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  1. Arahant Member
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    I may borrow that line for a friend of mine who is working on the Davis campaign.

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  2. Tuck Inactive
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    LOL.  Troll. ;)

    I think you’re right, in a way, but I think they have more to distinguish them than in common.

    And I think those distinctions tell you a lot about the differences between the two parties.

    Their treatment of their families, for starters…

    (I’m a big Palin fan, btw.)

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  3. 1967mustangman Inactive
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    I would buy that on the surface.  Both of them are attractive (both physically and as candidates) and both are reviled by their opponents, but I think the resemblance ends there.  Ms. Davis appears to be a real peace of work and not someone I would want running my local utility board let alone my state.  Mrs Palin on the other hand was by all accounts a good governor before she abandoned her post (I still have qualms about her because of this).

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  4. Kay of MT Inactive
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    1967mustangman:

    I would buy that on the surface. Both of them are attractive (both physically and as candidates) and both are reviled by their opponents, but I think the resemblance ends there. Ms. Davis appears to be a real peace of work and not someone I would want running my local utility board let alone my state. Mrs Palin on the other hand was by all accounts a good governor before she abandoned her post (I still have qualms about her because of this).

     Research why she stepped down as governor. She was being slapped with frivolous lawsuits over and over, she had to respond to and didn’t think the taxpayers of Alaska should foot the bill. She and her family weren’t wealthy enough to pay for the high price attorneys.  I thought the same as you until I researched it.

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  5. 1967mustangman Inactive
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    Kay of MT:

    1967mustangman:

    I would buy that on the surface. Both of them are attractive (both physically and as candidates) and both are reviled by their opponents, but I think the resemblance ends there. Ms. Davis appears to be a real peace of work and not someone I would want running my local utility board let alone my state. Mrs Palin on the other hand was by all accounts a good governor before she abandoned her post (I still have qualms about her because of this).

    Research why she stepped down as governor. She was being slapped with frivolous lawsuits over and over, she had to respond to and didn’t think the taxpayers of Alaska should foot the bill. She and her family weren’t wealthy enough to pay for the high price attorneys. I thought the same as you until I researched it.

     Huh well I guess you are right.  My qualms about her have been put to rest.  Yeah Sarah! Boo Wendy!

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  6. Anneke9 Member
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    I’ll buy that analogy when I see the Democrat establishment turn on Wendy the way the Republicans turned on Palin.

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  7. Seawriter Contributor
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    Anneke9: I’ll buy that analogy when I see the Democrat establishment turn on Wendy the way the Republicans turned on Palin.

    Well . . .  since you asked, there is this.  Seems as if the Democratic Governors Association is throwing her under the bus.

    (And the wheels of the bus go bumpity-bump.)

    But the comparison isn’t really fair to Sarah Palin.  She got “othered” by the mainstream media.   Abortion Barbie has done the damage to herself.  (And Palin did not start out as a Democrat and turn Republican the way Davis ditched the Republican party when she ditched her husband.)

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  8. user_409996 Member
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    I don’t think the Democratic establishment will turn on Sarah Palin the way the Republican establishment did.  They have already begun writing Wendy Davis off, and she has reacted angrily to this.

    It is quite possible that Wendy Davis will meet a lot of polite indifference from the Democratic Party, as someone who showed very early on that she just did not have what it took to be the star she wanted to be.

    I mean, look at Sandra Fluke.  If you can find her that is.  She seems to have dropped off the face of the Earth.

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  9. Seawriter Contributor
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    Edward Smith: I mean, look at Sandra Fluke.  If you can find her that is.  She seems to have dropped off the face of the Earth.

    Isn’t Fluke running for the California legislature?  I thought the California Dems offered her that in exchange for not running for a seat in the House of Representatives.  I might be wrong on that.

    Seawriter 

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  10. PracticalMary Member
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    Why troll when upstanding conservative women have nothing more interesting to report on either?

    http://thefederalist.com/2014/04/27/no-sarah-palin-baptism-isnt-a-good-punchline-for-a-terrorist-joke/

    http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/04/29/sarah-palin-waterboarding-is-how-we-baptize-terrorists/

    *not to leave out Ann/Laura from the beginning….

    Also NRO and The American Conservative got in on it. Definitely not one of ‘us’ if you’re one of them I guess.

    http://us4palin.com/mark-levin-eviscerates-nro-dreher-over-palin-attacks/#commentform

    Levin went on, “you may not agree with her — you may not agree with how she speaks or what she says but SCREW YOU! You do nothing.”

     

    Levin then slammed Brennan by saying “you sit there on your ass and you type away at your keyboard and then you go to your little social circles and you’re proud of yourself, probably sending the link all over the place. Who have you helped? Who have you supported? What have you done?”

     

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  11. Anneke9 Member
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    Seawriter:

    Edward Smith: I mean, look at Sandra Fluke. If you can find her that is. She seems to have dropped off the face of the Earth.

    Isn’t Fluke running for the California legislature? I thought the California Dems offered her that in exchange for not running for a seat in the House of Representatives. I might be wrong on that.

    Seawriter

    She is. But she’s running in a CA Senate District filled with other Dem candidates… who are raising more money.

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  12. Dr Steve Member
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    Wendy had a sugar daddy, a sympathetic party, a moondog-breathy press, and then floundered under her own steam. She now has indifference from her erstwhile supporters when she didn’t pay off for the party. Sarah had a strong family, an antagonistic press, and a threatened party. She suffered some “setbacks,” some of her own making, some because she was pushed, and she is still kicking. And still has the family. Sarah’s only 50, and who knows what challenges will kill the career or make it. She may flounder, she may fly, but she ain’t done yet. Wendy is done.

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  13. Mollie Hemingway Member
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    PracticalMary:

    Why troll when upstanding conservative women have nothing more interesting to report on either?

    http://thefederalist.com/2014/04/27/no-sarah-palin-baptism-isnt-a-good-punchline-for-a-terrorist-joke/

    http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/04/29/sarah-palin-waterboarding-is-how-we-baptize-terrorists/

    *not to leave out Ann/Laura from the beginning….

    Also NRO and The American Conservative got in on it. Definitely not one of ‘us’ if you’re one of them I guess.

    http://us4palin.com/mark-levin-eviscerates-nro-dreher-over-palin-attacks/#commentform

    Levin went on, “you may not agree with her — you may not agree with how she speaks or what she says but SCREW YOU! You do nothing.”

     I like how I’ve spent five years and tens of thousands of words defending Palin against horrible treatment in the media. But my legit and quite balanced criticism of her waterboarding as baptism comments have yielded unbelievable vitriol from her defenders.

    Fun week. Sigh.

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  14. Kay of MT Inactive
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    I’m not going to criticize her for her remarks. It was in response to all the garbage about “torture” of prisoners, and hurting the feelings of those poor, mistreated Muslims. Being politically correct. A person can’t say one little word against Islam. When they chop off the heads of our people they kidnap or capture. Good thing I don’t have the floor, I’d say a lot worse.

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  15. user_124695 Inactive
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    As far as I recall, Mrs Palin didn’t have a sugar daddy to help her through college. Other than that, and that one is a Conservative and the other a, er, Liberal, yeah, they are just the same.

    If you don’t see the difference, it explains our current occupant in the White House, and the next one – what difference, at this point, does it make?

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  16. Wylee Coyote Member
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    Whatever the similarities or differences, the question itself is a great tool for annoying the Left.  For that, you have our thanks, Fredo!

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  17. Seawriter Contributor
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    Anneke9: She [Sandra Fluke] is. But she’s running in a CA Senate District filled with other Dem candidates… who are raising more money.

     I kind of hope Fluke wins.  Not because I feel she deserves it, but rather because I suspect being a machine pol who reliably and unthinkingly votes the party line represents the upper limit of her abilities.  At least she will pay taxes on that type of governmental assistance (her salary), while the other candidates have at least a small chance of doing something more productive with their lives than being a California state legislator.

    Mind, that is a very low bar, but just as someone has to clean out septic tanks, or clear road-kill from the highways, someone has to serve as legislators in safe Democrat seats in the California legislature.

    Seawriter

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  18. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    I have yet to see anyone on the right respond to Wendy Davis with anything approaching the sort of existential fear and unhinged hatred that the left has for Sarah Palin. Wendy Davis is a joke; Sarah Palin makes the other side soil themselves.

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  19. PracticalMary Member
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    Mollie Hemingway:

    PracticalMary:

    Why troll when upstanding conservative women have nothing more interesting to report on either?

    http://thefederalist.com/2014/04/27/no-sarah-palin-baptism-isnt-a-good-punchline-for-a-terrorist-joke/

    http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/04/29/sarah-palin-waterboarding-is-how-we-baptize-terrorists/

    *not to leave out Ann/Laura from the beginning….

    Also NRO and The American Conservative got in on it. Definitely not one of ‘us’ if you’re one of them I guess.

    http://us4palin.com/mark-levin-eviscerates-nro-dreher-over-palin-attacks/#commentform

    Levin went on, “you may not agree with her — you may not agree with how she speaks or what she says but SCREW YOU! You do nothing.”

    I like how I’ve spent five years and tens of thousands of words defending Palin against horrible treatment in the media. But my legit and quite balanced criticism of her waterboarding as baptism comments have yielded unbelievable vitriol from her defenders.

    Fun week. Sigh.

    All undone while you got your VERY important point across…what was it again?

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  20. Fredösphere Inactive
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    For the record: trolling?–heh, yes, I confess that was one of my motives. But this comparison of these two (otherwise very different) women popped into my head as I read of the recent reports regarding Wendy Davis’ struggling campaign (some of them a bit bizarre) and I thought how Davis was an attractive female candidate who did not live up to the initial hopes of her party, like Palin.

    Other than that, the two are not similar at all. Most importantly, Palin does not have the apparent character flaws of Davis.

    Regarding the defense of Palin’s resignation: can we hear more details, please? Maybe a separate post? I’m still skeptical. No matter how bad the pressure, the resignation seems like a surrender. Was there really no better way to respond to the attacks?

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  21. JimGoneWild Coolidge
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    Can I say the obvious or is it against Ricochet policy?   They are both HOT!!!   Did everyone miss that? 

    OK, the PC answer: Sarah is leader and awesome. Wendy is liar and a 3rd rate opportunist.

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  22. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    Mollie Hemingway: I like how I’ve spent five years and tens of thousands of words defending Palin against horrible treatment in the media. But my legit and quite balanced criticism of her waterboarding as baptism comments have yielded unbelievable vitriol from her defenders.

    A cult of personality whose adherents consider her the savior of the American dream and will lash out angrily at the slightest criticism?

     Better comparison: Sarah Palin is the Barack Obama of the right?

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  23. PracticalMary Member
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    http://askmarion.wordpress.com/2014/04/29/sarah-palin-the-case-for-a-palin-candidacy-for-president-in-2016/

    *This article is exactly how I (and my husband) think but there is so little support from the Right media (not to mention Republicans…hmmm) it’s a long shot. Also, if you bring it up you are rabid Palin FAN, not just a SUPPORTER like if it’s Rand Paul or Walker. Fortunately there are several good candidates coming up (of course none with their already built huge support group- oh, I mean cult. Bet they wish they knew how to grow a cult!). The Quitter meme not answered after all these years (it’s so hard). Pretty soon somebody will mention she has made MONEY from all of this and her whacko followers (mostly weak minded women folk probably). To quote Molly, ‘Sigh’.

    What a lost opportunity (so far anyway). 

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  24. Fredösphere Inactive
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    There’s one other fact that’s worth keeping in mind. It was illustrated by an interview I heard once with a well-known sci-fi author. The interview wasn’t about politics at all, it was about the author’s career arc and work habits. Out of the blue, the author mentioned that her work day always began (this was maybe 3 years ago) by googling for the latest news about Sarah Palin. This author, a left-winger, absolutely could not begin her work day until she had shot her veins full of her daily fix of Palinisms.

    I thought her admission was unintentionally hilarious, and a bit pathetic. But it goes to show that much of the media froth surrounding every mention of the name “Sarah Palin” is generated by left-wingers. Sarah Palin is a specialty niche of pornography for a non-trivial number of people in this world which has a perverse, exaggerating effect on her enduring popularity.

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  25. Athena Inactive
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    As a long-term Alaskan, I’d like to respond to Fredosphere on Palin’s resignation.  I think the idea of the lawsuits as monetarily overwhelming contributed to her resignation, but it was not the main reason.  

    Sarah was liked by a large majority of the population (sometimes over 80%) and worked well with both conservatives and democrats in the legislature (the moderate republicans were against her from the very beginning because she called out their corruption).

    When John McCain chose her as VP, it was shocking to see the about face by the Left in Juneau.  People who were glad to partner with her and be friendly turned on her in vicious ways.  After the election, the intensity of vitriol and ethics complaints increased, pushed by moderate republicans and democrats alike.  It crippled her administration’s ability to move forward; Juneau was a circus the likes of which I have never seen before or since. (cont.)

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  26. Athena Inactive
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    For Sarah, politics was never about holding her position and improving her stake on the national scene. It was about serving the people who elected her. When she resigned, as much as I hated to see it for all the reasons others have stated, I knew that it was the best way she knew to put the people of her state before herself.  After she left, the Lt. Gov., Sean Parnell, received very little pushback and moved forward with Palin’s agenda without having the albatross of being the anti-Obama around his neck.  

    We say we want people of conviction and sacrifice and service in office, but sometimes what we really want is power-hungry people who will do and say anything to stay in power so long as they vote the way we want.  I am not saying that there are not times a person must push back and through a circumstance, but a good leader also knows when to step aside for the good of the cause.

    Why did Sarah resign?  Because it isn’t about Sarah.

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  27. Arahant Member
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    And once she was chosen as running mate, the left sent lawyers to Alaska from all over the country to cause a nuisance.  As Athena said, Gov. Palin knew getting the work done was more important than who got the credit.

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  28. user_409996 Member
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    Having seen how well Sarah Palin carried off that comic skit with Jimmy Fallon (she is a flautist as well – I did not know that) I can see why there is Sarah Palin porn.

    Sarah Palin is much sexier than Wendy Davis (I mean, what’s so sexy about a Gold Digger?).

    But Republicans are much to classy to be in the porn business, and even if they were, who would want to see Wendy Davis porn?  It would be a step up the ladder from Lena Dunham porn (less fat and crack – Bill Maher joked that Dunham shows more crack than a hundred plumbers), but still pretty damed rancid.

    That’s as much bile as I am willing to express on either Wendy Davis or Lena Dunham.  May God bless Wendy Davis and Lena Dunham … and keep the both of them far away from me or anyone I care about.

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  29. MJBubba Member
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    Further regarding Sarah Palin’s resignation.  It should be noted that Alaska has a ridiculously easy process to file a complaint under state ethics law, but that a defense can be time consuming and costly.   Wikipedia has an incomplete history that can serve as a starting place: 
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin

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  30. MJBubba Member
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    Since 2009 Alaska has changed both their ethics law and their FOIA law to limit the potential that they could be used as attack vehicles in the future.

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