You Gotta Be Kidding Me

 

I’ve been traveling a lot so if someone already posted this and I missed it, forgive me. Director Oliver Stone is making a documentary for Showtime called “The Secret History of America,” in which he seeks to put Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin “in context.” He told the London Times:

“Hitler was a Frankenstein but there was also a Dr Frankenstein. German industrialists, the Americans and the British. He had a lot of support.

Part of the problem, he says, is that the Holocaust is being over-emphasized. Why? Why else?

The Jewish domination of the media. There’s a major lobby in the United States. They are hard workers. They stay on top of every comment, the most powerful lobby in Washington. Israel has f***** up United States foreign policy for years.

When Mel Gibson got drunk and spouted anti-semitic garbage to a cop, agent Ari Emanuel, brother to Rahm, demanded he be blacklisted. When Mel spouted disgusting garbage at his girlfriend, Ari’s agency dropped him.

Stone thinks those sneaky Jews have been taking Hitler out of context and making him look bad. Any reaction, Hollywood? Nah, as long as he’s not going around praising Jesus. That would be beyond the pale.

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    @MelFoil

    I don’t think Oliver Stone has a soul. He probably sold it to the Devil, or Hugo (same thing,) to allow him to be such a colossal a-hole and still work on large-budget projects with normal human beings.

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    @cdor

    I hear, ‘Oliver Stone’, and I move on. I only read this because Klavan wrote it,

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    @Fredosphere
    cdor: I hear, ‘Oliver Stone’, and I move on. I only read this because Klavan wrote it, · Jul 26 at 9:54am

    Cdor, you wrote what could have been the exact words I was going to write.

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    @DianeEllis

    In some small way, Oliver Stone touches upon a question I’ve had for a while now. Why are there so many movies written about the holocaust? There’s always at least one or two new ones per year, even 65 years after the fact. These are important films, lest we ever forget or repeat the atrocities that happened under Hitler. But why aren’t films written about the atrocities committed by Stalin? Or about the suffering inflicted upon legions by Mao, or Pol Pot? Or about the devastation caused by the Japanese during the Nanking Massacre?

    Hollywood writers write about what’s important to them (and what makes the big bucks, of course). The Holocaust is what’s important to these writers, many of whom are indeed Jewish. But it’s a shame that so many Americans’ knowledge and understanding of history hinges upon what movies Hollywood produces, and it is therefore lamentable that Hollywood focuses exclusively on the Holocaust.

    The solution: reforming the public school system. Trash talking Hollywood never quite seems to have its desired effect.

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    @tabularasa
    Diane Ellis, Ed.: The solution: reforming the public school system. Trash talking Hollywood never quite seems to have its desired effect. · Jul 26 at 10:19am

    Diane: I agree, but reforming the school system is hard, trashing Hollywood is both easy and fun–you are correct that it never gets the desired effect, but think of all the invective you can get out of your system.

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    @AndrewKlavan

    Diane, I’m convinced that Hollywood writes a lot of movies not just about the Holocaust but about the Nazis in general because opposing Nazism was the last time the left was ever right about anything. I know there are arguments about whether Nazism was a left-wing movement (it was psycho-pathological and ideologically all over the place), but the American left opposed it in ways they could never bring themselves to oppose Communism. Thus there are approximately zero films about the gulags. And when they did eke one out about the Khmer Rouge (“The Killing Fields”) they managed to give it a left wing hero – Sydney Schanberg – who blames Pol Pot on America! When they made a true story about the Cold War (“Charlie Wilson’s War”), the hero was, wait for it, a democrat and Reagan is hardly mentioned. As if! As. If.

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    @DuaneOyen

    Well, Uncle Joe was very charming when having dinner with future Senator Paul Douglas back in 1927. ‘Course, Bukharin kind of missed that side of him.

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    @Claire

    This is exactly why I brought up the idea of a Presidential address. When filth like this is mainstream, things have gone way, way too far. It’s a genuine emergency. Yes, Stone is known as a crackpot. But watch: These comments will disappear, almost unremarked. What he’s saying is no longer shocking.

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    @DuaneOyen

    Do you wonder if this would have been properly slammed if he had stuck to Hitler, but the inclusion of Stalin offers a socialist protective cover? I keep expecting van den Heuvel to rehabilitate Stalin any moment.

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    @EJHill

    We keep returning to WWII as source material in the media for lots of reasons. First, it’s still an America we can relate to. Everything that we are familiar with is there except TV.

    Secondly, we are engulfed in a wave of nostalgia as we say one final goodbye to our parents and grandparents.

    And finally, as Andrew notes, Nazism has been discredited in a manner that Communism has not. The left is still convinced that it is still the wave of the future. And they are also convinced that theirs will be the first generation to do it successfully.

    I don’t mind them returning to that theme as there was great nobility and courage found in an era of brutality. The theme that bothers me is the 1950’s blacklist, especially since they’re so busy still running one of their own.

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    @HumzaAhmad

    “Hitler was a Frankenstein but there was also a Dr Frankenstein. German industrialists, the Americans and the British. He had a lot of support.

    Read into that one a bit and the real horror of the statement comes out. Frakenstein was an innocent freak who didn’t understand his own strength or the fear that he promulgated. This is how Oliver Stone chooses to characterize Hitler.

    On another note, it seems to me, both from personal experience and observation, that children are blasted with so much Holocaust imagery and rhetoric early on in life that it’s desensitizing. It wasn’t until I was in high school and read Night that the true horror of the Holocaust became real to me. Before then, it was something that we had been conditioned to automatically think of as bad, just like the word “racism”, without ever actually thinking about why that was or how it affected my life and the lives of those around me. I think what is needed is not simply to put the Holocaust on display, but sober, honest and serious discussions on the terrifying reality of that time.

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    @AaronMiller
    Diane Ellis, Ed.: But why aren’t films written about the atrocities committed by Stalin? Or about the suffering inflicted upon legions by Mao, or Pol Pot? Or about the devastation caused by the Japanese during the Nanking Massacre?

    …. so many Americans’ knowledge and understanding of history hinges upon what movies Hollywood produces, and it is therefore lamentable that Hollywood focuses exclusively on the Holocaust.

    Agreed. I don’t know what might cause this discrepancy. It’s easier to guess why Hollywood has avoided themes like America’s eugenics movement.

    I’ve often wondered how we might convince more teenagers and college students to view liberal ideas and institutions as “the establishment” at which to focus their natural rebellious impulses. I’m sure the answer is in the arts. Much of Stone’s popularity is due to his image as a rebel.

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