Roll Over, Galileo

 

The D.C. jury ruled unanimously in favor of Mann’s complaint, and against Simberg and Steyn. They levied a one dollar ($1.00) fine against each Simberg and Steyn for actual damage. That’s a slap at the plaintiff for maybe having an arguable point but still being ridiculous, and an admission S. and S. were speaking truth in their libel. I’m not sure of the legal way to phrase that.

But they also levied punitive fines against Simberg and Steyn, a significant one in the case of the latter. The men were right, but they must be punished anyway.

Sorry this is so short, but what can you say about it?

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  1. Barfly Member
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    I just wanted to get there first with the headline.

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  2. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Disgusting. Despicable. Enraging. Our people, in the form of juries such as this, are useful idiots at best. 

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  3. MarciN Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Disgusting. Despicable. Enraging. Our people, in the form of juries such as this, are useful idiots at best.

    Yup. Justice begins and ends with the juries. What is wrong with people today? My word. 

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  4. Al French Moderator
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    I’m not a civil lawyer, but I think that in Oregon, the  punitive damages have to be proportional to the actual damages. 

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  5. Red Herring Coolidge
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    The justice system is corrupt.

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  6. Annefy Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Disgusting. Despicable. Enraging. Our people, in the form of juries such as this, are useful idiots at best.

    Yup. Justice begins and ends with the juries. What is wrong with people today? My word.

    I helped a defense lawyer once in a five-week long attempted murder trial.

    She pissed off the judge. She pissed off the bailiff. She pissed off the prosecutor and the investigator. And more than one witness. She even pissed off the guy she was defending and her co-counsel.

    But her behavior towards the jury could only be described as borderline seductive.  

    Granted, the thousands spent on the jury selection consultant certainly didn’t hurt.

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  7. Barfly Member
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    I wonder why they were a thousand times more vindictive with Steyn. Were they punishing him for his wit? 

    There are peoples and societies that are ruined, in one way or another, such that they can’t really live alongside civilization. The Palestinian Arabs come to mind. I wonder if we have pockets that far gone in the U.S.

    Eppur si muove.

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  8. MarciN Member
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    My guess is that the jury didn’t understand a word Mark said. I read his statement, and it was Mark at his best. Sigh. 

    He does not deserve this at all. 

     

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  9. Stad Coolidge
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    Barfly: The D.C. jury ruled unanimously in favor of Mann’s complaint, and against Simberg and Steyn. They levied a one dollar ($1.00) fine against each Simberg and Steyn for actual damage.

    Holy QBVII . . .

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  10. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    there is also the cost. 

    This suit cost Steyn loads meanwhile, Mr “Hide the Decline” got his attorney for free. 

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  11. Lunchbox Gerald Coolidge
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    I repeat my comment from a Biden thread:

    Jer 5:31  The prophets prophesy falsely, And the priests rule on their own authority; And My people love it so! But what will you do at the end of it? 

    Spoiler: It turned out bad for everyone.

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  12. The Reticulator Member
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    If  you stay out of D.C. you probably won’t ever be sent before a D.C. tribunal. 

    How did this case end up in a D.C. court, anyway?  I’ve probably been told but don’t remember.  And Google isn’t helping me find out. 

    What court would Steyn’s appeal end up in? 

     

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  13. Red Herring Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    If you stay out of D.C. you probably won’t ever be sent before a D.C. tribunal.

    How did this case end up in a D.C. court, anyway? I’ve probably been told but don’t remember. And Google isn’t helping me find out.

    What court would Steyn’s appeal end up in?

    Steyn’s lawyer felt it was the best place to get a SLAP ruling and case thrown out. Didn’t happen.

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  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    Barfly: That’s a slap at the plaintiff for maybe having an arguable point but still being ridiculous, and an admission S. and S. were speaking truth in their libel. I’m not sure of the legal way to phrase that.

    If it’s truth it’s not libel, isn’t that how it’s supposed to work?

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  15. kedavis Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    My guess is that the jury didn’t understand a word Mark said. I read his statement, and it was Mark at his best. Sigh.

    He does not deserve this at all.

    Yes, I wouldn’t be surprised if Steyn was too eloquent for an average juror, and they resented it.

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    Al French (View Comment):

    I’m not a civil lawyer, but I think that in Oregon, the punitive damages have to be proportional to the actual damages.

    I’ve read that SCOTUS have ruled similarly too.  For certain, punitive damages being a MILLION TIMES more than compensatory, is asking to be overturned.

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  17. Django Member
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    The justice system is corrupt.

    To me it sounds more like there were idiots in the jury box. 

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  18. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    The justice system is corrupt.

    To me it sounds more like there were useful idiots in the jury box.

    FIFY

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