International Criticism of Israel Is a Good Thing

 

If you are interested in an Israeli citizen’s view on the war in Israel, a man who is a legitimate journalist and an IDF reservist, I highly recommend that you listen to the podcast, “Call Me Back” led by Dan Senor, where he has been interviewing Haviv Rettig Gur. They offer updates on conditions in Israel.

In his weekly discussion with Gur, they share opinions you often won’t hear in the mainstream media. Gur often expresses an unconventional attitude about events in Israel, and it’s so refreshing to hear a different point of view. I must admit, however, that I was shocked (as was Dan Senor) at Gur’s take on the international opinion on Israel. I also celebrated his belief.

Some people are tracking the world’s opinion carefully, worried that Israel will lose its commitment to the war when others are critical of them for their determination to be victorious, as they pummel Hamas into submission, and for the number of civilians who may be killed during these efforts. The “experts” believe the Israeli strategies will work against them and make the war longer and more difficult, and that Israel may lose.

Gur shared a very different opinion. He believes that negative world opinion will inspire the Israelis, who are determined to let nothing or no one stop them in their efforts toward victory. Every judgment inspires them. Every angry assessment motivates them. In the past, Israel may have paid attention to these complaints and calls for cease-fires and compliance. But not this time.

Israel is resolute and they will fight until Hamas is decimated and defeated.

Israel will be victorious.

You can listen to the latest podcast here.

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  1. GrannyDude Member
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    Good. I hope so!

     

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  2. Jim McConnell Member
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    Israel is never going to get “the world” on its side. Notice how the UN General Assembly never fails to “condemn” Israel no matter the subject under discussion. Israel certainly realizes this, so they must just go ahead and do what is right morally, which in this instance is obliterate Hamas.

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  3. Susan Quinn Member
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    Israel is never going to get “the world” on its side. Notice how the UN General Assembly never fails to “condemn” Israel no matter the subject under discussion. Israel certainly realizes this, so they must just go ahead and do what is right morally, which in this instance is obliterate Hamas.

    In fact, Israel has more actions from the UN than all the other countries put together. You are so right, Jim. My hope is that Mr. Gur’s counterintuitive assessment is spot on.

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  4. Steven Seward Member
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    I sure hope Haviv Gur is right on this.  The overall pattern so far in its history is that Israel only fights off enemies enough to drive them back over the border, letting them recoup their losses and rebuild over time to fight anew and refreshed.  I take that as the default position until I see something different, and so far Netanyahu has kept up the pressure without giving in to the Israeli weak stomach for total victory.

    I was disturbed to hear talk about swapping the hostages for captured Hamas terrorists.  I figured all along that the hostages would present the biggest problem for the Israeli psyche.  But so far Netanyahu has turned the hostage situation around into leverage for Israel’s side, declaring that he will  never stop the attack until they are released.  That is a genuine reversal of Israeli policy.   I hope it sticks………….

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  5. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    Israel is never going to get “the world” on its side. Notice how the UN General Assembly never fails to “condemn” Israel no matter the subject under discussion. Israel certainly realizes this, so they must just go ahead and do what is right morally, which in this instance is obliterate Hamas.

    China controls more votes in the UN than any other nation.  

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  6. Old Bathos Member
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    Unlike the perpetrators of the various continued Muslim 0n Muslim slaughters all across the House of Peace from Africa to Pakistan, Israeli soldiers and politicians must answer to a discerning and ethical voting base.  Open criticism, transparency, and ethical prosecution of this war are the norm for a people far more civilized and decent than their Muslim accusers and ignorant infidel cheer squads.

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  7. Susan Quinn Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    Open criticism, transparency, and unethical prosecution of this war are the norm for a people far more civilized and decent than their Muslim accusers and ignorant infidel cheer squads.  

    I’m not sure this is what you meant to say, OB.

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  8. Old Bathos Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    Open criticism, transparency, and unethical prosecution of this war are the norm for a people far more civilized and decent than their Muslim accusers and ignorant infidel cheer squads.

    I’m not sure this is what you meant to say, OB.

    Thx. Fixed.  Spell check is my enema.

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  9. cdor Member
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    Mark Levin had an Israeli former Ambassador to the USA on his show Sunday night. This gentleman is a close associate of Netanyahu and on the War Cabinet in Israel. He stated that Israel was not listening to calls for an equivalent response. Hamas, he said, must be destroyed completely…eradicated. But that wasn’t enough. Israel must then take control of the schools and the media in Gaza and change the culture. It would take several decades, but ending the raising of children to hate and want to kill all Jews must be done to truly solve the problem. It is a huge task. But he is correct. It is not just Hamas. It is also the average citizen of Gaza with warped minds and hateful hearts that must be healed from their sickness.

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  10. Susan Quinn Member
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    cdor (View Comment):

    Mark Levin had an Israeli former Ambassador to the USA on his show Sunday night. This gentleman is a close associate of Netanyahu and on the War Cabinet in Israel. He stated that Israel was not listening to calls for an equivalent response. Hamas, he said, must be destroyed completely…eradicated. But that wasn’t enough. Israel must then take control of the schools and the media in Gaza and change the culture. It would take several decades, but ending the raising of children to hate and want to kill all Jews must be done to truly solve the problem. It is a huge task. But he is correct. It is not just Hamas. It is also the average citizen of Gaza with warped minds and hateful hearts that must be healed from their sickness.

    I agree, cdor. But if they are not going to run Gaza, I wonder how they will do that? The Israelis keep saying they don’t want to control Gaza, except temporarily.

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  11. cdor Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    The Israelis keep saying they don’t want to control Gaza, except temporarily

    I didn’t understand this gentleman (so sorry I do not remember his name) to say that, but just the opposite, for the very reason you asked the question.

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  12. Susan Quinn Member
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    cdor (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    The Israelis keep saying they don’t want to control Gaza, except temporarily

    I didn’t understand this gentleman (so sorry I do not remember his name) to say that, but just the opposite, for the very reason you asked the question.

    I think my question wasn’t clear. How will they be able to take decades to change the Palestinian schools if they don’t control Gaza? Or will someone else be in charge of making those changes?

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  13. cdor Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    The Israelis keep saying they don’t want to control Gaza, except temporarily

    I didn’t understand this gentleman (so sorry I do not remember his name) to say that, but just the opposite, for the very reason you asked the question.

    I think my question wasn’t clear. How will they be able to take decades to change the Palestinian schools if they don’t control Gaza? Or will someone else be in charge of making those changes?

    Your question was clear enough to me. I think Israel does  intend to take control of Gaza. I also think that the moderate Arab States in the Middle East hood will be very happy if they do.

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  14. Susan Quinn Member
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    cdor (View Comment):
    Your question was clear enough to me. I think Israel does  intend to take control of Gaza. I also think that the moderate Arab States in the Middle East hood will be very happy if they do.

    Oh! I didn’t realize that. Netanyahu has said a few times that he doesn’t want to control Gaza.  I wish they would, too, because they will at least make sure the job is done properly. But it will also be such a burden, and the Gazans will likely be furious. Still, you gotta do what you gotta do.

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  15. Rodin Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    Your question was clear enough to me. I think Israel does intend to take control of Gaza. I also think that the moderate Arab States in the Middle East hood will be very happy if they do.

    Oh! I didn’t realize that. Netanyahu has said a few times that he doesn’t want to control Gaza. I wish they would, too, because they will at least make sure the job is done properly. But it will also be such a burden, and the Gazans will likely be furious. Still, you gotta do what you gotta do.

    I think Netanyahu has basically said that Israel will not be absorbing Gaza, but that they will dismantle Hamas and not allow a government in Gaza that has as its base the extermination of Israel. Think of it as the Allies occupying Germany after WWII. They wanted to make sure de-nazification had taken root and that the West German government would be a friend. So Israel is basically into “nation building” at scale in Gaza after Hamas is rooted out. 

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