Biden May Sacrifice Israel, or Tlaib is Aiding and Abetting Terrorists

 

The people in Dearborn, MI seem to think that they can singlehandedly determine whether President Biden wins the election in November. With those who have joined up to sabotage his election run, including local Dearborn officials and Rep. Rashida Tlaib, who is essentially supporting terrorism, it could have an impact on election results.

But will the effect be as consequential as Democrats and Joe Biden believe?

Let me explain my thinking.

First, Rashida Tlaib has been campaigning for Biden to side with Hamas in the Gaza War. For a resolution condemning the rape and sexual violence ordered by Hamas and carried out by their followers, Tlaib refused to vote. In addition, she was censured:

In November, the House censured Tlaib for having ‘defended the brutal rapes, murders, beheadings, and kidnapping — including of Americans — by Hamas as justified.’

Only 22 Democrats voted in support of that Republican-led resolution.

Tlaib, a Palestinian American and member of the progressive ‘Squad,’ received the rebuke for promoting ‘false narratives’ about the war on her social media account and posting the phrase ‘From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.’

So, a number of issues have developed. In some ways, Tlaib is betraying not only the Democrats, but also the support of a long-term ally, Israel; she has told anyone who will listen in Michigan that they should vote “uncommitted” rather than vote for Joe Biden in today’s Democrat primary. She is demonstrating her support of Hamas, the organization that took hostages (including Americans), but has violated every tenet of lawful war and has committed war crimes.

Meanwhile, Biden has sent representatives to talk to Arab constituents in Dearborn (although he hasn’t gone himself). He’s worried that enough of those voters could refuse to vote for him, not only in the primary but in November, and compromise his victory, even though the Arab population is only 2.1% in Michigan..

Will he become desperate enough to shift his positions on Israel? Will he try to force them into an absurd hostage swap where Hamas has demanded an exchange of thousands of Palestinian prisoners for only some of the hostages? Will he insist on an unreasonable cease fire that would jeopardize Israel’s ability to be successful in this war? Will he require plans for a two-state solution, rewarding the Palestinians for their horrific October 7 attack?

As an aside, people periodically voice their concerns about American Jews who support Israel, saying their allegiances are compromised between the two countries.

I think that’s exactly the position that Rashida Tlaib is in, too, between the U.S. and Gaza.

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  1. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Hamas wears civilian clothes. Civilians are armed and celebrate the killings committed by Hamas. Hamas is deeply embedded in places where civilians live and work making it impossible to fight them without also killing civilians, unless they leave. Hamas doesn’t let them leave and uses civilians as human shields. Hamas steals food deliveries and Palestinians even try to attack Israeli military escorting humanitarian deliveries. Even UN agencies have been guilty of helping Hamas. Hamas started this with war crimes and thus isn’t entitled to Geneva protections. Instead, they are trying to get sympathy protections from anti-Semites, moral preeners, fools, and weaklings.

     

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  2. Paul Stinchfield Member
    Paul Stinchfield
    @PaulStinchfield

    “Look at these bullets which were fired into my house by the baby-killing infidel war criminals!”

    • #92
  3. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    “Look at these bullets which were fired into my house by the baby-killing infidel war criminals!”

    Looks like she dug into her family’s warfighting stash in her house. She is a Hamas sympathizer. Such mothers raise their sons to become Hamas. 

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  4. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    “Look at these bullets which were fired into my house by the baby-killing infidel war criminals!”

    Looks like she dug into her family’s warfighting stash in her house. She is a Hamas sympathizer. Such mothers raise their sons to become Hamas.

    That photo is actually from Iraq:

    “An elderly Iraqi woman shows two bullets which she says hit her house following an early coalition forces raid”
    –Agence France-Presse (AFP News Agency), August 2007

    But you know that exact sort of garbage will get repeated over and over.

    • #94
  5. Globalitarian Lower Order Misanthropist Coolidge
    Globalitarian Lower Order Misanthropist
    @Flicker

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    “Look at these bullets which were fired into my house by the baby-killing infidel war criminals!”

    Looks like she dug into her family’s warfighting stash in her house. She is a Hamas sympathizer. Such mothers raise their sons to become Hamas.

    Except that this is what Gemini generated as a typical MAGA supporter.

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  6. Percival Thatcher
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    @Percival

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    “Look at these bullets which were fired into my house by the baby-killing infidel war criminals!”

    Looks like she dug into her family’s warfighting stash in her house. She is a Hamas sympathizer. Such mothers raise their sons to become Hamas.

    That photo is actually from Iraq in the early 2000’s, but you know that exact sort of garbage will get repeated over and over.

    Those Israelis are throwing ammunition at little old ladies!

    Gotta be a war crime in there somewhere.

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  7. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    Geneva Conventions:

    • The Conventions apply to a signatory nation even if the opposing nation is not a signatory, but only if the opposing nation “accepts and applies the provisions” of the Conventions.

    As I said.

    Anyone who has followed me knows one of my big complaints is our roe, all carrot, no stick. We apply these conventions even when the enemy does not, thus providing barbarians no incentive to apply them but to be as ruthless as possible, endangering our troops and civilians. It is as perverse a form of moral preening as siding with Hamas.

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  8. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Red Herring (View Comment):
    Anyone who has followed me knows one of my big complaints is our roe

    Our ROE are a stinking pile of fish eggs? ;-)

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  9. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):
    Anyone who has followed me knows one of my big complaints is our roe

    Our ROE is a stinking pile of fish eggs? ;-)

    If it stinks worse than a skunk, then yes. Apple autocorrect refused to capitalize roe and I had no patience to fight it.

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  10. kedavis Coolidge
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):
    Anyone who has followed me knows one of my big complaints is our roe

    Our ROE is a stinking pile of fish eggs? ;-)

    If it stinks worse than a skunk, then yes. Apple autocorrect refused to capitalize roe and I had no patience to fight it.

    Probably thinks it’s gotta be either fish eggs, or vs. Wade.

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  11. Zafar Member
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    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Globalitarian Lower Order Misa… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    I’m not defending Hamas.

    Nice try. I didn’t say you did. You won’t condemn them, either.

    It’s not that he won’t condemn them, he just condemns Israel more for “forcing” them to do it.

    Yes, he has written about, and justified the Gazans’ reaction to oppression, colonization, and occupation. He excused Hamas for their barbaric aggression on these grounds. NOW he says it’s all about the poor civilians who are in the way, and calls it “war crimes,” “genocide,” “starvation,” and now “slaughter.”

    He hasn’t shown such lamentation over the Israelis, though, who were actually and actively and LITERALLY slaughtered. They were, after all, colonizers, you know.

    He has said, in the past, that he is here to learn from us. But all I see is propagandizing.

    On the contrary, Paul, I’m learning a lot.

    • #101
  12. Zafar Member
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment): ‘ ‘

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    Israel isn’t violating this.

    The prohibition of starvation as a method of warfare does not prohibit siege warfare as long as the purpose is to achieve a military objective and not to starve a civilian population… Israel’s Manual on the Laws of War explains that the prohibition of starvation “clearly implies that the city’s inhabitants must be allowed to leave the city during a siege”.[20] Alternatively, the besieging party must allow the free passage of foodstuffs and other essential supplies, in accordance with Rule 55.

    Blockades and embargoes that cause starvation

    Likewise, the prohibition of starvation as a method of warfare does not prohibit the imposition of a naval blockade as long as the purpose is to achieve a military objective and not to starve a civilian population… the blockading party must provide for free passage of humanitarian relief supplies.

    But the blockading party is not allowing free passage of foodstuff, other essential supplies or humanitarian relief supplies.

    As for their intent, courtesy the Times Of Israel:

    Defense Minister Yoav Gallant says he has ordered a “complete siege” of the Gaza Strip, as Israel fights the Hamas terror group.

    “I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba.

    “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,” he adds.

     

     

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  13. Zafar Member
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):’

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    Nationals of a State which is not bound by the Convention are not protected by it.

    So it’s perfectly okay to starve civilians who do not have citizenship of any state?  That doesn’t  sound right.  Are you sure?

    • #103
  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):’

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    Nationals of a State which is not bound by the Convention are not protected by it.

    So it’s perfectly okay to starve civilians who do not have citizenship of any state? That doesn’t sound right. Are you sure?

    No, the issue isn’t that Gazans aren’t citizens/nationals of A(ny) State.  The issue would be that the (quasi-)State they are supposedly citizens of, is not among the signatories to the Convention.  And/or the State they are supposedly citizens of, if it were among the signatories to the Convention, is not abiding by the Convention and so those they attack aren’t bound by it either.

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  15. Percival Thatcher
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    @Percival

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):’

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    Nationals of a State which is not bound by the Convention are not protected by it.

    So it’s perfectly okay to starve civilians who do not have citizenship of any state? That doesn’t sound right. Are you sure?

    Yup. All people not party to the Convention are out there in the cold. If you could obtain the benefits of the Convention without agreeing to it, the Convention would fall apart. No free rides.

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  16. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):
    But the blockading party is not allowing free passage of foodstuff, other essential supplies or humanitarian relief supplies.

    “essential supplies” means “guns, ammunition, and bombs.”

    • #106
  17. The Reticulator Member
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    @TheReticulator

    I haven’t found it necessary to follow conversations like this very closely, because Zafar was predicted by this German lad back on October 9. It’s all going according to script.

     

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  18. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment): ‘ ‘

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    Israel isn’t violating this.

    The prohibition of starvation as a method of warfare does not prohibit siege warfare as long as the purpose is to achieve a military objective and not to starve a civilian population… Israel’s Manual on the Laws of War explains that the prohibition of starvation “clearly implies that the city’s inhabitants must be allowed to leave the city during a siege”.[20] Alternatively, the besieging party must allow the free passage of foodstuffs and other essential supplies, in accordance with Rule 55.

    Blockades and embargoes that cause starvation

    Likewise, the prohibition of starvation as a method of warfare does not prohibit the imposition of a naval blockade as long as the purpose is to achieve a military objective and not to starve a civilian population… the blockading party must provide for free passage of humanitarian relief supplies.

    But the blockading party is not allowing free passage of foodstuff, other essential supplies or humanitarian relief supplies.

    As for their intent, courtesy the Times Of Israel:

    Defense Minister Yoav Gallant says he has ordered a “complete siege” of the Gaza Strip, as Israel fights the Hamas terror group.

    “I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba.

    “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,” he adds.

     

     

    They are fighting “human animals.”

    You must have missed this line:

    The prohibition of starvation as a method of warfare does not prohibit siege warfare as long as the purpose is to achieve a military objective and not to starve a civilian population

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  19. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):’

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    Nationals of a State which is not bound by the Convention are not protected by it.

    So it’s perfectly okay to starve civilians who do not have citizenship of any state? That doesn’t sound right. Are you sure?

    Their target is Hamas, and, yes, what they are doing is OK.  Explain how you feed civilians and not Hamas when they are together and Hamas wears civilian clothes.

    • #109
  20. Zafar Member
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    @Zafar

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment): ‘ ‘

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    Israel isn’t violating this.

    The prohibition of starvation as a method of warfare does not prohibit siege warfare as long as the purpose is to achieve a military objective and not to starve a civilian population… Israel’s Manual on the Laws of War explains that the prohibition of starvation “clearly implies that the city’s inhabitants must be allowed to leave the city during a siege”.[20] Alternatively, the besieging party must allow the free passage of foodstuffs and other essential supplies, in accordance with Rule 55.

    Blockades and embargoes that cause starvation

    Likewise, the prohibition of starvation as a method of warfare does not prohibit the imposition of a naval blockade as long as the purpose is to achieve a military objective and not to starve a civilian population… the blockading party must provide for free passage of humanitarian relief supplies.

    But the blockading party is not allowing free passage of foodstuff, other essential supplies or humanitarian relief supplies.

    As for their intent, courtesy the Times Of Israel:

    Defense Minister Yoav Gallant says he has ordered a “complete siege” of the Gaza Strip, as Israel fights the Hamas terror group.

    “I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba.

    “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,” he adds.

     

     

    They are fighting “human animals.”

    You must have missed this line:

    The prohibition of starvation as a method of warfare does not prohibit siege warfare as long as the purpose is to achieve a military objective and not to starve a civilian population

    From the same quote:

    Israel’s Manual on the Laws of War explains that the prohibition of starvation “clearly implies that the city’s inhabitants must be allowed to leave the city during a siege”.[20] Alternatively, the besieging party must allow the free passage of foodstuffs and other essential supplies, in accordance with Rule 55.

    Is Israel allowing civilians to leave the strip via the borders that Israel controls? Is it  allowing adequate amounts of food and humanitarian supplies into Gaza?

    My understanding is that it’s legitimate for Israel to starve Hamas, but only if they also undertake one of these measures to protect civilian life.

    (And yes, Egypt IS complicit in genocide though oddly not [yet] complicit in ethnic cleansing.)

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  21. Globalitarian Lower Order Misanthropist Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):
    Anyone who has followed me knows one of my big complaints is our roe

    Our ROE are a stinking pile of fish eggs? ;-)

    I like caviar, if that’s what you’re getting at.

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  22. Rodin Member
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    • #112
  23. cdor Member
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    @cdor

    Zafar (View Comment):
    Is Israel allowing civilians to leave the strip via the borders that Israel controls?

    Are you being clever or stupid? The borders to which you refer are Israel and the answer to your question is NO, the Israelis are not allowing the people with whom they are at war to enter their country. This conversation has gotten ridiculous.

    • #113
  24. Zafar Member
    Zafar
    @Zafar

    cdor (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    Is Israel allowing civilians to leave the strip via the borders that Israel controls?

    Are you being clever or stupid? The borders to which you refer are Israel and the answer to your question is NO, the Israelis are not allowing the people with whom they are at war to enter their country. This conversation has gotten ridiculous.

    Netanyahu has said that Israel is not at war with the people of Gaza, only with Hamas.

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  25. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Zafar (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    Is Israel allowing civilians to leave the strip via the borders that Israel controls?

    Are you being clever or stupid? The borders to which you refer are Israel and the answer to your question is NO, the Israelis are not allowing the people with whom they are at war to enter their country. This conversation has gotten ridiculous.

    Netanyahu has said that Israel is not at war with the people of Gaza, only with Hamas.

    Israel can close its borders. Wish we would close ours. 

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