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How Many Illegal Aliens Are Likely Voters? Just the Right Amount?
Surely Democrat-controlled states are doing everything they can to ensure that non-citizens who have crossed into America illegally will not vote, yes? How will they do that? By asking voters for their driver’s licenses? How many illegal migrants of voting age have a driver’s license? How many have counterfeit Social Security cards? Will their addresses be checked to see if they reside in a real location, and not a business address or P.O. Box, or perhaps for the election in Colorado, a recently vacated apartment in Aurora?
The AP and other news sources are saying that the Republican Party, its operatives and attorneys are just making a big to-do about nothing. Are left-leaning news outlets being honest about GOP concerns? Would you be surprised that these concerns are being deliberately marginalized?
Speaking of margins, how many elections, whether large or small, have been decided by a few hundred or a few thousand votes in precincts where the collection, verification, storing, control of ballots in counting centers was, well, a tad shoddy? Could 5 or 6 such counties in 5 or 6 states decide the Electoral College count that solidifies a victory for Democrats? Write your responses on a pizza box and tape the pizza box to the window with the other pizza boxes. We’ll get back to you in a few weeks with the answers.
Meanwhile, in Texas:
On Monday, Gov. Greg Abbott announced the result of a statewide effort: more than 1.1 million people were taken off the Texas voter rolls, including 6,500 noncitizens who were illegally registered to vote.
And that’s Texas, where a good number of illegal aliens are transported out to states immensely proud that they are sanctuary states, like Illinois, New York, and Massachusetts. So, it’s likely that the number of illegals likely or intending to vote in other states, especially Democrat-controlled sanctuary and swing/battleground states, could be much higher than the 6,500 noncitizens that Texas uncovered.
Some time ago, Republican members of Congress, those wild conspiracy nuts, introduced and have been trying to pass the SAVE Act, which would require every state to verify the citizenship of each voter when they register to vote. The bill was offered up too late and is doomed because Democrats who control the Senate and the White House feel the bill is unnecessary. Democrats have generally opposed other mandates of identifying voters because they claim this is always a way for Republicans to engage in “voter suppression.”
The Biden-Harris administration which has ushered in tens of millions of illegal aliens into the country perhaps even for the very purpose of preserving and expanding Democrat control nationwide, see absolutely no need for the SAVE Act, stating:
“States already have effective safeguards in place to verify voters’ eligibility and maintain the accuracy of voter rolls,” the White House continued. “This bill would do nothing to safeguard our elections, but it would make it much harder for all eligible Americans to register to vote and increase the risk that eligible voters are purged from voter rolls. The evidence is clear that the current laws to prevent noncitizen voting are working as intended — it is extraordinarily rare for noncitizens to break the law by voting in Federal elections.”
Meanwhile, in North Carolina:
The North Carolina State Board of Elections (NCSBE) is facing another lawsuit, as the Republican National Committee (RNC) is suing the battleground state for allegedly opening the door for non-citizens to vote.
The lawsuit brought by the RNC and the North Carolina Republican Party in Wake County last week accuses the NCSBE and members, Alan Hirsch, Jeff Carmon, Siobhan Millen, Stacy Eggers IV and Kevin Lewis of failing to require identification to prove citizenship.
The lawsuit alleges that by violating the Help America Vote Act (HAVA) and not checking the identification of approximately 225,000 voters, the agency “is opening the door for non-citizens to vote.”
North Carolina is the first state in the nation to start voting. The battleground state starts mailing out ballots for eligible voters on Sept. 6.
So, in two days there may be a significant number of illegal aliens voting in North Carolina – significant being defined as a number that could determine the outcome of a local, state, or national office.
The SAVE Act may have to wait for a Republican House, Senate and president for passage into law.
Meanwhile, in California, a border state that has let in a few million illegal aliens over the last 20+ years and continues to permit undocumented aliens and potential Chinese saboteurs into the state, has no problem issuing drivers’ licenses to illegals. Typically, when a voter attempts to show an I.D. at a California polling station, poll workers immediately respond by saying, “Oh, I don’t need to see that,” some even shielding their eyes, as my poll worker did when I attempted to show my I.D. in 2016. Of course, those illegal aliens, potential saboteurs, and terrorists who have entered through the porous California border aren’t likely to show up at polling stations and may have moved on to other states. This is a known phenomenon in California, even with law-abiding actual citizens.
Here are a couple of other personal anecdotes: When I purchased a brand new, never lived-in-before home in Orange County, a sample ballot with a Spanish surname as the recipient was delivered to my mailbox that had my new home’s address on it. Was this simply a clerical error from someone at the California Secretary of State’s office? Was this mailing replicated across other homes in Orange County? Who can say? Did a Democrat running for Congress win the historically Republican-held district? Why yes, yes, she did.
My other personal anecdote, which I posted here on Ricochet a few years ago, dealt with a Public Defender from the Superior Court interviewing my speech- and mentally-challenged autistic son as part of the court’s routine check-in on those in the special needs community, and falsely claiming in her report that she had a conversation with him wherein my son expressed his desire to vote. When I later pointed out to a presiding Superior Court judge that one of the public defenders (an officer of the court) likely committed perjury by submitting the false claim—because she never ever conversed with my son since I was in the room at the time—he quickly asked me to come back in 45 minutes and to confer with another Public Defender’s office representative who was in the courtroom to resolve the matter while he dealt with other cases.
How many mentally challenged, special needs adults are voting in America and don’t know what or whom they’re voting for? Have Democrat operatives ever filled in ballots for elderly Americans with dementia or Alzheimer’s who are residents of nursing homes? No, that has never <choke> happened. Sorry, hairball. Ironic question, I suppose, in a country with a mentally challenged president who shakes invisible hands and concocts stories about himself and his family that never happened. But I digress.
Of course, actually showing up at a polling station isn’t even the issue, now that mail-in ballots are being pushed as the most convenient form of voting, and ballot harvesting in some states, is now legal. Do harvested ballots show up in greater numbers if a Democrat is shown to be losing in a given voting district? How much effort is given in each state to verify signatures and addresses on mail-in ballots? Are the problems of voter verification compounded by ballot harvesting? Do ballot dropboxes ever get stuffed with hundreds or thousands of ballots in the last hours before collection? Take your time. These aren’t hard questions.
Of course, even posing questions like these can get one on the radar screen of the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security; you know, those agencies responsible for ensuring that foreign entities aren’t engaged in illegally overthrowing an American election because the question poser may be engaged in spreading misinformation or disinformation or truth labeled as misinformation or disinformation. No, as Alvin Bragg has shown in New York, even trying to influence an election is now a crime in America (and voicing concerns about the integrity of the voting process can quickly be described as attempting to influence an election). It should be noted that Mr. Bragg’s extra-legal actions aren’t at all trying to influence the 2024 Presidential Election. Shame on you for thinking such a thought.
If you’re an illegal alien—or possibly an illegal alien gang member, or someone beholden to the Mexican drug cartels, the Venezuelan dictator, or beholden to the Communist Chinese government, or the Iranian regime, and who may have escaped all efforts by the US Border Patrol of apprehension (a.k.a. got-aways)—you may not just be inclined to vote, but instructed to vote. And to vote as often as possible. Odds are these illegal voters won’t get their foreheads inked with an “I Voted” tattoo, so post-election verification or discovery is likely not to occur for some time if at all, especially in Democrat-controlled sanctuary/battleground states. But how likely a scenario is it that a decisive (decisive being the operative word) number of illegal aliens will vote? I mean really. Can you believe that some people even harbor such crazy thinking? Go figure. There are safeguards for that and our federal government is on top of the issue. Not gonna happen. Go about your business, peasants.
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They’ve been saying that for decades. But if it’s a nothing-burger, then why do they make a big deal out of asking for ID? Maybe they need to make up their minds.
From the OP:
Speaking of the DOJ and the DHS…Coincidentally, today (from The Daily Caller):
I would just like to say for the record that I am an American, born in America. I have never been to Russia. I don’t know any Russians. I don’t speak Russian. Okay, okay I know the Russian word for ‘yes’ is ‘da’ though they use some really funny letterforms. I’ve never spoken to any Russians. I’ve never communicated with any Russians. I really don’t like Russian dressing on my salad. I think it tastes disgusting. I admit that I’ve had Russian vodka with caviar but the caviar I’m pretty sure was Polish if memory serves. I do have a Blu-ray of Doctor Zhivago and am also fond of Woody Allen’s film, Love and Death. Okay, fine I have several books by Solzhenitsyn, and a few others on the Russian Revolution, and other books about Communists in Hollywood. I do like Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninoff and Rimsky-Korsakov. I saw the Kirov Ballet perform Swan Lake in New York City once. That was impressive and quite entertaining. I have heard that Hunter Biden received several million dollars from the wife of the mayor of Moscow. I was also told that Hunter Biden’s laptop was Russian disinformation from several senior American intelligence officers who may have deliberately been lying to help throw the election in 2020. I hope that puts everything in perspective.
Anyway…about those illegals that could be voting to help throw the election to Harris…how’s the investigation into that coming along? Merrick? Alejandro? Christopher? Keep us posted, will ya?
As many as are needed.
Republicans are trying to get Speaker Johnson to attach the SAVE Act to the ongoing spending resolution. The Dems want the resolution. Would they vote it down in order to avoid requiring proof of citizenship for Federal elections? If they vote it down, will they trigger a government shutdown. Is it worth shutting down the government to avoid requiring proof of citizenship? Do the Republicans have the wit to use Democrats’ reticence to do so to make a political point?
The Dims and many others seem able to get Republicans blamed for any shutdown, regardless of actual cause.
And instead of reporting the GOP’s taking a principled stand in favor of voter ID, the press will report that the GOP just wants to engage in more “voter suppression.”
One thing to note: it is not necessary for someone here illegally to use a ballot or to enter a polling place.
The more effective method of gleaning enough votes to overturn a Trump/Vance victory is simply to use the names of newly registered voters with hispanic surnames.
Here in California, the registration rolls are under the purview of the Secretary of State, who is a Democrat. A simply algorithm allowing for the inclusion of every foreigner who has applied for a driver’s license since 2022 in any district such as Orange County where it is more likely that Trump would win the vote can ensure he doesn’t win it. As long as the algorithm is then used to let the Orange County election officials use those names.
Throughout California, when a person votes at a polling place, they are issued a receipt with a number so that after the election is over, the voter can check to see if their ballot got to the county Registrar of Voter’s office with the correct candidate designation. However it sometimes occurs to me that this doesn’t mean that the vote is not switched out after it leaves the county. (My ballot leaves the county in a digitized format to go off to a centralized counting office.)
One of my daughter’s first jobs was as a loan processor for a sleazy mortgage broker who specialized in mortgages for illegal aliens. She said that the income verification documentation was bizarre– the prospective borrowers would produce pay records for different jobs under different names trying to assure her they were all the same person. Multiple IDs, other dubious paperwork was common. A large origination fee, a high interest rate, and the loan would be made to happen and would be shipped off to the secondary market with rather its dubious paperwork. The borrowers would have an entre to the American dream and an anchor address for relatives.
My girl quit that job after a couple of months, thinking that she was going to have to testify to authorities but the call never came. She was unsurprised when bad loans crashed the financial system only a few years later.
The readiness with which illegals could produce a range of fake IDs continued to surprise her. That those folks are voting (and maybe more than once) seems pretty likely to me.
Meanwhile in Nevada:
and…(emphasis mine):
It’s estimated that there are some 190,000 illegal aliens in Nevada. Arguments can be made about the accuracy of that number considering that the number of got-aways is unknown but I would hazard a guess that that number is probably higher. Las Vegas and Reno are magnets for illegal aliens looking for work or to prey on those who have cash in hand. In Clark and Wahoe counties, elections can be won or lost on a few hundred votes. I suppose the question is, why have Democrat politicians and Democrat election attorneys been reluctant to clean up the voter rolls of discovered bogus addresses? Why hasn’t the DOJ put pressure on Nevada to do so? Again, these aren’t hard questions.
And even if they aren’t voting personally, they likely produce a trail of ballots with multiple names, mailed to multiple addresses… easily “harvested.”
In Texas, the number appears to have been just under 2000. A statewide audit of voter rolls found some 6500 non-citizens as registered voters, of which some 2000 had cast ballots. YMMV, but that was the statewide Texas tally.
” Scores of voters registered at empty lots”
Atlanta Journal Constitution.
“Vacant lots had several voters registered on them. An eight-bed halfway house had more than 40 voters registered at its address,” Engelbrecht said. “We then decided to look at who was registering the voters.”
Fox News
“Let me introduce you to the duplex in Weld County, Colorado, where 418 registered voters “live”. Ninety-seven of them were listed as “active” on 12/31/21 and will thus receive a mail-out ballot at the next election. Election integrity in Colorado? I think not.”
News 9 Colorado
Our election “system” is intentionally designed to lack transparency and accountability . There are multiple points from voter registration, to mail in balloting to vote harvesting, to machine counting , to lack of voter identification that make our elections completely unreliable.
When I lived in Arizona, each election season I would see reports where voter registration confirmation postcards – many from same-day registration – would come back undeliverable for various reasons. “No such address,” etc. But the election officials never even really looked at them, so they would always say “no evidence of fraud.”
It’s pretty difficult to find evidence that you don’t look for, or at.
The Babylon Bee weighs in:
Recall the Milwaukee Police limited investigation of election fraud in 2000. Over 3,000 registration acknowledgment postcards sent to newly registered voters (all just before the election) were returned as ‘no such person,/no such address. ‘ Think about (a) how many of those cards were simply trashed and not sent back and (b) how many were sent to people in on the fraud using their address. Gore carried Wisconsin by only 5,708 votes. Golly, what are the chances the Dems stole it?
How much money does it take to get out the illegal vote?
Probably cheaper than the the walking around money that voters in New Orleans expect. Once again illegal aliens are willing to do jobs Americans don’t want at that pay level.
How much more do they need, beyond the free housing, free food, free healthcare, free tuition…?
How many Americans are now faking being illegals to put food on the table?
Seems pretty hard to fake, really. And probably illegal too. And you’d more likely get prosecuted for that, than the actual illegals do.
The House Judiciary Committee held a hearing in Santee, California today to hear testimony from law enforcement, Southern California mayors, and one Cory Gautereaux, who along with his team of investigators continue to find alarming information on items including cell phones often discarded by illegals crossing into the San Diego area. Here is just a portion of his written submitted testimony to the committee. It should also be noted that no Democrats on the committee bothered to show up:
They don’t actually need the voters. With the completely corrupt mail in system we have, if you have the data on the registered voters you just dump the ballots in the collection boxes. Many will be completely unaware of the fact that they have registered or voted.
30,000 military age men from China have entered the US illegally.
More than 30,000 Chinese people were detained by Border Patrol agents for illegally crossing the border from January to November 2023, according to U.S. Customs and Border Patrol data.
Thats 3 PLA divisions worth
House Democrats aren’t interested in any of that stuff, dismissed as just another conspiracy theory. Parallel: the vote on the bill to keep biological males out of women’s sports. Not one single Democrat voted in favor. Despicable, but when their leadership (Hakeem, I’m looking at you) says ‘jump’ they ask ‘how high’, and that’s it. No need to think about a bill, as they will directed what to do or not do.
Steve Crowder of the “Louder with Crowder” podcast went out and did his own investigation. He found the same thing: business addresses that were submitted as residences, but biz owners had never heard of the supposed resident.
Hiway medians were supposedly addresses of would be voters. So were abandoned derelict buildings.
One thing that was so irritating about the 2020 election was how at the time there were approximately 139 million registered voters but over 152 million people who voted. That is insane. The Obama election of 2008 had the highest recorded voter turnout. And that was something like 65% or so.
The idea that more people voted than were registered for the 2020 election is on that one fact alone enough to allow people to be dubious about the results. No need to call us names or to imprison people for “causing an insurrection.”
this is why the left does not want ID for voting