Ricochet is the best place on the internet to discuss the issues of the day, either through commenting on posts or writing your own for our active and dynamic community in a fully moderated environment. In addition, the Ricochet Audio Network offers over 40 original podcasts with new episodes released every day.
Small Incidents can mean a lot
“It starts when you begin to overlook good manners. Anytime you quit hearing Sir and Mam the end is pretty much in sight.”
-Cormac McCarthy, No Country For Old Men
Andrew Klavan explained why Pakistani men rape white girls in Britain. He did so unintentionally. He spent some time in a British park with his son, Spencer Klavan.* His son was playing in the sandbox with his toys. In the park, there were upper-class English people and Pakistani people.* *
Little Spencer Klavan had some toys, plastic trucks and bulldozers and such. The only children who stole his toys were the Pakistani kids. Then Papa Klavan had to go to the Pakistani mums to try to get the toys back. The Pakistani mums were not cooperative, so Papa Klavan had to politely get the toys back from the kids.
There was a joke that Chris Rock did in his special: Bigger and Blacker. “If a kid calls his grandma ‘mama’ and his mama ‘Pam,’ he going to jail.” Rock followed this up by saying, “Go take care of those kids before they rob me in 10 years.” <link is NSFW>
He got some heat for those kinds of jokes. If I recall, his critics accused him of being cruel, but not for being untruthful.
Now, I don’t think stealing toys as a child inevitably leads to rape as an adult. Rather, whatever was defective in the culture caused both.
I cannot exactly say what this incident means, but it means a lot.
*In service to an esoteric in-joke, I must mention that Andrew Klavan and Spencer Klavan have no relation.
**He said British people and Muslim people, but he meant English and Pakistani.
Published in General
This is it right here. Culture of violence.
Evidently muslims believe all toys belong to them as well.
Churchill and TRoosevelt made much the same comments in books they wrote early 20th C: the Moslem is ungovernable. It’s baked into their ideology because it’s fundamentally destructive.
Or, are Pakistani mothers even allowed to discipline male children, especially at the request of an infidel?
Ditto Jefferson.
OMG OMG the boys probably discipline their mothers! I’ve heard they have tails…
It took Jefferson some experience to change his mind. At first Jefferson went to the emissary of the pirate states in London in 1785 and he asked him in essence, “Why are you fighting with us? We have not quarrel with you.”
They responded, “It was written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon whoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
As Christopher Hitchens has noted, there problem with us is that we weren’t Muslim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxW-iWLokcs
Chubby electron manipulator has a great youtube post about the history as does city journal.
“From the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli…“
You’re talking about the guys who gave barbarians a bad name.
If ever there was proof of the truth of the old saw that no one learns lessons from history, it is the fact the West blithely continues to ignore 1,400 years of Muslim jihadi aggression and expansion by conquest.
It took Spain some hundreds of years to expel its Muslim conquerors, but Islam still avers that, as it had once been conquered and subjected to rule by Islam, it is Allah’s will that it remain theirs to be retaken.
West had better wake up before it’s too late.
“70 years to conquer Spain and 700 years to take it back”
(or more precisely, 711 to 1492, when European Christians launched their own epoch of global conquests)
When did taking back what was stolen, become “conquest?”
That is why it is futile to negotiate treaties and/or agreements with their governments; they will abide by them only as long as they perceive them to be in their interests.
I think JRo is referring to the period after 1492.
[ Donald Trump has entered the chat ]
;-)
In the public sphere, I see no evidence that Republicans are more reluctant to use four letter words than Democrats. This is not good for our culture. Coarsening of our speech leads to disrespect for others and diminishes our humanity. The goal of life ought to be self-refinement, yet it seems we are headed in the opposite direction.
And women are also toys, not human beings . . .
This is a typical leftist talking point. Conservatives say, “There is a bad problem with crime among young black men in the inner city.” Then they present the overwhelming statistical reality of the problem. Then the left says, “That’s racist.”
Notice that the English seems to get along with Sikhs just fine and they are ethnically the same as the Muslims. The problem is with behavior rooted in particular religious culture. You avoided the concern completely.
As for the tails. If Muslims in Britain acted like Sikhs I don’t think anyone would care if they had tails or not.
Amazing response. But it lacks any links to overwhelming statistical evidence that Pakistani mothers are not allowed to discipline their sons. I’m sure you’ll remedy that with more than anecdotes.
The overwhelming evidence of rape makes me believe in the anecdote. You and I both know that even the best social scientists can’t get that kind of data. Could you explain why Muslims from Pakistan are so much more likely to commit rape and gang rape than other groups?
What’s more, the problem isn’t with Pakistani Mums not disciplining their kids when they play with Pakistani kids or with their family members. The problem is that they don’t seem disciplined when they play with none Muslim kids.
Henry, I asked Grok about the grooming gangs. Got a long, but interesting, response.
Wrt anecdotes about Pakistani children and how they play with others – I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that you don’t know any Pakistanis with young children, or indeed know anybody who knows any Pakistanis with young children. So what is the source for your anecdotes? Have they been curated, and if so, to what end?
Entirely not the point.