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Better To Win Now than 2020?
Trump was unfocused last time, and did not manage to drain the swamp (and much else besides).
But now he has an executive team of people who have achieved great things through leadership: Elon and Vivek chief among them. I think that, in hindsight, Trump may save America because he lost in 2020, only to win in 2024 with a mandate, and a deep hunger to get the job done. Destroying the Deep State, fixing elections, maximizing cheap energy, restoring pride in American culture and the entrepreneurial spirit…. so very much to get excited about!
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This thought crossed my mind. But I’m not sure. It’s never good to lose.
I think.
But sometimes a setback can lead to good things.
I suspect that you may be right. I pray that you are.
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We didn’t know the half of the problems in 2020. Maybe we don’t even now, but we do know much more.
The damage to the country in the last 4 years is immense. No.
They stole 2020 ( 20 million dem votes just vanished, Kamalas number are in line with Obama and Clinton).
I’ll take it, but absolutely no.
Very good point.
I credit the modest turning point to be the VP Debate where J.D. Vance outclassed Tim “deer in the headlights” Walz by a mile. Trump’s polling numbers began to slowly rise at that point and eventually erased his deficit against his empty-brained opponent. Normally, VP debates do not impress much, but this year we were limited to a single debate by the headliners where Trump’s worst flaws were on display for all to absorb. And for some unknown reason, ever since the VP debate, Trump has kept his big yap shut from spewing all the expected rubbish that he is known for. I think even his tweets softened up. My wife attributes this to a dose of humility that set in after his assassination attempts. It only takes a few short weeks or months for many voters with short attention spans to forget the sins of the past.
I hope and pray that you are right, and I hope that he continues to hire the right people and let them get to work.
I suspect that what we are seeing is not so much Trump himself changing, but the perception of him. He’s never been a screaming racist. He’s not an anti-semite, clearly. People who get a chance to meet him find him to be a nice guy. I think he has been a nice guy all along and the Hitler-Hitler-Hitler mud is sliding off.
I noted a long time ago that the various things he has been charged with, indicted for, impeached for and accused of are often patently ridiculous if you look at them in any detail. Of course, their purpose is not to be sensible or real, they exist so people can call him a convicted felon. If all the special counsels and investigators and such can find is the drivel they actually bring into court, Trump is the most honest New York City real estate mogul in history.
As I am fond of saying: Eighty-Plus Million Biden Votes My Arse.
Someone linked to an “X” where some dems were saying maybe they did steal the election in 2020. I do think it helped to strengthen the ground game on Election Day to watch the polls. Maybe now the rest of the country and start to be like Florida and get better at this election tally thing. ;)
The Democrats stole the presidential elections in 1960 and 2020. After 1960, America lost two decades to the left’s social wrecking ball and their warmongering. After 2020, they gave us a social plague and the near-destruction of the economy, and lit the world outside on fire.
Let’s hope it doesn’t take us two decades to undo what they’ve done this time. But we will never get that time back. All those people and families don’t get to say “Oh, we won now. Start over!” Lives once stunted by the left never achieve what they deserve, because we are neither static nor immortal.
It would have been immeasurably better if we had prevented the filth of the left from stealing our election in 2020. We’d be better off today, and that’s where we start from. Never give them an inch.
I agree, I think absolutely no. I just got back from a couple of weeks in Ukraine. I typically try to avoid overly political chat with them but it was so close to the election I couldn’t avoid it. I have to say. I was pretty surprised to hear the great majority were hoping for a Trump win. Not able to have super deep discussions but it seems a big reason for most is that they don’t even think the invasion would have happened if he won in 2020. I strongly believe that, too. If the invasion didn’t happen, I tend to believe the Oct 7 attacks wouldn’t have either, at least not at that scale and level of coordination.
A chart of the votes in the last four elections (from CTH):
In 2024 there are 18 million fewer votes. That’s the approximate scale of ballot fraud from 2020. (see graphic below)
Didn’t Hillary do worse than Obama? It should start in 2008, because didn’t Obama do worse in 2012?
One could look that up, but the point is in 2020, during the height of COVID, close to 20 million more people voted than in any of the last four elections, including the current one. What, in particular, happened that was different? COVID should have reduced voting, but extreme mail-in ballot dispersal increased it. Was it real or fake? One certain fact is the mail-in votes had no chain of custody and thus no evidence of their veracity. As such, we will never know. God bless President Trump.
I assumed that there were bad actors in some of the three-letter agencies. I think Trump assumed so too. What we didn’t appreciate was how profoundly the rot had spread.
Report: Whistleblower Claims There Was an Off-Book FBI Investigation Into Trump Ordered by Comey
There was a time where I’d have dismissively laughed that off. John Sexton may have done so too.
Given all the nonsense perpetrated in the Steele Dossier/FEMA warrant do-si-do and the farce of all the lawfare cases brought, it gets easier and easier to give more attention to such charges. Just because it sounds dumber than a bag of doorknobs doesn’t mean there isn’t something to it.
I agree about 2020. I remember commenting that Trump must be the greatest politician because he supposedly got an additional ~10 million to turn out to vote for him and ~15 million to vote against him. I’d like to see a better graph so the other side can’t easily pick at it.
It might be better
1.0 he seen the power of the permanent bureaucracy
2.0 He has allies who he did not have before
3.0 More of a mandate
4.0 FJB – people saw what a joke FJB and Harris was
5.0 Corporate media – they are rated lower than congress
But, how to explain the big jump also in Republican voting for 2020?
Perhaps. Interesting to contemplate.
Clearly not better for Donald J. Trump individually.
Nevada just voted for voter ID.
No, it made him a better human being.
Undoing the damage of 4 years of Biden will be hard
I am fully prepared to be underwhelmed.
Trump faces a bucket of problems and I pray he is up to the challenge.
A chart of the votes in the last four elections (from CTH):
In 2024 there are 18 million fewer votes. That’s the approximate scale of ballot fraud from 2020. (see graphic below)
These figures have to be put in context of the U.S. population, which grows every year. More specifically, as a percentage of the eligible voter electorate for each year (number of adults eligible to register and vote in that year). Back in 2020 I made a chart that showed the popular vote winners going back to 1960 and the percentage of votes they received from the eligible electorate, which is the only fair measure. This was in response to those claiming that Biden got an unprecedented number of votes. It turns out that Biden’s numbers were high, but less than the percentages that Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon received. In fact it was only 1.4% higher than Obama received in 2008. Biden’s total looked unusually high too, because the 2016 election before, had a very low turnout.
The chart is too simple.
Add the Obama from 2008.
Wait for the rest of Kamala 2024 to be counted.
Then complete the chart.
Then make a guess about population growth from 2016 to 2020.
Then widen the category from “fraud” to “votes illegally cast or illegally counted.”
Then recognize that some of the epic Biden 2020 votes were mail-in or dropbox ballots that would never have been cast in person and were fraud-enabling, etc., etc.–but were not themselves tainted by illegality.
And then we’ll have a good guess at the number. I suspect still in the millions.
But why did the Republican vote also “spike” in 2020 and then come back down?
It didn’t. The chart is too early.
Trump will outdo his 2020 numbers. He’s almost there already. He’ll get another 2 million when they finish counting California.
Agreed. But failure is not an option its a prerequisite.
While he may not drain the swamp as effectively as we may dream of, he’ll make an attempt at it – and to quote “Predator” the deep state is dug in like an Alabama Tick.
Obama 2008 is in there. You must have missed it.
I may eventually update the chart.
Only trouble is, we don’t know how much that was in any year. Do we?
Again, I don’t know how we can determine that. We could take a guess(?)
For which election?
2020 was a boom year for voter turnout. The conventional take on this is that Covid lockdowns forced everybody to find activities to do at home, like watch more politics on TV and computers. Besides, both hatred and devotion to Trump spurred more political activism. In both 2016 and 2024, both candidates were universally disliked by the electorate.
I meant the graphic, the one with colors.
The one with colors?
No, but we change the category anyway so we’re talking about the right things.
Yes. Recognize it, and then make our best guess.
2020. The one where illegal stuff won it for the Democrats.