One Small Step

 

Last night, in a marathon board meeting in which many things were discussed, my small school district passed a resolution to direct our superintendent to address the lack of fairness in high school sporting competitions.  Recently a biological male won a women’s state competition in running. This impacted young women within our community, and, rightly, parents were livid.

Statewide competitions are organized and governed by the WIAA (Washington Interscholastic Activities Association).  The WIAA is a quasi-government organization subject to its own rules and bylaws as well as state and federal law.  The process to address this within WIAA is to propose an amendment to those bylaws.  There is a lot of energy across the state to address the issue.  Even some folks on the left don’t agree that this should be allowed, given the unfair advantage a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

It’s one small step, and I hope we’ll see more of this across the country.

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  1. Not a Banana Republican Inactive
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    That is good news.  At the same time, Big Tech is censoring anyone who disagrees.

    I suggest going to We Stand Up for Women’s Sports | XX-XY Athletics and purchasing some gear.

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  2. Terry Mott Member
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    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

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  3. EODmom Coolidge
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    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

    Or have the strength to publicly remove their girl children from competition against boys and denounce the sponsors. Walk away. From government schools and government sports. Don’t give your children to people who mean them harm. 

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  4. Chuck Coolidge
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    EODmom (View Comment):

    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

    Or have the strength to publicly remove their girl children from competition against boys and denounce the sponsors. Walk away. From government schools and government sports. Don’t give your children to people who mean them harm.

    Wasn’t women’s’ participation in sports primarily a consequence of Title 9?  When did women originally actively engage in Olympics? How much of a catastrophe would it be if men and women could compete on an equal basis?

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  5. EODmom Coolidge
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    Chuck (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

    Or have the strength to publicly remove their girl children from competition against boys and denounce the sponsors. Walk away. From government schools and government sports. Don’t give your children to people who mean them harm.

    Wasn’t women’s participation in sports primarily a consequence of Title 9? When did women originally actively engage in Olympics? How much of a catastrophe would it be if men and women could compete on an equal basis?

    Women have competed in the modern Olympics since 1900, well before Title IX. Women have been athletic for a much longer time than that of course. However, as women and men have distinctly different biological makeup, direct athletic competition isn’t meaningful and more to the point can be dangerous to women in many sports. I’m not sure what point is proven when a man demonstrates that he can run a mile faster than a woman or serves a tennis ball faster and harder than the female opponent.  It’s not exactly a secret the role that testosterone plays in male physiology. So why would a man want to beat a female competitor? 

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  6. Sisyphus Member
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    EODmom (View Comment):

    Chuck (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

    Or have the strength to publicly remove their girl children from competition against boys and denounce the sponsors. Walk away. From government schools and government sports. Don’t give your children to people who mean them harm.

    Wasn’t women’s participation in sports primarily a consequence of Title 9? When did women originally actively engage in Olympics? How much of a catastrophe would it be if men and women could compete on an equal basis?

    Women have competed in the modern Olympics since 1900, well before Title IX. Women have been athletic for a much longer time than that of course. However, as women and men have distinctly different biological makeup, direct athletic competition isn’t meaningful and more to the point can be dangerous to women in many sports. I’m not sure what point is proven when a man demonstrates that he can run a mile faster than a woman or serves a tennis ball faster and harder than the female opponent. It’s not exactly a secret the role that testosterone plays in male physiology. So why would a man want to beat a female competitor?

    Bent is bent. Haters gotta hate. 

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    EODmom (View Comment):

    Chuck (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

    Or have the strength to publicly remove their girl children from competition against boys and denounce the sponsors. Walk away. From government schools and government sports. Don’t give your children to people who mean them harm.

    Wasn’t women’s participation in sports primarily a consequence of Title 9? When did women originally actively engage in Olympics? How much of a catastrophe would it be if men and women could compete on an equal basis?

    Women have competed in the modern Olympics since 1900, well before Title IX. Women have been athletic for a much longer time than that of course. However, as women and men have distinctly different biological makeup, direct athletic competition isn’t meaningful and more to the point can be dangerous to women in many sports. I’m not sure what point is proven when a man demonstrates that he can run a mile faster than a woman or serves a tennis ball faster and harder than the female opponent. It’s not exactly a secret the role that testosterone plays in male physiology. So why would a man want to beat a female competitor?

    Apparently, mostly because they can’t beat many men, it seems.

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  8. EODmom Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Chuck (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

    Or have the strength to publicly remove their girl children from competition against boys and denounce the sponsors. Walk away. From government schools and government sports. Don’t give your children to people who mean them harm.

    Wasn’t women’s participation in sports primarily a consequence of Title 9? When did women originally actively engage in Olympics? How much of a catastrophe would it be if men and women could compete on an equal basis?

    Women have competed in the modern Olympics since 1900, well before Title IX. Women have been athletic for a much longer time than that of course. However, as women and men have distinctly different biological makeup, direct athletic competition isn’t meaningful and more to the point can be dangerous to women in many sports. I’m not sure what point is proven when a man demonstrates that he can run a mile faster than a woman or serves a tennis ball faster and harder than the female opponent. It’s not exactly a secret the role that testosterone plays in male physiology. So why would a man want to beat a female competitor?

    Apparently, mostly because they can’t beat many men, it seems.

    There you go. And there are adults who are willing to abuse boy children by continuing their delusions that they are girls. 

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  9. kedavis Coolidge
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    EODmom (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Chuck (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

    Or have the strength to publicly remove their girl children from competition against boys and denounce the sponsors. Walk away. From government schools and government sports. Don’t give your children to people who mean them harm.

    Wasn’t women’s participation in sports primarily a consequence of Title 9? When did women originally actively engage in Olympics? How much of a catastrophe would it be if men and women could compete on an equal basis?

    Women have competed in the modern Olympics since 1900, well before Title IX. Women have been athletic for a much longer time than that of course. However, as women and men have distinctly different biological makeup, direct athletic competition isn’t meaningful and more to the point can be dangerous to women in many sports. I’m not sure what point is proven when a man demonstrates that he can run a mile faster than a woman or serves a tennis ball faster and harder than the female opponent. It’s not exactly a secret the role that testosterone plays in male physiology. So why would a man want to beat a female competitor?

    Apparently, mostly because they can’t beat many men, it seems.

    There you go. And there are adults who are willing to abuse boy children by continuing their delusions that they are girls.

    Yes, but I don’t believe those such as “Lia” Thomas actually believe they are women.  They’re just gaming a new system.

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  10. EODmom Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Chuck (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

    Or have the strength to publicly remove their girl children from competition against boys and denounce the sponsors. Walk away. From government schools and government sports. Don’t give your children to people who mean them harm.

    Wasn’t women’s participation in sports primarily a consequence of Title 9? When did women originally actively engage in Olympics? How much of a catastrophe would it be if men and women could compete on an equal basis?

    Women have competed in the modern Olympics since 1900, well before Title IX. Women have been athletic for a much longer time than that of course. However, as women and men have distinctly different biological makeup, direct athletic competition isn’t meaningful and more to the point can be dangerous to women in many sports. I’m not sure what point is proven when a man demonstrates that he can run a mile faster than a woman or serves a tennis ball faster and harder than the female opponent. It’s not exactly a secret the role that testosterone plays in male physiology. So why would a man want to beat a female competitor?

    Apparently, mostly because they can’t beat many men, it seems.

    There you go. And there are adults who are willing to abuse boy children by continuing their delusions that they are girls.

    Yes, but I don’t believe those such as “Lia” Thomas actually believe they are women. They’re just gaming a new system.

    He was late to the game but happy to play by new rules. (Whatever will his life be from now on? Will he go back to being a guy? Will he ever hold a job?)  I’m really disturbed by the little boys being groomed and  used and manipulated by the adults in their life – it seems mostly their mothers – for their own pleasure. It’s hideous. 

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  11. Spin Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Yes, but I don’t believe those such as “Lia” Thomas actually believe they are women.  They’re just gaming a new system.

    I just finished a book called Transgender to Transformed.  It’s written by a woman who believed from a young age that she “should have been” a boy, and ultimately came to believe that she actually was a man.  She lived as a man for nearly a decade, and believed herself to be a man.  The Lord found her and pulled her out of that mindset.  In her case it was truly emotional and psychological trauma as well as spiritual.  The point is, she really believed she was a man.

    I don’t know what Lia Thomas actually believes.  But don’t be too quick to assume.  These folks need our prayers and our help.  They don’t need affirmative care, aka lies, and they also don’t need judgement and condemnation.  They need to hear the truth in love and respect.  

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  12. Chuck Coolidge
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    Any opinions on Rosario Butterfield?

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  13. kedavis Coolidge
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    EODmom (View Comment):

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    EODmom (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Chuck (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

    Or have the strength to publicly remove their girl children from competition against boys and denounce the sponsors. Walk away. From government schools and government sports. Don’t give your children to people who mean them harm.

    Wasn’t women’s participation in sports primarily a consequence of Title 9? When did women originally actively engage in Olympics? How much of a catastrophe would it be if men and women could compete on an equal basis?

    Women have competed in the modern Olympics since 1900, well before Title IX. Women have been athletic for a much longer time than that of course. However, as women and men have distinctly different biological makeup, direct athletic competition isn’t meaningful and more to the point can be dangerous to women in many sports. I’m not sure what point is proven when a man demonstrates that he can run a mile faster than a woman or serves a tennis ball faster and harder than the female opponent. It’s not exactly a secret the role that testosterone plays in male physiology. So why would a man want to beat a female competitor?

    Apparently, mostly because they can’t beat many men, it seems.

    There you go. And there are adults who are willing to abuse boy children by continuing their delusions that they are girls.

    Yes, but I don’t believe those such as “Lia” Thomas actually believe they are women. They’re just gaming a new system.

    He was late to the game but happy to play by new rules. (Whatever will his life be from now on? Will he go back to being a guy? Will he ever hold a job?) I’m really disturbed by the little boys being groomed and used and manipulated by the adults in their life – it seems mostly their mothers – for their own pleasure. It’s hideous.

    From what I’ve heard, “Lia” has a girlfriend, I wonder what she thinks of his cheating against women?

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    EODmom (View Comment):

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    EODmom (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Chuck (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

    Or have the strength to publicly remove their girl children from competition against boys and denounce the sponsors. Walk away. From government schools and government sports. Don’t give your children to people who mean them harm.

    Wasn’t women’s participation in sports primarily a consequence of Title 9? When did women originally actively engage in Olympics? How much of a catastrophe would it be if men and women could compete on an equal basis?

    Women have competed in the modern Olympics since 1900, well before Title IX. Women have been athletic for a much longer time than that of course. However, as women and men have distinctly different biological makeup, direct athletic competition isn’t meaningful and more to the point can be dangerous to women in many sports. I’m not sure what point is proven when a man demonstrates that he can run a mile faster than a woman or serves a tennis ball faster and harder than the female opponent. It’s not exactly a secret the role that testosterone plays in male physiology. So why would a man want to beat a female competitor?

    Apparently, mostly because they can’t beat many men, it seems.

    There you go. And there are adults who are willing to abuse boy children by continuing their delusions that they are girls.

    Yes, but I don’t believe those such as “Lia” Thomas actually believe they are women. They’re just gaming a new system.

    He was late to the game but happy to play by new rules. (Whatever will his life be from now on? Will he go back to being a guy? Will he ever hold a job?) I’m really disturbed by the little boys being groomed and used and manipulated by the adults in their life – it seems mostly their mothers – for their own pleasure. It’s hideous.

    Oh, and:

     

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  15. kedavis Coolidge
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    Spin (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Yes, but I don’t believe those such as “Lia” Thomas actually believe they are women. They’re just gaming a new system.

    I just finished a book called Transgender to Transformed. It’s written by a woman who believed from a young age that she “should have been” a boy, and ultimately came to believe that she actually was a man. She lived as a man for nearly a decade, and believed herself to be a man. The Lord found her and pulled her out of that mindset. In her case it was truly emotional and psychological trauma as well as spiritual. The point is, she really believed she was a man.

    I don’t know what Lia Thomas actually believes. But don’t be too quick to assume. These folks need our prayers and our help. They don’t need affirmative care, aka lies, and they also don’t need judgement and condemnation. They need to hear the truth in love and respect.

    I think it’s one thing to just do that in your personal life, versus using that to beat women in sports.

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  16. Steven Seward Member
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    Spin (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Yes, but I don’t believe those such as “Lia” Thomas actually believe they are women. They’re just gaming a new system.

    I just finished a book called Transgender to Transformed. It’s written by a woman who believed from a young age that she “should have been” a boy, and ultimately came to believe that she actually was a man. She lived as a man for nearly a decade, and believed herself to be a man. The Lord found her and pulled her out of that mindset. In her case it was truly emotional and psychological trauma as well as spiritual. The point is, she really believed she was a man.

    I don’t know what Lia Thomas actually believes. But don’t be too quick to assume. These folks need our prayers and our help. They don’t need affirmative care, aka lies, and they also don’t need judgement and condemnation. They need to hear the truth in love and respect.

    I don’t have respect for someone who so openly flaunts an unfair advantage.  We used to call that cheating.  I don’t care if they think they are a woman or a martian.  It is not something worthy of respect, only derision.

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    kedavis (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Chuck (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

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    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

    Or have the strength to publicly remove their girl children from competition against boys and denounce the sponsors. Walk away. From government schools and government sports. Don’t give your children to people who mean them harm.

    Wasn’t women’s participation in sports primarily a consequence of Title 9? When did women originally actively engage in Olympics? How much of a catastrophe would it be if men and women could compete on an equal basis?

    Women have competed in the modern Olympics since 1900, well before Title IX. Women have been athletic for a much longer time than that of course. However, as women and men have distinctly different biological makeup, direct athletic competition isn’t meaningful and more to the point can be dangerous to women in many sports. I’m not sure what point is proven when a man demonstrates that he can run a mile faster than a woman or serves a tennis ball faster and harder than the female opponent. It’s not exactly a secret the role that testosterone plays in male physiology. So why would a man want to beat a female competitor?

    Apparently, mostly because they can’t beat many men, it seems.

    You can not only be a champion but further you’ll be hailed as a trailblazer, the “first openly-transgender athlete” to blah blah blah.  You get to role-play a modern day Jackie Robinson smashing barriers and overcoming bigotry.

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Yes, but I don’t believe those such as “Lia” Thomas actually believe they are women. They’re just gaming a new system.

    I just finished a book called Transgender to Transformed. It’s written by a woman who believed from a young age that she “should have been” a boy, and ultimately came to believe that she actually was a man. She lived as a man for nearly a decade, and believed herself to be a man. The Lord found her and pulled her out of that mindset. In her case it was truly emotional and psychological trauma as well as spiritual. The point is, she really believed she was a man.

    I don’t know what Lia Thomas actually believes. But don’t be too quick to assume. These folks need our prayers and our help. They don’t need affirmative care, aka lies, and they also don’t need judgement and condemnation. They need to hear the truth in love and respect.

    I don’t have respect for someone who so openly flaunts an unfair advantage. We used to call that cheating. I don’t care if they think they are a woman or a martian. It is not something worthy of respect, only derision.

     

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    Chuck (View Comment):

    Any opinions on Rosario Butterfield?

    Never heard of her, as near as I can recall, but I just read her bio, and she seems to have a great story of redemption.  

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    Spin (View Comment):

    Chuck (View Comment):

    Any opinions on Rosario Butterfield?

    Never heard of her, as near as I can recall, but I just read her bio, and she seems to have a great story of redemption.

    Her story is amazing. 

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  21. Not a Banana Republican Inactive
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    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

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    Spin:

    Even the folks on the left don’t agree with the unfair advantage that a biological boy has when competing in girls’ sports.

    Too bad they’ll never admit, even to themselves, that their side’s basic philosophy leads inevitably to this result.

    Or have the strength to publicly remove their girl children from competition against boys and denounce the sponsors. Walk away. From government schools and government sports. Don’t give your children to people who mean them harm.

    Wasn’t women’s participation in sports primarily a consequence of Title 9? When did women originally actively engage in Olympics? How much of a catastrophe would it be if men and women could compete on an equal basis?

    Women have competed in the modern Olympics since 1900, well before Title IX. Women have been athletic for a much longer time than that of course. However, as women and men have distinctly different biological makeup, direct athletic competition isn’t meaningful and more to the point can be dangerous to women in many sports. I’m not sure what point is proven when a man demonstrates that he can run a mile faster than a woman or serves a tennis ball faster and harder than the female opponent. It’s not exactly a secret the role that testosterone plays in male physiology. So why would a man want to beat a female competitor?

    Apparently, mostly because they can’t beat many men, it seems.

    You can not only be a champion but further you’ll be hailed as a trailblazer, the “first openly-transgender athlete” to blah blah blah. You get to role-play a modern day Jackie Robinson smashing barriers and overcoming bigotry.

    Hey now, that about those East Germans in the 70s?

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  22. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
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    This is one of those issue about which I am fanatic. Men need to stay out of women’s sports! The idiocy of the Biden Administration with its collection of freaks and left, in general, needs to be shut down permanently. A tiny minority of mentally defective people do not get to tell the rest of us what is right and what is wrong. I have no problem with every person living their life as they choose or as they think they are meant to. However, I do not believe that they have the right to insist that the rest of us acknowledge whatever mythos they choose to believe particularly when it comes to what pronouns we use for them or whether they have the right to choose the bathroom and dressing room facilities they think are appropriate for them as opposed to what their biology and long held custom dictates. 

     

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    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    This is one of those issue about which I am fanatic. Men need to stay out of women’s sports! The idiocy of the Biden Administration with its collection of freaks and left, in general, needs to be shut down permanently. A tiny minority of mentally defective people do not get to tell the rest of us what is right and what is wrong. I have no problem with every person living their life as they choose or as they think they are meant to. However, I do not believe that they have the right to insist that the rest of us acknowledge whatever mythos they choose to believe particularly when it comes to what pronouns we use for them or whether they have the right to choose the bathroom and dressing room facilities they think are appropriate for them as opposed to what their biology and long held custom dictates.

     

    Exactly right.  They’ve chosen to shove people to the side in order to get what they want, and we cater to them.  This is largely because of “affirmative care”.  The notion that if we just go along with them, it’ll help them.  This is absolute nonsense, and Europe has started to figure that out.  It’s actually the opposite of helpful.  

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  24. Sandy Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Yes, but I don’t believe those such as “Lia” Thomas actually believe they are women. They’re just gaming a new system.

    I just finished a book called Transgender to Transformed. It’s written by a woman who believed from a young age that she “should have been” a boy, and ultimately came to believe that she actually was a man. She lived as a man for nearly a decade, and believed herself to be a man. The Lord found her and pulled her out of that mindset. In her case it was truly emotional and psychological trauma as well as spiritual. The point is, she really believed she was a man.

    I don’t know what Lia Thomas actually believes. But don’t be too quick to assume. These folks need our prayers and our help. They don’t need affirmative care, aka lies, and they also don’t need judgement and condemnation. They need to hear the truth in love and respect.

    I don’t have respect for someone who so openly flaunts an unfair advantage. We used to call that cheating. I don’t care if they think they are a woman or a martian. It is not something worthy of respect, only derision.

    Spin (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Yes, but I don’t believe those such as “Lia” Thomas actually believe they are women. They’re just gaming a new system.

    I just finished a book called Transgender to Transformed. It’s written by a woman who believed from a young age that she “should have been” a boy, and ultimately came to believe that she actually was a man. She lived as a man for nearly a decade, and believed herself to be a man. The Lord found her and pulled her out of that mindset. In her case it was truly emotional and psychological trauma as well as spiritual. The point is, she really believed she was a man.

    I don’t know what Lia Thomas actually believes. But don’t be too quick to assume. These folks need our prayers and our help. They don’t need affirmative care, aka lies, and they also don’t need judgement and condemnation. They need to hear the truth in love and respect.

    Neither do I have any knowledge of Lia Thomas’s heart, but his actions absolutely need to be condemned.  He is wrong, and that needs to be made clear.  Doubtless he also needs prayers and other help, but one need not exclude the other.  

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    Sandy (View Comment):
    Neither do I have any knowledge of Lia Thomas’s heart, but his actions absolutely need to be condemned.  He is wrong, and that needs to be made clear.  Doubtless he also needs prayers and other help, but one need not exclude the other.  

    But you’ve changed the argument a bit here.  I was responding to the idea that we somehow know Thomas’ motivation.  We don’t.  It might be useful for us to say “He doesn’t really think he’s a woman.”  But we don’t actually know that’s what he thinks.  It might well be that he’s just gaming the system for some sordid reason.  Or maybe he actually suffers from gender dysphoria brought on my who knows what trauma, and encourage by an anti-family leftist agenda.  If that’s true, he’s a victim as well as a perpetrator.  

    Don’t mistake me:  I’m not suggesting we ignore his actions.  I’m simply suggesting that we not make assumptions that fit our own bias and make it easier for us to argue our point.  

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  26. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
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    Neither do I have any knowledge of Lia Thomas’s heart, but his actions absolutely need to be condemned. He is wrong, and that needs to be made clear. Doubtless he also needs prayers and other help, but one need not exclude the other.

    But you’ve changed the argument a bit here. I was responding to the idea that we somehow know Thomas’ motivation. We don’t. It might be useful for us to say “He doesn’t really think he’s a woman.” But we don’t actually know that’s what he thinks. It might well be that he’s just gaming the system for some sordid reason. Or maybe he actually suffers from gender dysphoria brought on my who knows what trauma, and encourage by an anti-family leftist agenda. If that’s true, he’s a victim as well as a perpetrator.

    Don’t mistake me: I’m not suggesting we ignore his actions. I’m simply suggesting that we not make assumptions that fit our own bias and make it easier for us to argue our point.

    Apparently he hasn’t had the Rush-named lopitoffamy, so the evidence that he doesn’t really think he’s a woman is right there.  He also apparently has a girlfriend, and they are not doing… lesbian things.

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  27. Sisyphus Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Sandy (View Comment):
    Neither do I have any knowledge of Lia Thomas’s heart, but his actions absolutely need to be condemned. He is wrong, and that needs to be made clear. Doubtless he also needs prayers and other help, but one need not exclude the other.

    But you’ve changed the argument a bit here. I was responding to the idea that we somehow know Thomas’ motivation. We don’t. It might be useful for us to say “He doesn’t really think he’s a woman.” But we don’t actually know that’s what he thinks. It might well be that he’s just gaming the system for some sordid reason. Or maybe he actually suffers from gender dysphoria brought on my who knows what trauma, and encourage by an anti-family leftist agenda. If that’s true, he’s a victim as well as a perpetrator.

    Don’t mistake me: I’m not suggesting we ignore his actions. I’m simply suggesting that we not make assumptions that fit our own bias and make it easier for us to argue our point.

    Apparently he hasn’t had the Rush-named lopitoffamy, so the evidence that he doesn’t really think he’s a woman is right there. He also apparently has a girlfriend, and they are not doing… lesbian things.

    Your command of the intimate details of his most private activities is disturbing.

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  28. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Sandy (View Comment):
    Neither do I have any knowledge of Lia Thomas’s heart, but his actions absolutely need to be condemned. He is wrong, and that needs to be made clear. Doubtless he also needs prayers and other help, but one need not exclude the other.

    But you’ve changed the argument a bit here. I was responding to the idea that we somehow know Thomas’ motivation. We don’t. It might be useful for us to say “He doesn’t really think he’s a woman.” But we don’t actually know that’s what he thinks. It might well be that he’s just gaming the system for some sordid reason. Or maybe he actually suffers from gender dysphoria brought on my who knows what trauma, and encourage by an anti-family leftist agenda. If that’s true, he’s a victim as well as a perpetrator.

    Don’t mistake me: I’m not suggesting we ignore his actions. I’m simply suggesting that we not make assumptions that fit our own bias and make it easier for us to argue our point.

    Apparently he hasn’t had the Rush-named lopitoffamy, so the evidence that he doesn’t really think he’s a woman is right there. He also apparently has a girlfriend, and they are not doing… lesbian things.

    Your command of the intimate details of his most private activities is disturbing.

    All you have to do is follow Riley Gaines.  She knows.

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  29. Sisyphus Member
    Sisyphus
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Sandy (View Comment):
    Neither do I have any knowledge of Lia Thomas’s heart, but his actions absolutely need to be condemned. He is wrong, and that needs to be made clear. Doubtless he also needs prayers and other help, but one need not exclude the other.

    But you’ve changed the argument a bit here. I was responding to the idea that we somehow know Thomas’ motivation. We don’t. It might be useful for us to say “He doesn’t really think he’s a woman.” But we don’t actually know that’s what he thinks. It might well be that he’s just gaming the system for some sordid reason. Or maybe he actually suffers from gender dysphoria brought on my who knows what trauma, and encourage by an anti-family leftist agenda. If that’s true, he’s a victim as well as a perpetrator.

    Don’t mistake me: I’m not suggesting we ignore his actions. I’m simply suggesting that we not make assumptions that fit our own bias and make it easier for us to argue our point.

    Apparently he hasn’t had the Rush-named lopitoffamy, so the evidence that he doesn’t really think he’s a woman is right there. He also apparently has a girlfriend, and they are not doing… lesbian things.

    Your command of the intimate details of his most private activities is disturbing.

    All you have to do is follow Riley Gaines. She knows.

    Quite alright, the sacrifice would be too great.

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  30. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Sandy (View Comment):
    Neither do I have any knowledge of Lia Thomas’s heart, but his actions absolutely need to be condemned. He is wrong, and that needs to be made clear. Doubtless he also needs prayers and other help, but one need not exclude the other.

    But you’ve changed the argument a bit here. I was responding to the idea that we somehow know Thomas’ motivation. We don’t. It might be useful for us to say “He doesn’t really think he’s a woman.” But we don’t actually know that’s what he thinks. It might well be that he’s just gaming the system for some sordid reason. Or maybe he actually suffers from gender dysphoria brought on my who knows what trauma, and encourage by an anti-family leftist agenda. If that’s true, he’s a victim as well as a perpetrator.

    Don’t mistake me: I’m not suggesting we ignore his actions. I’m simply suggesting that we not make assumptions that fit our own bias and make it easier for us to argue our point.

    Apparently he hasn’t had the Rush-named lopitoffamy, so the evidence that he doesn’t really think he’s a woman is right there. He also apparently has a girlfriend, and they are not doing… lesbian things.

    Your command of the intimate details of his most private activities is disturbing.

    All you have to do is follow Riley Gaines. She knows.

    Quite alright, the sacrifice would be too great.

    Of course you’re welcome to remain ignorant, but it’s not MY fault.

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