Asking the Obvious

 

Much needs to be learned regarding the recent antisemitic riots.  There’s something going on that is big.  Those huge riots didn’t spring from nowhere.  Their size and coordination can only have occurred, not necessarily knowing in advance exactly when to execute, but they did require an extensive, organized, trained and very well funded organization already in place.

Where’s the FBI?

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  1. David C. Broussard Coolidge
    David C. Broussard
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    Hunting down J6 terrorists and finding conservative social media posts to censor. 

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  2. Kevin Schulte Member
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    Monitoring the situation closely .  So close , they won’t let any harm come to those cute little brown shirts .

    And , the republican corporation just voted to give Chris Wray a brand new shinny building .  No strings attached .

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  3. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot)
    @ArizonaPatriot

    What are you talking about?

    I googled “antisemitic riots” and the only recent event that came up was a single riot the airport in Dagestan.  Russia.  As I understand that one, it wasn’t directed at Jews generally, but intended to be directed at Israelis, on the belief that a plane of Israelis was arriving, which wasn’t true.

    Are there other riots that you have in mind?

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  4. QuietPI Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    What are you talking about?

    I googled “antisemitic riots” and the only recent event that came up was a single riot the airport in Dagestan. Russia. As I understand that one, it wasn’t directed at Jews generally, but intended to be directed at Israelis, on the belief that a plane of Israelis was arriving, which wasn’t true.

    Are there other riots that you have in mind?

    That’s a silly name game, albeit one eagerly played by the MSM.

    Have you read the Hamas charter?

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  5. Paul Stinchfield Member
    Paul Stinchfield
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    What are you talking about?

    I googled “antisemitic riots” and the only recent event that came up was a single riot the airport in Dagestan. Russia. As I understand that one, it wasn’t directed at Jews generally, but intended to be directed at Israelis, on the belief that a plane of Israelis was arriving, which wasn’t true.

    Are there other riots that you have in mind?

    That riot was motivated by the belief that a planeload of Jews was returning home from Israel.

    And there have been riots all around the world.

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  6. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):
    And there have been riots all around the world.

    Just in the Western world.  Commies and neo-Marxists are on the march. 

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  7. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):
    And there have been riots all around the world.

    Just in the Western world. Commies and neo-Marxists are on the march.

    Allied with islamic fascists.

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  8. Old Bathos Moderator
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    Where’s the FBI?

    Stretched thin infiltrating School Board meetings, pro-life groups, the Trump campaign…

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  9. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    “Where’s the FBI?”  

    I am sure agents are present.  I am not entirely sure which side of the police line you’ll find them.  

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  10. Zafar Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    What are you talking about?

    I googled “antisemitic riots” and the only recent event that came up was a single riot the airport in Dagestan. Russia. As I understand that one, it wasn’t directed at Jews generally, but intended to be directed at Israelis, on the belief that a plane of Israelis was arriving, which wasn’t true.

    Are there other riots that you have in mind?

    It’s the wilful double plus gooding of public discourse.  Or literally psychotic.  I don’t know which.

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  11. Globalitarian Lower Order Misanthropist Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    Apparently, in general, people don’t know “psychotic” when confronted with it, and don’t know psychopathic, either.

    Shooting a child between the eyes and then eating lunch from her refrigerator is psychopathic.  Laughing while stomping on a dead man’s face is psychopathic.  Raping, killing and then parading a woman’s dead body around town is psychopathic.  Cutting open the belly of a pregnant woman and beheading the baby is psychopathic.  Shooting a defenseless 90-year-old man as he sits in his chair is psychopathic.  Abducting women for sex is psychopathic.

    What is psychotic is celebrating and cheering these atrocities.  And what is psychotic is excusing these atrocities, and explaining away and justifying them.

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  12. Steven Seward Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    What are you talking about?

    I googled “antisemitic riots” and the only recent event that came up was a single riot the airport in Dagestan. Russia. As I understand that one, it wasn’t directed at Jews generally, but intended to be directed at Israelis, on the belief that a plane of Israelis was arriving, which wasn’t true.

    Are there other riots that you have in mind?

    Maybe you should just stick to your defenses of Adoph Hitler and Attila the Hun (or was that Ghengis Khan? I don’t remember which).

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  13. Nanocelt TheContrarian Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Where’s the FBI?

    Stretched thin infiltrating School Board meetings, pro-life groups, the Trump campaign…

    And staking out Catholic Churches, possibly even in Tyler,  Tx….?? And arresting silent observers somewhere around abortion clinics and planned parenthood facilities. AS I understand the DOJ policies, anyone who has ever expessed publicly a pro life position can be arrested for walking or standing (loitering) within 10 blocks of an abortion facility? Is that correct?

    THe agency has been barred from investigating Cliven Bundy in Bunkerville, Nevada, so that should have freed up a lot of manpower.  Still…so many deplorables, so little time, so few agents.

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  14. JoshuaFinch Coolidge
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    The FBI is a fully owned subsidiary of the Left.

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  15. WI Con Member
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    They sure seem similar to the directed(?) or allowed(?) BLM Riots of 2020. 

    I’m thinking a much more nefarious color revolution-like protests. Allowed to proceed with the implicit approval of the administrative state. 

    Has anyone read or seen reportage of how these are funded, when money transfers take place, who applies for the permits for these demonstrations? Who approves them (names/departments/organization chart). That large protest in DC two weeks ago, I read story about transportation drives organized throughout the Eastern United States – that just doesn’t “happen”, there’s some involved planning required.  Who reserving those busses? Hotels? What did the funding stream look like and from where did it come?

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  16. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot)
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    So, still no answer pointing out any antisemitic riot, other than the anti-Israeli riot in Dagestan that I pointed out.

    I fully understand.  The Israelis are slaughtering Palestinian women and children by the thousands, so there has to be a narrative to justify that action.  It is interesting to see that Ricochet is almost fully on board with participation in that narrative.

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  17. GrannyDude Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    What are you talking about?

    I googled “antisemitic riots” and the only recent event that came up was a single riot the airport in Dagestan. Russia. As I understand that one, it wasn’t directed at Jews generally, but intended to be directed at Israelis, on the belief that a plane of Israelis was arriving, which wasn’t true.

    Are there other riots that you have in mind?

    It’s the wilful double plus gooding of public discourse. Or literally psychotic. I don’t know which.

    The riots are psychotic? I agree.

     

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  18. She Member
    She
    @She

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    What are you talking about?

    I googled “antisemitic riots”…..

    I don’t generally wait for Google to give me permission to point out the obvious, or hide behind whatever it says when it does not.  Glory be, Jerry.  You might want to check a few primary sources.

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    So, still no answer pointing out any antisemitic riot, other than the anti-Israeli riot in Dagestan that I pointed out.

    I fully understand. The Israelis are slaughtering Palestinian women and children by the thousands, so there has to be a narrative to justify that action.

    There you go again. I have yet to see anyone suggest that Israel is taking the actions that it is due to “antisemitic riots” around the world.  Please cite your sources for this assertion–that Israel and its allies are responding to false reports of “antisemitic riots” around the world, and using them as justification to invade Gaza.  Just so we’re clear.

    It is interesting to see that Ricochet is almost fully on board with participation in that narrative.

    It is interesting, once again, to see you jump to conclusions based on your feelings with no underlying evidence or facts to support them.

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  19. Doug Watt Moderator
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    @DougWatt

    One source of the funding for Hamas supporters in the US may be the Tides Center. From Influence Watch:

    The Tides Center operates as an umbrella group providing 501(c)(3) status to groups who cannot or prefer not to apply for charitable status themselves, often while they await recognition of tax exemption from the IRS (a process called “fiscal sponsorship” or “incubation”). Groups under the Tides Center umbrella inherit the tax-exempt charitable status from Tides, allowing them to accept tax-deductible contributions without an IRS.

    The Tides Center has been described as an organization that “washes” away the paper trail between its grants and the original donor. Tides Founder Drummond Pike stated, “Anonymity is very important to most of the people we work with.”  Tides’ funding model allows donors to fund newly created projects anonymously through Tides and with the advantages of Tides being a nonprofit prior to the project receiving tax exempt status.

    Two of the Tide Center Projects

    The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, one of the lead organizations in the left-of-center Black Lives Matter and led by self-described “trained Marxists,” is one of the better-known groups that operates under the Tides Center’s umbrella. The Global Network Foundation began in 2016 as a project for the center-left fiscal sponsor Thousand Currents and was officially transferred to the Tides Center in July 2020. Thousand Currents’ board included Susan Rosenberg, a convicted member of the May 19th Communist Organization responsible for multiple bombings in the 1980s.

    The Arab Resources and Organizing Center (AROC) is a Palestinian Advocacy group and a financial project of the Tides Center. According to the Washington Free Beacon, AROC is “incubated” at Tides Center. In October 2023, AROC organized anti-Israeli protests and walk-outs of students within the California Bay Area, whose attendants shouted, “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.”

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  20. Front Seat Cat Member
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    100% agree – all suspicious and not a natural occurrence

     

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  21. GrannyDude Member
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    What are you talking about?

    I googled “antisemitic riots” and the only recent event that came up was a single riot the airport in Dagestan. Russia. As I understand that one, it wasn’t directed at Jews generally, but intended to be directed at Israelis, on the belief that a plane of Israelis was arriving, which wasn’t true.

    Are there other riots that you have in mind?

    It’s the wilful double plus gooding of public discourse. Or literally psychotic. I don’t know which.

    The riots are psychotic? I agree.

    By the way—I use the term “psychotic” in its technical sense. It describes a condition wherein the patient has disconnected from reality.

    The left is frequently willfully psychotic in this sense—disconnected from reality and then indignant that anyone should expect them to engage with reality, understood apparently as a white male construct, as distinct from “lived experience” which is a chick thing, I guess.

    What is horrifying is the tenacity with which the left (a category in which I include Zafar and, evidently, A.P.) clings to its delusions about the nature of Hamas even in the aftermath of 10/7. If you don’t get it now, you never will. And: God help you.

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  22. Steve C. Member
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    @user_531302

    I think we are seeing the early innings of the realization by the Democrats that it may not be so easy to dismount from the tiger they have ridden to power.

     

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  23. MarciN Member
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    @MarciN

    If the rioters are not demanding that Hamas lay down their arms and surrender to Israel, then the rioters want Hamas to win.

    That’s about as anti-Semitic as it gets.

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  24. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    What are you talking about?

    I googled “antisemitic riots” and the only recent event that came up was a single riot the airport in Dagestan. Russia. As I understand that one, it wasn’t directed at Jews generally, but intended to be directed at Israelis, on the belief that a plane of Israelis was arriving, which wasn’t true.

    Are there other riots that you have in mind?

    It’s the wilful double plus gooding of public discourse. Or literally psychotic. I don’t know which.

    The riots are psychotic? I agree.

    By the way—I use the term “psychotic” in its technical sense. It describes a condition wherein the patient has disconnected from reality.

    The left is frequently willfully psychotic in this sense—disconnected from reality and then indignant that anyone should expect them to engage with reality, understood apparently as a white male construct, as distinct from “lived experience” which is a chick thing, I guess.

    What is horrifying is the tenacity with which the left (a category in which I include Zafar and, evidently, A.P.) clings to its delusions about the nature of Hamas even in the aftermath of 10/7. If you don’t get it now, you never will. And: God help you.

    Dark Triad: Psychopathy, narcissism, Machiavellianism. And even sadism, which makes the Dark Tetrad.

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  25. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):
    Dark Triad: Psychopathy, narcissism, Machiavellianism. And even sadism, which makes the Dark Tetrad.

    See here.

    And here.

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  26. Steven Seward Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    So, still no answer pointing out any antisemitic riot, other than the anti-Israeli riot in Dagestan that I pointed out.

    I fully understand. The Israelis are slaughtering Palestinian women and children by the thousands, so there has to be a narrative to justify that action. It is interesting to see that Ricochet is almost fully on board with participation in that narrative.

    Jerry, people have simply given up trying to reason with you on anything.  That is why nobody responded to your ludicrous claim that there are no anti-semitic riots around the world.  It is considered a waste of time, similar to the attitude Ricochetti adopted with Gary Robbins.  Nobody cares about your objections or revisionist history anymore.

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  27. Jim George Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    So, still no answer pointing out any antisemitic riot, other than the anti-Israeli riot in Dagestan that I pointed out.

    I fully understand. The Israelis are slaughtering Palestinian women and children by the thousands, so there has to be a narrative to justify that action. It is interesting to see that Ricochet is almost fully on board with participation in that narrative.

    Jerry, people have simply given up trying to reason with you on anything. That is why nobody responded to your ludicrous claim that there are no anti-semitic riots around the world. It is considered a waste of time, similar to the attitude Ricochetti adopted with Gary Robbins. Nobody cares about your objections or revisionist history anymore.

    I would like to take a moment for a recognition of the level of civility characterizing the responses to this person’s constantly antagonistic and in some cases downright rude comments such as this one which defies all measures of common sense for anyone who has read one source of information in the last month. 

    I say this as someone who sometime ago decided to stop expending one more unit of the time I have left on this old orb trying to have a debate/discussion/dialogue with this person out of consideration for whatever mental health I still have. I had earlier made a similar decision about the other (erstwhile) member mentioned above. 

    I realized with both of them that it would only be a matter of time when I would place myself in violation of all of the principles of the Code of Conduct in one fell swoop so I  opted out. 

    To you who continue to be courteous and civil to this person, who is neither, I extend plaudits and admiration as you are much more patient than I would be were I still “in the game” with him, as that really is what it seems to be with this kind of person.

    Bravo/brava!

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  28. Old Bathos Moderator
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    Jim George (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    So, still no answer pointing out any antisemitic riot, other than the anti-Israeli riot in Dagestan that I pointed out.

    I fully understand. The Israelis are slaughtering Palestinian women and children by the thousands, so there has to be a narrative to justify that action. It is interesting to see that Ricochet is almost fully on board with participation in that narrative.

    Jerry, people have simply given up trying to reason with you on anything. That is why nobody responded to your ludicrous claim that there are no anti-semitic riots around the world. It is considered a waste of time, similar to the attitude Ricochetti adopted with Gary Robbins. Nobody cares about your objections or revisionist history anymore.

    I would like to take a moment for a recognition of the level of civility characterizing the responses to this person’s constantly antagonistic and in some cases downright rude comments such as this one which defies all measures of common sense for anyone who has read one source of information in the last month.

    I say this as someone who sometime ago decided to stop expending one more unit of the time I have left on this old orb trying to have a debate/discussion/dialogue with this person out of consideration for whatever mental health I still have. I had earlier made a similar decision about the other (erstwhile) member mentioned above.

    I realized with both of them that it would only be a matter of time when I would place myself in violation of all of the principles of the Code of Conduct in one fell swoop so I opted out.

    To you who continue to be courteous and civil to this person, who is neither, I extend plaudits and admiration as you are much more patient than I would be were I still “in the game” with him, as that really is what it seems to be with this kind of person.

    Bravo/brava!

    As one who once taught high school, I learned not to take the bait when encountering manifestations of oppositional/defiant syndrome. 

    I also had the honor and privilege of taking two philosophy classes at Georgetown with the incomparable Prof. Henry Veatch.  He was the only teacher I ever had (including law school) who really made use of the Socratic method.  He would begin analysis of the matter at hand by asking a question to a student picked randomly and then extract from that response a capsuled statement of a position and often name it after the student (Jones-ist or Smith-ist) as a starting point for the topic and proceed with more discussion and questions until after a few weeks you realized that no matter where we started, no matter how dumb the initial response, we always got to a full treatment of the issue and an understanding of the questions that define it.  I keep meaning to do a post about that experience…

    In any event, the Veatch approach to a repulsive comment (if any response is merited) would be to restate it as fairly as possible in the most rational light and logically proceed from there without allusion to the cognitive or characterological deficiencies that likely led to its utterance.

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  29. kedavis Coolidge
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Jim George (View Comment):

    I would like to take a moment for a recognition of the level of civility characterizing the responses to this person’s constantly antagonistic and in some cases downright rude comments such as this one which defies all measures of common sense for anyone who has read one source of information in the last month.

    I say this as someone who sometime ago decided to stop expending one more unit of the time I have left on this old orb trying to have a debate/discussion/dialogue with this person out of consideration for whatever mental health I still have. I had earlier made a similar decision about the other (erstwhile) member mentioned above.

    I realized with both of them that it would only be a matter of time when I would place myself in violation of all of the principles of the Code of Conduct in one fell swoop so I opted out.

    To you who continue to be courteous and civil to this person, who is neither, I extend plaudits and admiration as you are much more patient than I would be were I still “in the game” with him, as that really is what it seems to be with this kind of person.

    Bravo/brava!

    As one who once taught high school, I learned not to take the bait when encountering manifestations of oppositional/defiant syndrome.

    I also had the honor and privilege of taking two philosophy classes at Georgetown with the incomparable Prof. Henry Veatch. He was the only teacher I ever had (including law school) who really made use of the Socratic method. He would begin analysis of the matter at hand by asking a question to a student picked randomly and then extract from that response a capsuled statement of a position and often name it after the student (Jones-ist or Smith-ist) as a starting point for the topic and proceed with more discussion and questions until after a few weeks you realized that no matter where we started, no matter how dumb the initial response, we always got to a full treatment of the issue and an understanding of the questions that define it. I keep meaning to do a post about that experience…

    In any event, the Veatch approach to a repulsive comment (if any response is merited) would be to restate it as fairly as possible in the most rational light and logically proceed from there without allusion to the cognitive or characterological deficiencies that likely led to its utterance.

    I appreciate the… sentiment?… but that was school.  As Rob Long might put it, Ricochet isn’t supposed to be homework.

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  30. Jim George Member
    Jim George
    @JimGeorge

    @oldbathos

    As one who once taught high school, I learned not to take the bait when encountering manifestations of oppositional/defiant syndrome.

    I also had the honor and privilege of taking two philosophy classes at Georgetown with the incomparable Prof. Henry Veatch. He was the only teacher I ever had (including law school) who really made use of the Socratic method. He would begin analysis of the matter at hand by asking a question to a student picked randomly and then extract from that response a capsuled statement of a position and often name it after the student (Jones-ist or Smith-ist) as a starting point for the topic and proceed with more discussion and questions until after a few weeks you realized that no matter where we started, no matter how dumb the initial response, we always got to a full treatment of the issue and an understanding of the questions that define it. I keep meaning to do a post about that experience…

    In any event, the Veatch approach to a repulsive comment (if any response is merited) would be to restate it as fairly as possible in the most rational light and logically proceed from there without allusion to the cognitive or characterological deficiencies that likely led to its utterance.

    With apologies to Kipling, Prof. Veatch is clearly “a better man than I am, Gunga Din.”

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