Binary Option: Anyone on the Public Right Publicly Not Supporting Trump is Supporting Harris

 

The simple binary outcome of this election is that either Trump or Harris will win. What we have, again, is many on what I am calling the Public Right declaring Trump unfit for office or that they will not vote for him. This helps Harris get elected. There is no squirming out of that. They can say they are being principled all they want to. It does not matter. They can sleep soundly at night, knowing their principles dictated helping Harris, who in theory, stands against everything in which they believe, win.

Thus, I will lay part of the blame for a Trump loss at the feet of the Public Right who did not support him. These include all the Never Trumpers at NRO, and anyone with any voice, any sense of public communications. In the battleground states, a few votes may make the difference. Those few votes could well be swayed by hearing the anti-Trump Public Right come around to supporting Trump.

It is clear to me that those not supporting Trump on the Public Right just don’t care. They don’t care what Biden has done to the nation, they don’t care what Harris will do. It’s all OK. No worries. All that is important is they feel good about themselves. Ironically, this is just like the voters on the left. All that matters to them is feeling good about themselves.

Maybe the anti-Trump Public Right is not so on the Right after all.

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  1. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Yarob (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens:

    The simple binary outcome of this election is that either Trump or Harris will win. What we have, again, is many on what I am calling the Public Right declaring Trump unfit for office or that they will not vote for him. This helps Harris get elected. There is no squirming out of that. They can say they are being principled all they want to. It does not matter. They can sleep soundly at night, knowing their principles dictated helping Harris, who in theory, stands against everything in which they believe, win.

    […]

    It is clear to me that those not supporting Trump on the Public Right just don’t care. They don’t care what Biden has done to the nation, they don’t care what Harris will do. It’s all OK. No worries. All that is important is they feel good about themselves. Ironically, this is just like the voters on the left. All that matters to them is feeling good about themselves.

    Maybe the anti-Trump Public Right is not so on the Right after all.

    Hey, don’t forget the Private Right! A vote for Harris is out of the question, but many of us aren’t going to vote for Trump either. My current plan is to submit a write-in vote for my late cat, Sullivan.

    .

    That will show me.

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  2. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    thelonious (View Comment):

    I’m pretty late to the party but I don’t think National Review, Commentary or the Dispatch has much sway over the public. These are pretty small publications. Seems a little extreme to blame a Trump loss at their feet. Of course nobody will blame it on Trump. It’s the people’s fault for not seeing it’s in their own interests to vote for somebody they find repugnant. Let’s just blame ignorant voters or Jonah Goldberg. Don’t take any blame for nominating somebody who clearly turns off more than half the country. Being likable to a majority of voters is an important skill set for any candidate. Trump obviously doesn’t care or try to possess that trait. And this is where we are. Mad at a few pundits who wont propagandize the Great Orange One. I think you’re barking at the mailbox on this one.

    The idea is they have some effect on voters who would otherwise vote for the GOP nominee. If this is not the case, then those publications and pundits are worthless. They have no reason to exist at all. 

     

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  3. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    thelonious (View Comment):

    I’m pretty late to the party but I don’t think National Review, Commentary or the Dispatch has much sway over the public. These are pretty small publications. Seems a little extreme to blame a Trump loss at their feet. Of course nobody will blame it on Trump. It’s the people’s fault for not seeing it’s in their own interests to vote for somebody they find repugnant. Let’s just blame ignorant voters or Jonah Goldberg. Don’t take any blame for nominating somebody who clearly turns off more than half the country. Being likable to a majority of voters is an important skill set for any candidate. Trump obviously doesn’t care or try to possess that trait. And this is where we are. Mad at a few pundits who wont propagandize the Great Orange One. I think you’re barking at the mailbox on this one.

    DeSantis might be more likeable, but he wouldn’t survive the lawfare etc.

    And if you don’t believe it, just ask Trump. Oh, wait a minute! DeSantis seems to have handled the lawfare quite well.

    Who to believe..who to believe?

    The same people who hate Trump hate how DeSantis managed Disney. Look it up! 

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    thelonious (View Comment):

    I’m pretty late to the party but I don’t think National Review, Commentary or the Dispatch has much sway over the public. These are pretty small publications. Seems a little extreme to blame a Trump loss at their feet. Of course nobody will blame it on Trump. It’s the people’s fault for not seeing it’s in their own interests to vote for somebody they find repugnant. Let’s just blame ignorant voters or Jonah Goldberg. Don’t take any blame for nominating somebody who clearly turns off more than half the country. Being likable to a majority of voters is an important skill set for any candidate. Trump obviously doesn’t care or try to possess that trait. And this is where we are. Mad at a few pundits who wont propagandize the Great Orange One. I think you’re barking at the mailbox on this one.

    DeSantis might be more likeable, but he wouldn’t survive the lawfare etc.

    And if you don’t believe it, just ask Trump. Oh, wait a minute! DeSantis seems to have handled the lawfare quite well.

    Who to believe..who to believe?

    Now THAT’S funny!  Sadly so, but still funny.

    DeSantis never faced anything like the lawfare that Trump has.  And if he did, he would have to fold, accept a plea deal, whatever, because he couldn’t possibly afford to defend himself.  He has a small fraction of the capability that Trump has.

    Ask Mike Flynn, for example.  Rudy Giuliani, for another.  John Eastman…

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  5. Red Herring Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    thelonious (View Comment):

    I’m pretty late to the party but I don’t think National Review, Commentary or the Dispatch has much sway over the public. These are pretty small publications. Seems a little extreme to blame a Trump loss at their feet. Of course nobody will blame it on Trump. It’s the people’s fault for not seeing it’s in their own interests to vote for somebody they find repugnant. Let’s just blame ignorant voters or Jonah Goldberg. Don’t take any blame for nominating somebody who clearly turns off more than half the country. Being likable to a majority of voters is an important skill set for any candidate. Trump obviously doesn’t care or try to possess that trait. And this is where we are. Mad at a few pundits who wont propagandize the Great Orange One. I think you’re barking at the mailbox on this one.

    DeSantis might be more likeable, but he wouldn’t survive the lawfare etc.

    And if you don’t believe it, just ask Trump. Oh, wait a minute! DeSantis seems to have handled the lawfare quite well.

    Who to believe..who to believe?

    Excuse me. DeSantis hasn’t been hit with the real lawfare Trump has faced. He has only faced lawsuits. Had he run, he would have gone broke after the first bimbo emerged to claim he sexually assaulted her.

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
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    Can’t think of a better place to put this:

     

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    thelonious (View Comment):

    I’m pretty late to the party but I don’t think National Review, Commentary or the Dispatch has much sway over the public. These are pretty small publications. Seems a little extreme to blame a Trump loss at their feet. Of course nobody will blame it on Trump. It’s the people’s fault for not seeing it’s in their own interests to vote for somebody they find repugnant. Let’s just blame ignorant voters or Jonah Goldberg. Don’t take any blame for nominating somebody who clearly turns off more than half the country. Being likable to a majority of voters is an important skill set for any candidate. Trump obviously doesn’t care or try to possess that trait. And this is where we are. Mad at a few pundits who wont propagandize the Great Orange One. I think you’re barking at the mailbox on this one.

    DeSantis might be more likeable, but he wouldn’t survive the lawfare etc.

    And if you don’t believe it, just ask Trump. Oh, wait a minute! DeSantis seems to have handled the lawfare quite well.

    Who to believe..who to believe?

    Excuse me. DeSantis hasn’t been hit with the real lawfare Trump has faced. He has only faced lawsuits. Had he run, he would have gone broke after the first bimbo emerged to claim he sexually assaulted her.

    Also, to whatever extent DeSantis was being sued in his official capacity, his defense cost him nothing.

    • #157
  8. Yarob Coolidge
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    Uncensored free speech on internet platforms is essential to individual freedom.

    Uncensored free speech on internet platforms would result in the extinction of the public internet as we know it as web services would rapidly be turned into outlets for every human depravity. Even if you exclude depravities like child pornography that are currently illegal, you can look forward to every website to which users can contribute content rapidly becoming unusable except by those with strong stomachs or a porn addiction.

    No conservative worthy of the name could endorse private organizations being compelled by government to publish speech they would otherwise reject for any reason or no reason at all. Happily, the Supreme Court has put a hold on Texas and Florida’s fascistic attempts to micromanage the tech industry and sent the cases back to the lower courts for further development. Let’s hope the First Amendment wins out.

    • #158
  9. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Yarob (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    Uncensored free speech on internet platforms is essential to individual freedom.

    Uncensored free speech on internet platforms would result in the extinction of the public internet as we know it as web services would rapidly be turned into outlets for every human depravity. Even if you exclude depravities like child pornography that are currently illegal, you can look forward to every website to which users can contribute content rapidly becoming unusable except by those with strong stomachs or a porn addiction.

    No conservative worthy of the name could endorse private organizations being compelled by government to publish speech they would otherwise reject for any reason or no reason at all. Happily, the Supreme Court has put a hold on Texas and Florida’s fascistic attempts to micromanage the tech industry and sent the cases back to the lower courts for further development. Let’s hope the First Amendment wins out.

    So, you are for the First Amendment, but against Free speech.

     

     

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  10. Yarob Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    So, you are for the First Amendment, but against Free speech.

    Er, no. This is obviously not a serious question as it’s as clear as day that conservatives should be against government-compelled speech. If you want “free speech” you’re welcome to launch your own website to publicize your opinions, but requiring that Facebook, Twitter, etc. do so for you under penalty of law is contrary to the First Amendment as any fule kno.

    I can’t be bothered to instruct you further in this matter; you either understand how antithetical to freedom compelled speech is or you don’t. You apparently don’t, so I’m off. Fin.

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  11. Bob Thompson Member
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    Yarob (View Comment):

    Let’s hope the First Amendment wins out.

    •  

    And a competitive marketplace. 

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  12. MarciN Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Can’t think of a better place to put this:

    Wow. My word. That is really serious. 

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  13. The Reticulator Member
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    Red Herring (View Comment):
    Excuse me. DeSantis hasn’t been hit with the real lawfare Trump has faced. He has only faced lawsuits. Had he run, he would have gone broke after the first bimbo emerged to claim he sexually assaulted her.

    Of course not.  He would have chewed up and spit out the people who would have tried to do it.  He knows how to defend himself.  

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  14. Red Herring Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    thelonious (View Comment):

    I’m pretty late to the party but I don’t think National Review, Commentary or the Dispatch has much sway over the public. These are pretty small publications. Seems a little extreme to blame a Trump loss at their feet. Of course nobody will blame it on Trump. It’s the people’s fault for not seeing it’s in their own interests to vote for somebody they find repugnant. Let’s just blame ignorant voters or Jonah Goldberg. Don’t take any blame for nominating somebody who clearly turns off more than half the country. Being likable to a majority of voters is an important skill set for any candidate. Trump obviously doesn’t care or try to possess that trait. And this is where we are. Mad at a few pundits who wont propagandize the Great Orange One. I think you’re barking at the mailbox on this one.

    DeSantis might be more likeable, but he wouldn’t survive the lawfare etc.

    And if you don’t believe it, just ask Trump. Oh, wait a minute! DeSantis seems to have handled the lawfare quite well.

    Who to believe..who to believe?

    Excuse me. DeSantis hasn’t been hit with the real lawfare Trump has faced. He has only faced lawsuits. Had he run, he would have gone broke after the first bimbo emerged to claim he sexually assaulted her.

    Also, to whatever extent DeSantis was being sued in his official capacity, his defense cost him nothing.

    Democrats will just make something up that is personal.

    • #164
  15. Red Herring Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):
    Excuse me. DeSantis hasn’t been hit with the real lawfare Trump has faced. He has only faced lawsuits. Had he run, he would have gone broke after the first bimbo emerged to claim he sexually assaulted her.

    Of course not. He would have chewed up and spit out the people who would have tried to do it. He knows how to defend himself.

    The federal government and other government officials? lawfare..

    • #165
  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):
    Excuse me. DeSantis hasn’t been hit with the real lawfare Trump has faced. He has only faced lawsuits. Had he run, he would have gone broke after the first bimbo emerged to claim he sexually assaulted her.

    Of course not. He would have chewed up and spit out the people who would have tried to do it. He knows how to defend himself.

    Sure, sure.  With what money to pay lawyers?  When you’ve got personal lawsuits and criminal charges, you must pay lawyers.  It’s not Dana Bash attacking Trump on CNN that costs, it’s the DOJ and such.  DeSantis couldn’t “chew them up and spit them out.”

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    thelonious (View Comment):

    I’m pretty late to the party but I don’t think National Review, Commentary or the Dispatch has much sway over the public. These are pretty small publications. Seems a little extreme to blame a Trump loss at their feet. Of course nobody will blame it on Trump. It’s the people’s fault for not seeing it’s in their own interests to vote for somebody they find repugnant. Let’s just blame ignorant voters or Jonah Goldberg. Don’t take any blame for nominating somebody who clearly turns off more than half the country. Being likable to a majority of voters is an important skill set for any candidate. Trump obviously doesn’t care or try to possess that trait. And this is where we are. Mad at a few pundits who wont propagandize the Great Orange One. I think you’re barking at the mailbox on this one.

    DeSantis might be more likeable, but he wouldn’t survive the lawfare etc.

    And if you don’t believe it, just ask Trump. Oh, wait a minute! DeSantis seems to have handled the lawfare quite well.

    Who to believe..who to believe?

    Excuse me. DeSantis hasn’t been hit with the real lawfare Trump has faced. He has only faced lawsuits. Had he run, he would have gone broke after the first bimbo emerged to claim he sexually assaulted her.

    Also, to whatever extent DeSantis was being sued in his official capacity, his defense cost him nothing.

    Democrats will just make something up that is personal.

    Yes, that makes his situation more precarious.

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  18. The Reticulator Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):
    Excuse me. DeSantis hasn’t been hit with the real lawfare Trump has faced. He has only faced lawsuits. Had he run, he would have gone broke after the first bimbo emerged to claim he sexually assaulted her.

    Of course not. He would have chewed up and spit out the people who would have tried to do it. He knows how to defend himself.

    Sure, sure. With what money to pay lawyers? When you’ve got personal lawsuits and criminal charges, you must pay lawyers. It’s not Dana Bash attacking Trump on CNN that costs, it’s the DOJ and such. DeSantis couldn’t “chew them up and spit them out.”

    He can pull money out of the same place where you got the one about him not handling the lawfare. 

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):
    Excuse me. DeSantis hasn’t been hit with the real lawfare Trump has faced. He has only faced lawsuits. Had he run, he would have gone broke after the first bimbo emerged to claim he sexually assaulted her.

    Of course not. He would have chewed up and spit out the people who would have tried to do it. He knows how to defend himself.

    Sure, sure. With what money to pay lawyers? When you’ve got personal lawsuits and criminal charges, you must pay lawyers. It’s not Dana Bash attacking Trump on CNN that costs, it’s the DOJ and such. DeSantis couldn’t “chew them up and spit them out.”

    He can pull money out of the same place where you got the one about him not handling the lawfare.

     

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  20. Stad Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    To those folks who think they’re taking a principled stand by not voting for Trump:

    Is it principled to allow evil to flourish? Because if the Democrats win, you can bet we’ll be living in a deeper Hell than we are now . . .

    Well, I am really here talking about the Public Right, not John or Jane Doe Voter.

    I was gearing it more toward never-Trumpers . . .

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  21. Stad Coolidge
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    Yarob (View Comment):
    My current plan is to submit a write-in vote for my late cat, Sullivan.

    Well that’s mature thinking . . .

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  22. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    To those folks who think they’re taking a principled stand by not voting for Trump:

    Is it principled to allow evil to flourish? Because if the Democrats win, you can bet we’ll be living in a deeper Hell than we are now . . .

    Well, I am really here talking about the Public Right, not John or Jane Doe Voter.

    I was gearing it more toward never-Trumpers . . .

    Fair enough. 

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  23. Sisyphus Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Yarob (View Comment):
    My current plan is to submit a write-in vote for my late cat, Sullivan.

    Well that’s mature thinking . . .

    Been done since there was voting. There are a lot of Sullivans out there.

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  24. The Reticulator Member
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Yarob (View Comment):
    My current plan is to submit a write-in vote for my late cat, Sullivan.

    Well that’s mature thinking . . .

    Been done since there was voting. There are a lot of Sullivans out there.

    As long as Sullivan remembers to vote, too, it should be good.

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  25. Yarob Coolidge
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Yarob (View Comment):
    My current plan is to submit a write-in vote for my late cat, Sullivan.

    Well that’s mature thinking . . .

    Been done since there was voting. There are a lot of Sullivans out there.

    In 2016 I voted for Evan McMullin. Subsequent developments revealed this to have been a mistake, although one made by many never-Trumpers. In 2020 I believe I wrote in my own name, but perhaps due to the meth, this memory is hazy. Voting for Sullivan will certainly demonstrate a more mature approach to exercising my civic responsibilities than either of those choices.

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  26. kedavis Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Yarob (View Comment):
    My current plan is to submit a write-in vote for my late cat, Sullivan.

    Well that’s mature thinking . . .

    Been done since there was voting. There are a lot of Sullivans out there.

    As long as Sullivan remembers to vote, too, it should be good.

    Sullivan votes Democrat, now.

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