Tim Walz said WHAT in the debate!?

 

Tim Walz perhaps just turned himself into a viral internet meme as a result of that debate. The one line that absolutely cracked me up in disbelief was when he stated: I’ve become friends with school shooters. Ooph, that’s a rough gaffe. And the expression on his face when he said it just enhances it.

I thought I might have misheard it, so I searched online and found the New York Post had already clipped it and put it in a post here.

This might seem silly, but I think ridicule is the new form of argument in the current pop culture. A casual political viewer can be swayed by these things. That’s mostly why the late night so-called “comedy” programs just clip things and ridicule with sneers. There’s no real substance to the jokes. These programs essentially instruct the audience of the correct attitudes to hold through high school-like jeering.  Nobody wants to be associated with the butt of a ridiculing joke. Not in the “cool club.” It’s also why you tend not to see any real substance in explaining issues. There’s a difference in comedy through wit versus comedy through vulgarity. One appeals to the mind, the other to visceral emotion. Both can be effective, though.

The legacy media employs a similar tactic to the pop culture shows, using ridicule. However, badgering people tends to be the emphasis. Throw out the most loaded question, soaked in accusation, and then demand the person justify it. That’s the game.

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  1. TBA, sometimes known as 'Teebs'. Coolidge
    TBA, sometimes known as 'Teebs'.
    @RobtGilsdorf

    This is how you win the low-information voter. 

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  2. Kozak Member
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    @Kozak

    In the finest Democrat tradition.

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  3. The Reticulator Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    In the finest Democrat tradition.

    How can you tell that those are democrats?

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  4. Andrew Troutman Coolidge
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    @Dotorimuk

    Kozak (View Comment):

    In the finest Democrat tradition.

    Gotta be a pic of Kamala’s sugar daddy Willie Brown with Jim Jones out there somewhere. The Dems loved that communist ____.

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  5. Kozak Member
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    Andrew Troutman (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    In the finest Democrat tradition.

    Gotta be a pic of Kamala’s sugar daddy Willie Brown with Jim Jones out there somewhere. The Dems loved that communist ____.

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  6. MisterJabberjaw Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Andrew Troutman (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    In the finest Democrat tradition.

    Gotta be a pic of Kamala’s sugar daddy Willie Brown with Jim Jones out there somewhere. The Dems loved that communist ____.

     

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  7. MisterJabberjaw Member
    MisterJabberjaw
    @MisterJabberjaw

    Ha ha ask and ye shall receive!

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  8. W Bob Member
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    @WBob

    If that’s not what he meant to say, what did he mean to say?

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  9. Eb Snider Member
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    W Bob (View Comment):

    If that’s not what he meant to say, what did he mean to say?

    Speculating here, but I think Waltz meant to say “friends with school shooting victims’ families” or similar line. But he flubbed it badly.

    However Waltz clearly meant to call himself a “knucklehead” in the debate. That was not a mistake. That will be lifted too. 

    Waltz might have given the opportunity for curious podcasters and opposition outlets to mine more lies or gross exaggerations he’s told. I’m skeptical of other claims he made in the debate with his dubious record. For example his claim that his son was present and witnesses a mass shooting. 

     

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  10. Eb Snider Member
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    The Mic Cut Moment:

    Vance getting his mic cut off by the CBS news crew was a pointed moment. Especially later in the debate when Vance argued that censorship is the biggest threat to US democracy. The mic cut occurred when Vance was responding to a so called “fact check” by the moderator. He was assertive in getting his point in, while elaborating on specifics. The moderators began talking over him and tried to rush to the next issue. As Vance continued they finally just cut his mic and stated they did. It looked quite rude to me. Maybe the audience picked up on it. 

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  11. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    W Bob (View Comment):

    If that’s not what he meant to say, what did he mean to say?

    He met the school shooters in Beijing.  

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  12. kedavis Coolidge
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    W Bob (View Comment):

    If that’s not what he meant to say, what did he mean to say?

    He met the school shooters in Beijing.

    At their training academy.

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  13. Bishop Wash Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    In the finest Democrat tradition.

    How can you tell that those are democrats?

    That’s Rosalynn Carter, right?

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  14. Not a Banana Republican Coolidge
    Not a Banana Republican
    @Dbroussa

    Listening to the full line I can see what he was trying to say.  This idea that a gaffe can make or break a campaign, I think, comes from the issue we face politically that we can no longer discuss issues because the two approaches are so far apart that they are mutually exclusive.  Heck, the political Right cannot even agree on the correct approach to solving issues that we (mostly) agree on, and the political left has a similar problem.  

    What purpose do these debates serve except to try and convince people that the “other guy” is incompetent, weird, or “out of touch” with the “average” voter when the truth is that no party or group represents that average?  Is there such a thing as an “average” voter?  Politics has become so specialized and targeted that the message is tailored to each group one speaks to—one message to this microgroup and another to that microgroup.  

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  15. Freeven Member
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    @Freeven

    It’s unfortunate that so much attention is being given to Walz’ verbal flub. The energy and focus would be better spent on his lies and policies.

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  16. Southern Pessimist Member
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    @SouthernPessimist

    I was going to post on the debate in general but will add it to this post. 

    Tim Walz, Saturday Might Live is on line 3.

    Seriously, that man has the potential to be the best comedian for that show since Belushi left. Hire him now while he is hot. Let him do his Don Rickles impersonation every week. Has there ever been a comedian with crazier crazy eyes? Jim Carey is jealous. Rodney Dangerfield is rolling in his grave asking why didn’t I run for President? “Vote for me, I am a knucklehead.” Brilliant!

    Absolutely brilliant. J D deserves an Emmy for his performance as straight man of the year for humoring his comedian sidekick. The way he tilted his head down and toward Walz while raising an eyebrow as if in astonished amusement was priceless. The best debate ever.

     

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    Southern Pessimist (View Comment):
    Seriously, that man has the potential to be the best comedian for that show since Belushi left. Hire him now while he is hot. Let him do his Don Rickles impersonation every week. Has there ever been a comedian with crazier crazy eyes? Jim Carey is jealous. Rodney Dangerfield is rolling in his grave asking why didn’t I run for President? “Vote for me, I am a knucklehead.” Brilliant!

    Pat Paulsen already did that, but I suppose it’s been long enough for someone to take his place.

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  18. Southern Pessimist Member
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    @SouthernPessimist

    I was not old enough to vote for Paulson in 1968 but I could have over the years after then. I wish I had. There is no limit, that I know of, as to how many times someone can tell the same joke. Paulson took advantage of that as most comedians do. Maybe Tampon Tim will do the same.

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  19. Yarob Coolidge
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    It was an unfortunate gaffe, but no worse in degree than Trump mistaking Argentina for a person (“You know, Argentina, great guy. He’s a big Trump guy. He loves Trump. I love him because he loves Trump. Anybody that loves me. I like them.”), or claiming that immigrants “don’t speak languages,” or repeatedly naming Obama as the president when he meant Biden. All politicians make embarrassing gaffes. They provide us with a few moments of amusement but they mean nothing.

    As for photographs of Democrats in the company of degenerates, how about this one featuring a Republican (he’s not one really and never has been, but for the purposes of this thread I’ll pretend along with the rest of you)?

    Image

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  20. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Yarob (View Comment):

    It was an unfortunate gaffe, but no worse in degree than Trump mistaking Argentina for a person (“You know, Argentina, great guy. He’s a big Trump guy. He loves Trump. I love him because he loves Trump. Anybody that loves me. I like them.”), or claiming that immigrants “don’t speak languages,” or repeatedly naming Obama as the president when he meant Biden. All politicians make embarrassing gaffes. They provide us with a few moments of amusement but they mean nothing.

    As for photographs of Democrats in the company of degenerates, how about this one featuring a Republican (he’s not one really and never has been, but for the purposes of this thread I’ll pretend along with the rest of you).

    Image

    You have proved that Trump is bad. It is devastating. I am devastated right now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh1yVvmh0EE 

     

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  21. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Yarob (View Comment):

    It was an unfortunate gaffe, but no worse in degree than Trump mistaking Argentina for a person (“You know, Argentina, great guy. He’s a big Trump guy. He loves Trump. I love him because he loves Trump. Anybody that loves me. I like them.”), or claiming that immigrants “don’t speak languages,” or repeatedly naming Obama as the president when he meant Biden. All politicians make embarrassing gaffes. They provide us with a few moments of amusement but they mean nothing.

    As for photographs of Democrats in the company of degenerates, how about this one featuring a Republican (he’s not one really and never has been, but for the purposes of this thread I’ll pretend along with the rest of you).

    Image

    You have proved that Trump is bad. It is devastating. I am devastated right now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh1yVvmh0EE

     

    As I recall, Trump was warning people to stay away from Epstein before anyone else.

    Signed,

    Epstein’s Mother.

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  22. Andrew Troutman Coolidge
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Andrew Troutman (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    In the finest Democrat tradition.

    Gotta be a pic of Kamala’s sugar daddy Willie Brown with Jim Jones out there somewhere. The Dems loved that communist ____.

    Good find!

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  23. Andrew Troutman Coolidge
    Andrew Troutman
    @Dotorimuk

    MisterJabberjaw (View Comment):

    Ha ha ask and ye shall receive!

    I guess so!

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  24. The Reticulator Member
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    In the finest Democrat tradition.

    How can you tell that those are democrats?

    That’s Rosalynn Carter, right?

    The woman looked somewhat familiar to me.  The guy not.  

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  25. Freeven Member
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    @Freeven

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    You have proved that Trump is bad. It is devastating. I am devastated right now.

    I am too. So much so that I am only going to vote for him once.

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  26. Kozak Member
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    In the finest Democrat tradition.

    How can you tell that those are democrats?

    That’s Rosalynn Carter, right?

    That is correct.

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  27. Skyler Coolidge
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    Freeven (View Comment):

    It’s unfortunate that so much attention is being given to Walz’ verbal flub. The energy and focus would be better spent on his lies and policies.

    I don’t agree.  He is a mental light weight who has advanced in his ambitions by living in a sea of constant lies.  He masks his culpability for lying by an “aw shucks” act when caught.  

    He is a communist, evil mitigated only by his stupidity.   Perhaps he is too stupid to realize how evil communism is.  Nah, he’s not quite that stupid.  

    Anything and everything to ridicule him is fair game.  

    Look what they did to Dan Quayle.  He wasn’t too bright either, but Walz makes him look like Einstein.

    Walz is in the big leagues now and he deserves every ounce of mockery we can sling at him.

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  28. The Reticulator Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    It’s unfortunate that so much attention is being given to Walz’ verbal flub. The energy and focus would be better spent on his lies and policies.

    I don’t agree. He is a mental light weight who has advanced in his ambitions by living in a sea of constant lies. He masks his culpability for lying by an “aw shucks” act when caught.

    He is a communist, evil mitigated only by his stupidity. Perhaps he is too stupid to realize how evil communism is. Nah, he’s not quite that stupid.

    Anything and everything to ridicule him is fair game.

    Look what they did to Dan Quayle. He wasn’t too bright either, but Walz makes him look like Einstein.

    Walz is in the big leagues now and he deserves every ounce of mockery we can sling at him.

    Maybe concentrate less on “fair game” and “deserves” and more on how to defeat him?  

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  29. Bishop Wash Member
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    @BishopWash

    Skyler (View Comment):
    He is a communist, evil mitigated only by his stupidity.   Perhaps he is too stupid to realize how evil communism is.  Nah, he’s not quite that stupid.  

    The Ruthless Podcast picked up that he said during the debate that the Chinese taught him everything he knows about governance. His love affair with China should be concerning to a regime media that feigned concern about foreign influence with the Russian Collusion Hoax. 

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  30. Bishop Wash Member
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    @BishopWash

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    You have proved that Trump is bad. It is devastating. I am devastated right now.

    Got me too. Usually I avoid his turds in the punchbowl, but I’m now convinced and will vote to destroy the country with Harris. Mission accomplished.

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