Fareed Zakaria Talks of the Crisis of Progressive Government

 

Wait.  What?  Fareed Zakaria, on yetserday’s episode of Global Public Square on CNN, explained why only a handful of the 27 countries in the European Union are governed by Center-Left coalitions.

“Countries with more than half the world’s population went to the polls last year and the basic message they sent to their governments was one of dissatisfaction and anger with the status quo.  Their frustration, however, was seen to be particularly focused on the party traditionally identified with big government, the progressive left.  Almost everywhere you look, the left is in ruins.”

“The primary left of center party in the European Parliament now has just 136 seats in a 720-seat parliament.”

“The crisis of democratic government, then, is actually a crisis of progressive government.”

Zakaria then went on to compare New York State with Florida.

“They have similar sized populations, New York with about 20 million people and Florida with about 23 million people.  But New York State’s budget is more than double that of Florida’s, 239 billion verses roughly 116 billion.  In addition, New York City, which is a little more than 3 times the size of Miami-Dade County, has a budget of more than 100 billion dollars, which is nearly 10 times that of Miami-Dade.”

Then Zakaria pulls out the money question for his viewers.

“What do these New Yorkers get for these vast sums of money?”

My sense is that Fareed Zakaria hasn’t joined the Republican Party or become a conservative.  Instead, I think Zakaria is trying to tell his fellow Democrats that they have no chance at winning elections if they continue to cater to the far left, the woke industry and the public employees’ unions.

Republicans might prefer that Democrats ignore Zakaria’s warnings because even in states like New Jersey and Illinois, voters demonstrated in the 2024 presidential election that they are losing patience with the Progressive Blue State model of governing, though “governing” doesn’t seem like the appropriate term for what Democrats are doing.

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  1. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    Given the penchant for blue state and city voters to return progressives to office, think how bad it must be for it to change.  I mean, even San Francisco voters have run off some progressive officials for what most of us would consider only mildly less extreme candidates.  And yet – when even progressive voters see a need for change, that’s a huge indicator that the pendulum has reached the end of its swing.

    The rampant crime on the NYC subway has been a big indicator of progressive failure. Trump winning followed by the Daniel Penny acquittal smells like something momentous is happening.  

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  2. GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Malpropisms Reagan
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    One note on the Florida economy, 80% of the state’s revenue comes from sales taxes, and a very large chunk of those are from the tourist industry which is one of the top 5 sources of revenue for the state.

    So a lot of money comes to Florida and they demand very little from the state’s pocket for the typical services we have come to expect from a state government.  Very few folks brag, or look forward to a vacationing in New York.

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  3. EJHill Staff
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    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid: Very few folks brag, or look forward to a vacationing in New York.

    I think that would be a surprise to the 62M that visited the City of New York in 2023. When Covid hit the city took a 59% budget hit primarily from the loss of tourism. Most of that is attributable to Giuliani (and to a lesser extent Disney), which is a shame that the great unifying figure of Bill de Blasio nuked the city back to the Dinkins Era.

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    Tex929rr (View Comment):
    The rampant crime on the NYC subway has been a big indicator of progressive failure. Trump winning followed by the Daniel Penny acquittal smells like something momentous is happening.  

    This is the kind of thing that happens when people think that after a Giuliani – on the state level, or a Trump nationally – has gotten things running smoothly, they can just swap in a Dinkins or de Blasio or Hochul to feel better about themselves and get free stuff etc, without any other consequences.

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  5. GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Malpropisms Reagan
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid: Very few folks brag, or look forward to a vacationing in New York.

    I think that would be a surprise to the 62M that visited the City of New York in 2023. When Covid hit the city took a 59% budget hit primarily from the loss of tourism. Most of that is attributable to Giuliani (and to a lesser extent Disney), which is a shame that the great unifying figure of Bill de Blasio nuked the city back to the Dinkins Era.

    I was born in New York, spend the first 10 years there, regularly go back for relatives (and hear their grousing). I have now had the opportunity to have some very long TDY’s in Florida in the recent years.

    Sorry no contest.

    Yes I have been to NYC for Broadway, Radio City, Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island, etc, etc. So perhaps to visit maybe NYC ok, but it has become way too dysfunctional since Bloomberg was pushed aside. I have recollections of the squeegee guys damaging the mirror on my Vega for non payment (extortion) at the exit Lincoln tunnel from the late 70’s. I would also venture that the Florida of my youthful recollection (the late 60’s early 70’s) have vastly improved. So yes I think 62M folks can be wrong about their vacation/living choices. I also do not disparage those who live well outside of the NYC region, however they are cursed with the governing baggage that the city inflicts on them.

    Just review that last census as to where folks have migrated and then make your case to me.

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  6. James Lileks Contributor
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    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Ma… (View Comment):
    So yes I think 62M folks can be wrong about their vacation/living choices.

    Being past the amusement-park phase of life, I would much rather spend a week in NYC than Florida. But I would never want to live in New York, and can easily see a good life on a coast in Florida. Now, if I won the lottery, I’d buy a pied a terre, but it would have to be one of those very large jackpots.

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  7. GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Malpropisms Reagan
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Ma… (View Comment):
    So yes I think 62M folks can be wrong about their vacation/living choices.

    Being past the amusement-park phase of life, I would much rather spend a week in NYC than Florida. But I would never want to live in New York, and can easily see a good life on a coast in Florida. Now, if I won the lottery, I’d buy a pied a terre, but it would have to be one of those very large jackpots.

    James, this is exactly what I have been doing the last three winters. Bonus points since I can view the regular SpaceX launches by walking out the door of my RV to the Indian river and watch as the boosters arcs over the coast toward the equator and marvel in our collective technical grandeur.

    It’s quiet, much warmer than Minnesota, with plenty to do that has nothing related to the Orlando blob. When it starts getting hot and muggy I just roll back north, and spend the month or two at peak summer heat in Oshkosh Wisconsin.

    Just following the sun as they say. Since you are no longer tied to that desk in Minneapolis, and since the internet is “virtually” everywhere perhaps it’s time you consider snow birding.

    As plus for you, it’s only a 2.5 hour drive to the cruise port in Ft Lauderdale.

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  8. MiMac Thatcher
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    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Ma… (View Comment):

    So a lot of money comes to Florida and they demand very little from the state’s pocket for the typical services we have come to expect from a state government. Very few folks brag, or look forward to a vacationing in New York.

    definitely not true– Broadway??? NYC alone gets 65 million tourists (Florida gets 140M). NY state claims 306M tourists.-ie more than Florida. Many more would come to NYC if they didn’t have to face the grime & crime that has returned. Get back to broken windows policing & NYC would draw more tourists. NYC got more tourists preCOVID than now.

    BTW- NY state sales tax 4%- Fla 6%

    NY state tourism revenue-$73.6B “economic impact”-$117.6B

    Fla state tourism revenue-$96.5B (taxes $27.6B)

    the difference between the 2 states finances isn’t tourism- it is bad policy….even if NY netted the extra $35B in gross revenue (not taxes) that Florida gets from tourism, it would just waste it on more bad programs. More aggressive fleecing of the tourists wouldn’t solve anything in NY.

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  9. FrankTorson Member
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    If you would like to listen to Fareed Zakaria’s entire 5 minute presentation on the crisis of progressive government, here it is:

    Progressive Government in Crisis

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/05/politics/video/gps0105-progressive-government-in-crisis

    Another interesting excerpt was this one:

    “It’s easy to comfort oneself by thinking that these sky-high tax rates and growing government revenues are providing some crucial ingredients of progressive government.  But they are often simply the toll of waste and mismanagement.  The first phase of the second avenue’s subway construction, at 2.5 billion dollars per mile, was eight to twelve times more expensive compared to a sampling of similar projects in places like Italy, Sweden, Paris and Berlin, not exactly low-cost locales.”  

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  10. kedavis Coolidge
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    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Ma… (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Ma… (View Comment):
    So yes I think 62M folks can be wrong about their vacation/living choices.

    Being past the amusement-park phase of life, I would much rather spend a week in NYC than Florida. But I would never want to live in New York, and can easily see a good life on a coast in Florida. Now, if I won the lottery, I’d buy a pied a terre, but it would have to be one of those very large jackpots.

    James, this is exactly what I have been doing the last three winters. Bonus points since I can view the regular SpaceX launches by walking out the door of my RV to the Indian river and watch as the boosters arcs over the coast toward the equator and marvel in our collective technical grandeur.

    It’s quiet, much warmer than Minnesota, with plenty to do that has nothing related to the Orlando blob. When it starts getting hot and muggy I just roll back north, and spend the month or two at peak summer heat in Oshkosh Wisconsin.

    Just following the sun as they say. Since you are no longer tied to that desk in Minneapolis, and since the internet is “virtually” everywhere perhaps it’s time you consider snow birding.

    As plus for you, it’s only a 2.5 hour drive to the cruise port in Ft Lauderdale.

    But it’s not only James’ occupation that is considered.

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  11. FrankTorson Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Ma… (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Ma… (View Comment):
    So yes I think 62M folks can be wrong about their vacation/living choices.

    Being past the amusement-park phase of life, I would much rather spend a week in NYC than Florida. But I would never want to live in New York, and can easily see a good life on a coast in Florida. Now, if I won the lottery, I’d buy a pied a terre, but it would have to be one of those very large jackpots.

    James, this is exactly what I have been doing the last three winters. Bonus points since I can view the regular SpaceX launches by walking out the door of my RV to the Indian river and watch as the boosters arcs over the coast toward the equator and marvel in our collective technical grandeur.

    It’s quiet, much warmer than Minnesota, with plenty to do that has nothing related to the Orlando blob. When it starts getting hot and muggy I just roll back north, and spend the month or two at peak summer heat in Oshkosh Wisconsin.

    Just following the sun as they say. Since you are no longer tied to that desk in Minneapolis, and since the internet is “virtually” everywhere perhaps it’s time you consider snow birding.

    As plus for you, it’s only a 2.5 hour drive to the cruise port in Ft Lauderdale.

    But it’s not only James’ occupation that is considered.

    I don’t think vacation choice can be considered right or wrong in the same way that saying that lead is lighter than oats is wrong.  Some people really like the finger lakes of upstate New York and some like watching professional tennis at the US Open in Flushing Meadows, New York.  As a factual matter, people are voting with their feet to live in Florida and to leave New York States.  

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  12. kedavis Coolidge
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    FrankTorson (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Ma… (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    GLDIII Purveyor of Splendid Ma… (View Comment):
    So yes I think 62M folks can be wrong about their vacation/living choices.

    Being past the amusement-park phase of life, I would much rather spend a week in NYC than Florida. But I would never want to live in New York, and can easily see a good life on a coast in Florida. Now, if I won the lottery, I’d buy a pied a terre, but it would have to be one of those very large jackpots.

    James, this is exactly what I have been doing the last three winters. Bonus points since I can view the regular SpaceX launches by walking out the door of my RV to the Indian river and watch as the boosters arcs over the coast toward the equator and marvel in our collective technical grandeur.

    It’s quiet, much warmer than Minnesota, with plenty to do that has nothing related to the Orlando blob. When it starts getting hot and muggy I just roll back north, and spend the month or two at peak summer heat in Oshkosh Wisconsin.

    Just following the sun as they say. Since you are no longer tied to that desk in Minneapolis, and since the internet is “virtually” everywhere perhaps it’s time you consider snow birding.

    As plus for you, it’s only a 2.5 hour drive to the cruise port in Ft Lauderdale.

    But it’s not only James’ occupation that is considered.

    I don’t think vacation choice can be considered right or wrong in the same way that saying that lead is lighter than oats is wrong. Some people really like the finger lakes of upstate New York and some like watching professional tennis at the US Open in Flushing Meadows, New York. As a factual matter, people are voting with their feet to live in Florida and to leave New York States.

    I lived in Arizona for about 32 years, and none of the “snow-birds” were just vacationing there.  That was a lifestyle for the retired.

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  13. Eb Snider Member
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    Did Fareed accomplish this without plagiarism?  Just wondering. He seemed to lean on that for his muse. I hadn’t realized they still let him on the TV.

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  14. FrankTorson Member
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    Eb Snider (View Comment):

    Did Fareed accomplish this without plagiarism? Just wondering. He seemed to lean on that for his muse. I hadn’t realized they still let him on the TV.

    His statement was so coherent that it probably was plagiarized.  However, I do think the fact that Zakaria made this statement on CNN shows where the debate is headed.  Among some people, there is a realization that the Left has descended into silliness and madness and Trump’s victory can’t be blamed on voter ignorance and/or malevolence.  

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  15. kedavis Coolidge
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    FrankTorson (View Comment):

    Eb Snider (View Comment):

    Did Fareed accomplish this without plagiarism? Just wondering. He seemed to lean on that for his muse. I hadn’t realized they still let him on the TV.

    His statement was so coherent that it probably was plagiarized. However, I do think the fact that Zakaria made this statement on CNN shows where the debate is headed. Among some people, there is a realization that the Left has descended into silliness and madness and Trump’s victory can’t be blamed on voter ignorance and/or malevolence.

    Even Bill Maher sees that, although Maher also said that he’d vote for Biden’s head in a jar of blue liquid, a la “Futurama,” rather than Trump.  So he’s still a silly gasbag where it counts.

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  16. FrankTorson Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    FrankTorson (View Comment):

    Eb Snider (View Comment):

    Did Fareed accomplish this without plagiarism? Just wondering. He seemed to lean on that for his muse. I hadn’t realized they still let him on the TV.

    His statement was so coherent that it probably was plagiarized. However, I do think the fact that Zakaria made this statement on CNN shows where the debate is headed. Among some people, there is a realization that the Left has descended into silliness and madness and Trump’s victory can’t be blamed on voter ignorance and/or malevolence.

    Even Bill Maher sees that, although Maher also said that he’d vote for Biden’s head in a jar of blue liquid, a la “Futurama,” rather than Trump. So he’s still a silly gasbag where it counts.

    Right.  Neither Fareed Zakaria nor Bill Maher are willing to vote Republican, it seems.  However, they are trying to persuade their leftish viewers to realize how the wider public views progressive governance and quit saying, “They vote Republican because they are racist and stupid.”  Instead, Zakaria and Maher are asking their viewers to consider other, more plausible reasons for the fact that lefty political parties have been losing, and not just in the United States.  

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