A 50 Million Year Cooling Trend

 

The Washington Post published an accidental truth.  In an article about climate change, they published a graphic depicting scientists best estimates of earth’s temperature over the past 485 million years…


Two things are abundantly clear:

  1.   Compared to where we are today, Earth has ALWAYS  been WARMER than today… even though modern humans were nowhere to be found in the past 484.9 million years.   Anthropogenic [edited] climate change?    Ha!    
  2. We are currently in the midst of a 50 million year cooling trend.

 

 

 

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  1. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    So I presume that The Washington Post summarized this analysis with the obvious conclusion:  They are now strongly in favor of global warming.  The Post suggests that we should burn more fossil fuels.

    Right?

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    Anthropogenic.  Common mistake.

    And let’s remember, it wasn’t all that long ago that the cries of alarm were over “The Coming Ice Age!”

    The “solution,” however, is always the same:  more government control, taxation, etc.

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  3. Ekosj Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    So I presume that The Washington Post summarized this analysis with the obvious conclusion: They are now strongly in favor of global warming. The Post suggests that we should burn more fossil fuels.

    Right?

    You are a hoot!

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    So I presume that The Washington Post summarized this analysis with the obvious conclusion: They are now strongly in favor of global warming. The Post suggests that we should burn more fossil fuels.

    Right?

    That is so 1970s-80s!  Back when they wanted to paint the polar ice caps black, and stuff.

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  5. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    Ekosj (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    So I presume that The Washington Post summarized this analysis with the obvious conclusion: They are now strongly in favor of global warming. The Post suggests that we should burn more fossil fuels.

    Right?

    You are a hoot!

    .

    Surprisingly, I was mistaken.

    Check out the extraordinary sub-hed to this article in The Post:

    “An effort to understand Earth’s past climates uncovered a history of wild temperature shifts and offered a warning on the consequences of human-caused warming.”

    So the brilliant, college-educated journalists at The Post see a 50 million year trend of continued global cooling.  And they’re worried about global warning.

    I wonder why nobody trusts the media anymore?

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  6. W Bob Member
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    I don’t know…look at the very, very end of the graph which is right now. There’s a sharp uptick! Much sharper than anything earlier in the graph. 

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  7. Ekosj Member
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    W Bob (View Comment):

    I don’t know…look at the very, very end of the graph which is right now. There’s a sharp uptick! Much sharper than anything earlier in the graph.

    The current situation is:

    a)   A blip in a 50 million year cooling trend

    Or perhaps

    b)  Reversion to the mean

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
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    Ekosj (View Comment):

    W Bob (View Comment):

    I don’t know…look at the very, very end of the graph which is right now. There’s a sharp uptick! Much sharper than anything earlier in the graph.

    The current situation is:

    a) A blip in a 50 million year cooling trend

    Or perhaps

    b) Reversion to the mean

    Or we’ve begun to make some progress against freezing to death thanks to “Nature.”

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  9. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Anthropogenic. Common mistake.

    And let’s remember, it wasn’t all that long ago that the cries of alarm were over “The Coming Ice Age!”

    The “solution,” however, is always the same: more government control, taxation, etc.

    Mayor Pete is ready lead with collaborative innovations.  

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  10. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    W Bob (View Comment):

    I don’t know…look at the very, very end of the graph which is right now. There’s a sharp uptick! Much sharper than anything earlier in the graph.

    The current situation is:

    a) A blip in a 50 million year cooling trend

    Or perhaps

    b) Reversion to the mean

    Or we’ve begun to make some progress against freezing to death thanks to “Nature.”

    So you are opposed to frigidity?  

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    W Bob (View Comment):

    I don’t know…look at the very, very end of the graph which is right now. There’s a sharp uptick! Much sharper than anything earlier in the graph.

    The current situation is:

    a) A blip in a 50 million year cooling trend

    Or perhaps

    b) Reversion to the mean

    Or we’ve begun to make some progress against freezing to death thanks to “Nature.”

    So you are opposed to frigidity?

    Both for women, and planets.

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  12. Steven Seward Member
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    This cooling trend has been known for as long as there have been paleo-climatologists.  Global Warming fanatics never bring it up, lest it disturb their scaremongering.  Another inconvenient truth is that CO2 levels are now near the lowest they have ever been in Earth’s history.  They used to be around 15 times higher at its peak than it is now, and life survived.  How ironic that the people in this mass-hysteria get the whole thing backwards.

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  13. kedavis Coolidge
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    This cooling trend has been known for as long as there have been paleo-climatologists. Global Warming fanatics never bring it up, lest it disturb their scaremongering. Another inconvenient truth is that CO2 levels are now near the lowest they have ever been in Earth’s history. They used to be around 15 times higher at its peak than it is now, and life survived. How ironic that the people in this mass-hysteria get the whole thing backwards.

    Indeed, the whole “CO2 is plant food!” issue.

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  14. Steven Seward Member
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    And another fun graph:

    14,000 years ago Sea Levels were rising at the rate of 10 feet per century.  Now they are rising at 7 inches per century.  I’d say it’s tapering off.

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  15. Steven Seward Member
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    W Bob (View Comment):

    I don’t know…look at the very, very end of the graph which is right now. There’s a sharp uptick! Much sharper than anything earlier in the graph.

    Global Warming advocates often use the meme that “well, maybe warming did indeed happen in the past, but the rate of increase today is at unprecedented levels.”  But they always conveniently forget one of the most shocking climate events of the past, the Younger Dryas Event,  about 12,000 years ago when the planet cooled and then warmed at a rate about 20 times faster than it is warming now.  And this is considered just the most recent of some 25 such events over the last 120,000 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas

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  16. Eb Snider Member
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    Atmosphere composition is another issue. I’d argue that it’s more important than slight variations in temperature. Oxygen used to have a much greater concentration in the atmosphere which at first seems like a good thing, except when you see the type of life that was around at those times, not sure as humans we’d want that

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  17. namlliT noD Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    And another fun graph:

    14,000 years ago Sea Levels were rising at the rate of 10 feet per century. Now they are rising at 7 inches per century. I’d say it’s tapering off.

    Here in the San Francisco Bay area, at the Alameda monitoring station, in continuous service for 85 years, next to the Port of Oakland, we have a sea level rise of 3.6 inches per century.   This is on top of the regular 6 foot tides.

     

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  18. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    So I presume that The Washington Post summarized this analysis with the obvious conclusion: They are now strongly in favor of global warming. The Post suggests that we should burn more fossil fuels.

    Right?

    That is so 1970s-80s! Back when they wanted to paint the polar ice caps black, and stuff.

    Leonard Nimoy even hosted and episode of “In Search of…” about this. So it had to be serious…hehehehe.

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  19. Arahant Member
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    Eb Snider (View Comment):
    Another inconvenient truth is that CO2 levels are now near the lowest they have ever been in Earth’s history.  They used to be around 15 times higher at its peak than it is now, and life survived.

    Insects! Huge insects! Mosquitoes that could carry off calves and drain them of blood.

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  20. kedavis Coolidge
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    And another fun graph:

    14,000 years ago Sea Levels were rising at the rate of 10 feet per century. Now they are rising at 7 inches per century. I’d say it’s tapering off.

     

    An old favorite:

     

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  21. Steven Seward Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Eb Snider (View Comment):
    Another inconvenient truth is that CO2 levels are now near the lowest they have ever been in Earth’s history. They used to be around 15 times higher at its peak than it is now, and life survived.

    Insects! Huge insects! Mosquitoes that could carry off calves and drain them of blood.

    Have you been watching a lot of sci-fi movies lately? Lol

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  22. Steven Seward Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    And another fun graph:

    14,000 years ago Sea Levels were rising at the rate of 10 feet per century. Now they are rising at 7 inches per century. I’d say it’s tapering off.

     

    An old favorite:

     

    But in 2024 Plymouth rock was hoisted 300 feet in the air by rising sea levels and melted into hot magma by Global warming, while Al Gore drowned at his ocean-side mansion.  (I think I drank a little too much elderberry wine tonight)

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  23. namlliT noD Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    An old favorite:

    (Wikipedia says it’s been moved a few times over the years by people who didn’t expect it to be used as a historical document of sea level.)

    I’ll point out that the tides in the area are regularly 11 feet.  So it completely depends on the time of day.

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  24. Arahant Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Eb Snider (View Comment):
    Another inconvenient truth is that CO2 levels are now near the lowest they have ever been in Earth’s history. They used to be around 15 times higher at its peak than it is now, and life survived.

    Insects! Huge insects! Mosquitoes that could carry off calves and drain them of blood.

    Have you been watching a lot of sci-fi movies lately? Lol

    No, but more oxygen does allow larger insects.

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  25. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Eb Snider (View Comment):
    Another inconvenient truth is that CO2 levels are now near the lowest they have ever been in Earth’s history. They used to be around 15 times higher at its peak than it is now, and life survived.

    Insects! Huge insects! Mosquitoes that could carry off calves and drain them of blood.

    Have you been watching a lot of sci-fi movies lately? Lol

    Or, perhaps, visited Minnesota?

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  26. Saint Augustine Member
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    Shut up, science denier.

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  27. E. Kent Golding Moderator
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    The purpose of Climate Alarmism is to empower centralized authority and diminish human freedom.   Nothing to do with Climate.

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  28. Ekosj Member
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    Maybe the most important thing about this graph is the realization that it covers 485 MILLION years!!!    All of modern humans existence is barely a pixel at the far right  in this blowup:

    Whatever is going on has precious little to do with us.   If we have an impact, it’s adding an extra shuffle to an already well shuffled deck.

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  29. Arahant Member
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Eb Snider (View Comment):
    Another inconvenient truth is that CO2 levels are now near the lowest they have ever been in Earth’s history. They used to be around 15 times higher at its peak than it is now, and life survived.

    Insects! Huge insects! Mosquitoes that could carry off calves and drain them of blood.

    Have you been watching a lot of sci-fi movies lately? Lol

    Or, perhaps, visited Minnesota?

    I live in Michigan. Same t’ing!

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  30. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Eb Snider (View Comment):
    Another inconvenient truth is that CO2 levels are now near the lowest they have ever been in Earth’s history. They used to be around 15 times higher at its peak than it is now, and life survived.

    Insects! Huge insects! Mosquitoes that could carry off calves and drain them of blood.

    Have you been watching a lot of sci-fi movies lately? Lol

    Or, perhaps, visited Minnesota?

    Skeeters the size of Lear Jet 75s.

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