Biden May Sacrifice Israel, or Tlaib is Aiding and Abetting Terrorists

 

The people in Dearborn, MI seem to think that they can singlehandedly determine whether President Biden wins the election in November. With those who have joined up to sabotage his election run, including local Dearborn officials and Rep. Rashida Tlaib, who is essentially supporting terrorism, it could have an impact on election results.

But will the effect be as consequential as Democrats and Joe Biden believe?

Let me explain my thinking.

First, Rashida Tlaib has been campaigning for Biden to side with Hamas in the Gaza War. For a resolution condemning the rape and sexual violence ordered by Hamas and carried out by their followers, Tlaib refused to vote. In addition, she was censured:

In November, the House censured Tlaib for having ‘defended the brutal rapes, murders, beheadings, and kidnapping — including of Americans — by Hamas as justified.’

Only 22 Democrats voted in support of that Republican-led resolution.

Tlaib, a Palestinian American and member of the progressive ‘Squad,’ received the rebuke for promoting ‘false narratives’ about the war on her social media account and posting the phrase ‘From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.’

So, a number of issues have developed. In some ways, Tlaib is betraying not only the Democrats, but also the support of a long-term ally, Israel; she has told anyone who will listen in Michigan that they should vote “uncommitted” rather than vote for Joe Biden in today’s Democrat primary. She is demonstrating her support of Hamas, the organization that took hostages (including Americans), but has violated every tenet of lawful war and has committed war crimes.

Meanwhile, Biden has sent representatives to talk to Arab constituents in Dearborn (although he hasn’t gone himself). He’s worried that enough of those voters could refuse to vote for him, not only in the primary but in November, and compromise his victory, even though the Arab population is only 2.1% in Michigan..

Will he become desperate enough to shift his positions on Israel? Will he try to force them into an absurd hostage swap where Hamas has demanded an exchange of thousands of Palestinian prisoners for only some of the hostages? Will he insist on an unreasonable cease fire that would jeopardize Israel’s ability to be successful in this war? Will he require plans for a two-state solution, rewarding the Palestinians for their horrific October 7 attack?

As an aside, people periodically voice their concerns about American Jews who support Israel, saying their allegiances are compromised between the two countries.

I think that’s exactly the position that Rashida Tlaib is in, too, between the U.S. and Gaza.

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  1. Rodin Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    We can quibble about the numbers Susan, but they are using hunger/starvation of civilians as a tool of war.

    What it is, is Hamas stealing the food for themselves, and you know it.

    So why didn’t Hamas taking food cause starvation in Gaza before this? Did they not eat before October 7?

    You speak as though the people inhabiting Gaza are innocent little angels who never elected and who do not even now support the terrorist, bigoted, Jew-hating Hamas regime. You wish us to believe it was someone else cheering in the streets when the GoPro camera footage was taken by the animals who attacked a peaceful event attended by mostly young men and women. The footage showed the horrific actions of rape and sexual mutilation and murder. Do you think this is some game? Now the Israelis, who have suffered constant bombardment since abandoning the Gaza territory to these people must feed them after suffering this last over-the-top hideous attack? The Gazans have declared war on Israel. Since its inception, Hamas has stated in its charter the intent to destroy Israel and all of the Jews within its territory. If we go back in history, is feeding the enemy how wars are waged. That would be news to me.

    You speak as if they deserve to starve.

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

     

     

    But using noncombatants as human shields and “bait” for food is just fine?

    • #61
  2. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Hamas routinely smuggles weapons in shipments of food and other “peaceful” things. This is why Israel insists on inspecting all shipments, and blockades anyone who tries to evade such inspections. The need for inspections naturally slows down all cargo traffic, but this is the fault of Hamas, not of Israel.

    Similarly, Israel has built walls and established inspection points to curtail terrorist infiltration. This, too, is denounced by “humanitarians” as genocide.

    • #62
  3. Rodin Member
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    @zafar, if I thought that an Israeli ceasefire at this point would cause the Gazans to spontaneously disarm every Hamas warrior and deliver them to a nuetral third party for examination for participation in Oct 7 attack, and completely remove Hamas’ weapons caches, I would be demanding  it. I think you know that isn’t going to happen. This leaves us with a dilemma over who pays the price — the Israeli people or the Gazans — in the short and long term. Hamas has made it so IMO, so I come down on the side of the IDF doing what it takes to destroy Hamas while doing what they can to minimize civilian harm. War is ugly business only made uglier by time. Best that it be done quickly if it must be done, or once commenced. 

    • #63
  4. Britanicus Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    20,ooo DEAD PALESTINIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

     

    It’s a wonder how Hamas is able to find any recruits since it appears that the entire area is only composed of women and children. 

    • #64
  5. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Britanicus (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    20,ooo DEAD PALESTINIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

     

    It’s a wonder how Hamas is able to find any recruits since it appears that the entire area is only composed of women and children.

    War is hell. Don’t start one.

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  6. cdor Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    We can quibble about the numbers Susan, but they are using hunger/starvation of civilians as a tool of war.

    What it is, is Hamas stealing the food for themselves, and you know it.

    So why didn’t Hamas taking food cause starvation in Gaza before this? Did they not eat before October 7?

    You speak as though the people inhabiting Gaza are innocent little angels who never elected and who do not even now support the terrorist, bigoted, Jew-hating Hamas regime. You wish us to believe it was someone else cheering in the streets when the GoPro camera footage was taken by the animals who attacked a peaceful event attended by mostly young men and women. The footage showed the horrific actions of rape and sexual mutilation and murder. Do you think this is some game? Now the Israelis, who have suffered constant bombardment since abandoning the Gaza territory to these people must feed them after suffering this last over-the-top hideous attack? The Gazans have declared war on Israel. Since its inception, Hamas has stated in its charter the intent to destroy Israel and all of the Jews within its territory. If we go back in history, is feeding the enemy how wars are waged. That would be news to me.

    You speak as if they deserve to starve.

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

     

     

    They deserve what they can provide for themselves. The Israelis don’t owe them anything. This is a group of freeloaders who have received 100’s of billions of dollars in free aid from the U.N., the USA, and other countries and organizations. They have used most of that money to build a tunnel city from which they can pop up like rattlesnakes and murder the Jews of Israel, take hostages, and slither back to hiding. This is such an outstanding people that their own Arab brothers and sisters want nothing to do with them. Remember, it’s not just the Israeli borders that are closed to Gaza (while at war), but Egypt also has closed its border with Gaza as well. Your reasoning is the thing jokes are made from. Hey, you Jews, bring us food and make us strong so we are more able to kill you and rape your wives and daughters and put your babies in ovens. Ha! Ha! Sounds nuts to me.

     

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  7. Zafar Member
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    Rodin (View Comment):
    @zafar, if I thought that an Israeli ceasefire at this point would cause the Gazans to spontaneously disarm every Hamas warrior and deliver them to a nuetral third party for examination for participation in Oct 7 attack, and completely remove Hamas’ weapons caches, I would be demanding  it.

    I guess it depends on what you think a ceasefire’s objective is.

    Edited to add:

    Which depends on what you think matters more. “Defeating Hamas” or stopping the slaughter of Palestinian civilians by Israel.

    • #67
  8. kedavis Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):
    @ zafar, if I thought that an Israeli ceasefire at this point would cause the Gazans to spontaneously disarm every Hamas warrior and deliver them to a nuetral third party for examination for participation in Oct 7 attack, and completely remove Hamas’ weapons caches, I would be demanding it.

    I guess it depends on what you think a ceasefire’s objective is.

    Does it matter what OUR/Israel’s objective is, if Hamas has a different objective?  i.e., a ceasefire means “reload”/”rearm” etc.

    • #68
  9. Zafar Member
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    Rodin (View Comment):
    But using noncombatants as human shields and “bait” for food is just fine?

    I really don’t see how criticising Hamas is a justification for war crimes committed by Israel. 

    • #69
  10. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Fellas, I think Zafar doesn’t much care what Hamas does or why they do it or how horrible those acts are. He’s focused on blaming Israel for anything they do; the war crimes of Hamas (which are several in number) are irrelevant. That’s why I rarely engage with him. He tends to slough off the horrible acts of Hamas.

    • #70
  11. Rodin Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):
    But using noncombatants as human shields and “bait” for food is just fine?

    I really don’t see how criticising Hamas is a justification for war crimes committed by Israel.

    You have persuaded me that comment #70 is operative.

    • #71
  12. Zafar Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Fellas, I think Zafar doesn’t much care what Hamas does or why they do it or how horrible those acts are. He’s focused on blaming Israel for anything they do; the war crimes of Hamas (which are several in number) are irrelevant. That’s why I rarely engage with him. He tends to slough off the horrible acts of Hamas.

    I’m not defending Hamas.

    • #72
  13. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):
    But using noncombatants as human shields and “bait” for food is just fine?

    I really don’t see how criticising Hamas is a justification for war crimes committed by Israel.

    They aren’t war crimes. it is war against unlawful combatants. 

    • #73
  14. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Fellas, I think Zafar doesn’t much care what Hamas does or why they do it or how horrible those acts are. He’s focused on blaming Israel for anything they do; the war crimes of Hamas (which are several in number) are irrelevant. That’s why I rarely engage with him. He tends to slough off the horrible acts of Hamas.

    I’m not defending Hamas.

    You seem to have the same hatred for Israel that Hamas has. You also don’t seem to grasp the toxic Palestinian culture. 

    • #74
  15. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Zafar (View Comment):
    I’m not defending Hamas.

    Nice try. I didn’t say you did. You won’t condemn them, either.

    • #75
  16. Zafar Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    I’m not defending Hamas.

    Nice try. I didn’t say you did. You won’t condemn them, either.

    I condemn any group that commits war crimes like killing civilians or kidnapping them. So of course I condemn Hamas for doing that.  Why would you think that I wouldn’t?   

    • #76
  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    I’m not defending Hamas.

    Nice try. I didn’t say you did. You won’t condemn them, either.

    It’s not that he won’t condemn them, he just condemns Israel more for “forcing” them to do it.

    • #77
  18. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    I’m not defending Hamas.

    Nice try. I didn’t say you did. You won’t condemn them, either.

    It’s not that he won’t condemn them, he just condemns Israel more for “forcing” them to do it.

    He will condemn all warfighting which is actually effective in defeating Hamas…or any other such enemy.

    • #78
  19. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    I’m not defending Hamas.

    Nice try. I didn’t say you did. You won’t condemn them, either.

    I condemn any group that commits war crimes like killing civilians or kidnapping them. So of course I condemn Hamas for doing that. Why would you think that I wouldn’t?

    You need to study the laws of armed conflict. Your use of “war crimes” is your personal opinion..

    • #79
  20. Zafar Member
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    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    • #80
  21. kedavis Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    But if it’s not a “method” of warfare, but rather a consequence of warfare?  Especially, a consequence of their starting of the warfare?

    • #81
  22. Globalitarian Lower Order Misanthropist Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    I’m not defending Hamas.

    Nice try. I didn’t say you did. You won’t condemn them, either.

    It’s not that he won’t condemn them, he just condemns Israel more for “forcing” them to do it.

    Yes, he has written about, and justified the Gazans’ reaction to oppression, colonization, and occupation.  He excused Hamas for their barbaric aggression on these grounds.  NOW he says it’s all about the poor civilians who are in the way, and calls it “war crimes,” “genocide,” “starvation,” and now “slaughter.”

    He hasn’t shown such lamentation over the Israelis, though, who were actually and actively and LITERALLY slaughtered.  They were, after all, colonizers, you know.

    • #82
  23. Rodin Member
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    I’m not defending Hamas.

    Nice try. I didn’t say you did. You won’t condemn them, either.

    I condemn any group that commits war crimes like killing civilians or kidnapping them. So of course I condemn Hamas for doing that. Why would you think that I wouldn’t?

    You need to study the laws of armed conflict. Your use of “war crimes” is your personal opinion..

    Word to the wise: When the time comes, don’t try debating war crimes with @redherring. She’s been trained and knows the rules.

    • #83
  24. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment): ‘ ‘

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    Israel isn’t violating this.

    The prohibition of starvation as a method of warfare does not prohibit siege warfare as long as the purpose is to achieve a military objective and not to starve a civilian population… Israel’s Manual on the Laws of War explains that the prohibition of starvation “clearly implies that the city’s inhabitants must be allowed to leave the city during a siege”.[20] Alternatively, the besieging party must allow the free passage of foodstuffs and other essential supplies, in accordance with Rule 55.

    Blockades and embargoes that cause starvation

    Likewise, the prohibition of starvation as a method of warfare does not prohibit the imposition of a naval blockade as long as the purpose is to achieve a military objective and not to starve a civilian population… the blockading party must provide for free passage of humanitarian relief supplies.

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  25. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    Your source does prohibited terrorizing civilians the way Hamas did and specifies civilians must not be participating in hostilities:. 

    Examples of acts of violence cited in practice as being prohibited under this rule include offensive support or strike operations aimed at spreading terror among the civilian population, indiscriminate and widespread shelling,[26] and the regular bombardment of cities, but also assault, rape, abuse and torture of women and children, and mass killing.
     The term combatant in this rule is used in its generic meaning, indicating persons who do not enjoy the protection against attack accorded to civilians…civilians are protected against attack unless and for such time as they take a direct part in hostilities …

     

    • #85
  26. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Globalitarian Lower Order Misa… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    I’m not defending Hamas.

    Nice try. I didn’t say you did. You won’t condemn them, either.

    It’s not that he won’t condemn them, he just condemns Israel more for “forcing” them to do it.

    Yes, he has written about, and justified the Gazans’ reaction to oppression, colonization, and occupation. He excused Hamas for their barbaric aggression on these grounds. NOW he says it’s all about the poor civilians who are in the way, and calls it “war crimes,” “genocide,” “starvation,” and now “slaughter.”

    He hasn’t shown such lamentation over the Israelis, though, who were actually and actively and LITERALLY slaughtered. They were, after all, colonizers, you know.

    He has said, in the past, that he is here to learn from us. But all I see is propagandizing.

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  27. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

     Geneva Conventions:

    • The Conventions apply to a signatory nation even if the opposing nation is not a signatory, but only if the opposing nation “accepts and applies the provisions” of the Conventions. 

    As I said.

    • #87
  28. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):’ 

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    Nationals of a State which is not bound by the Convention are not protected by it.

    • #88
  29. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    ‘Zafar(View Comment):

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

     Military uniforms have particular significance in the law of armed conflict. The uniform, or other fixed distinctive sign, is a fundamental aspect of combatant status and critical to the implementation of the principle of distinction. Combatants who discard their uniforms and fight in civilian clothing lose their entitlement to prisoner of war status, combatant immunity, and other privileges of lawful combatant status (see Quirin and Krofan, for example).

    • #89
  30. Percival Thatcher
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule53

    From which:

    Rule 53. The use of starvation of the civilian population as a method of warfare is prohibited.

    Military uniforms have particular significance in the law of armed conflict. The uniform, or other fixed distinctive sign, is a fundamental aspect of combatant status and critical to the implementation of the principle of distinction. Combatants who discard their uniforms and fight in civilian clothing lose their entitlement to prisoner of war status, combatant immunity, and other privileges of lawful combatant status (see Quirin and Krofan, for example). But what about fighting in the enemy’s uniform?

    Wearing the other side’s uniform, whether fighting or not, makes the wearer a spy. Spies are subject to execution.

    • #90
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