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  1. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    Good to sit & watch this ad.

    We need to get people aware of how preposterous it is that Venezuela is seeing a record drop in serious  crime statistics because so many of their adult criminals have moved to the USA.

    And personally I will never ever forget the  murder of Kate Stenle, 24 yrs old and shot by a drunken lunatic who thought he might kill some seals on a pier in San Francisco.

     

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  2. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    Google isn’t satisfied with monumentally stupid image (de)generation. As has long been suspected, they’re cooking regular queries to present the results that they think you should have.

    More Google Shenanigans

    In most cases, Google stacks the algorithm to ensure you get the kind of answers they prefer you see, but in at least a few they simply ignore your question and return results that are to a question you didn’t even ask. 

     

     

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  3. OccupantCDN Coolidge
    OccupantCDN
    @OccupantCDN

    Also, I couldnt find the ad on You Tube. I found it easily on Rumble.

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  4. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    Percival (View Comment):

    Google isn’t satisfied with monumentally stupid image (de)generation. As has long been suspected, they’re cooking regular queries to present the results that they think you should have.

    More Google Shenanigans

    In most cases, Google stacks the algorithm to ensure you get the kind of answers they prefer you see, but in at least a few they simply ignore your question and return results that are to a question you didn’t even ask.

     

     

    I’ve noticed this a lot lately. I’ve kind of given up being able to find even information I know exists to ensure I get details right. The search engines are all useless in doing research now. Talk about dark ages, we are kinda entering one now. None of the information that will be published and available from this era will be accurate.

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  5. Doctor Robert Member
    Doctor Robert
    @DoctorRobert

    It may be a devastating ad, but that will not make it effective.   To be effective, it will have to convince people to vote for Mr Trump who would otherwise not do so.  Too many people have given up on Mr Trump for it to be effective. 

    If the Republicans would nominate someone under the age of 60 who does not spout nonsense every other day, this election would be a settled thing.  But no, we always have to take the hard way.

    Let’s hope that I am wrong.

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    It may be a devastating ad, but that will not make it effective. To be effective, it will have to convince people to vote for Mr Trump who would otherwise not do so. Too many people have given up on Mr Trump for it to be effective.

    If the Republicans would nominate someone under the age of 60 who does not spout nonsense every other day, this election would be a settled thing. But no, we always have to take the hard way.

    Let’s hope that I am wrong.

    It may be enough if just a fairly small portion of the black vote shifts, which seems to already be the case and very likely would not happen with anyone else. Last I heard, the Dimocrats have to get something like 95% of the black vote to win.  If they get even a small % less than that, they lose.

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    It may be a devastating ad, but that will not make it effective. To be effective, it will have to convince people to vote for Mr Trump who would otherwise not do so. Too many people have given up on Mr Trump for it to be effective.

    If the Republicans would nominate someone under the age of 60 who does not spout nonsense every other day, this election would be a settled thing. But no, we always have to take the hard way.

    Let’s hope that I am wrong.

    Right.

    Right 

    Every other GOP candidate would have absolutely addressed the concerns of Trump voters.

     

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  8. OccupantCDN Coolidge
    OccupantCDN
    @OccupantCDN

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    It may be a devastating ad, but that will not make it effective. To be effective, it will have to convince people to vote for Mr Trump who would otherwise not do so. Too many people have given up on Mr Trump for it to be effective.

    If the Republicans would nominate someone under the age of 60 who does not spout nonsense every other day, this election would be a settled thing. But no, we always have to take the hard way.

    Let’s hope that I am wrong.

    I think its very effective, in part because every opposition quote in the ad was in context – so often with these types of ads, its partial quotes or the context has been edited out …

    Instead of going to specific media markets to run this ad, it should be put on cable or national distribution … Make sure everyone sees this ad… Not just battleground states…

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  9. CACrabtree Coolidge
    CACrabtree
    @CACrabtree

    Yes, I remember the Willie Horton ad in the 1988 election.  Then, in the 1992 election, the Dims were screaming, “We can’t let the Republicans ‘Willie Horton’ us!”

    2004 rolls around and Navy vets (the “swifties”) sank John Kerry’s campaign because of his service (or, should we say, questionable service) in the Vietnam War.  So, in 2008, the Democratic battlecry was, “We can’t let the Republicans ‘Swiftboat’ us!”

    In both cases, the Republican/Swiftboat Vet ads were the absolute truth.  So, in reality, the Dims were actually saying, “We can’t let the Republicans tell the truth about us again”.

    Funny how that works.

    Now it seems Trump is committing the unpardonable sin (at least, to the Dims); he’s telling the truth.

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  10. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    OccupantCDN: This is going to be listed as one of the most effective campaign ads ever:

    It didn’t say a word about abortion. 

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN: This is going to be listed as one of the most effective campaign ads ever:

    It didn’t say a word about abortion.

    Unless you think there should be a nationwide ban, Trump already did his part and SCOTUS did theirs.

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  12. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
    DaveSchmidt
    @DaveSchmidt

    I am pretty sure no one is going to find video of Biden driving a tank.

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  13. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    I am pretty sure no one is going to find video of Biden driving a tank.

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  14. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    In general, candidates should avoid funny headgear.

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  15. Mark Camp Member
    Mark Camp
    @MarkCamp

    Like others I have long noticed the problem of all the search engines doctoring my searches, and also that it has gotten much more extreme. It is about 100% predictable now what results they do not want me to see, and just as certain that no amount of editing the search, even including special wild cards for exact match or double quote marks to weed out spurious, politically correct results will work.  They would rather answer “no results found” on a search where it is patently obvious that there are actually large numbers of actual hits out there that they’ve censored.

    I face almost every day the horrifying reality that I now live in a post-Web information world, locked behind intellectual prison walls through which almost no unapproved information is allowed to pass.  When most access to unapproved books, magazines, and newspapers has been cut off—that is coming, but more slowly because the Internet can’t read printed material, which must be interdicted physically—our isolation will be limited to the underground.  Hidden or encrypted copies of books, etc.

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  16. Globalitarian Lower Order Misanthropist Coolidge
    Globalitarian Lower Order Misanthropist
    @Flicker

    Percival (View Comment):

    Google isn’t satisfied with monumentally stupid image (de)generation. As has long been suspected, they’re cooking regular queries to present the results that they think you should have.

    More Google Shenanigans

    In most cases, Google stacks the algorithm to ensure you get the kind of answers they prefer you see, but in at least a few they simply ignore your question and return results that are to a question you didn’t even ask.

    I asked almost this exact same question to Brave search and it, too, reverse the question.  It has done it on some other queries as well.  (Brave often starts its results page with an AI summary that is useless and pointless.  And offensive because I want evidence to come up with my own view of things, not to read the summary of a mindless, electronic word tabulator.)

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  17. Globalitarian Lower Order Misanthropist Coolidge
    Globalitarian Lower Order Misanthropist
    @Flicker

    Stina (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Google isn’t satisfied with monumentally stupid image (de)generation. As has long been suspected, they’re cooking regular queries to present the results that they think you should have.

    More Google Shenanigans

    In most cases, Google stacks the algorithm to ensure you get the kind of answers they prefer you see, but in at least a few they simply ignore your question and return results that are to a question you didn’t even ask.

    I’ve noticed this a lot lately. I’ve kind of given up being able to find even information I know exists to ensure I get details right. The search engines are all useless in doing research now. Talk about dark ages, we are kinda entering one now. None of the information that will be published and available from this era will be accurate.

    And here I thought I was the only one.

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  18. The Scarecrow Thatcher
    The Scarecrow
    @TheScarecrow

    Globalitarian Lower Order Misa… (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Google isn’t satisfied with monumentally stupid image (de)generation. As has long been suspected, they’re cooking regular queries to present the results that they think you should have.

    More Google Shenanigans

    In most cases, Google stacks the algorithm to ensure you get the kind of answers they prefer you see, but in at least a few they simply ignore your question and return results that are to a question you didn’t even ask.

    I asked almost this exact same question to Brave search and it, too, reverse the question. It has done it on some other queries as well. (Brave often starts its results page with an AI summary that is useless and pointless. And offensive because I want evidence to come up with my own view of things, not to read the summary of a mindless, electronic word tabulator.)

    Wait, I thought Brave was supposed to be the bomb. Has something happened to them too?

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  19. OccupantCDN Coolidge
    OccupantCDN
    @OccupantCDN

    kedavis (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN: This is going to be listed as one of the most effective campaign ads ever:

    It didn’t say a word about abortion.

    Unless you think there should be a nationwide ban, Trump already did his part and SCOTUS did theirs.

    Abortion is not a winning issue federally. Leave it to the states so that each state can have the laws in keeping with the culture of that state. Its maximizing democracy. Utah is going to have a different approach than say California, if we let both states pursue the policies that the majority wants you get lower animosity on this issue.

    Boarder security is unifying issue. It has implications to Unemployment, Inflation, Housing, Crime and Safety… Its also unifying politically, the vast majority of the American public want it shut down and stopped.

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  20. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    Globalitarian Lower Order Misa… (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Google isn’t satisfied with monumentally stupid image (de)generation. As has long been suspected, they’re cooking regular queries to present the results that they think you should have.

    More Google Shenanigans

    In most cases, Google stacks the algorithm to ensure you get the kind of answers they prefer you see, but in at least a few they simply ignore your question and return results that are to a question you didn’t even ask.

    I asked almost this exact same question to Brave search and it, too, reverse the question. It has done it on some other queries as well. (Brave often starts its results page with an AI summary that is useless and pointless. And offensive because I want evidence to come up with my own view of things, not to read the summary of a mindless, electronic word tabulator.)

    Wait, I thought Brave was supposed to be the bomb. Has something happened to them too?

    Didn’t Duck Duck Go let’s us down too?

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  21. Steven Seward Member
    Steven Seward
    @StevenSeward

    Globalitarian Lower Order Misa… (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Google isn’t satisfied with monumentally stupid image (de)generation. As has long been suspected, they’re cooking regular queries to present the results that they think you should have.

    More Google Shenanigans

    In most cases, Google stacks the algorithm to ensure you get the kind of answers they prefer you see, but in at least a few they simply ignore your question and return results that are to a question you didn’t even ask.

    I asked almost this exact same question to Brave search and it, too, reverse the question. It has done it on some other queries as well. (Brave often starts its results page with an AI summary that is useless and pointless. And offensive because I want evidence to come up with my own view of things, not to read the summary of a mindless, electronic word tabulator.)

    I asked the same question too, in Brave, Duck Duck Go, Bing, and Google, with similar results.  That led me to think that this particular wording might be at fault, so I did a broad search without any hint of bias on just “Illegal immigrant crime” on all four search engines.  Though most of the total results were for articles saying that illegal aliens commit less crime than citizens (and for all I know that might be true, I haven’t explored it), the opposite view was on display right in the first few results on all four search engines.  Microsoft even had a Fox News story on increased crime from illegal aliens as the number one result.

    This is not evidence that Google or any of the other search engines show no bias, it’s just a simple random sample.  We know that Google shows enormous bias on certain political issues.  That’s why I never use Google searches on stuff like that except as a last resort.  I don’t know why any right-winger would use them.  I used to use Bing but Now I use Duck Duck Go.  I usually only use Google when looking for images in my art-related searches.

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  22. Globalitarian Lower Order Misanthropist Coolidge
    Globalitarian Lower Order Misanthropist
    @Flicker

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    Globalitarian Lower Order Misa… (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Google isn’t satisfied with monumentally stupid image (de)generation. As has long been suspected, they’re cooking regular queries to present the results that they think you should have.

    More Google Shenanigans

    In most cases, Google stacks the algorithm to ensure you get the kind of answers they prefer you see, but in at least a few they simply ignore your question and return results that are to a question you didn’t even ask.

    I asked almost this exact same question to Brave search and it, too, reverse the question. It has done it on some other queries as well. (Brave often starts its results page with an AI summary that is useless and pointless. And offensive because I want evidence to come up with my own view of things, not to read the summary of a mindless, electronic word tabulator.)

    Wait, I thought Brave was supposed to be the bomb. Has something happened to them too?

    I rarely nowadays get results that actually relate to the keywords.  In fact every result is the opposite.  The page looks like a propaganda sheet.  Oh, here’s one example.  I was looking for a quote from a J6 protester that he’d had an untreated blood clot in his leg for three months, and no matter how I asked the questions over and over, something like “January 6 [insurrection] protester [prisoner] claims untreated [blood] clot [in leg]” and most of the results that came up were about refuting clams of vaccine blood clots.

    So, to me there seems to be an agenda.

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  23. She Member
    She
    @She

    I did find it on YouTube, although it took  three searches, with different wording for each (sorry, this is an obnoxious site): https://youtu.be/NNpQi3L1PAU.

    I don’t have some of the issues described on Google.  Searching for “illegal immigrant crime” doesn’t bring up stories of the immigrants as victims, but articles/stories on their committing crimes, many from right-leaning sites.  I’m not claiming that Google isn’t fudging the results (clearly it is), but I don’t see what some of you see.

    OccupantCDN: This is going to be listed as one of the most effective campaign ads ever

    Does anyone know where else it’s running?  MSM?  Podcasts?  Alternative media?  IOW, where is it being “pushed” to so that it gets in front of eyeballs without a person having to search for it?

    In the immortal words of the late Queen Elizabeth II, “I have to be seen to be believed.”

    If the ad (from a MAGA PAC, not the Trump campaign itself) isn’t seen by all that many people other than those who have an interest in seeking it out because they already agree with  its point, then I don’t think it will be effective at all, since the term “effective” implies that it will change minds.

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  24. Steven Seward Member
    Steven Seward
    @StevenSeward

    She (View Comment):

     

    If the ad (from a MAGA PAC, not the Trump campaign itself) isn’t seen by all that many people other than those who have an interest in seeking it out because they already agree with its point, then I don’t think it will be effective at all, since the term “effective” implies that it will change minds.

    I don’t know about it reaching liberal audiences, but the ad has great pictures and drama – the two main ingredients that draw in liberal viewers who are highly influenced by images and emotional content.  It probably won’t sway most white liberal/leftists, but a heck of a lotta black democrats will take notice.

     

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  25. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    kedavis (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN: This is going to be listed as one of the most effective campaign ads ever:

    It didn’t say a word about abortion.

    Unless you think there should be a nationwide ban, Trump already did his part and SCOTUS did theirs.

    So what?  Some people are going to vote on the abortion issue forever.   Trump’s devastating campaign ad means nothing to them.  There are other issues as well.  Why anyone thinks Trump’s devastating campaign ad is going to change anything, I don’t know.  Maybe they did focus group testing?  

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  26. WI Con Member
    WI Con
    @WICon

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Also, I couldnt find the ad on You Tube. I found it easily on Rumble.

    And that’s a problem. That’s intentional.

    I hope they do a series of these. They should rip-off Scarface with Al Pacino where Tony Montana is cynically states “My name is Tony Montana and I’m a political refugee and I want my human rights just like Jimmy Carter/Joe Biden says!”

     

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  27. OccupantCDN Coolidge
    OccupantCDN
    @OccupantCDN

    WI Con (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Also, I couldnt find the ad on You Tube. I found it easily on Rumble.

    And that’s a problem. That’s intentional.

    I hope they do a series of these. They should rip-off Scarface with Al Pacino where Tony Montana is cynically states “My name is Tony Montana and I’m a political refugee and I want my human rights just like Jimmy Carter/Joe Biden says!”

     

    Agreed. Its a problem. Unless you got the scratch to buy YouTube (if they’d sell it any price) then I dont see a fix for it…

    Even if the DNC/Biden administration isnt pushing YouTube to sensor Trump Campaign or anti Biden content, its their natural inclination… They’d do it anyway.

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  28. Mark Camp Member
    Mark Camp
    @MarkCamp

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    Wait, I thought Brave was supposed to be the bomb. Has something happened to them too?

    Yes. I get the same kind of results there, maybe worse. Worse, if that’s the browser that ignores strict search wildcard.

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  29. Mark Camp Member
    Mark Camp
    @MarkCamp

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    Globalitarian Lower Order Misa… (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Google isn’t satisfied with monumentally stupid image (de)generation. As has long been suspected, they’re cooking regular queries to present the results that they think you should have.

    More Google Shenanigans

    In most cases, Google stacks the algorithm to ensure you get the kind of answers they prefer you see, but in at least a few they simply ignore your question and return results that are to a question you didn’t even ask.

    I asked almost this exact same question to Brave search and it, too, reverse the question. It has done it on some other queries as well. (Brave often starts its results page with an AI summary that is useless and pointless. And offensive because I want evidence to come up with my own view of things, not to read the summary of a mindless, electronic word tabulator.)

    Wait, I thought Brave was supposed to be the bomb. Has something happened to them too?

    Didn’t Duck Duck Go let’s us down too?

    Yes.

    To my knowledge there is no publicly available search engine that is not involved in this falsification of results. I do not think it is feasible for one to be built anymore.  I think I know the reason but I am not at all sure so I won’t comment. Just something I read once and only vaguely recall. It would need verification and details.

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  30. Steven Seward Member
    Steven Seward
    @StevenSeward

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