What is Going on at our Service Academies?

 

Someone at the US Naval Academy thought it was appropriate to invite a lefty historian, Ruth Ben-Ghiat, who has been on news shows likening Trump to authoritarian dictators she has studied. The lecture was initially to be closed to the public.  Academy grads and the Heritage Foundation pushed back and first got it opened to the public and then got her invitation revoked. Now the left has its panties in a wad and sees this as a window into an authoritarian America under Trump.

Why do they believe future officers should be exposed to all ideas, including Marxist ones? They even attack Heritage’s Project 2025 as an authoritarian playbook because it states service academy courses must be scrubbed of Marxist ideology and that service academy professors should not have tenure.

Why would service academy leadership believe it is healthy to teach future officers that their future commander-in-chief is an authoritarian leader? Are they planting the seeds for a military rebellion against Trump? How many Milleys and Vindmans are there? It is “the long march through the institutions” on full display. This warrants a congressional inquiry, but that would require a will on the part of Congress critters to push back.

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  1. Red Herring Coolidge
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    If interested, here is an article.

    https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/opinion/column/project-2025-naval-academy-ruth-ben-ghiat-heritage-foundation-UQM4A4CHTRH3FGHRO464YY7TJA/

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  2. Bob Thompson Member
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    The military services have had a good twenty-plus years since the enactment of the Patriot Act to identify and cleanse the military of those who would not take up arms against fellow Americans. I suspect there has been significant achievement of that objective.

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  3. Bob Thompson Member
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    Have you noticed a major campaign by the Democrat Leftist political campaign to attack Trump for his pointing out the Leftist enemy within America as the biggest threat to the American Republic? This identification of Trump’s rhetoric as portending dictatorial leadership is the major campaign theme falsehood being doled out by the Democrats. They know if Trump is POTUS their run is over. 

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  4. Percival Thatcher
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    I think tenure ought to be tossed out as a general principle, but in the service academies? Absolutely not.

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  5. Bob Thompson Member
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    Americans have the good fortune of already experiencing four high performance years of President Donald Trump followed by four disastrous years of Biden/Harris and Democrats. Now we get to choose.

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  6. Rodin Moderator
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Have you noticed a major campaign by the Democrat Leftist political campaign to attack Trump for his pointing out the Leftist enemy within America as the biggest threat to the American Republic?

    Just imagine what they must be thinking about Lincoln:

    All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

    At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.

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  7. EJHill Staff
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    Rodin: Just imagine what they must be thinking about Lincoln:

    All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

    At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.

    They might think that a man who died in 1865 had no concept of ICBMs or the monumental power that can be unleashed by splitting the atom.

    Bob Thompson: The military services have had a good twenty-plus years since the enactment of the Patriot Act to identify and cleanse the military of those who would not take up arms against fellow Americans. I suspect there has been significant achievement of that objective.

    I think no foreign leader in their wildest dreams could have ever imagined that it would be the American right that would be so eager to turn our country in a low-trust society where it would be so easy to drive wedges between the government, the police, the military and the American public. To hear an American urge hatred towards their fellow countrymen must give Putin and Xi orgasms.

    Red Herring: Are they planting the seeds for a military rebellion against Trump?

    As my son is a Midshipman 2/C at one of the Federal Academies, he is no danger of being “purged” or of any inclination to take up arms against civilians. I take the insinuation against my son and his fellow cadets personally.

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  8. Bob Thompson Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    As my son is a Midshipman 2/C at one of the Federal Academies, he is no danger of being “purged” or of any inclination to take up arms against civilians. I take the insinuation against my son and his fellow cadets personally.

    This is the line of thinking that has allowed Labor Unions to influence and essentially direct how the public education system and the federal bureaucracy developed organizationally for the last half century. Human Resources (HR) influence impedes productive mission performance and seeps into the private sector as well. I lived it.

    You might find out that it is not the American right that has created the low-trust level but rather the Leftist Democrats and the mainstream media.

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  9. Django Member
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    Just more of the same: John Kelly comes out swinging against Trump, says he fits ‘fascist’ definition

     

     

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  10. Rodin Moderator
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Rodin: Just imagine what they must be thinking about Lincoln:

    All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

    At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.

    They might think that a man who died in 1865 had no concept of ICBMs or the monumental power that can be unleashed by splitting the atom.

    True, but it still seems that the preferred strategy of foreign actors is to push and aid division, not unleash the ICBMs. 

     

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  11. EJHill Staff
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    Bob Thompson: You might find out that it is not the American right that has created the low-trust level but rather the Leftist Democrats and the mainstream media.

    So all the anti-cop posts and the pleading that you don’t hate segments of society enough that we see here on this site is just an illusion?

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  12. Instugator Thatcher
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson: You might find out that it is not the American right that has created the low-trust level but rather the Leftist Democrats and the mainstream media.

    So all the anti-cop posts and the pleading that you don’t hate segments of society enough that we see here on this site is just an illusion?

    I have not seen anti-cop posts. We actually do not hate the media enough.

    The media, the Department of (in)Justice, the Federal Bureau of Instigation (no relation) and the Demoncrat party  have created the low trust society you lament.

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  13. Red Herring Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Rodin: Just imagine what they must be thinking about Lincoln:

    All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

    At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.

    They might think that a man who died in 1865 had no concept of ICBMs or the monumental power that can be unleashed by splitting the atom.

    Bob Thompson: The military services have had a good twenty-plus years since the enactment of the Patriot Act to identify and cleanse the military of those who would not take up arms against fellow Americans. I suspect there has been significant achievement of that objective.

    I think no foreign leader in their wildest dreams could have ever imagined that it would be the American right that would be so eager to turn our country in a low-trust society where it would be so easy to drive wedges between the government, the police, the military and the American public. To hear an American urge hatred towards their fellow countrymen must give Putin and Xi orgasms.

    Red Herring: Are they planting the seeds for a military rebellion against Trump?

    As my son is a Midshipman 2/C at one of the Federal Academies, he is no danger of being “purged” or of any inclination to take up arms against civilians. I take the insinuation against my son and his fellow cadets personally.

    The American right isn’t the side taking Marxist critical theory into the service academies. We also aren’t the ones calling for defunding the police.  The left thrives on division. The right is the side urging its young to not volunteer to serve under military leaders who refer to them as supremacists, racists, and extremists. 

     I don’t care how you take my comment. If you take it “personally,” that is your problem. I was referring to “service academy leadership.” 

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  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson: The military services have had a good twenty-plus years since the enactment of the Patriot Act to identify and cleanse the military of those who would not take up arms against fellow Americans. I suspect there has been significant achievement of that objective.

    I think no foreign leader in their wildest dreams could have ever imagined that it would be the American right that would be so eager to turn our country in a low-trust society where it would be so easy to drive wedges between the government, the police, the military and the American public. To hear an American urge hatred towards their fellow countrymen must give Putin and Xi orgasms.

    If various sectors have shown they don’t deserve to be trusted, to insist that they must nevertheless be trusted lest we have a “low-trust society” seems very foolish and naive.

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  15. kedavis Coolidge
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson: You might find out that it is not the American right that has created the low-trust level but rather the Leftist Democrats and the mainstream media.

    So all the anti-cop posts and the pleading that you don’t hate segments of society enough that we see here on this site is just an illusion?

    I have not seen anti-cop posts. We actually do not hate the media enough.

    The media, the Department of (in)Justice, the Federal Bureau of Instigation (no relation) and the Demoncrat party have created the low trust society you lament.

    And recognizing it, is not somehow what caused it.

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  16. Django Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson: The military services have had a good twenty-plus years since the enactment of the Patriot Act to identify and cleanse the military of those who would not take up arms against fellow Americans. I suspect there has been significant achievement of that objective.

    I think no foreign leader in their wildest dreams could have ever imagined that it would be the American right that would be so eager to turn our country in a low-trust society where it would be so easy to drive wedges between the government, the police, the military and the American public. To hear an American urge hatred towards their fellow countrymen must give Putin and Xi orgasms.

    If various sectors have shown they don’t deserve to be trusted, to insist that they must nevertheless be trusted lest we have a “low-trust society” seems very foolish and naive.

    There was the republican woman in Wisconsin who claimed we have to stop all this talk about election fraud not because it’s unfounded, but rather because it’s causing people to question the integrity of our election. 

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  17. Red Herring Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson: You might find out that it is not the American right that has created the low-trust level but rather the Leftist Democrats and the mainstream media.

    So all the anti-cop posts and the pleading that you don’t hate segments of society enough that we see here on this site is just an illusion?

    Most came from one guy who has since been banned. One other person has posted a few. As for me, I love my On Patrol Live (nee Live PD).  There is a reason our Richland County Sheriff’s Dept is one of the most popular exhibits at our state fair. Insinuating that the rest of us agree with those two is a cheap shot.

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson: The military services have had a good twenty-plus years since the enactment of the Patriot Act to identify and cleanse the military of those who would not take up arms against fellow Americans. I suspect there has been significant achievement of that objective.

    I think no foreign leader in their wildest dreams could have ever imagined that it would be the American right that would be so eager to turn our country in a low-trust society where it would be so easy to drive wedges between the government, the police, the military and the American public. To hear an American urge hatred towards their fellow countrymen must give Putin and Xi orgasms.

    If various sectors have shown they don’t deserve to be trusted, to insist that they must nevertheless be trusted lest we have a “low-trust society” seems very foolish and naive.

    There was the republican woman in Wisconsin who claimed we have to stop all this talk about election fraud not because it’s unfounded, but rather because it’s causing people to question the integrity of our election.

    The very kind of thing I had in mind.

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    Bryan has been banned?  That’s a new low for Ricochet.

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  20. Django Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bryan has been banned? That’s a new low for Ricochet.

    There was a long discussion at what I believe is call the “ask a moderator” thread. 

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  21. Red Herring Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bryan has been banned? That’s a new low for Ricochet.

    How so? He is an adult who chose to post something despite many warnings. I will miss him but he isn’t a victim.

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  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bryan has been banned? That’s a new low for Ricochet.

    There was a long discussion at what I believe is call the “ask a moderator” thread.

    It was the group, not the thread.

    “Long discussion?”  There were a total of 15 comments, after the initial post.

    Well, 16 now.

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  23. Django Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bryan has been banned? That’s a new low for Ricochet.

    There was a long discussion at what I believe is call the “ask a moderator” thread.

    It was the group, not the thread.

    “Long discussion?” There were a total of 15 comments, after the initial post.

    Well, 16 now.

    It was longer than it needed to be. 

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  24. kedavis Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bryan has been banned? That’s a new low for Ricochet.

    There was a long discussion at what I believe is call the “ask a moderator” thread.

    It was the group, not the thread.

    “Long discussion?” There were a total of 15 comments, after the initial post.

    Well, 16 now.

    It was longer than it needed to be.

    “Your bad,” then.  You meant more like “long enough.”

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  25. Bob Thompson Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    I think no foreign leader in their wildest dreams could have ever imagined that it would be the American right that would be so eager to turn our country in a low-trust society where it would be so easy to drive wedges between the government, the police, the military and the American public. To hear an American urge hatred towards their fellow countrymen must give Putin and Xi orgasms.

     

    I think you are way off the mark here. There are a couple of people here who have offered specific examples of individual local police officer abuse, usually valid. I have offered no criticism of local police that I recall and I have not supported any defund the police efforts. I have criticized specific actions of federal law enforcement and I have criticized the societal institutional degradation of the law and order concepts, mostly coming from Democrats with assistance from media.

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  26. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Inactive
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    What an instructive demonstration of commitment to free speech and open discussion!

    This is exactly what I have come to expect of people on the so-called political right.  Calls to censor those with whom they disagree.

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  27. Bob Thompson Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    What an instructive demonstration of commitment to free speech and open discussion!

    This is exactly what I have come to expect of people on the so-called political right. Calls to censor those with whom they disagree.

    Well, Jerry, the Service Academies are set up to train those who will militarily defend the principles of our Constitution and the Marxist instructors showing up there will be dispensing propaganda designed to overthrow the Constitution.  A Service Academy or the military service are not open for free expression as the rest of our nation is. So I will defend Elon Musk offering the X platform to these people but not my tax dollars going to train the military to defend my country.

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  28. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    What an instructive demonstration of commitment to free speech and open discussion!

    This is exactly what I have come to expect of people on the so-called political right. Calls to censor those with whom they disagree.

    Not surprised by your comment.

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  29. EJHill Staff
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    Red Herring: Insinuating that the rest of us agree with those two is a cheap shot.

    I have been told that if you don’t actively fight something you are endorsing it. You mean that’s not true, either?

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  30. Red Herring Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Red Herring: Insinuating that the rest of us agree with those two is a cheap shot.

    I have been told that if you don’t actively fight something you are endorsing it. You mean that’s not true, either?

    1. I’m not Bryan.

    2. I don’t get whatever point you are trying to make. I am against service academies promoting Marxism and the idea that Trump is a dictator. By default, considering their oath to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, the logical conclusion is they consider Trump a domestic enemy who must be opposed. As someone who has taken that oath three times and administered it to others many times, I have a problem with what is going on now.  

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