I’m voting Trump today in NH

 

I’ve long preferred DeSantis for all the usual reasons.  I’ve also said that I will do everything possible to support any GOP candidate as the nominee in the general, because the harm done by another 4 years of Democrat rule will be very damaging and be much harder to repair.  Since DeSantis suspended his campaign I’ve been contemplating still voting for him or voting for Trump (DeSantis will still be on the NH ballot).  The reason to support DeSantis is a long-term fall back strategic one, expecting that Trump will handily beat Nikki Haley.  However, the news that Adam Kinzinger is telling me to withhold my vote for Trump in order to lower his margin made my decision.  I will be voting for Trump.

It seems highly likely that this year will be a Trump – Biden rematch.  Current trajectories suggest that Trump can get enough votes outside the margin of fraud to win.  I do expect the voting totals will be much lower than 2020 as the fraudulence of Biden’s “healing normality” promise in 2020 has been clearly shown to be a lie.  I think that we need to get Trump as the presumptive candidate fast, so people can get over their hurt feelz from the primary and unite to defeat the Dems.  As part of that Trump needs to pre-announce his VP pick along with his starting cabinet.   I think the best two options for VP are either Haley (yes, I know all the complaints against her, but I agree with Kurt Schlicter), or Tim Scott.   Senator Scott has the Pence style that balances out Trump’s.  I lean toward him.

Senator Tom Cotton is to me the prime choice for Sec Def.  I think DeSantis would be an ideal Attorney General, given the task there and his impressive skill set.  I would bring back Pompeo for Secretary of State.  Larry Kudlow is my choice for Secretary of the Treasury.  I’d bring Roland Fryer in at Larry’s old role or a similar chief economist.  I’d make Vivek Ramaswamy Sec of Commerce.  Other ideas?  Who else do you think would make up a dream cabinet?

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  1. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Interested in feedback on this story – good luck – I’m with you

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  2. DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order Oaf 🚫 Banned
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    No Caesar: However, the news that Adam Kinzinger is telling me to withhold my vote for Trump in order to lower his margin, made my decision.

    Always do the opposite of what Kinzinger recommends, and you will be successful in life.

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  3. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
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    Kudlow for Treasury would be a very good thing. I would like to see a Trump-DeSantis ticket, followed by DeSantis-Stefanik. Dreaming, I know, but I’d sleep better for the next 12 years.

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  4. No Caesar Thatcher
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    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Kudlow for Treasury would be a very good thing. I would like to see a Trump-DeSantis ticket, followed by DeSantis-Stefanik. Dreaming, I know, but I’d sleep better for the next 12 years.

    Trump – DeSantis cannot happen.  They are both from Florida and it’s against the Constitution.  Also, DeSantis’ unique skill set would be wasted as Veep.  I don’t have a strong opinion on Stefanik, I think she’s a lot smarter than her critics paint her.  To get to where she is via the NY political world is no small achievement.  

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  5. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Kudlow for Treasury would be a very good thing. I would like to see a Trump-DeSantis ticket, followed by DeSantis-Stefanik. Dreaming, I know, but I’d sleep better for the next 12 years.

    Kudlow is a corporatist and weak on Trade.  Peter Navarro for Treasury would fix things.   I like Stefanik for VP.  I think it is a mistake for a Senator trade down to a cabinet job. 

    I hope Project2025.org will provide the army of personnel to unwind the deep state. 

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  6. EJHill Staff
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    Now that Trump has secured the nomination, the polls are coming out right on cue:

    Susquehanna Polling & Research today releases its latest Pennsylvania poll testing general election for POTUS match up between Joe Biden and Donald Trump:

    Biden, 46.8%
    Trump, 39.3%
    Not Sure, 7.6%
    Other, 5.6%
    Same poll shows the GOP Senate candidate outpolling Trump by almost 3 points.

    Virginia Commonwealth

    Biden, 46.7%
    Trump, 42.3%

    But the best one is the Ipsos/Reuters poll that shows if Trump is convicted on a single charge his support absolutely craters, even among Republicans.

    Would you vote for Trump if he’s convicted of a felony? Yes vs No vs Don’t know:

    GOP: 43/28/28
    DEM: 3/91/6
    IND: 14/55/30

    TOT: 20/58/20

    Oh, the disloyalty!

     

     

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  7. Bishop Wash Member
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    No Caesar (View Comment):

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Kudlow for Treasury would be a very good thing. I would like to see a Trump-DeSantis ticket, followed by DeSantis-Stefanik. Dreaming, I know, but I’d sleep better for the next 12 years.

    Trump – DeSantis cannot happen. They are both from Florida and it’s against the Constitution. Also, DeSantis’ unique skill set would be wasted as Veep. I don’t have a strong opinion on Stefanik, I think she’s a lot smarter than her critics paint her. To get to where she is via the NY political world is no small achievement.

    The thought, from other discussions on the site, is that they could run. The Constitution only prohibits electors from a state from voting for two people from their state. Therefore, Florida electors could vote for Trump or DeSantis, in this example, but not both. The choice would be to decide which chamber of Congress you want deciding the office if the 270 threshold isn’t reached with those absent electors. All other states should be able to cast votes for both Trump and DeSantis. It’s a gamble probably not worth taking and the Constitution question would be a distraction.

    I would like an answer from Constitutional scholars as an academic exercise. Until we started talking about a Trump/DeSantis ticket, in either order, on the site last year, my thought was like many that it was prohibited. Perhaps it is not. Additionally, this site has made me look more closely at the 19th Amendment. I’ve been hearing jokes about repealing it since high school government class. I think it’s like overturning Roe. The 19th prohibits states from passing laws to ban women from voting. Repealing the 19th wouldn’t ban women from voting. States would have to take the next step of banning them. These are the great discussions one gets on Ricochet.

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  8. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Kudlow for Treasury would be a very good thing. I would like to see a Trump-DeSantis ticket, followed by DeSantis-Stefanik. Dreaming, I know, but I’d sleep better for the next 12 years.

    How about Rand Paul for treasury?  Or AG.

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  9. Django Member
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    No Caesar (View Comment):

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Kudlow for Treasury would be a very good thing. I would like to see a Trump-DeSantis ticket, followed by DeSantis-Stefanik. Dreaming, I know, but I’d sleep better for the next 12 years.

    Trump – DeSantis cannot happen. They are both from Florida and it’s against the Constitution. Also, DeSantis’ unique skill set would be wasted as Veep. I don’t have a strong opinion on Stefanik, I think she’s a lot smarter than her critics paint her. To get to where she is via the NY political world is no small achievement.

    The thought, from other discussions on the site, is that they could run. The Constitution only prohibits electors from a state from voting for two people from their state. Therefore, Florida electors could vote for Trump or DeSantis, in this example, but not both. The choice would be to decide which chamber of Congress you want deciding the office if the 270 threshold isn’t reached with those absent electors. All other states should be able to cast votes for both Trump and DeSantis. It’s a gamble probably not worth taking and the Constitution question would be a distraction.

    I would like an answer from Constitutional scholars as an academic exercise. Until we started talking about a Trump/DeSantis ticket, in either order, on the site last year, my thought was like many that it was prohibited. Perhaps it is not. Additionally, this site has made me look more closely at the 19th Amendment. I’ve been hearing jokes about repealing it since high school government class. I think it’s like overturning Roe. The 19th prohibits states from passing laws to ban women from voting. Repealing the 19th wouldn’t ban women from voting. States would have to take the next step of banning them. These are the great discussions one gets on Ricochet.

    I’m not a Constitutional scholar, not even a lawyer, but this question comes up repeatedly. Here’s the standard analysis:

    What the Constitution says is that an elector of State X is not allowed to vote for both a presidential candidate who resides in State X and a VP candidate from State X.

    I have also read that Trump maintains a residence in N. J. He is smart enough to figure it out.

    I don’t trust snopes, but their assessment matches what I’ve read elsewhere.

    EDIT: Forgot the link.

    Must the President and Vice-President Be from Different States? | Snopes.com

    U.S. Constitution – Twelfth Amendment | Resources | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

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  10. DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order Oaf 🚫 Banned
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Now that Trump has secured the nomination, the polls are coming out right on cue:

    Susquehanna Polling & Research today releases its latest Pennsylvania poll testing general election for POTUS match up between Joe Biden and Donald Trump:

    Biden, 46.8%
    Trump, 39.3%
    Not Sure, 7.6%
    Other, 5.6%
    Same poll shows the GOP Senate candidate outpolling Trump by almost 3 points.

    Virginia Commonwealth

    Biden, 46.7%
    Trump, 42.3%

    But the best one is the Ipsos/Reuters poll that shows if Trump is convicted on a single charge his support absolutely craters, even among Republicans.

    Would you vote for Trump if he’s convicted of a felony? Yes vs No vs Don’t know:

    GOP: 43/28/28
    DEM: 3/91/6
    IND: 14/55/30

    TOT: 20/58/20

    Oh, the disloyalty!

    Oh noes! I’d better vote for Biden, then!

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  11. Django Member
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    @Django

    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order O… (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    Now that Trump has secured the nomination, the polls are coming out right on cue:

    Susquehanna Polling & Research today releases its latest Pennsylvania poll testing general election for POTUS match up between Joe Biden and Donald Trump:

    Biden, 46.8%
    Trump, 39.3%
    Not Sure, 7.6%
    Other, 5.6%
    Same poll shows the GOP Senate candidate outpolling Trump by almost 3 points.

    Virginia Commonwealth

    Biden, 46.7%
    Trump, 42.3%

    But the best one is the Ipsos/Reuters poll that shows if Trump is convicted on a single charge his support absolutely craters, even among Republicans.

    Would you vote for Trump if he’s convicted of a felony? Yes vs No vs Don’t know:

    GOP: 43/28/28
    DEM: 3/91/6
    IND: 14/55/30

    TOT: 20/58/20

    Oh, the disloyalty!

    Oh noes! I’d better vote for Biden, then!

    I guess those numbers mean that the country as a whole is too stupid to survive. Well, we had a good run for a while. 

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  12. No Caesar Thatcher
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    @NoCaesar

    EJHill (View Comment):

    Now that Trump has secured the nomination, the polls are coming out right on cue:

    Susquehanna Polling & Research today releases its latest Pennsylvania poll testing general election for POTUS match up between Joe Biden and Donald Trump:

    Biden, 46.8%
    Trump, 39.3%
    Not Sure, 7.6%
    Other, 5.6%
    Same poll shows the GOP Senate candidate outpolling Trump by almost 3 points.

    Virginia Commonwealth

    Biden, 46.7%
    Trump, 42.3%

    But the best one is the Ipsos/Reuters poll that shows if Trump is convicted on a single charge his support absolutely craters, even among Republicans.

    Would you vote for Trump if he’s convicted of a felony? Yes vs No vs Don’t know:

    GOP: 43/28/28
    DEM: 3/91/6
    IND: 14/55/30

    TOT: 20/58/20

    Oh, the disloyalty!

     

     

    Interestingly these numbers are not consistent with what Henry Olsen has been discussing recently.  Regardless, I think we’re all aware of the issues for Trump.   It is no longer the time to bemoan the situation,  Instead the only constructive act is to figure out how to win with the cards in hand.  That’s the reason why I think a pre-announced cabinet – a la what he did with pre-announcing his approach to appointing Justices – will be beneficial.  

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  13. DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order Oaf 🚫 Banned
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    No Caesar (View Comment):
    It is no longer the time to bemoan the situation,  Instead the only constructive act is to figure out how to win with the cards in hand. 

    Nah, first we gotta ride Gary Robbins’ abandoned hobby horse through every thread, so that everyone knows we’re not THAT kind of conservative — the deplorable sort that might vote for (spits) Trump!

     

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  14. DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order Oaf 🚫 Banned
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    No Caesar (View Comment):

    That’s the reason why I think a pre-announced cabinet – a la what he did with pre-announcing his approach to appointing Justices – will be beneficial.

    And actually, that’s not a bad idea, because he’d be presenting not just the President you’re voting for, but the whole team. And that can be really appealing.

    It also shows that this is a team approach to fixing the country. That’s also appealing.

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  15. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order O… (View Comment):

    No Caesar (View Comment):

    That’s the reason why I think a pre-announced cabinet – a la what he did with pre-announcing his approach to appointing Justices – will be beneficial.

    And actually, that’s not a bad idea, because he’d be presenting not just the President you’re voting for, but the whole team. And that can be really appealing.

    It also shows that this is a team approach to fixing the country. That’s also appealing.

    I agree. 

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    But the best one is the Ipsos/Reuters poll that shows if Trump is convicted on a single charge his support absolutely craters, even among Republicans.

    Would you vote for Trump if he’s convicted of a felony? Yes vs No vs Don’t know:

    GOP: 43/28/28
    DEM: 3/91/6
    IND: 14/55/30

    TOT: 20/58/20

    Oh, the disloyalty!

    For one thing, Evidently some people have never heard of appeals.

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  17. Mad Gerald Coolidge
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    @Jose

    No Caesar: It seems highly likely that this year will be a Trump – Biden rematch.  Current trajectories suggest that Trump can get enough votes outside the margin of fraud to win. 

    I have a sense of hope, competing against despair… 

    Indifference is a survival strategy.

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  18. EJHill Staff
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    @EJHill

    Django: I guess those numbers mean that the country as a whole is too stupid to survive. Well, we had a good run for a while. 

    kedavis: For one thing, Evidently some people have never heard of appeals.

    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order: Nah, first we gotta ride Gary Robbins’ abandoned hobby horse through every thread, so that everyone knows we’re not THAT kind of conservative — the deplorable sort that might vote for (spits) Trump!

    Two points here:  

    1. All of Gary’s kvetching about Trump was outside the election process. He was trying to wish cast something that wasn’t even in the realm of political possibility. He also had no interest in anything else.

    2.) Other folks, on the other hand, can not wish cast the wider, general electorate into something they’re not: people that live, eat and breathe politics on the same level as they do.

    No, they don’t care about the appeals process. No, they don’t have hundreds of saved articles and screenshots that “prove” Trump’s innocence. No, they don’t sit around and debate the merits of absolute presidential immunity. They go to work, they catch the headlines, play with their kids and see the commercials that run turning timeouts of their favorite sporting events. You think they’re ignorant or have been duped by the media or maybe you just think that they’re downright stupid. But it doesn’t make any difference because those people are the only electorate you’ve got. And instead of wiping the slate clean and debating the real bread and butter issues on the merits the party has chosen the Donald Trump Revenge Tour and placed themselves in a hole of their own choosing. 

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  19. EJHill Staff
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order: And actually, that’s not a bad idea, because he’d be presenting not just the President you’re voting for, but the whole team. And that can be really appealing.

    Does the name Richard Schweiker mean anything to you?

    Secondly, this isn’t a parliamentary system. Here the Senate, and therefore the party in opposition, has a say in the cabinet. You can name Ric Grenell your future Secretary of State but you cannot guarantee his confirmation. And because it’s Trump Part Two, the Senate is unlikely to grant him the same benefit of a doubt that they did in January of 2017. 

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  20. JoelB Member
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    I think that Ramaswamy would make an excellent Chief of Staff. He seems to have a great ability to assess a situation and make a good reply. His success in business seems to indicate that he could direct a staff skillfully in the direction they need to go. He is not tethered to the way things have always been done. If he can make the boss look good and not ruffle too many feathers when dealing with the enormous egos of those around him (not just Trump) he could do a great service for the country. Keeping staff and cabinet members on board is one place where Trump seemed to have difficulty during his term. A good Chief of Staff could be valuable in this aspect. Being Chief of Staff, he could affect many issues and not just the narrow field that a cabinet officer would have. He would be able to be the sort of “In-house Jew” that @iwe described. (Although even the Daniel of the Bible had some formidable opposition from those with ruffled feathers.)

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  21. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
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    No Caesar (View Comment):

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Kudlow for Treasury would be a very good thing. I would like to see a Trump-DeSantis ticket, followed by DeSantis-Stefanik. Dreaming, I know, but I’d sleep better for the next 12 years.

    Trump – DeSantis cannot happen. They are both from Florida and it’s against the Constitution. Also, DeSantis’ unique skill set would be wasted as Veep. I don’t have a strong opinion on Stefanik, I think she’s a lot smarter than her critics paint her. To get to where she is via the NY political world is no small achievement.

    Oh yeah, I forgot about the Florida thing. I’ll go with Attorney General. DeSantis can get some good use out of his axe and scythe in that job. 

    Stefanik isn’t in my district, but as a Republican in New York (which is not unusual after you get out of smelling range of NYC) I have been keeping track of her. Sent her a campaign donation when she was getting started, so I get her regular communications. Impressive lady with solid conservative credentials. She’s got a big district upstate. She’s one of those politicians that strike terror into the hearts of Democrats, so I’m sure she has gotten lots of criticism. 

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  22. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Kudlow for Treasury would be a very good thing. I would like to see a Trump-DeSantis ticket, followed by DeSantis-Stefanik. Dreaming, I know, but I’d sleep better for the next 12 years.

    Kudlow is a corporatist and weak on Trade. Peter Navarro for Treasury would fix things. I like Stefanik for VP. I think it is a mistake for a Senator trade down to a cabinet job.

    I hope Project2025.org will provide the army of personnel to unwind the deep state.

    Senators don’t really run anything but their own offices. Governors are better at running organizations. Whoever winds up in charge of a department in a Trump administration should be ready to make huge cuts, starting with the people who tried to undermine the last administration. So, basically, at least 70%. It’s not a matter of what needs to be cut, but of what might be worth saving; cutting should be the default. 

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  23. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
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    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Kudlow for Treasury would be a very good thing. I would like to see a Trump-DeSantis ticket, followed by DeSantis-Stefanik. Dreaming, I know, but I’d sleep better for the next 12 years.

    How about Rand Paul for treasury? Or AG.

    That would make me happy.

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  24. kedavis Coolidge
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    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    No Caesar (View Comment):

    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    Kudlow for Treasury would be a very good thing. I would like to see a Trump-DeSantis ticket, followed by DeSantis-Stefanik. Dreaming, I know, but I’d sleep better for the next 12 years.

    Trump – DeSantis cannot happen. They are both from Florida and it’s against the Constitution. Also, DeSantis’ unique skill set would be wasted as Veep. I don’t have a strong opinion on Stefanik, I think she’s a lot smarter than her critics paint her. To get to where she is via the NY political world is no small achievement.

    Oh yeah, I forgot about the Florida thing. I’ll go with Attorney General. DeSantis can get some good use out of his axe and scythe in that job.

    But not until AFTER he finishes his second term as Governor.

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  25. GPentelie Coolidge
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    No Caesar (View Comment):
    Trump – DeSantis cannot happen.  They are both from Florida and it’s against the Constitution.

    It is not against the Constitution. The 12th Amendment simply says that if both the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates are residents of the same State, that State’s Electors can only vote for one of them. This is a problem that Trump could solve fairly easily, by switching his residence to NY (or NJ). Established precedent of note: Dick Cheney switched his residence from TX to WY in 2000.

     

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  26. iWe Coolidge
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    @iWe

    I want Vivek as Chief of Staff or VP. Vivek has a superb track record of managing complex programs and guiding the direction of interconnected teams. I think he makes the single best “Hand” imaginable for Trump. 

    He has the energy and command of details to simultaneously be the Press Secretary.  Whereupon he would routinely pummel the Press Corp. Win-win. 

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  27. MarciN Member
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    iWe (View Comment):

    I want Vivek as Chief of Staff or VP. Vivek has a superb track record of managing complex programs and guiding the direction of interconnected teams. I think he makes the single best “Hand” imaginable for Trump.

    He has the energy and command of details to simultaneously be the Press Secretary. Whereupon he would routinely pummel the Press Corp. Win-win.

    I like this. :) :) 

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  28. Django Member
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    GPentelie (View Comment):

    No Caesar (View Comment):
    Trump – DeSantis cannot happen. They are both from Florida and it’s against the Constitution.

    It is not against the Constitution. The 12th Amendment simply says that if both the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates are residents of the same State, that State’s Electors can only vote for one of them. This is a problem that Trump could solve fairly easily, by switching his residence to NY (or NJ). Established precedent of note: Dick Cheney switched his residence from TX to WY in 2000.

     

    How does that myth keep getting perpetuated? It’s like “bigly”. What I heard there was New York speed talk for “big league”, yet “bigly” turns up again and again. 

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  29. MarciN Member
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    @MarciN

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    No Caesar (View Comment):
    Trump – DeSantis cannot happen. They are both from Florida and it’s against the Constitution.

    It is not against the Constitution. The 12th Amendment simply says that if both the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates are residents of the same State, that State’s Electors can only vote for one of them. This is a problem that Trump could solve fairly easily, by switching his residence to NY (or NJ). Established precedent of note: Dick Cheney switched his residence from TX to WY in 2000.

     

    Yup.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think it would work for Trump to reinstate his residency in New York. They have been miserable to him, and I believe there would serious financial consequences. 

    Both Rush Limbaugh and Trump moved out of New York for the same reasons. 

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  30. Terence Smith Coolidge
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    Your cabinet picks all look good. For some reason I think Pompeo would come back as defense secretary. Not sure who would be secretary of state. DeSantis at AG is excellent. The DOJ above all needs to be seriously cleaned out.  Ramaswamy at Commerce would both amuses me and would be a good pick. If anybody can get them some attention He could. Or maybe he would just shut 90% of it down. 

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