Did Biden Light the Fuse to World War III?

 

You need to ask yourself, why did Biden approve US missiles being fired into the Russian heartland? If we were fighting Cuba and, say, Russia staged missiles in Cuba, then launched them into the United States, how long would it be before we attack Russia directly? Seconds or minutes?

This is a reckless abuse of power and exceeds the level of impeachment. Supplying defensive weapons and intelligence is one thing, but actively fighting Russians with our intelligence, in their home, with our own weapons, is asking for World War III.

Something this big should have involved Congress. What do we do if Ukraine gets attacked with a tactical nuke?

Why isn’t anyone outraged at this? Where are the anti-war lefties? They are all silent because a Democrat did it.

Is Biden actively trying to sabotage the new Trump administration? Does Zelensky have dirt on the Biden crime family, and this is a last payment to keep quiet?

Short post with big implications and too many questions…

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  1. EODmom Coolidge
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    Biden himself is not doing much of anything. The weasels in the alphabet agencies are for sure doing their damnest to sabotage the Trump administration. The whole administration is on auto pilot based on a schematic set up years ago, I believe. I expect the bombs away tactic is what they’ve wanted to do for a long time and no one is holding them back now. Congress is silent because so many of them are happy about said sabotaging. I think it’s much deeper and more foul than just trying to get their last royalty payment on the defense contracts. 

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  2. Fritz Coolidge
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    Hmmmm:

    Sweden today alerted its citizenry to be prepared for war with Russia. By the way, Sweden just joined NATO a few months ago in 2024.

    I doubt Putin would hit the US at once, but if one of these US-supplied and guided systems is used with NATO and US help to attack deep inside Russia, I would not be surprised if the locations from which the guidance and other communications originate are subjected to an immediate, massive, retaliatory strike by Russia.

    No idea where these facilities are, but let’s say they are in Germany or Turkey. Russia strikes them. Germany and Turkey are both NATO members and an attack on one is an attack on all.

    So adios amigos. It’s been nice knowing ya. And FJB. 

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  3. Percival Thatcher
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    “The Russian heartland” is further away from Ukraine than 190 miles, and yet that’s the maximum range of an ATACMS missile. That’s assuming that Ukraine even has any extended range ATACMS. We haven’t been sending those, though I suppose we might have.

    We are supposed to believe that Vladimir is going to go nuclear over those missiles, when Ukrainian-made drones can and have been hitting targets hundreds of miles further in from ATACMS at extreme range.

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  4. Chowderhead Coolidge
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    EODmom (View Comment):
    I think it’s much deeper and more foul than just trying to get their last royalty payment on the defense contracts. 

    I was thinking more in terms of Burisma, but that too.

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  5. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    @drbastiat

    This is going to be a very interesting 3 months. 

    Good bless those poor people, who are about to die because an election in a place they’ve never been to turned out in a way that somebody they’ve never met didn’t like.

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  6. Chowderhead Coolidge
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    @Podunk

    Percival (View Comment):

    “The Russian heartland” is further away from Ukraine than 190 miles, and yet that’s the maximum range of an ATACMS missile. That’s assuming that Ukraine even has any extended range ATACMS. We haven’t been sending those, though I suppose we might have.

    We are supposed to believe that Vladimir is going to go nuclear over those missiles, when Ukrainian-made drones can and have been hitting targets hundreds of miles further in from ATACMS at extreme range.

    Is the heartland a defined zone? I just assumed deep into Russian territory. 

    The point is they are being struck on their soil with our missiles. Other than the nuclear issue, I was drawing a comparison to the Cuban Missile Crisis and why would they not be outraged. 

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  7. Bob Thompson Member
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    Zelensky and Trump have spoken. It is not known who might initiate firing the missiles that have been approved.  We don’t know much about who is in charge of these events.

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  8. Bishop Wash Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Zelensky and Trump have spoken. It is not known who might initiate firing the missiles that have been approved. We don’t know much about who is in charge of these events.

    If only a chow thief had been listening so he could leak the details. “The President is following my foreign policy. Waaahh!”

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  9. Percival Thatcher
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    Chowderhead (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    “The Russian heartland” is further away from Ukraine than 190 miles, and yet that’s the maximum range of an ATACMS missile. That’s assuming that Ukraine even has any extended range ATACMS. We haven’t been sending those, though I suppose we might have.

    We are supposed to believe that Vladimir is going to go nuclear over those missiles, when Ukrainian-made drones can and have been hitting targets hundreds of miles further in from ATACMS at extreme range.

    Is the heartland a defined zone? I just assumed deep into Russian territory.

    The point is they are being struck on their soil with our missiles. Other than the nuclear issue, I was drawing a comparison to the Cuban Missile Crisis and why would they not be outraged.

    The point is that things have been going whumph hundreds of miles from the war zone. Ammo depots, refineries, fuel storage, chemical plants … the Ukes have gotten very good at drone technology in a very short time. They are teaching us a thing or two.

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  10. Fritz Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Chowderhead (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    “The Russian heartland” is further away from Ukraine than 190 miles, and yet that’s the maximum range of an ATACMS missile. That’s assuming that Ukraine even has any extended range ATACMS. We haven’t been sending those, though I suppose we might have.

    We are supposed to believe that Vladimir is going to go nuclear over those missiles, when Ukrainian-made drones can and have been hitting targets hundreds of miles further in from ATACMS at extreme range.

    Is the heartland a defined zone? I just assumed deep into Russian territory.

    The point is they are being struck on their soil with our missiles. Other than the nuclear issue, I was drawing a comparison to the Cuban Missile Crisis and why would they not be outraged.

    The point is that things have been going whumph hundreds of miles from the war zone. Ammo depots, refineries, fuel storage, chemical plants … the Ukes have gotten very good at drone technology in a very short time. They are teaching us a thing or two.

    True, but the long-range missile strikes, if they happen, with NATO- or US-provided guidance would be a humiliation for Putin domestically, and might therefore call for a robust retaliation.

    Miscalculations of others’ intentions and ways of thinking are not unknown as stepping stones to wider war.

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  11. Percival Thatcher
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    Fritz (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Chowderhead (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    “The Russian heartland” is further away from Ukraine than 190 miles, and yet that’s the maximum range of an ATACMS missile. That’s assuming that Ukraine even has any extended range ATACMS. We haven’t been sending those, though I suppose we might have.

    We are supposed to believe that Vladimir is going to go nuclear over those missiles, when Ukrainian-made drones can and have been hitting targets hundreds of miles further in from ATACMS at extreme range.

    Is the heartland a defined zone? I just assumed deep into Russian territory.

    The point is they are being struck on their soil with our missiles. Other than the nuclear issue, I was drawing a comparison to the Cuban Missile Crisis and why would they not be outraged.

    The point is that things have been going whumph hundreds of miles from the war zone. Ammo depots, refineries, fuel storage, chemical plants … the Ukes have gotten very good at drone technology in a very short time. They are teaching us a thing or two.

    True, but the long-range missile strikes, if they happen, with NATO- or US-provided guidance would be a humiliation for Putin domestically, and might therefore call for a robust retaliation.

    Miscalculations of others’ intentions and ways of thinking are not unknown as stepping stones to wider war.

    I don’t know. Which is more humiliating: getting hit by weapons designed in the labs of the Evil West, or by drones being whipped up in garages in Kiev and Odessa?

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  12. GPentelie Coolidge
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    @GPentelie

    Personally, in regards to WWIII risks, I keep an eye on what the most informed group of people in the world (the global stock market “movers and shakers”) are doing. Their response to this BREAKING! news has been a … yawn.

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  13. Miffed White Male Member
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    The only scandal is that we haven’t been letting the Ukrainians hit Russian safe zones for the last 2 and a half years.

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  14. GPentelie Coolidge
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    The only scandal is that we haven’t been letting the Ukrainians hit Russian safe zones for the last 2 and a half years.

    That’s something to be relatively thankful for, I would say. That’s what has enabled Putin to keep the real dogs of war in Russia from getting the upper hand in regards to how this war has been conducted. NOBODY, least of all Ukrainians, should wish to witness the hell that an unleashed Russian military, with the wind of full throated support from the Russian public in their sails, would wreak upon that land. From methodical controlled demolition to all out make the rubble bounce so high you can see it from 10 Downing Street. Ugh.

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  15. kedavis Coolidge
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    GPentelie (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    The only scandal is that we haven’t been letting the Ukrainians hit Russian safe zones for the last 2 and a half years.

    That’s something to be relatively thankful for, I would say. That’s what has enabled Putin to keep the real dogs of war in Russia from getting the upper hand in regards to how this war has been conducted. NOBODY, least of all Ukrainians, should wish to witness the hell that an unleashed Russian military, with the wind of full throated support from the Russian public in their sails, would wreak upon that land. From methodical controlled demolition to all out make the rubble bounce so high you can see it from 10 Downing Street. Ugh.

    The evidence to date might suggest that they are not actually capable of doing that.  Not without nukes, anyway.

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  16. GPentelie Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    The only scandal is that we haven’t been letting the Ukrainians hit Russian safe zones for the last 2 and a half years.

    That’s something to be relatively thankful for, I would say. That’s what has enabled Putin to keep the real dogs of war in Russia from getting the upper hand in regards to how this war has been conducted. NOBODY, least of all Ukrainians, should wish to witness the hell that an unleashed Russian military, with the wind of full throated support from the Russian public in their sails, would wreak upon that land. From methodical controlled demolition to all out make the rubble bounce so high you can see it from 10 Downing Street. Ugh.

    The evidence to date might suggest that they are not actually capable of doing that. Not without nukes, anyway.

    Au contraire. Reality on the ground, especially over the past year, has made it harder and harder for the peddlers of the “Russia is running out of steam” narrative to sell their wares. 

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    GPentelie (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    The only scandal is that we haven’t been letting the Ukrainians hit Russian safe zones for the last 2 and a half years.

    That’s something to be relatively thankful for, I would say. That’s what has enabled Putin to keep the real dogs of war in Russia from getting the upper hand in regards to how this war has been conducted. NOBODY, least of all Ukrainians, should wish to witness the hell that an unleashed Russian military, with the wind of full throated support from the Russian public in their sails, would wreak upon that land. From methodical controlled demolition to all out make the rubble bounce so high you can see it from 10 Downing Street. Ugh.

    The evidence to date might suggest that they are not actually capable of doing that. Not without nukes, anyway.

    Au contraire. Reality on the ground, especially over the past year, has made it harder and harder for the peddlers of the “Russia is running out of steam” narrative to sell their wares.

    But doesn’t an apparent need to import lots of North Koreans support that argument?

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  18. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    It might be the case that Biden is publicly unleashing Ukraine with missiles, but privately preventing them from targeting inside Russia. 

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    It might be the case that Biden is publicly unleashing Ukraine with missiles, but privately preventing them from targeting inside Russia.

    I’m thinking the reverse of that would be more effective.

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  20. Richard O'Shea Coolidge
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    I was sure Russia would roll over Ukraine in a week.

    So did Putin. This is not going well for him.

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  21. GPentelie Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    The only scandal is that we haven’t been letting the Ukrainians hit Russian safe zones for the last 2 and a half years.

    That’s something to be relatively thankful for, I would say. That’s what has enabled Putin to keep the real dogs of war in Russia from getting the upper hand in regards to how this war has been conducted. NOBODY, least of all Ukrainians, should wish to witness the hell that an unleashed Russian military, with the wind of full throated support from the Russian public in their sails, would wreak upon that land. From methodical controlled demolition to all out make the rubble bounce so high you can see it from 10 Downing Street. Ugh.

    The evidence to date might suggest that they are not actually capable of doing that. Not without nukes, anyway.

    Au contraire. Reality on the ground, especially over the past year, has made it harder and harder for the peddlers of the “Russia is running out of steam” narrative to sell their wares.

    But doesn’t an apparent need to import lots of North Koreans support that argument?

    The number of NKs is unknown. I’ve seen estimates ranging from 2K to 15K. As for NEED, that’s yet more “Russia’s running out of [insert item du jour]” wishcasting of the type that we’ve been fed since the war started.

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  22. GPentelie Coolidge
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    Richard O'Shea (View Comment):

    I was sure Russia would roll over Ukraine in a week.

    So did Putin. This is not going well for him.

    The “Russia’s gonna take Kiev in 3 days, a week tops” prognostication didn’t come from Putin. It came from a leaked briefing given by … Milley. This was reported on (WaPo, IIRC) a couple of years ago.

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  23. Chowderhead Coolidge
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  24. Percival Thatcher
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    Chowderhead (View Comment):

    Putin has been rattling that saber every six weeks or so. If he keeps it up, the pommel will work loose from the hilt and then he’ll have to take it to a swordsmith to get it fixed.

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  25. Richard O'Shea Coolidge
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    GPentelie (View Comment):

    Richard O’Shea (View Comment):

    I was sure Russia would roll over Ukraine in a week.

    So did Putin. This is not going well for him.

    The “Russia’s gonna take Kiev in 3 days, a week tops” prognostication didn’t come from Putin. It came from a leaked briefing given by … Milley. This was reported on (WaPo, IIRC) a couple of years ago.

    Sounds like Putin and Milley agreed.

    Ukrainians had other ideas.

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  26. Percival Thatcher
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    Richard O'Shea (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    Richard O’Shea (View Comment):

    I was sure Russia would roll over Ukraine in a week.

    So did Putin. This is not going well for him.

    The “Russia’s gonna take Kiev in 3 days, a week tops” prognostication didn’t come from Putin. It came from a leaked briefing given by … Milley. This was reported on (WaPo, IIRC) a couple of years ago.

    Sounds like Putin and Milley agreed.

    Ukrainians had other ideas.

    Neither Putin nor Milley appreciated how incompetent the invasion plan was, how poorly maintained their equipment was, and the practically nonexistent NCO cadre meant that officers were required to exert direct control over their men because there was no one available to delegate command and control to. One Ukrainian special forces team could screw up a road intersection in the woods for hours, only to melt away, move down the road, and do it all over again.

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  27. Richard O'Shea Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Richard O’Shea (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    Richard O’Shea (View Comment):

    I was sure Russia would roll over Ukraine in a week.

    So did Putin. This is not going well for him.

    The “Russia’s gonna take Kiev in 3 days, a week tops” prognostication didn’t come from Putin. It came from a leaked briefing given by … Milley. This was reported on (WaPo, IIRC) a couple of years ago.

    Sounds like Putin and Milley agreed.

    Ukrainians had other ideas.

    Neither Putin nor Milley appreciated how incompetent the invasion plan was, how poorly maintained their equipment was, and the practically nonexistent NCO cadre meant that officers were required to exert direct control over their men because there was no one available to delegate command and control to. One Ukrainian special forces team could screw up a road intersection in the woods for hours, only to melt away, move down the road, and do it all over again.

    And it would have still succeeded if Zelenskyy and the government had abandoned Kiev. 

     

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  28. Steve Fast Member
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    Chowderhead: You need to ask yourself, why did Biden approve US missiles being fired into the Russian heartland? If we were fighting Cuba and say Russia staged missiles in Cuba, then launched them into the United States, how long would it be before we attack Russia directly? Seconds or minutes?

    There’s a vast difference between these two scenarios. The equivalent would be if the US had invaded Cuba, and Russia had given or sold Cuba missiles to use against the US, but ONLY for American targets located on their own island. And then after almost 3 years, Russia lifted the restrictions and said that Cuba could fire them the full-range of 190 miles into the US mainland.

    Your scenario sounds like the Cuban Missile Crisis. But those were nuclear missiles under Soviet control in Cuba. These are short-range conventional missiles under Ukrainian control. Actually now they are more under Ukrainian control than they were since we have lifted some (maybe all?) restrictions on them.

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  29. Spin Coolidge
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    @Spin

    If there’s a fuse, and the fuse is lit, it was lit by Putin.  Loathe as I am to defend JayBee….

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  30. Steve Fast Member
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    @SteveFast

    The linked article doesn’t even contain a pro forma threat from Putin to use nukes against us. Maybe he’s grown tired of making empty threats. Maybe he realizes that he has trained the American isolationists so well that they will do it for him.

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