What About Michigan?

 

From time to time – usually in the comments on one of my posts on Ricochet — someone asks me the state of play of Michigan, and I nearly always answer that I am the wrong man to ask. Yes, I live in Michigan, but I live in a town of with a population of 8,203 in south-central Michigan no more than 18 miles from the Indiana-Ohio line. I have never lived in or around Detroit, Lansing, or Grand Rapids, where the action is.

I have a pretty good feel for Oklahoma, having lived there, in Oklahoma City or Tulsa, much of my life. I have next to none for Michigan, where, technically (but only technically), I have lived now for nearly five and a half years. That having been said, I can add that I am not completely ignorant. I have thrashed about in search of information, and my far-from-perfect observations might be of some use, especially if they stir those better informed from their lethargy and cause them to correct or amplify further my observations in comments or posts of their own.

To comprehend what is going on in Michigan, one must begin with a simple observation: Michigan in 2012 is not what Michigan was in 2000. The state is changing and changing fast, and this election may determine its future for many years to come.

Let me start with the obvious. For the last decade and longer, Michigan has been near the top in unemployment. Well before General Motors and Chrysler went bankrupt, they were failing, and one sign of their decline was that they began in-sourcing what they had formerly outsourced. What this meant for Michigan was the collapse of a host of small factories scattered throughout the state. Hillsdale, where I live, lost six of its seven such factories in the last 15 years.

This process of decline, which reached its denouement with the collapse of the auto industry, had as its consequence a sharp demographic drop. Between 2000 and 2008, Michigan lost roughly 10% of its population. By now, I suspect that 15% have left.

To this one can add the implosion of Detroit. In 2000, Detroit was still a major American city. Now it is a black hole. The median price of a house in the city that, in 1950, was the wealthiest community per capita in the United States is now about $10,000. The city that, in 1950, was the fourth largest in the country is now the second largest in Michigan, and every year it shrinks.

These developments cut in various ways. For starters, the United Auto Workers union is not what it was. It includes a vast host of retirees, to be sure. But many of them have moved where the sun shines in the winter. There are not very many working people left in the union. Barack Obama is not going to tell you, but Government Motors is busy moving production to China, and Chrysler is . . . well . . . Chrysler hardly exists. To this one can add that the black political machine in Detroit is very nearly dead. Coleman Young and his successors ate their seed corn, and now there is no harvest.

Moreover, as Detroit has emptied out, so have the chic suburbs around Detroit – which may matter, given that the country club set has embraced abortion with a vengeance and has been resolutely trending Democratic in recent years.

One indicator of the political fallout is the fact that, in 2010, the Republicans in Michigan won a landslide, taking both houses and the governor’s chair. Grand Rapids and western Michigan more generally – districts for the most part Republican and prosperous – are now weightier than Detroit and its satellite communities.

But there is another side to this story. As a colleague of mine, who is politically savvy and who has lived in Michigan now for twenty-seven years, observed to me the other day, “Over the course of the last twelve years, a lot of the folks in eastern Michigan with get-up-and-go got up and went.” There are a lot more people in Michigan today looking for handouts than there were in 2000. The check-out clerk at the local Kroger’s told my wife the other day that something on the order of 86% of those who shop there are buying their groceries with food stamps or the like.

What makes matters worse is the fact that the Republican governor elected in 2010 is a businessman all too typical of the businessmen who go into politics. If you have never heard his name, there is a reason. He brings to the political arena the amoral, apolitical mindset all too common among men of commerce, whose only concern is to buy cheap and sell dear; and his thinking is resolutely short-term. Michigan is now and has long been a mess, but he is not willing to address fundamentals; and, at a time, when the state is poised on the razor’s edge, he is unwilling to contemplate revisiting the arrangements made by those in the past who brought us to the disaster we now face.

Do not get me wrong. Rick Snyder is not a complete ignoramus. He was a successful businessman, and he has the wit to understand that the budget must be balanced. But he does not want to upset any of the powers that be. He sees governing solely as a matter of management.

Moreover, there is one particular in which he was willing to revisit past arrangements. His background in business made him acutely sensitive to the fact that the corporate tax rate in Michigan has been driving businesses away. So, quite rightly, he proposed slashing that particular tax. He also understands the threat posed to future budgets by healthcare costs, and he and the Republicans in the legislature capped public spending on public employees’ healthcare costs at 80%.

Snyder was not, however, willing to cut expenditures dramatically to bring them in line with the size of the current population. Instead, he proposed extending the state income tax to pensions, which it had never covered before. He did not have the wit to recognize that – whatever its effectiveness may be in the short run – in the long run, such a measure is not apt to increase revenues: which is to say, that it is an invitation to pensioners to move to Florida, Texas, or some other state with winters less severe, where their pensions will not be taxed by the state.

The UAW and its sister unions have owned Michigan for more than 50 years, and, in their eagerness for short-term gain, they bankrupted the auto industry, and they have gradually made of the state a hell-hole that businesses resolutely flee. Rick Snyder had the votes in the legislature to make Michigan a right-to-work state and cripple the unions. But, like most businessmen, he is timid in the face of potential conflict, and he instinctively shuns anything that would really ruffle feathers. He did not have the courage or perhaps the imagination to stage a confrontation with the unions in the manner of Scott Walker, and so he nixed right-to-work. In effect, he opted for half-measures; and, in the process, he squandered a mandate to change things in the state. Michigan is a bit like the Titanic. It is on a dangerous course, and when its captain had the opportunity to take it on a new and safer course, he opted, instead, to rearrange the chairs on its deck. Had he been up for re-election this year, I am told, Rick Snyder would have lost the primary.

Snyder’s fecklessness has left the Republicans divided and demoralized; and, sensing timidity and weakness on their part, the unions and their allies in the environmental movement and in the feminist left have gone on an offensive. The UAW may be on its way out. But, before it disappears, it will, if it can, pass the torch to the public sector unions and the left more generally. Here is how it proposes to do so.

When Michiganders go to the polls on the first Tuesday in November, they will have to decide on a number of ballot proposals – all aimed at amending the state constitution. The second of these will embed collective bargaining in the state constitution. Among other things, it will “invalidate existing or future state or local laws that limit the ability to join unions and bargain collectively, and to negotiate and enforce collective bargaining agreements, including employees’ financial support of their labor unions,” and it will “override state laws that regulate hours and conditions of employment to the extent that those laws conflict with collective bargaining agreements.” Pause and think about what these provisions mean vis-à-vis public-sector unions. They makes them a permanent political player armed with the money to get their nominees into local public office, where, without any legal restrictions whatsoever, they can turn around and negotiate with the unions to which they owe their election agreements enriching these same unions. If this passes, Michigan, which is already in trouble, will go the way of California, New York, and Illinois.

All over Hillsdale, in the yards of schoolteachers and others who work for the government, I see signs supporting this ballot proposal. I have seen no signs opposing it, and I have received no literature in the mail or through email urging that I vote against it. One side is organized; and, as far as I can tell, the other side is not. Shikha Dalmia has criticized this proposal in The Wall Street Journal, and Betsy Woodruff has discussed it on National Review Online. But, locally, silence reigns.

The third of the ballot proposals is aimed at amending the constitution to “require electric utilities to provide at least 25% of their annual retail sales of electricity from renewable energy sources, which are wind, solar, biomass, and hydropower, by 2025.” At the same time, it limits “to not more than 1% per year electric utility rate increases charged to consumers” for the purpose of achieving “compliance with the renewable energy standard,” and it requires “the legislature to enact additional laws to encourage the use of Michigan made equipment and employment of Michigan residents.” Take a moment to digest the implications of this. In effect, it embodies a program for bankrupting the utility companies and for withdrawing Michigan from the system of free trade that constitutes the American union.

The fourth ballot initiative proposes that the state constitution be amended to authorize the Michigan Quality Home Care Council “to set minimum compensation standards and terms and conditions of employment” for “in-home care workers,” and it will allow these workers “to bargain collectively” with that council. Its aim is to force all of those who look after the disabled and the elderly to join the Service Employees International Union.

At the same time, the Democrats are running three radical feminists – two white and one black woman – for the Supreme Court against the three conservative men up for re-election, and Debbie Stabenow (arguably the least intelligent current member of the United States Senate) is leading Pete Hoekstra, a former Republican Congressman from Grand Rapids, by 13% in the Real Clear Politics polling average. Rasmussen has her 12% ahead. I have seen her advertisements with some frequency on the internet. I have heard nothing about her opponent. If I were not following the race, I would not even know that Hoekstra is the Republican candidate.

The polls suggest that Mitt Romney has a shot at taking Michigan. He is behind 4.4% in the Real Clear Politics polling average. But that may be misleading. The two most recent polls – Rasmussen and the Detroit News – have him behind 7%.

I am wary of the polls this year, and I would love to know the party breakdown of these polls and of the polls taken back in 2010. But I would not be shocked if our side suffered a debacle in Michigan this year. If the ballot proposals being pushed by the left pass, if the left takes over the state supreme court, I shudder to think what will follow. This is the sort of damage that it is likely to be impossible to repair.

If my fears are realized, it will be due to the fecklessness of a single Republican – who had a chance to set things right but failed to recognize that bad management is not the chief source of Michigan’s problems and that he had to confront more fundamental problems and articulate an argument appealing to justice in defense of what he intended to do.

This fact ought to give one pause. If Mitt Romney wins in November — and I still expect him to win by a landslide — I sure hope that he does not revert to the technocratic, apolitical bipartisanship that marked his tenure as governor in Massachusetts. If he does, we may see Barack Obama back in 2016 . . . or someone worse.

ADDENDUM: Those of you in diverse parts would do us all a service if you wrote abut what is going on in your localities. What is happening in Colorado, Ohio, Wisconsin, New Mexico, and the like?

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  1. Xennady Inactive
    AmishDude: The upper Midwest, from Western PA to Wisconsin is filled with people who love their unions, are fiercely loyal to them, will not hear a word against them and can’t figure out why their kids can’t find jobs nearby and they have to visit their grandkids in Texas.

    It’s also full of people who loathe unions, want to see right-to-work laws, are heartily sick of seeing Republicans tremble in fear of them, and know full well why Texas and other states prosper instead of Michigan.

    As a former worker at a union steel mill I met people like that often, and I often heard how tired they were of the GOP pretending they- we, I should say- did not exist. This attitude was especially common among new-hires, of which I was one, and I even heard a rumor that the union reps had been told bluntly that workers in one section of the plant manned by mostly by newcomers would cross picket lines in the event of a strike.

    The 1930s it wasn’t. Someone should tell the GOP, and governor Snyder.

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    • October 18, 2012, at 1:05 AM PDT
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  2. HoosierDaddy Member

    Dr. Paul A. Rahe – – – “not completely ignorant”, indeed!

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    • October 18, 2012, at 2:34 AM PDT
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  3. Omid Moghadam Member

    Thank you for your post. Nothing like an illuminating report from the field. A lot of these points are never covered in mainstream or other type of media. Just on point in your last paragraph, I think you were referring to Mitt Romney’s tenure as the governor of Massachusetts, and not Michigan.

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    • October 18, 2012, at 3:21 AM PDT
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  4. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
    Paul A. Rahe Post author
    Omid Moghadam: Thank you for your post. Nothing like an illuminating report from the field. A lot of these points are never covered in mainstream or other type of media. Just on point in your last paragraph, I think you were referring to Mitt Romney’s tenure as the governor of Massachusetts, and not Michigan. · 1 minute ago

    Oops. I will fix that. Thank you.

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    • October 18, 2012, at 3:23 AM PDT
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  5. Scarlet Pimpernel Member

    Interesting post, Paul. Two reflections. I don’t like to go over the heads of the people, and the odds are against it, but can the union shop be reconciled with the 14th Amendment? When Lincoln defended the right to unionize, he was arguing against laws which prohibited collective bargaining in toto; he was not defending the union shop.

    And if we have a “living constitution,” then precedent may be damned!

    I take your point about blaming one man, but it’s a limited one. That one man can make or break a state means that there are many, many people at fault. Here’s how Adams’ Defence of the Constitution ends with a postscript:

    ” the deliberate union of so great and various a people in such a plan, is, without all partiality or prejudice, if not the greatest exertion of human understanding, the greatest single effort of national deliberation that the world has ever seen. . . . A people who could conceive, and can adopt it, we need not fear will be able to amend it, when, by experience, its inconveniences and imperfections shall be seen and felt.”

    Are we still so wise and virtuous? What is to be done?

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    • October 18, 2012, at 3:35 AM PDT
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  6. Charles Mark Member

    I’m curious about how Detroit’s performance in the remainder of the Post-Season could impact on the Election? Any ideas?

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    • October 18, 2012, at 3:38 AM PDT
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  7. iWe Reagan
    iWe

    It is sobering when a man who is known to be optimistic delivers such a summation.

    Some states clearly have farther to drop before they can be redeemed. Michigan, complete with its Dearbornistan elements, seems similar to the parts of Old Europe that similarly attract muslims in such numbers.

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    • October 18, 2012, at 3:43 AM PDT
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  8. M1919A4 Member

    Alabama will be solid for Romney / Ryan and the other Republicans. The only real question is whether the Democrats will hold their one remaining statewide office: the presidency of the Public Service Commission.

    They will, in some counties, retain a few local offices, but we’re working to capture those, except in the Black Belt counties, where the population distribution makes that impossible at this time.

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    • October 18, 2012, at 3:45 AM PDT
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  9. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
    Paul A. Rahe Post author
    iWc: It is sobering when a man who is known to be optimistic delivers such a summation.

    Some states clearly have farther to drop before they can be redeemed. Michigan, complete with its Dearbornistan elements, seems similar to the parts of Old Europe that similarly attract muslims in such numbers. · 0 minutes ago

    Yes, I am more generally optimistic, and I am more optimistic than most intelligent people think wise. Michigan really worries me, and I hope that on the latter matter I am very, very wrong.

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    • October 18, 2012, at 3:47 AM PDT
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  10. Nick Stuart Inactive

    However much damage Snyder may have done, he’s a complete amateur compared to Illinois’ George Ryan.

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    • October 18, 2012, at 3:47 AM PDT
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  11. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
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    Nick Stuart: However much damage Snyder may have done, he’s a complete amateur compared to Illinois’ George Ryan. · in 0 minutes

    True, but George Ryan was part of what John Kass aptly calls the Condominium. Snyder has no such excuse.

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    • October 18, 2012, at 3:48 AM PDT
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  12. Southern Pessimist Member

    Thanks for the analysis of the situation in Michigan. I wish there were a central source for that kind of information. Here in South Carolina we elecated a governor who is fully Republican but seems to be a Conservative In Name Only. She has tried hard to diminish the conservative influence in the state but at least with the strong right to work sentiments in the state she is unlikely to change the balance of power related to unions. I will follow those ballots initiatives you mentioned with great interest.

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    • October 18, 2012, at 3:54 AM PDT
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  13. Schrodinger's Cat Inactive

    I live in the suburbs of Detroit – Oakland County a generally Republican area. Hoekstra is invisible here. I don’t know what is with his campaign. Romney has support here as I see more Romney signs now than McCain in 08 and fewer BO signs. I think Romney has a chance if turnout is high. In that respect, Ballot proposal #6 might help. It would require a referendum on building a second bridge across the Detroit River to Windsor, Canada. Snyder wants the state to build a second bridge with money borrowed from Canada and Uncle Sam. I have seen some effective ads for #6 which might get more Republicans to the polls. In this sense, Snyder’s folly might help Romney.

    I lived in Grand Rapids, the second largest city, in western Michigan many years ago. Hoekstra is from that area. It is more conservative and Republican. A good turnout there would help Romney.

    Michigan could be in play if Romney drops some ads here. BO is running ads here, so they may be worried that Romney might win.

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    • October 18, 2012, at 4:04 AM PDT
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  14. The Mugwump Inactive

    Does the professor’s narrative about Michigan remind anyone else of Atlas Shrugged? I saw Part II yesterday and highly recommend it. What do you get when you cross a politician with a railroad? Well, a train wreck, of course.

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  15. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
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    Schrodinger’s Cat: I live in the suburbs of Detroit – Oakland County a generally Republican area. Hoekstra is invisible here. I don’t know what is with his campaign. Romney has support here as I see more Romney signs now than McCain in 08 and fewer BO signs. I think Romney has a chance if turnout is high. In that respect, Ballot proposal #6 might help. It would require a referendum on building a second bridge across the Detroit River to Windsor, Canada. Snyder wants the state to build a second bridge with money borrowed from Canada and Uncle Sam. I have seen some effective ads for #6 which might get more Republicans to the polls. In this sense, Snyder’s folly might help Romney.

    I lived in Grand Rapids, the second largest city, in western Michigan many years ago. Hoekstra is from that area. It is more conservative and Republican. A good turnout there would help Romney. . . .

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    Thank you. It is good to hear from someone who has a better feel for the state than I do.

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  16. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
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    Colin B Lane
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    Colin B Lane
    Paul A. Rahe: 

    Professor, there are those among us who own property in Michigan who are already on the case, at least with regard to Proposal 3. I think the polls are moving in our direction on these issues. · 

    What about Proposition Two? That one scares me even more. · 1 hour ago

    ABC affiliate WZZM 13 in Michigan says that only Proposal 1 (emergency manager law) isgaining support in advance of the election. All the rest are running out of steam.

    Proposal 2 (guaranteeing collective bargaining rights) has dropped from 50% support last month to 43% this month.

    Proposal 3 (renewable energy mandate) has dropped from 49% last month to 40% this month.

    Proposal 4 (collective bargaining for home health care workers) is at 51% but is down from 56% last month.

    It appears that as voters are learning more about these proposals, they are turning hard and fast against them. I’m not ready to give up on Michiganders yet. · 9 hours ago

    Thank you!

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    • October 18, 2012, at 4:13 AM PDT
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  17. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
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    Fredösphere: Keep in mind also the inherent small-c conservative tendency of voters with regards to state referenda in general: voters will vote no reflexively unless they are committed to the proposal’s passage. If they smell the slightest whiff of a rat, the proposal will die. · 8 hours ago

    Let’s hope.

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  18. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
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    Arahant
    Paul A. Rahe: The city that, in 1950, was the fourth largest in the country is now the second largest in Michigan, and every year it shrinks.

    Uh, could you point me to some updated figures on that? Did I miss a war where we captured Chicago? · 8 hours ago

    In the 2010 census, there were only 700,000 folks left in the city of Detroit. Grand Rapids has more. Without a war and without a plague, Detroit went under.

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  19. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
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    Ken Ramsey: . . .. Meanwhile our coal mines are under assault and the future looks grim. Our betters in northern Virginia would not have any of this any other way. One bright spot is our wineries, which our betters do permit and even patronize. But all we have are niche vineyards good for a weekend outing from our Washington betters; they will never be globally or even nationally competitive anytime soon. Our betters also enjoy coming out for rounds of golf. Our golf courses are thriving. We do have a governor who’s been highly touted for his conservativism, but sadly this conservativism has really not been in evidence since he took office. He is instead intrested in more education spending and ducking anything controversial. In our US Senate race, George Allen is an actual conservative, but he’s having a tough slog against Tim Kaine, thanks again to northern Virginia. If the entire state excluding northern Virginia (which extends now to Fredricksburg) and Charlottesville does not go hard against northern Virginia in the ballot box, we’ll continue to lose. · 8 hours ago

    Edited 8 hours ago

    You should turn this into a full-scale post.

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    • October 18, 2012, at 4:23 AM PDT
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  20. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
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    Arahant: 2010 Census: Detroit = 713,777GR = 188,040

    Admittedly, there have been changes since 2010, but not that large. I also checked counties and metropolitan areas, but none have backed up that claim. · 7 hours ago

    I may be in error. But give Detroit another few years. It is a wasteland.

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  21. Colin B Lane Member
    Paul A. Rahe: 

    When Michiganders go to the polls on the first Tuesday in November, they will have to decide on a number of ballot proposals – all aimed at amending the state constitution. 

    The third of the ballot proposals is aimed at amending the constitution to “require electric utilities to provide at least 25% of their annual retail sales of electricity from renewable energy sources, which are wind, solar, biomass, and hydropower, by 2025. . . .” Take a moment to digest the implications of this. In effect, it embodies a program for bankrupting the utility companies and for withdrawing Michigan from the system of free trade that constitutes the American union.

    Professor, there are those among us who own property in Michigan who are already on the case, at least with regard to Proposal 3. I think the polls are moving in our direction on these issues.

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    • October 18, 2012, at 4:29 AM PDT
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  22. smp16 Inactive

    Illinois is obviously not anywhere near being a battleground state, but I think those polls that came out a couple of weeks ago showing Obama’s support diminishing in the liberal suburbs north of Chicago are pretty accurate. I still see a fair number of Obama bumper stickers, but I have not seen even one Obama yard sign. Meanwhile, everyday I see more and more Romney yard signs. It’s heartening to know I’m not living among total idiots!

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    • October 18, 2012, at 4:31 AM PDT
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  23. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
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    Colin B Lane
    Paul A. Rahe: 

    When Michiganders go to the polls on the first Tuesday in November, they will have to decide on a number of ballot proposals – all aimed at amending the state constitution. 

    The third of the ballot proposals is aimed at amending the constitution to “require electric utilities to provide at least 25% of their annual retail sales of electricity from renewable energy sources, which are wind, solar, biomass, and hydropower, by 2025. . . .” Take a moment to digest the implications of this. In effect, it embodies a program for bankrupting the utility companies and for withdrawing Michigan from the system of free trade that constitutes the American union.

    Professor, there are those among us who own property in Michigan who are already on the case, at least with regard to Proposal 3. I think the polls are moving in our direction on these issues. · 2 minutes ago

    What about Proposition Two? That one scares me even more.

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  24. mezzrow Member

    I’m in what would be expected to be a Republican area of north Florida. The Romney yard signs have blossomed like desert flowers after a rainstorm throughout my neighborhood this week.

    I’m feeling more and more like your gut instinct was on the money, Professor. The momentum is palpable.

    That said, we have 12 amendments on the ballot – the longest in memory, written in the kind of language that makes one scream in horror rather than decipher it. I’m skeptical that this won’t be leveraged in some way to our detriment.

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  25. Chris Johnson Inactive

    Hmmm.

    Interesting, thoughtful, and bleak.

    A sketch, from Florida: it’s a mess.

    We elected a similar governor and he doesn’t seem to get the big issues, or help other conservative causes. Nearly all of his communication time is spent tamping down the liberal flames from behind, rather than pushing a meaningful agenda. He proclaims how much more we will spend on education as his near-weekly message, as if education spending is the issue.

    The state government appears, to me, in disarray. The legislature (GOP), is unmanaged and run by those that appear to be the corruptocrats. We have 8 amendments on the ballot in a few weeks and not a means of discerning what they may mean. Citizen ballot initiatives are limited in word count and focus, but our proposed amendments mostly come from the legislature and they have no such limitations. I have seen NONE of them and at least one of them approaches 700 words on the ballot.

    This means that citizens will have nothing, but left-center/far left newspapers to fall back upon, for descriptions of the amendments.

    Romney will win, but there will be no conservative coattails in Florida, I suspect.

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  26. Chris Johnson Inactive

    Addendum: mezzrow says we have 12, I have heard 8 there are 12 proposed amendments in Florida. Get the idea what a mess there is in Florida, if even relatively informed voters are unclear?

    With that in mind, from a national perspective, you may safely assume that conservatives will lose an easily winnable seat in the US Senate. Bill Nelson is an easy target for a competent campaign, but we don’t have any of those here, in Florida. We don’t even know what proposed constitutional amendments are on the ballot, as the folks behind them are being very coy.

    mezzrow, I have to run, but please watch for a message from me, late tomorrow afternoon. Let’s see what we can do to figure out these amendments. It shouldn’t be our job, but nobody else seems to be stepping up!

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  27. WI Con Member

    In Wisconsin, as much as I admire what Govenor Walker has done, and its truly working wonders for the state’s finances (just announced this week a projected 345million dollar surplus for the two year budget, 108million just deposited into the raining day fund. Public employee penions fully funded, not raided like some other places).

    That said, there were no changes to ‘Right to Work’ in the state. Though Gov. Walker was very bold in what he did, I don’t believe the Act 10 reforms would have been passed had they gone too far – an overreach for this purple state.

    As for the Romney Campaign, I’m feeling rather optimistic. I was a bit worried before the first debate (yard signage 60-40% Obama, these past few weeks have seen a near reversal-say 55 – 45% Romney). I live in a more affluent, yet urban suburbs that went heavy for Obama in 2008. I work as a poll worker and gauging from the various recall elections and comparing the signage & activity at the local Republican Victory Center – I’ve got a good feeling about Nov 6 in this state.

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  28. Xennady Inactive

    I live in Michigan now- alas- and I’ll add my thoughts.

    I share the low opinion of Snyder. He has done nothing I know to give Michigan a better future.

    There was a bill- backed by the NRA- to do away with state requirements for purchasers of handguns to get permits from local police departments. I was told he blocked it so “he wouldn’t have to deal with it.” Direct quote someone more involved in this than I am. I just noticed the NRA stopped sending me updates of that bill’s progress through the legislature. 

    Turns out there was none, courtesy of the “republican” governor. I note that Snyder won the GOP primary by splitting the vote, and beating Hoekstra and someone else. So- too typically- he won with a minority of GOP voters- and appears to have chosen to be a “nonpartisan” governor.

    And it shows, because if the state GOP exists in this campaign I haven’t heard of it. I did when John Engler was governor- but not now.

    I’ve seen no Obama signs and two Romney signs- but zero for Hoekstra.

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  29. Paul A. Rahe Contributor
    Paul A. Rahe Post author
    Kowaliczko Tom: In Wisconsin, as much as I admire what Govenor Walker has done, and its truly working wonders for the state’s finances (just announced this week a projected 345million dollar surplus for the two year budget, 108million just deposited into the raining day fund. Public employee penions fully funded, not raided like some other places).

    That said, there were no changes to ‘Right to Work’ in the state. Though Gov. Walker was very bold in what he did, I don’t believe the Act 10 reforms would have been passed had they gone too far – an overreach for this purple state.

    As for the Romney Campaign, I’m feeling rather optimistic. I was a bit worried before the first debate (yard signage 60-40% Obama, these past few weeks have seen a near reversal-say 55 – 45% Romney). I live in a more affluent, yet urban suburbs that went heavy for Obama in 2008. I work as a poll worker and gauging from the various recall elections and comparing the signage & activity at the local Republican Victory Center – I’ve got a good feeling about Nov 6 in this state. · 3 minutes ago

    Nice to know…

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    • October 18, 2012, at 5:41 AM PDT
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    Here is an excerpt from an email I received:

    I suspect, I’m not the first (ex, in my case) Michigander to write to you. Just wanted to let you know that I was born (1952) and raised in Detroit, until moving to New York City, where I now live, in 1974, and your diagnosis is spot on. Indeed, I the decay you note, at least in Detroit, started long before 2000; I would peg the starting point at 1967 and the Detroit Riots. The decline then sped – and spread – considerably with, as you correctly note, the election of Coleman Young. I still have fond memories from my early childhood, riding the streetcar with my mother through a bustling downtown literally thronging with shoppers, riding the elevator at Hudson’s Department Store, as big (nine floors, as I recall) as Macy’s. [see next comment for more]

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    • October 18, 2012, at 5:42 AM PDT
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