Pardons Do Not Imply Guilt

 

The deluge is on the horizon. A blanket pardon of anyone named, or related to someone named, Biden seems imminent. And the marsupial J6 Committee. And the Faucis of the Great Fake Pandemic. Maybe Ray Epps? Will it include the unacknowledged granddaughter of the POTUS? And, of course, all of this would be completely unnecessary except for Orange Man Bad. This phenomenal moment is in no way the fault of the child sniffer-in-chief or his involvement in a grift with a maze of holding companies laundering alleged eight-figure “considerations” from foreign powers. No, this is entirely laid at the feet of the evil of the epoch, and his cruel victory dance. And we will be reminded, endlessly, forever, that pardons do not imply guilt.

What luck that we have a Biden to protect the American rule of law.

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    And he gave us his word as one!

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  2. Sisyphus Member
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    KJP, right on cue:

    https://twitter.com/WesternLensman/status/1865118316941185208

    (Thank you, Elon.)

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  3. Joker Member
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    What luck that we have a Biden to protect Americans from the rule of law.

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  4. Old Bathos Member
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    Pardons kinda do imply that.  See, Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79 (1915):

    There are substantial differences between legislative immunity and a pardon; the latter carries an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it, while the former is non-committal and tantamount to silence of the witness.

    Wilson pardoned a fellow who was deliberately stonewalling a grand jury and who refused to accept the pardon so the court had to figure out if it still applied.  Maybe the pardoned fellow has inside info about Wilson’s newly infamous brother-in-law Hunter DeButts but we will never know.

    What shall we call those get the coming pre-emptive pardons?  Unindicted Biden Co-Conspirators? Persons of Suspicion?

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  5. Judge Mental Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Pardons kinda do imply that. See, Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79 (1915):

    There are substantial differences between legislative immunity and a pardon; the latter carries an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it, while the former is non-committal and tantamount to silence of the witness.

    Wilson pardoned a fellow who was deliberately stonewalling a grand jury and who refused to accept the pardon so the court had to figure out if it still applied. Maybe the pardoned fellow has inside info about Wilson’s newly infamous brother-in-law Hunter DeButts but we will never know.

    What shall we call those get the coming pre-emptive pardons? Unindicted Biden Co-Conspirators? Persons of Suspicion?

    POCC – Persons of Colorful Crimes.

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  6. Sisyphus Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Pardons kinda do imply that. See, Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79 (1915):

    There are substantial differences between legislative immunity and a pardon; the latter carries an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it, while the former is non-committal and tantamount to silence of the witness.

    Wilson pardoned a fellow who was deliberately stonewalling a grand jury and who refused to accept the pardon so the court had to figure out if it still applied. Maybe the pardoned fellow has inside info about Wilson’s newly infamous brother-in-law Hunter DeButts but we will never know.

    What shall we call those get the coming pre-emptive pardons? Unindicted Biden Co-Conspirators? Persons of Suspicion?

    And a blanket pardon carries an imputation of blanket guilt?

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  7. Jimmy Carter Member
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Pardons kinda do imply that. See, Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79 (1915):

    There are substantial differences between legislative immunity and a pardon; the latter carries an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it, while the former is non-committal and tantamount to silence of the witness.

    Wilson pardoned a fellow who was deliberately stonewalling a grand jury and who refused to accept the pardon so the court had to figure out if it still applied. Maybe the pardoned fellow has inside info about Wilson’s newly infamous brother-in-law Hunter DeButts but we will never know.

    What shall we call those get the coming pre-emptive pardons? Unindicted Biden Co-Conspirators? Persons of Suspicion?

    POCC – Persons of Colorful Crimes.

    Criminals. 

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  8. Sisyphus Member
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    This seems apropos:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/13-more-people-biden-is-considering-pardoning

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  9. Sisyphus Member
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    This seems apropos:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/13-more-people-biden-is-considering-pardoning

    Corn Pop! How could I have left out Corn Pop!

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  10. Percival Thatcher
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    This seems apropos:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/13-more-people-biden-is-considering-pardoning

    Corn Pop! How could I have left out Corn Pop!

    Whoever left the cocaine in the West Wing, although that might have been covered by previous pardons.

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  11. Miffed White Male Member
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    Remember how bent out of shape the left was a few months ago when the Supreme Court ruled that the President has immunity?  That it was the end of democracy and meant we had a King instead of a President?

    Good times, good times…

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  12. Percival Thatcher
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  13. Percival Thatcher
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    No blanket pardons. Make FJB bang out every charge covered. We’ve got to know what laws these birds are above.

    There, that’ll keep him off the streets until January 20.

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  14. Judge Mental Member
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    Pardons shouldn’t imply ending investigations either.  Even if charges can’t be brought, well … to coin a phrase, the people have a right to know.

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  15. philo Member
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    Sisyphus: …And we will be reminded, endlessly, forever, that pardons do not imply guilt.

    This will play well with some of our locals who are cocksure that an NDA does exactly that. 

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  16. Sisyphus Member
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    philo (View Comment):

    Sisyphus: …And we will be reminded, endlessly, forever, that pardons do not imply guilt.

    This will play well with some of our locals who are cocksure that an NDA does exactly that.

    The necessary cognitive dissonance required to achieve genuine understanding eludes such people.

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  17. Sisyphus Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    No blanket pardons. Make FJB bang out every charge covered. We’ve got to know what laws these birds are above.

    There, that’ll keep him off the streets until January 20.

    Like he has ever done his own homework.

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  18. Sisyphus Member
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    In related news, it is reported that some Biden Presidential Library donation pledges have been withdrawn in the wake of the Hunter blanket pardon. I guess the lack of scruples on that side is not yet universal.

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    In related news, it is reported that some Biden Presidential Library donation pledges have been withdrawn in the wake of the Hunter blanket pardon. I guess the lack of scruples on that side is not yet universal.

    No doubt there are some funds still available.  Where they come from might be revealing.

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