A Nerd and a Friday Night’s Existential Crisis

 
Monochrome head-and-left-shoulder photo portrait of 50-year-old Lewis

Scan of photograph by Arthur Strong, 1947

This original version of this post was aired in 2012 at the blog ThinkingThroughChristianity.com, which sadly is no more.

Some years ago I was at Dallas Baptist University taking a class with Dr. William E. Bell. He’s second from the left at the picture here. I learned about the penal substitutionary atonement, and happened to learn that, at least according to Dr. Bell, C. S. Lewis denied the doctrine.

I considered Lewis to be the great Christian thinker that he is. I grew up on Lewis: originally the Narnia books and movies (the old BBC ones, with the bad special effects and the awesome portrayals of the White Witch and Puddleglum), then Screwtape Letters in middle school and Mere Christianity in high school. My family has been reading Lewis for several generations.

My reverence for Dr. Bell was no less. I saw him as the bulwark of orthodoxy and serious biblical teaching that he was.

So my college hero was telling me that my childhood hero was a heretic whose salvation was uncertain as a result of his bad doctrine. This was a big deal. We’re talking about a genuine existential crisis here (though I admit I’ve had worse crises in my time).

So, of course, I went to the library and wrote a paper. What else is a little nerd with an existential crisis supposed to do on a Friday night?

I still have the paper. It’s about 2,500 words. (It’s very embarrassing that the Introduction does not clearly state the thesis.) In it, I argued for three points.

  1. In Mere Christianity Lewis doesn’t deny the penal substitutionary atonement. He just admits that the modern mind has trouble understanding the idea, and then suggests an understanding of the atonement that makes sense to the modern mind: the theory that Jesus paid our debts on the cross. (Looking at the relevant passage later, I have to admit I may have misread it; I think he really does reject the penal substitutionary atonement there; it just wasn’t his main point.)
  2. The theory that Jesus paid our debts on the cross is an orthodox theory. Here I cited a passage in the New Testament.  (Interestingly, it wasn’t 1 Timothy 2:5-6, but 1 John 1:9 — it turns out the Greek word for “forgive” there can refer to forgiving a debt, or at least that’s what the Greek lexicon I cited said.) I also alluded to the old hymn that says of Jesus, “He paid a debt he did not owe / I owed a debt I could not pay / I needed someone to wash my sins away.”
  3. In The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, Lewis illustrates the penal substitutionary view of the atonement in Aslan’s death in place of Edmond.

I shared my paper with Dr. Bell, who read it more than once. He thought it was a valiant effort to defend Lewis, but he wasn’t convinced.

Your Welcome Maui GIFs | TenorNow up to this point I still thought Lewis did not reject the penal substitutionary atonement, but Bell shared with me a story that finally convinced me: that Lewis had personally told J. I. Packer that he did not accept the penal substitutionary atonement. Packer had personally passed this information on to Bell, who now passed it on to me. I now pass it on to you.  (You’re welcome.)

The third point from my paper is puzzling in light of this, but I think it may yet be correct. Perhaps in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe Lewis wrote a better book than even he intended, and managed to illustrate an extra view of the atonement. (He was really going for the Christus Victor view, and did it well.)

A few quick observations in favor of Lewis would be in order.

First, Lewis is still the man. This may suggest a poor memory on my part (or a need to do some careful rereading!), but I can only think of about three sentences in all of the fifteen or so books I’ve read by Lewis with which I disagree. It is largely because of the occasional problem like this (and because he’s often a much better philosopher than a biblical theologian) that I recommend Christians read N. T. Wright and John Stott alongside Lewis. But Lewis is irreplaceable. A solid grounding in ten or twenty of his little books will do any Christian good, and, I might add, will probably do more good than thirty or forty large books in philosophy and theology.

Second, Todd Kappelman, another of my favorite undergrad teachers, wrote this on the need to read Lewis. I agree.

Third, this sort of allegation that C. S. Lewis is a heretic and the author of “demonic fantasies” is no doubt well-intentioned; but it is incorrect, impolite, unhelpful, poorly researched, and hardly worth the time it took to write this sentence.

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  1. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Postmodern Hoplite (View Comment):

    I am enjoying the discussion here, and I recommend the OP for promotion to the Main Feed.

    I was raised Southern Baptist and self-identified as such up until six years ago. Now I am a professed Anglican (ACNA, High Church, “smells-and-bells,” etc.); this came about in no small degree to my observation that, if it was good enough for C.S. Lewis, it was good enough for me.

    (Of course, there’s a boat-load more to it than that; my Roman Catholic friends like to say that I’m “one good pope away from converting.” Perhaps: but not today…)

    I’m a Lutheran, which has been described as “my Catholic friends think I’m a Baptist and my Baptist friends think I’m a Catholic.”

    My Comparative Religions prof used to say that Lutherans believe Moses came down the mountain with the Ten Suggestions.

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  2. The Reticulator Member
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    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Postmodern Hoplite (View Comment):

    I am enjoying the discussion here, and I recommend the OP for promotion to the Main Feed.

    I was raised Southern Baptist and self-identified as such up until six years ago. Now I am a professed Anglican (ACNA, High Church, “smells-and-bells,” etc.); this came about in no small degree to my observation that, if it was good enough for C.S. Lewis, it was good enough for me.

    (Of course, there’s a boat-load more to it than that; my Roman Catholic friends like to say that I’m “one good pope away from converting.” Perhaps: but not today…)

    I’m a Lutheran, which has been described as “my Catholic friends think I’m a Baptist and my Baptist friends think I’m a Catholic.”

    My Comparative Religions prof used to say that Lutherans believe Moses came down the mountain with the Ten Suggestions.

    Twenty-one years ago I had occasion to attend a Baptist church service for the baptism of two boys who had been in my Lutheran confirmation class (which I taught for a few years in the absence of a pastor).  I sat next to the Lutheran great-grandmother who had induced me to invite the boys to my class in the first place. That place happened to be front and center in the church.  When I perceived that the sermon was being directed at me as a Lutheran, I sat up straighter.  

    It was amusing to hear the Baptist preacher (if you listened between the lines) accuse the Lutherans of believing what Lutherans think the Baptists believe.   

    I think the pastor would have liked to continue the discussion with me after the service was over.  It could have been interesting and enjoyable, as he was genial and good humored about all of it.  But I didn’t think that was the proper occasion.

    There is more to the whole story, but that’s enough for here.

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  3. Percival Thatcher
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    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Postmodern Hoplite (View Comment):

    I am enjoying the discussion here, and I recommend the OP for promotion to the Main Feed.

    I was raised Southern Baptist and self-identified as such up until six years ago. Now I am a professed Anglican (ACNA, High Church, “smells-and-bells,” etc.); this came about in no small degree to my observation that, if it was good enough for C.S. Lewis, it was good enough for me.

    (Of course, there’s a boat-load more to it than that; my Roman Catholic friends like to say that I’m “one good pope away from converting.” Perhaps: but not today…)

    I’m a Lutheran, which has been described as “my Catholic friends think I’m a Baptist and my Baptist friends think I’m a Catholic.”

    My Comparative Religions prof used to say that Lutherans believe Moses came down the mountain with the Ten Suggestions.

    Nah. That’s the Episcopalians.

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  4. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Okay, I’m all confused.

    1. I need atonement.
    2. I received atonement.
    3. If not penal substitutionary atonement, then what atonement is it, and
    4. What difference does it make?

    Not at all a bad take on the situation.

    Ricky Gervais has even a more scandalous approach – he suggests that since Christ has died for all our sins, we should all do our part and sin some more!

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  5. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Barfly (View Comment):

    Isn’t a fundamentalist one who accepts the literal truth of the holy writ, in this case the Bible?

    That’s one definition. Now if we can clarify what “literal” means, maybe we can say whether I’m a fundamentalist. Only ever heard of one person who thought the rivers in the Holy Land had milk and honey instead of water.

    My observation is that a lot of fundamentalists actually worship their minister, rather than Jesus.

    Which is worrying, because  one entire point of the reformation was to ditch the idea of salivating over popes, bishops, cardinals and priests. And to get back to the basics, which would be the words of Jesus as found in the New Testament.

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  6. Saint Augustine Member
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Okay, I’m all confused.

    1. I need atonement.
    2. I received atonement.
    3. If not penal substitutionary atonement, then what atonement is it, and
    4. What difference does it make?

    Not at all a bad take on the situation.

    Ricky Gervais has even a more scandalous approach – he suggests that since Christ has died for all our sins, we should all do our part and sin some more!

    And he gets maybe a B- on humor there. But this is easily refuted theologically.

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  7. Percival Thatcher
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Okay, I’m all confused.

    1. I need atonement.
    2. I received atonement.
    3. If not penal substitutionary atonement, then what atonement is it, and
    4. What difference does it make?

    Not at all a bad take on the situation.

    Ricky Gervais has even a more scandalous approach – he suggests that since Christ has died for all our sins, we should all do our part and sin some more!

    And he gets maybe a B- on humor there. But this is easily refuted theologically.

    Romans 6. If Ricky were of a Zen frame of mind, let him finish reading, then give him the traditional dope-slap. 👋 

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  8. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Okay, I’m all confused.

    1. I need atonement.
    2. I received atonement.
    3. If not penal substitutionary atonement, then what atonement is it, and
    4. What difference does it make?

    Not at all a bad take on the situation.

    Ricky Gervais has even a more scandalous approach – he suggests that since Christ has died for all our sins, we should all do our part and sin some more!

    And he gets maybe a B- on humor there. But this is easily refuted theologically.

    I imagine any such refutation would get an even lower grade on humor. (Unless if handled by someone who happened to be  a combination of you and Mark Twain.)

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  9. Saint Augustine Member
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Okay, I’m all confused.

    1. I need atonement.
    2. I received atonement.
    3. If not penal substitutionary atonement, then what atonement is it, and
    4. What difference does it make?

    Not at all a bad take on the situation.

    Ricky Gervais has even a more scandalous approach – he suggests that since Christ has died for all our sins, we should all do our part and sin some more!

    And he gets maybe a B- on humor there. But this is easily refuted theologically.

    I imagine any such refutation would get an even lower grade on humor. (Unless if handled by someone who happened to be a combination of you and Mark Twain.)

    B- is pretty good. I doing theology will usually get a D or less on humor.

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