Required Thought About Bathrooms?

 

Recommended: Thoughtful post by @fullsizetabby on recent events in the House and their significance.

The real struggle that the left likes to conceal under the rubrics of rights, fairness, hate and identity is not whether men are permitted to wear dresses and emulate feminine modes of behavior and expression, but what we are allowed to think and say about such a choice or psychological journey.

American culture and law are about trying to provide each other with the widest possible personal sphere within which to pursue happiness as we perceive it.  If you choose to join a goofy cult, that is your right as an American.  My right as an American is to think that’s nuts and say so.  I am not required to applaud whatever you choose to do within that sphere of personal freedom.

Incoming Rep. McBride is a biological male who prefers to live, dress and act as a woman.  With the possible exception of some specific times and places, he has a right to do that.  He does not have the right to dictate how the rest of us think about it.  Specifically, we are not required to state or otherwise accommodate or defer to a belief that he actually is a woman.  Deferring to that nonsense is why males increasingly dominate women’s sports.

The silly declaration of required pronouns is also a form of tyranny.  “He, She, They” are third-person pronouns usually used when the referred person is not around.  You have a right to reasonably request that you be addressed by a full name, not by nicknames, and not “hey, you” or “sweetcheeks,” etc., but you don’t control how others discuss you in your absence.  Perhaps the safest personal policy in such politicized environments is to use the name and avoid pronouns altogether.  “Rep. McBride said…,” Rep. McBride’s earlier statement…,” instead of guessing whether he/his or she/her is to be used.

The issue brilliantly and concisely skewered by Ricky Gervais [language warning]:

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  1. Jimmy Carter Member
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    Come on. You know better than that.

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  2. Jim McConnell Member
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    “It” should solve the problem of persons who object to being referred to by their actual biological sex (not “gender,” which I was taught is a grammatical, not biological, term).

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  3. Old Bathos Member
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    “It” should solve the problem of persons who object to being referred to by their actual biological sex (not “gender,” which I was taught is a grammatical, not biological, term).

    “It” is deemed problematic, an incorrect pronoun. Perhaps “the entity”/”the entity’s” should be used as a generic substitute.

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  4. Max Knots Member
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    “It” should solve the problem of persons who object to being referred to by their actual biological sex (not “gender,” which I was taught is a grammatical, not biological, term).

    The use of that term for these folks could be judged an insult to “things”, since that pronoun has always been theirs! :-)

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  5. Full Size Tabby Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    “It” should solve the problem of persons who object to being referred to by their actual biological sex (not “gender,” which I was taught is a grammatical, not biological, term).

    “It” is deemed problematic, an incorrect pronoun. Perhaps “the entity”/”the entity’s” should be used as a generic substitute.

    No. “It” and “the entity” dehumanize the person. While it is tempting to say they deserve dehumanization as something that can’t figure out if it is male or female probably has trouble thinking of itself as fully human, I still know that person is human. Mentally ill and delusional. Sick. But still human.

    As the post says, just don’t demand that I reinforce the sickness.

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  6. Kozak Member
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    The vast vast majority of these “women”, are men who in adulthood developed  the paraphilia of Autogynephilia.

    They get sexually excited by the idea of themselves as women.  It’s a fetish, its perverse and I for one refuse to play along.  Not now.  Not ever.  You do not treat mental illness by reinforcing the delusions of the patient.

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  7. Percival Thatcher
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    Assigning oneself pronouns makes the unwarranted assumption that people will talk about you when you are not present.

    Other that the near-universal “what the hell was that” you’ve been getting all your life.

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  8. Old Bathos Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    The vast vast majority of these “women”, are men who in adulthood developed the paraphilia of Autogynephilia.

    They get sexually excited by the idea of themselves as women. It’s a fetish, its perverse and I for one refuse to play along. Not now. Not ever. You do not treat mental illness by reinforcing the delusions of the patient.

    I would have thought that by now “Autogynephilia” and any other term that alludes to the reality that this is a mental disorder would have been excised from all texts and diagnostic manuals. We have always been at war with EastAsia.

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  9. Dad Dog Member
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    Break the Spiral of Silence.  The more that we say, “Men cannot be women; women cannot be men,” the more that others will gain the courage to stand up and do likewise.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_of_silence?wprov=sfti1#

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  10. Henry Racette Member
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    Agree 100%.

    I think the “trans” movement is harmful, stupid, doomed to fail, and worthy of merciless criticism. I try to use anatomically correct pronouns as a matter of principle, because this ridiculous ideology doesn’t deserve to be respected. (My tee-shirt says “Tell me your pronouns. I’ll tell you if you got them right.”)

    On the topic of this awful destructive movement, it occurred to me today that there should be a web site devoted to cataloguing the doctors and assorted “experts” who medically transition young people — and by young people I mean anyone under, say, 30. Because this movement is going to fail and, when it does, the mercenary ghouls who made it possible are going to try to move on to the next bit of hurtful quackery. They should be named on a public wall of shame somewhere. They shouldn’t be forgotten.

     

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    Dad Dog (View Comment):

    Break the Spiral of Silence. The more that we say, “Men cannot be women; women cannot be men,” the more that others will gain the courage to stand up and do likewise.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_of_silence?wprov=sfti1#

     

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  12. Kozak Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    The vast vast majority of these “women”, are men who in adulthood developed the paraphilia of Autogynephilia.

    They get sexually excited by the idea of themselves as women. It’s a fetish, its perverse and I for one refuse to play along. Not now. Not ever. You do not treat mental illness by reinforcing the delusions of the patient.

    I would have thought that by now “Autogynephilia” and any other term that alludes to the reality that this is a mental disorder would have been excised from all texts and diagnostic manuals. We have always been at war with EastAsia.

    Watch for a redefinition.  Like Racism.

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  13. E. Kent Golding Moderator
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    “It” should solve the problem of persons who object to being referred to by their actual biological sex (not “gender,” which I was taught is a grammatical, not biological, term).

    “It” is deemed problematic, an incorrect pronoun. Perhaps “the entity”/”the entity’s” should be used as a generic substitute.

    Borg/the Borg’s?

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  14. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
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    I find the entire issue beyond the absurd. My mother would have said about it that the left “goes from the sublime to the ridiculous.”

    By controlling what you say they are controlling what you think. A long time ago I got into a self-help program called The Psychology of Winning. Essentially, what was taught is that what you say to yourself is what your subconscious mind believes, so the idea was to speak positive ideas to fool, as it were, your subconscious mind. It actually works.

    The concept that the left uses of making you say the nonsense they preach outloud is that it actually works on your subconscious mind. You can actually begin to believe that biological men can become women. That the Biden economy is actually roaring. That the borders are closed. It goes on and on. If you are one of those poor deluded men who think that they are women it really does cause them a good deal of distress to be reintroduced to reality, to be told they are actually men. To them it is a cruel trick, a microaggression, violence. So, for a tiny percentage of the population, almost below countable, the rest of us, the normies, have to change our thinking and our speech to respect the feelings of the mentally disturbed.

    Not bloody likely!!!

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  15. Eb Snider Member
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    Dennis Leary

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