Data or Delusion?

 

It’s been bothering me all day. What data was the Harris Campaign running on?

It came out that before the Coup, Biden would lose the general election by 400 electoral points. But he still insisted he could beat Trump again—clearly a delusion.

But did Harris also have delusions? She was attempting to bridge a coalition of the usual long-suffering Democrat serfs along with disaffected Republicans of the Lincoln Project and Lizzy Cheney, who, as an incumbent, lost in the primary by about 300%… What evidence is there that a Cheney wing of the Republican party exists? That there is a large pool of anti-Trump disaffected Republicans out there willing to vote for these Democrats? Dick Cheney was the least popular VP in the modern era—not just with the general public or Democrats, but also Republicans… Where is this mythical Cheney Wing? Bohemian Grove?

It’s not morning in America. (Unless you spell it mourning.) It’s not 1984. You can’t run away from issues with a vacuous campaign of Brat Summer, Joy and Vibes. With an angry, disillusioned electorate living in dread as they watch the gas gauge drop to ‘E’ …

I would really love to see the data that drove the Harris Campaign from messaging disaster to complete cluster detonation… Was there any? Or were they all deluded into thinking that their serfs would never leave?

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  1. Brian J Bergs Coolidge
    Brian J Bergs
    @BrianBergs

    Data?

    Datum is more like it…”I’m not Donald Trump.”

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  2. namlliT noD Member
    namlliT noD
    @DonTillman

    Who needs data?

    I believe she was the only one who was able to step in without the risk of losing $1 billion in funding, and who didn’t refuse the position.

    And she grew up in a middle class family.

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  3. Columbo Member
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    It was Harris ONLY because she could take the Biden funds. DEI bites the dems in their azz! The only reason Harris was in that position was because she was a black female.  Biden hated her.

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  4. philo Member
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    @philo

    She was counting on the “most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics” that she inherited from FJB. The machine worked in 2020 and the rubes actually bought the 80-plus million vote punchline. Surely/Shirley it had to work again. 

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  5. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    philo (View Comment):

    She was counting on the “most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics” that she inherited from FJB. The machine worked in 2020 and the rubes actually bought the 80-plus million vote punchline. Surely/Shirley it had to work again.

    The problem is that was Joe Biden’s organization. They were not going out to risk felonies (low risk I know) for Kamala. So Joe didnt call them and they (largely) stayed home…

    Looks like there is an issue in Milwaukee were the ballots dont add up. 150% to 200% turn out. In a city with a declining population… 

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  6. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    OccupantCDN: But did Harris also have delusions? She was attempting to bridge a coalition of the usual long suffering democrat serfs with disaffected republicans of the Lincoln Project and Lizzy Cheney, who as an incumbent lost in the primary by about 300%… What evidence is there, that there is a Cheney Wing of the republican party? That there is a large pool of anti-trump disaffected republicans out there, willing to vote for these democrats? Dick Cheney was the least popular VP in the modern era – not just with the general public or democrats, but also republicans… Where is this mythical Cheney Wing? Bohemian Grove?

    The serfs were suffering far more than the Harris campaign realized. The Chaney/Lincoln Project legions were mostly in the fevered (for once) imaginations of the GOPe. Trump and Vance appeared on Joe Rogan for three hours each and thus reached more people than saw the combined evening newscasts of ABC, NBC, and CBS for an entire week. The audience they were reaching on the podcasts skewed much lower in age than the networks brought in too. 

    A lot of factors went into the Democrats complete misreading of their situation, but a major one may have been the symbiotic relationship between the traditional media and the progressives. The media didn’t broadcast bad news about the economy, thus the progs didn’t hear the bad news, thus they didn’t react to the bad news.

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  7. EJHill Staff
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    OccupantCDN: Looks like there is an issue in Milwaukee were the ballots dont add up. 150% to 200% turn out. In a city with a declining population…

    There is not any precinct that shows 150-200% turnout. There are a handful that show 101%. Wisconsin is one of 21 states that permit same day registration with a valid ID and proof of residency.

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  8. Jim McConnell Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN: Looks like there is an issue in Milwaukee were the ballots dont add up. 150% to 200% turn out. In a city with a declining population…

    There is not any precinct that shows 150-200% turnout. There are a handful that show 101%. Wisconsin is one of 21 states that permit same day registration with a valid ID and proof of residency.

    Thanks, EJ, you always post factual information instead of talking points.

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  9. philo Member
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN: Looks like there is an issue in Milwaukee were the ballots dont add up. 150% to 200% turn out. In a city with a declining population…

    There is not any precinct that shows 150-200% turnout. There are a handful that show 101%. Wisconsin is one of 21 states that permit same day registration with a valid ID and proof of residency.

    Thanks, EJ, you always post factual information instead of talking points.

    Given the pathetically and intentionally polluted state of specifically targeted voting rolls, I would be suspicious of (almost) any turnout above 80% and would throw the red flag (for a booth review) for anything over 85%…the difference between 85% and the 101% stated in the feel-good “factual information” provided leaves a lot of room for mischief. Just sayin’…

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  10. EJHill Staff
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    Wisconsin has a history of leading the nation in turnout. Tuesday morning it was estimated 73% of the eligible population cast ballots.

    Trump received a boost from low propensity voters and got an almost state-wide 1.5% boost from them in both rural and urban areas.

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Wisconsin has a history of leading the nation in turnout. Tuesday morning it was estimated 73% of the eligible population cast ballots.

    Trump received a boost from low propensity voters and got an almost state-wide 1.5% boost from them in both rural and urban areas.

    Hang on.  Are you admitting that Trump was…. POPULAR?

    c’mon, man!

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  12. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN: Looks like there is an issue in Milwaukee were the ballots dont add up. 150% to 200% turn out. In a city with a declining population…

    There is not any precinct that shows 150-200% turnout. There are a handful that show 101%. Wisconsin is one of 21 states that permit same day registration with a valid ID and proof of residency.

    I got that from a youtube video from someone from Wisconsin who was upset that he went to bed happy that the senate seat was safely won – only to wake up and discover a 4 AM ballot dump – that went 99% democrat suddenly appeared… He was talking for his emotional point of view – unscripted, so I am sure he exaggerated ‘slightly’…

    Found the video:

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  13. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
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    philo (View Comment):

    She was counting on the “most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics” that she inherited from FJB. The machine worked in 2020 and the rubes actually bought the 80-plus million vote punchline. Surely/Shirley it had to work again.

    Precisely. It tried, but “too big to rig” worked. 

    We now have one last chance to fix things. Last time they used COVID and other excuses to rig the election, and immediately tried to write into law enough of it to give them a permanent advantage (“ranked choice,” my pasty white butt.). We’ve got a lot of work to do to come even close to the level of corruption that LBJ and JFK relied on. 

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  14. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Columbo (View Comment):
    It was Harris ONLY because she could take the Biden funds.

    The money could have been transferred to the DNC and then used for any purpose.   It was Biden (or someone with his Twitter account) that endorsed Harris, when Obama and Pelosi wanted a mini-primary.  

    As for delusion, it is really just marketing.  Campaigns have to project success to generate a bandwagon effect, which brings in more voters and more money.   In 2020 there was a vast difference between polling and ballots counted.   Perhaps Harris thought that would happen again.

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  15. EJHill Staff
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    kedavis: Hang on. Are you admitting that Trump was…. POPULAR?

    c’mon, man!

    Or less unpopular than his opponent. Don’t conflate her negatives as a personal mark of popularity for him.

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  16. philo Member
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    It was Harris ONLY because she could take the Biden funds. DEI bites the dems in their azz! The only reason Harris was in that position was because she was a black female. Biden hated her.

    I don’t think it is/was clear that that bold point is accurate under campaign finance laws. (At least by the mechanism used to do it. I’m sure there are ways.) Yes, I know…citing campaign finance laws wrt D party ops shouldn’t be (and wasn’t) said with a straight face. If it was ever clarified for us lowly masses, I certainly missed it. But I suspect nobody cared to even check. 

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  17. Old Bathos Member
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    Wisconsin looks like a sizeable number of Democrats deserted Kamala but stuck with Tammy Baldwin.  The Senate vote in Madison and Milwaukee closely mirrored the presidential vote.  I have not done a deep dive but it looks like Hovde did not get the same margins as Trump in all the counties that voted GOP.   She is a lousy Senator but incumbents are tough to beat.

    I have zero faith in the integrity of Milwaukee Democrats but there are logistical limits as to how many votes you can steal.  Milwaukee turnout was around 450,000.  The total votes and the percent for and against Trump was almost identical to 2020. The same was true in Madison. Even my personal rule of thumb of a minimum of 3 to 5,000 traditional bogus votes in Milwaukee would not be dispositive with regard to this outcome.

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  18. Old Bathos Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Wisconsin looks like a sizeable number of Democrats deserted Kamala but stuck with Tammy Baldwin. The Senate vote in Madison and Milwaukee closely mirrored the presidential vote. I have not done a deep dive but it looks like Hovde did not get the same margins as Trump in all the counties that voted GOP. She is a lousy Senator but incumbents are tough to beat.

    I have zero faith in the integrity of Milwaukee Democrats but there are logistical limits as to how many votes you can steal. Milwaukee turnout was around 450,000. The total votes and the percent for and against Trump was almost identical to 2020. The same was true in Madison. Even my personal rule of thumb of a minimum of 3 to 5,000 traditional bogus votes in Milwaukee would not be dispositive with regard to this outcome.

    Maybe I grossly underestimated the Milwaukee cheat levels:

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1856506310444941571

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    She was counting on the “most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics” that she inherited from FJB. The machine worked in 2020 and the rubes actually bought the 80-plus million vote punchline. Surely/Shirley it had to work again.

    Precisely. It tried, but “too big to rig” worked.

    How do you figure?  Why couldn’t they have just used the machine to produce #lol81millionvotes again, this time for Harris?

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  20. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    @CarolJoy

    Very simply: people who live inside a bubble cannot correctly decide the temperment of an entire  electorate.

    They think that because they can get a slew of paid off rap and hip hop artists to extol their virtues that this would keep the voters in their pocket.

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  21. David Pettus Coolidge
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    Wasn’t that the whole point of the Brett Baier interview – to reach out to moderates and Liz Cheney types?  She couldn’t even manage to do that without sounding like a socialist.

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  22. Steve Fast Member
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    It was Harris ONLY because she could take the Biden funds. DEI bites the dems in their azz! The only reason Harris was in that position was because she was a black female. Biden hated her.

    The irony is that money turned out to be unimportant because she raised a billion dollars. Likely the party could have picked anyone and raised hundreds and hundreds of millions.

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  23. Steve Fast Member
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    philo (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    It was Harris ONLY because she could take the Biden funds. DEI bites the dems in their azz! The only reason Harris was in that position was because she was a black female. Biden hated her.

    I don’t think it is/was clear that that bold point is accurate under campaign finance laws. (At least by the mechanism used to do it. I’m sure there are ways.) Yes, I know…citing campaign finance laws wrt D party ops shouldn’t be (and wasn’t) said with a straight face. If it was ever clarified for us lowly masses, I certainly missed it. But I suspect nobody cared to even check.

    I remember the Trump campaign filing an FEC complaint, but I don’t know what became of it. The way the FEC works it will probably be placed on the urgent docket and decided sometime after 2028.

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  24. Joseph Eagar Member
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    It’s hard  to run accurate election polls when millions (tens of millions?) of voters are too afraid to participate.

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  25. Percival Thatcher
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    @Percival

    Joseph Eagar (View Comment):

    It’s hard to run accurate election polls when millions (tens of millions?) of voters are too afraid to participate.

    I’m not afraid. I’m annoyed. When I get a phone call from a pollster, I quote them my hourly consulting rate.

    EDIT: LTNS Joseph!

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