-to-work laws by informing me that he’s “been in a union for thirty years, so [he] know[s] all about that sort of thing.” Younger know-nothings do not have access to that particular rhetorical crutch.

   Also, to preempt the “Dude, that was like two years ago” example of the callowness of youth, I would point out that it is not substantively much different from “What difference does it make at this point?”

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   AIG

   @AIG

   2:55 PM EDT ⋅ Jun 19, 2014

   At first I read your post as being serious, and went to read the Dick Cheney piece, thinking maybe there was something that would enlighten me. Obviously I didn’t make it past point #3 on their list, so I had to come back here thinking I had to write a comment about “what are you talking about?” 

   But then it become obvious you were being sarcastic.

   Next time, think of the rest of us who don’t pick up sarcasm right away. Just wasted 5 minutes on Vox, and gave them more traffic.

   PS: Say, couldn’t you substitute the name”Dick Cheney” for “Bill Clinton” or “Hillary Clinton”, and everything would be the same?

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   Reckless Endangerment

   @RecklessEndangerment

   3:19 PM EDT ⋅ Jun 19, 2014

   Couldn’t have said it better Sal

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   user_959530

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   5:36 PM EDT ⋅ Jun 19, 2014

   Salvatore Padula: Vox continues to do God’s work

   If any post on Ricochet begins as above, then you should presume the post is sarcastic.

7. Inactive
   user_86050

   @KCMulville

   5:43 PM EDT ⋅ Jun 19, 2014

   Salvatore Padula:

   KC Mulville:

   Twenty-somethings trying to explain things to twenty-somethings.

   Dude, the Constitution was like, more than ten years ago.

   I don’t think ignorance of public policy is a uniquely, or even particularly, twenty-something vice.

    True, but the topic at the moment isn’t cultural ignorance in general. It’s Vox in particular. 

   I’d certainly agree that no one has a monopoly (or is immune from) ignorance.

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   Grendel

   @Grendel

   

   7:59 PM EDT ⋅ Jun 19, 2014

   Salvatore Padula: The second mistake (one to which left-leaning wonks are particularly prone) is that they refuse to acknowledge that they have a personal ideology which informs their policy analysis and preference. They tend to think of themselves as post-ideological, viewing their policy preferences as solely the product of objective analysis.

    This is what Progressivism is all about:  Trained, expert technocrats can make much better decisions and policy than venal politicians elected by the moronic, banal masses.  If they were humble and diffident, they wouldn’t be Progressives.

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   Ryan M

   @RyanM

   10:29 PM EDT ⋅ Jun 19, 2014

   Salvatore Padula:

   Donald Todd: “Vox continues to do God’s work”. I don’t know what to do with that one.

   Are you familiar with the concept of sarcasm?

    I was assuming that Donald Todd was saying he couldn’t improve on the sarcasm.  :)  

10. Inactive
    user_928618

    @JimLion

    10:53 PM EDT ⋅ Jun 19, 2014

    Sorry, after glancing through this Dick Cheney article, I’m not too impressed by Vox. Already I’ve found three errors and one unsubstantiated rumor in the first 4 items.

11. Inactive
    Devereaux

    @Devereaux

    4:16 AM EDT ⋅ Jun 20, 2014

    I’m depressed.

    I know the left is mostly foolish, even the smart ones. I debate with one, a classmate from by Basic School class, on a regular basis. He never really scores any points, just kind of fades to black. I joke that when he can’t say anything even half way intelligent on Big Government and the item of debate, he falls back on the wonders of the Interstate Highway System. But this.

    Still, I’m depressed. Maybe a glass of wine at 6AM might help.

12. Coolidge
    C. U. Douglas

    @CUDouglas

    

    7:56 AM EDT ⋅ Jun 20, 2014

    Funny thing, I mentioned that my brother regularly refers to Vox.com. Well guess which Vox-post he shared on Facebook yesterday…

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    Frank Soto

    @FrankSoto

    11:40 AM EDT ⋅ Jun 20, 2014

    Wow, everyone’s sarcasm detectors are on the fritz.  Do we have anyone here who calibrates these things?

14. Coolidge
    C. U. Douglas

    @CUDouglas

    

    11:43 AM EDT ⋅ Jun 20, 2014

    Frank Soto:

    Wow, everyone’s sarcasm detectors are on the fritz. Do we have anyone here who calibrates these things?

    My sarcasmometer is working just fine. I can tell because it always goes nuts whenever you post.

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    user_358258

    @RandyWebster

    2:08 PM EDT ⋅ Jun 20, 2014

    Salvatore Padula:

    I think a lot of the problem with wonkiness is that self-proclaimed wonks frequently make two incorrect assumptions.

    No, Sal.  The problem with wonkiness is that it exists at all.  If the Feds are getting so far into our lives that it takes wonks to figure out the effects, and decide which ones to promote, we’re lost.  And I think we are.

16. Member
    user_961

    @DuaneOyen

    

    9:43 AM EDT ⋅ Jun 21, 2014

    I’m really with it.  Before this post, I’d never heard of Vox.