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“Do Gazans Support Hamas?” is the wrong question
The more pertinent question is:
Where are the Gazans who loudly CONDEMN Hamas?
I’ve not heard from them. Hamas is in hiding, so where are the mobs in the streets of Gaza expressing their disgust and revulsion with the savagery of the rapists and murderers of Hamas? Where are the Gazans welcoming the IDF as the force that will free them from these human animals?
Hamas isn’t just some angry militant group in Gaza. Hamas is the government of Gaza. The people of Gaza are not innocent bystanders in this tragedy. They’re the citizens who knowingly chose as their government a group committed to genocide. Merely not supporting Hamas isn’t enough: Gazans must condemn and reject the monsters they put in power.
People of Gaza: The savages you put in power raped, murdered, kidnapped, and continue to torture the women and children they hold hostage.
Your silence is a disgrace.
Published in Terrorism
Since Hamas does not value the life of their civilians, they’ll simply gun them down if they speak out. Simple. (I suspect your question wasn’t a serious one, Hank.)
I tried to do a little research on the matter. Apparently this one article in the Times of Israel explains it quite well. Now The Times of Israel is an obviously biased but that doesn’t really matter because the article just transcribed information from the a Palestinian Polling organization called the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR).
It seems like that the PCPSR is the only organization that does serious polling in Palestine. It also seems like it is funded by the European Union and the Ford Foundation. If anyone knows how to verify where the money comes from, please inform me. Anyways the organization seems legit to me. Here is a section of the article.
The article later recounts how most people watch Al-Jazeera and Al-Jazeera doesn’t cover all the rape and baby killing on October 7th with the exception of their English website.
Personally, I agree with Michael Milshtein, head of the Forum for Palestinian Studies at the Dayan Center at Tel Aviv University. He said,“Hamas filmed everything, and the videos were widely circulated. I say this with caution, but I think everyone knows what happened.”
Well documented that this is true.
“Murder porn” is
strangelyinstructively popular there.America’s Leftist Democrats have not quite reached that stage yet, just mock trials or charges and jailing so far. Well, maybe they do a homicide occasionally if nothing else works. J6 prisoners, Julian Assange, and Donald Trump are all examples.
Dead and buried . . .
Many who liked Jews and wanted to live in peace with them were murdered in the first half of the 20th century by various islamo-fascist groups.
Most seem to be content with putting Wrongthinkers in prison (or at least destroying their careers and ruining them financially), but some do talk openly about violence, even deadly violence.
Now would seem to be the time for those Gazans who wish to be free of Hamas to gather and support the IDF. I’m skeptical that the reason this isn’t happening is because the masses are afraid of Hamas. I suspect it has more to do with a population corrupted by a generation of Islamist hate.
Funny that they would continue to choose so badly in contrast to the rich, happy, democratic heritage of the ancient Arab kingdom of Palestine. I am pretty sure that a religion which glorifies violence and martyrdom, encourages intolerance and misogyny and cripples serious self-examination is not a factor. It must be the fault of the Jooz.
This.
They are not a captive population. They support Hamas
The WSJ reported that the Gazans are starting to come around. The percentage shift was a whole 4%. And I agree, Hank, that their Islamist hate is also a factor.
We in the West are so addled with i’d-like-to-teach-the-world-to-sing, multi-culti nonsense, we cannot see ancient tribalist hatreds within the Arab world as ancient tribalist hatreds. No! There’s got be some rational explanation as to why Gazans want to murder Jews. A Western explanation! Something economic! Something geopolitical! Something settler/colonial! Anything other than what it is: pre-civilizational tribalist hatred.
They cannot believe that the motivating factor could be religion–shades of the Marxist obsession with class and economics.
If UNRWA and other international aid agencies won’t speak up, how could ordinary Gazans?
Oh please!
They do nothing to stop and celebrate in the streets on October 7.
The people in Gaza are for all of this. Muslims around the world, free to express themselves celebrated 10/7.
There is no significant number of Gazans desperately unhappy with Hamas but afraid to say anything.
The people in the West who are sympathetic to the Gazans are free to speak and what do they say?
Heck, what do people at Ricochet say?
I shed not one single tear for any of them. They can all suffer the fruits of their wants.
There’s a scene in Memphis Belle when the allied bomber is dropping bombs on Germany. It’s been a long time since I saw it but as I recall, due to incoming fire the bomb targeting guy is not quite able to line his bombs up over their targets. Another guy just wants to get the bombs dropped and get home and obviously doesn’t care about collateral damage. When the bomb dropper objects to his insistence, he yells out “They’re all Nazis!”
Having had too many unfortunate cases of people canceling me because of support for Trump, and likely losing my job because of it being too obvious I did not support abortion, gays, pride, etc. it is not surprising to me that people are either “fearful or prudent” for not speaking out.
We also have a couple generations corrupted by hatred of Christians, conservatives, or simply those who have moral convictions about things like infanticide, child trafficking, public school grooming, etc.
I know too many people that have had their children refuse contact with them and/or refuse to let them see their grandchildren because of their “hateful” Christianity or being “outed” as Republicans.
Why do we not see mass marches in the streets over things like Lawfare against Trump? Same reason German’s didn’t speak out until it was too late. Conservatives have an abundance of prudence, and yes, often fear about consequences. They tend to not even get another credit card to pay the minimum monthly charges on their other cards.
The Psychology of Totalitarianism
Bill, I agree with what you wrote, but I was actually referring to Gazans themselves and not to the ignorant wannabe jihadists intimidating the fearful administrations of our ersatz “elite” universities.
The people of Gaza know what Hamas did. The people of Gaza know that Hamas is the government they put in power. And so the people of Gaza bear responsibility — whether or not they have the moral character to recognize it — for the monstrous acts of their government.
And, again, Hamas is under siege right now, so there will never be a better time for Gazans to express condemnation and outrage toward them.
All of which is, I know, beside the point: I believe that the Palestinians in general have been so corrupted by the hatred spewed by their horrible leadership and by the authorities of their barbaric religion that they fall far short of our western ideals of moral behavior.
Imagine a world in which Nazi Germany had not been defeated and occupied, and several generations of German children had been indoctrinated in Nazi ideology. That’s what we see in the Middle East–except that it’s had roughly 1400 years of indoctrination.