Only the ‘Best’

 

In 2016, Donald Trump promised to “only hire the best people.” By 2018, he was openly trashing most of them. What Trump demands is absolute personal loyalty. Not to the office, not to the country, but to him.

When Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds endorsed fellow governor Ron DeSantis, Trump issued a statement that said, “Two extremely disloyal people getting together is, however, a very beautiful thing to watch.” Kneel before Zod, peasants.

In the past two weeks, three high-profile individuals associated with the Trump campaign have engaged in various levels of bad behavior that has been met with absolute silence.

First, Laura Loomer, the self-styled “investigative journalist” whom Don Jr. has been promoting as his father’s next press secretary, doxxed Riley Gaines for endorsing DeSantis. Gaines appeared at a DeSantis event and was compensated for her travel and expenses and that was reported to the FEC. Loomer, who sticks her head up Trump’s rear for free, tried to paint this as a scandal and published Gaines’ home address on X (formerly Twitter), exposing her to Antifa and the rest of the transgender crazies.

Then last week, convicted felon and still Trump advisor, Roger Stone called Casey DeSantis the “C” word. Not illegal, of course, but crude and an indication of the contempt Trump & Co. have for women. That she is a loyal wife, a mother of young children, and a cancer survivor is just icing on that crap cake.

Last night, it was reported that Ryan Fournier, a co-founder of Students for Trump, was arrested for pistol-whipping his girlfriend. I guess we should be grateful that he didn’t use the business end of that gun on her.

We could hope that the other co-founder of Students for Trump will take up the slack. Oh, wait. That guy was John Lambert, and back in 2021, he was sentenced to 13 months in prison for fraud, pretending to be a New York City attorney and bilking people out of thousands of dollars. He’s still working out his supervised release and may not be available.

Only the best people. And as long as you bend the knee you’re A-Okay.

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  1. EJHill Podcaster
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    Django: It may be all there is to admire about Trump on a personal level, but I admire that strength and determination. His motivations may not be as pure as the driven, but I don’t give a damn.

    Character trait or megalomania? (Pathological egotist)

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    I am with you, EJ. I think he is more concerned about his ego than he is about the state of the country. If he was really concerned about the disaster we are heading into he would support the person on our side most likely to win which isn’t him. Destroying or attempting to destroy possible opponents is all about his ego. Attacking or condoning attacks on people like Reilly Gaines who is a very important spokesperson for the right is unconscienable and highly destructive to our side. Those are behaviors much more native to the left from which Trump arose a long time ago but never seemed to totally free himself of the taint.

    I’ll offer this observation: Had 98% of Repubs been subjected to what Trump has suffered in the last few years, they’d be hiding under a bed somewhere curled up in the fetal position and sucking their thumbs. It may be all there is to admire about Trump on a personal level, but I admire that strength and determination. His motivations may not be as pure as the driven, but I don’t give a damn. Add to that the facts that several GOPe pond scum have said that they won’t support Trump should he win the nomination, and you have an all-but-guaranteed Democrat victory for the White House in 2024.

    Probably the same if Trump is not the nominee, just wouldn’t take as much betrayal from those supposedly on our side.

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  3. Django Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Django: It may be all there is to admire about Trump on a personal level, but I admire that strength and determination. His motivations may not be as pure as the driven, but I don’t give a damn.

    Character trait or megalomania? (Pathological egotist)

    I don’t know or care. It’s your call if you are sure you’re qualified to make it. 

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  4. DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order Oaf Member
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    Who the hell is Loomer? I’m not on Twitter. The most recent statistics I’ve read are that only a quarter of Americans use Twitter. I keep hearing her name as if I’m supposed to know who she is and what she says and it’s taken me a very long time to figure out whether she’s a Taylor Lorentz-style lefty or not. And I’m still not sure. I wouldn’t be able to pick her out of a police line up.

    But apparently the Trump-haters hang on her every word.

    Be real. The majority doesn’t know who she is and doesn’t care. And if Trump denounced her more than three-quarters of Americans would go “Who?” Ditto Ryan Fournier. I’m sure more know who Roger Stone is, and probably largely because the FBI made sure that CNN was there when they marched him off in his jammies.

    Demanding that America cater to a tiny group of Twitter Twats is what’s wrong with this country.

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  5. Ed G. Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Ed G.: I’m going to say this now, although I resnt EJ and his ilk demanding it.

    And what “ilk” is that? People with decency? Or people who have enough of the megalomaniac and want someone who knows how to attract talent and move the ball forward?

    However, you can shove your disassociation demands right up your tuckus. There’s more baggage in that term than it should be asked to carry.

    This is, was and always shall be about judgment and competence. Which of those do view as expendable? Loomer is still in his inner circle, Stone is still in his inner circle and so far, he’s pretty damn quiet about Fournier.

    What’s your “ilk?”

    Oh you know all about his “inner circle”? You know Loomer and Stone are monsters too and the rest of us should discard them?

    What of all those who remain in the halls of influence and inner circles who have no business being there any more than Stone or Loomer, who have proven themselves timid, incompetent, or fake? I’m sure we could come up with a long list we’d both agree on. 

    EJ you’re raging and lashing out. I value both judgement and competence. What kind of silly question are you putting to me here? It doesn’t sound rhetorical. 

    Ok, “ilk” is cliche and has baggage of its own. I do try to avoid it. Too bad, though, because I think this argument is what it was made for. Either way, I withdraw “ilk”. Use whatever synonym you wish, but the loss of the negative connotation won’t help. 

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  6. DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order Oaf Member
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    Ed G. (View Comment):
    What of all those who remain in the halls of influence and inner circles who have no business being there any more than Stone or Loomer, who have proven themselves timid, incompetent, or fake? I’m sure we could come up with a long list we’d both agree on. 

    Calling out these minor figures is like when the media finds a Republican county board supervisor somewhere in Idaho who says something racist, and then runs from one elected Republican to the next demanding “You must denounce or we’ll assume you agree with what he just said!”

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  7. Django Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order O… (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):
    What of all those who remain in the halls of influence and inner circles who have no business being there any more than Stone or Loomer, who have proven themselves timid, incompetent, or fake? I’m sure we could come up with a long list we’d both agree on.

    Calling out these minor figures is like when the media finds a Republican county board supervisor somewhere in Idaho who says something racist, and then runs from one elected Republican to the next demanding “You must denounce or we’ll assume you agree with what he just said!”

    “Sealioning” one step removed? 

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  8. DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order Oaf Member
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    I remember when Omarosa claimed that Trump used the “n” word and she had it on tape, and immediately the Trump haters on Ricochet demanded that Trump’s supporters must all denounce him.

    Of course, the tape never surfaced, and it’s clear Omarosa made it all up. But the righteous fury of the Trump haters who clung to the lie never abated. One was still required to denounce him for something he didn’t actually do.

    Guilt by association. It’s a powerful weapon.

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  9. Ed G. Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order O… (View Comment):

    I remember when Omarosa claimed that Trump used the “n” word and she had it on tape, and immediately the Trump haters on Ricochet demanded that Trump’s supporters must all denounce him.

    Of course, the tape never surfaced, and it’s clear Omarosa made it all up. But the righteous fury of the Trump haters who clung to the lie never abated. One was still required to denounce him for something he didn’t actually do.

    Guilt by association. It’s a powerful weapon.

    Or the infamous “good people on both sides”. I still remember getting many a “but still” when it was pointed out that Trump didn’t call nazis good people and did in fact speak against the hatred and violence. But still, the point is Trump is bad and the ends justify the means.

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  10. Gossamer Cat Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order O… (View Comment):
    Demanding that America cater to a tiny group of Twitter Twats is what’s wrong with this country.

    With that statement I heartily agree.  The media has gotten very lazy- most of their stories are just Tweets with a paragraph or two of commentary.  Sick to death of it. 

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  11. EJHill Podcaster
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    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order O: One was still required to denounce him for something he didn’t actually do.

    Guilt by association. It’s a powerful weapon.

    Which ones of these am I making up?

    Who the hell is Loomer?

    As in, “I don’t know who you’re talking about but I’m going to argue her merits anyway because?” Ok, then.

    Let’s re-elect Trump and then let’s all hold hands later and say, “Who is this clown? Why didn’t somebody say something?!”

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  12. Manny Coolidge
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    What amazes me is that so many of the “best he hired” turned against him. Either they all were lacking or he’s got a leadership problem. Frankly he doesn’t have the personality to lead. Owning your own company is one thing. Leading a government of elected officials is a totally different thing. 

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  13. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order: Yes. I’ve never understood “He demands loyalty!” as a negative thing.

    In the UK all government officials swear “by Almighty God that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors, according to law.” We don’t have a king. Our oath is beyond the temporary occupant of the Oval Office and it is to the country and to the Constitution.

    MarciN: Loyalty is something of value to me too. Pence takes the cake–I used to reserve it for Al Gore–on the disloyalty front. If you work for a person or a company and you take a paycheck, if you stop wanting to support that person or that company, you quit.

    Did Mike Pence work for Donald Trump? Or did he work for us? When did we make the transition to “The United States of Trump?”

    Trump even expects loyalty from other world leaders. When Bibi Netanyahu congratulated Joe Biden after the 2020 election Trump went off on him. “The first person that congratulated [Biden] was Bibi Netanyahu, the man that I did more for than any other person I dealt with. … Bibi could have stayed quiet. He has made a terrible mistake. He was very early — like, earlier than most. I haven’t spoken to him since. F**k him.”

    SNIP

    And, of course, there’s DeSantis. “When I hear he might run, you know, I consider that very disloyal,” Trump said. “But it’s not about loyalty, but to me it is, it’s always about loyalty.” Trump and his acolytes insist that Trump pushed DeSantis over the finish line in his first gubernatorial campaign. But a Wall Street Journal exit poll after that race showed the difference was 100,000 African-American women that liked his stance on school choice. Nobody can tell me 100,000 black women give a rat’s patoot about whatever Donald Trump thinks.

    The opposition presents the school choice issue and the need for vouchers as something that only suburbanites with their excess “white privilege” have any interest in. But in many African American communities, families tighten their belts in order to give their kids a private school education. It is in some neighborhoods a real necessity. Not only does the private school help ensure a decent  education of reading, writing, math & history, that place is usually in a much safer neighborhood.

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  14. The Reticulator Member
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    Ed G. (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order O… (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):
    If you work for a person or a company and you take a paycheck, if you stop wanting to support that person or that company, you quit. You don’t spy on your boss (Pence’s taking notes during private phone conversations with Trump, notes so he use them later–why else would have been writing them down) or pretend to be supportive when you are not. In all things, be honest. Loyalty is a form of honesty to me.

    Yes. I’ve never understood “He demands loyalty!” as a negative thing. If you’re running a business, you want those in your employ to be loyal to you and your business. Why would you keep anyone who was working against you?

    “The goal is to portray Trump as deviant, even when he’s doing the same thing as everyone else.”

    Of course everyone demands loyalty. Of course it’s deviant when Trump does it too, let alone when he talks about it openly instead of settling scores behind the scenes or in dishonest ways.

    They don’t all do it to the extreme that Trump does. Reagan put up with a lot of crap from his people. He didn’t go badmouthing all the people who didn’t want him to give his Evil Empire speech, for example.  If it got bad enough that someone did more harm than good he got rid of them (e.g. David Stockman) but he wasn’t nearly as touchy about personal loyalty as Trump is.  Of course, Trump Derangement Syndrome is more severe than Reagan Derangement Syndrome (which was bad enough) but the leftmedia didn’t hold back in publicizing internal dissension within the Reagan administration.   It is deviant the way Trump does it. 

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  15. The Reticulator Member
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    cdor (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order O… (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order O… (View Comment):
    Yes. I’ve never understood “He demands loyalty!” as a negative thing. If you’re running a business, you want those in your employ to be loyal to you and your business. Why would you keep anyone who was working against you?

    You’re doing a lot of gear-shifting there.

    Loyalty to your business is not always loyalty to you. The two can easily conflict. People who can’t discern the difference are not good at business or politics.

    You assert that as if it was an absolute.

    You betcha.

    Well, Trump is pretty good at both business and politics, doncha think?

    He was OK.  But there used to be more to Trump than this personal loyalty stuff.  

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  16. Terence Smith Coolidge
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    To a point, guilt by association to some unknown rando is unfair and someone should not dinged for it. Seem fairer though when someone actively embraces that association. For example when Trump actively touts an endorsement by a  BLM activist Mark Fisher and also claims support by BLM,  reinforces in my mind that Trump is way too opportunistic and  transactional (unprincipled).

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  17. DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order Oaf Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):
    As in, “I don’t know who you’re talking about but I’m going to argue her merits anyway because?” Ok, then.

    No, I’m arguing that you’re taking the crazy person, connecting her to Trump, and then asking us to believe that Trump is bad because the crazy person who likes him is bad. I’m arguing that you’re using guilt by association.

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  18. Steve Fast Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order O… (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order: Lotta guilt-by-association there.

    And how hard would it be to disassociate?

    “You must denounce!” is a demand that leftists always make, built on the foundation of “guilt by association.”

    I mean, if you want to go there, sure. Don’t be surprised when people decline to play this game.

     

    No, no one is asking Trump to denounce them. Why does Trump hire them to work for him? Surely the kind of people you hire to work for you says a lot about you.

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  19. Steve Fast Member
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    Ed G. (View Comment):
    “The goal is to portray Trump as deviant, even when he’s doing the same thing as everyone else.”

    Not true. DeSantis and Haley don’t have those kind of people working for them.

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  20. kedavis Coolidge
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    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):
    “The goal is to portray Trump as deviant, even when he’s doing the same thing as everyone else.”

    Not true. DeSantis and Haley don’t have those kind of people working for them.

    Or maybe they do, but the media isn’t interested in finding them.

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  21. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    If it were just Trump complaining about disloyalty and no one paid attention, who cares?  But a fair number of his supporters also look at it through Trump’s lens.  Going all the way back to the first Republican presidential primary debate in 2015, I remember seeing someone on Ricochet call Megyn Kelly a traitor or some similar term for asking Trump hard questions.  As if being a Fox News employee meant that you had sworn some pledge to only paint Donald Trump (who wasn’t even the nominee yet) in the best possible light.

    How many high-profile people were brought into the Trump administration to the applause of MAGA-world and left being called a traitor, back-stabber, loser, etc by that same MAGA-world?  Any high-profile person thinking of working for Trump’s next administration better not be planning on running for office afterward, because they will very likely be despised by the Trump base for some act of disloyalty or another.

    Lastly, isn’t it childish for Trump to denounce these few governors and others who have endorsed another candidate? He’s just a joke.

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  22. Ed G. Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    They don’t all do it to the extreme that Trump does. Reagan put up with a lot of crap from his people. He didn’t go badmouthing all the people who didn’t want him to give his Evil Empire speech, for example. 

    Did those people go public with it at the time? Did they badmouth Reagan for it at the time?

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  23. Steve Fast Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):
    “The goal is to portray Trump as deviant, even when he’s doing the same thing as everyone else.”

    Not true. DeSantis and Haley don’t have those kind of people working for them.

    Or maybe they do, but the media isn’t interested in finding them.

    Is the Trump campaign incapable of finding these people themselves? They must be pretty dumb if they can’t do the oppo research. That unless the media does the work, the Trump campaign is helpless?

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  24. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Also on the topic of Trump and his former employees, I know why he’s upset with Mike Pence and Jeff Sessions.  What did Elaine Chou ever do to Trump?  Why does he call her “old crow Mitch McConnell’s China-loving wife, Coco Chow”?  Did she actually do anything awful other than having Chinese ancestors?  Why misspell her last name, and where the hell does “Coco” come from?

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  25. Ed G. Member
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    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):
    “The goal is to portray Trump as deviant, even when he’s doing the same thing as everyone else.”

    Not true. DeSantis and Haley don’t have those kind of people working for them.

    I was referring to Trump’s supposedly maniacal demand for loyalty, or, as it’s sometimes characterized, fealty.

    However, your belief that those kind of people could never be associated with your kind of people is touching. Really. If it’s  sincere then i may be starting to understand you. 

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  26. Steve Fast Member
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    Ed G. (View Comment):
    However, your belief that those kind of people could never be associated with your kind of people is touching. Really. If it’s  sincere then i may be starting to understand you. 

    Well then name one.

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  27. Ed G. Member
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    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    Also on the topic of Trump and his former employees, I know why he’s upset with Mike Pence and Jeff Sessions. What did Elaine Chou ever do to Trump? Why does he call her “old crow Mitch McConnell’s China-loving wife, Coco Chow”? Did she actually do anything awful other than having Chinese ancestors? Why misspell her last name, and where the hell does “Coco” come from?

    What did Chao do? We’ll probably never know what happens behind closed doors among the connected. However, we do know she resigned over J6, Trump’s “actions”, and explores a 25th amendment removal aith other cabinet members. That was silly and counterproductive even on J7. 

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  28. Ed G. Member
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    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):
    However, your belief that those kind of people could never be associated with your kind of people is touching. Really. If it’s sincere then i may be starting to understand you.

    Well then name one.

    Ok I take it back, there is nothing touching about you.

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  29. The Reticulator Member
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    Ed G. (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    They don’t all do it to the extreme that Trump does. Reagan put up with a lot of crap from his people. He didn’t go badmouthing all the people who didn’t want him to give his Evil Empire speech, for example.

    Did those people go public with it at the time? Did they badmouth Reagan for it at the time?

    Did Trump’s people all go public with their criticisms before he started badmouthing them?

    In Reagan’s case, as I remember it, the dissenters views had ways of getting leaked to the media, with or without the approval of the dissenter.  As often happens.  The media love to publicize stories of dissension within Republican administrations. A president would have to be a really slow learner not to understand this from the beginning.

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  30. Ed G. Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    They don’t all do it to the extreme that Trump does. Reagan put up with a lot of crap from his people. He didn’t go badmouthing all the people who didn’t want him to give his Evil Empire speech, for example.

    Did those people go public with it at the time? Did they badmouth Reagan for it at the time?

    Did Trump’s people all go public with their criticisms before he started badmouthing them?

    In Reagan’s case, as I remember it, the dissenters views had ways of getting leaked to the media, with or without the approval of the dissenter. As often happens. The media love to publicize stories of dissension within Republican administrations. A president would have to be a really slow learner not to understand this from the beginning.

    I have no way of knowing for sure but many did.

    Times were different when Reagan was president. I doubt things would have workes the same of he were in the internet and social media era.

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