Erickson and Crenshaw Dump on Vivek

 

So here’s Erick Erickson (seriously, who uses a ck for Erik — twice!?) re-tweeting Dan Crenshaw taking a dump on Vivek Rama… Ramanaga… Naganna be President anyway, and it reminded me of the early Trump days.  Maaan, you just never know.

I like having Vivek in the race because I think that his irritating presence brings something needed to the primary process. Not like he has a shot in Hell of winning — let’s be serious. But even though I don’t agree with him on a lot of things, this guy is taking the fight where it needs to go on some issues. And I absolutely adore that he called on Ronna Rino McDammit to resign for giving the GOP debate to NBC — at the GOP debate. Little bit like Newt, eh? Called out some news drone for her hoax Russia Collusion reporting. This is where the fight is!

So here come the usual suspects:

Well, anything the Eyepatch McCain hates just looks better to me.

If we fail to lay waste to the people and organizations who pushed the Russia Collusion hoax, which worked very well by the way, then we are just going to get more of it. Where is the RNC on Russia Collusion? Business-as-usual candidates do not interest me in the slightest. For one, they cannot win, because things have changed. Somebody here on the site just formulated this very well — they are living in a world that no longer exists.  (That was @lockeon, over on @DonG’s excellent thread.

So here’s this candidate who cannot win, who says things I like some of the time and adds value by saying what others won’t. I like Vivek not as an “actual” prospect, but because we’re all better off for his participation, yes, even though some of his takes I seriously do not appreciate.

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  1. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    @DonG

    Eyepatch McCain is such a disappointing midwit.   He and Erik have severe TDS and that apparently causes VDS.

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  2. Percival Thatcher
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    @Percival

    Ramaswamy’s stance with regards to our adversaries overseas seems to be “I’ll negotiate with them and fix everything right up.” That is naive.  He’s obstreperous, and it pains me to say it, but Crenshaw is right for once as far as TikTok goes.

    I see no reason to swap Vivek for Trump. I prefer DeSantis to either of them. Nikki and Tim should get a nice participation trophy. Christie deserves to be kicked all the way back to New Jersey.

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  3. The Reticulator Member
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Eyepatch McCain is such a disappointing midwit. He and Erik have severe TDS and that apparently causes VDS.

    What is an Eyepatch McCain.  I’ve never heard that name or phrase before now. 

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  4. Percival Thatcher
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Eyepatch McCain is such a disappointing midwit. He and Erik have severe TDS and that apparently causes VDS.

    What is an Eyepatch McCain. I’ve never heard that name or phrase before now.

    Rep. Dan Crenshaw. RINO-adjacent.

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Eyepatch McCain is such a disappointing midwit. He and Erik have severe TDS and that apparently causes VDS.

    What is an Eyepatch McCain. I’ve never heard that name or phrase before now.

    Rep. Dan Crenshaw. RINO-adjacent.

    Like McCain, but with an eyepatch.

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  6. Saint Augustine Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Eyepatch McCain is such a disappointing midwit. He and Erik have severe TDS and that apparently causes VDS.

    What is an Eyepatch McCain. I’ve never heard that name or phrase before now.

    Rep. Dan Crenshaw. RINO-adjacent.

    No, I’m sure that’s Star-Lord from MCU copying Thor with an eye-patch.

    Star Lord Thor GIF - Star Lord Thor Hes Trying To Copy Me - Discover &  Share GIFs

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  7. lowtech redneck Coolidge
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    While I wouldn’t vote for him in any primary*, I do like the impact he has has had on debates.

    *I prioritize domestic issues, but there’s still a limit as to how far I can tolerate foreign policies I oppose, especially when they effectively strengthen and reward anti-Semitic movements and their radical allies on the home front.

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  8. ctlaw Coolidge
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    @bdb should write a song called “The Ballad of Eyepatch McCain”. 

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  9. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    The GOPe is about the donor class. 

     

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  10. Franco Member
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    First, calling someone “scum” goes against all the norms for which they have been scolding Trump. That’s pretty strong and would rank very high in the lexicon of Trump name-calling insults if you ask me.

    Nikki Haley looks unhinged to me. Very angry and full of girl-power moxie because her big brother ( US fighting men)will beat up Russia in the schoolyard. 

    Vivek caught Nikki in a bit of hypocrisy herself and pointing out her grown and (supposedly?) empowered daughter of 25 is using the platform- not a crime, and not some moral failing- is not any kind of unfair attack in response to Nikki’s charge of hypocrisy.

    That Vivek uses a platform to advance his campaign rather than boycott it because of its corrosive effect on young people is rich coming from people who agreed to be interrogated by Lester Holt and the smug Welker on a network that makes a sport of trashing Republicans and lying about them colluding with Russia.

    This is another example of false victimhood and an overkill response. Don’t give this gal nukes. Just don’t.

    I’m sick of Republicans using the victimology of the left and playing up identity politics.

    Vivek is over the target which is why these losers are trashing him.

     

     

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  11. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):
    but Crenshaw is right for once as far as TikTok goes.

    FYI, Crenshaw’s position is that TikTok is the “ultimate psychological warfare weapon” and should be completed banned.   My position is that the USA needs to limit any Commie influence we can and it easier to ban the commie influence from China than it is to ban the commie influence from Washington, D.C.  Americans are bombarded by foreign influence:  TikTok, Al Jazeera, Fox news….

    The primary effort to ban TikTok comes from the duopoly of Google/Facebook that does not like losing advertising market share to a competitor.  We need to be very, very careful about banning competitors of duopolies. 

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  12. Franco Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Ramaswamy’s stance with regards to our adversaries overseas seems to be “I’ll negotiate with them and fix everything right up.” That is naive. He’s obstreperous, and it pains me to say it, but Crenshaw is right for once as far as TikTok goes.

    I see no reason to swap Vivek for Trump. I prefer DeSantis to either of them. Nikki and Tim should get a nice participation trophy. Christie deserves to be kicked all the way back to New Jersey.

    I think you’re spinning Vivek’s statements too hard. Maybe it’s just the context of every other Republican on that stage clamoring for war with some of the most heavily armed committed adversaries on earth, he sounds like a naive wimp.

    In fact these warmongers and deranged Putin-haters have been proven wrong about Ukraine. After 400,000 dead Ukrainians, and Zelensky no longer biggest most aggrieved victim, after hundreds of billions squandered, they will have to beg the Russians ( remember all the “Ukraine is winning” propaganda ?) for a deal. Pushing Russia and Iran and China together to avoid the sanctions was another giant failure of these warhawks.

    They could have negotiated a much better deal a year ago. Further, just a tiny bit of diplomacy, instead of iterative provocation and hostility, would have prevented all this in the first place. 

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  13. Franco Member
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    but Crenshaw is right for once as far as TikTok goes.

    FYI, Crenshaw’s position is that TikTok is the “ultimate psychological warfare weapon” and should be completed banned. My position is that the USA needs to limit any Commie influence we can and it easier to ban the commie influence from China than it is to ban the commie influence from Washington, D.C. Americans are bombarded by foreign influence: TikTok, Al Jazeera, Fox news….

    The primary effort to ban TikTok comes from the duopoly of Google/Facebook that does not like losing advertising market share to a competitor. We need to be very, very careful about banning competitors of duopolies.

    I have an idea: How about making a country use the same rules they use in their own countries for their exports? If TicToc in the US went by the same rules they set in China, I no longer see a problem.

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  14. Stad Coolidge
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    After listening to clips of Ramaswamy talking over Nikki Haley trying to respond and bringing her family into it, I’ve decided he’s a total jerk.  I’ll vote for him if he’s nominated, but I’ll be pulling a McCain (holding my nose) . . .

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  15. Percival Thatcher
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    The GOPe is about the donor class.

    Everyone needs a friend. Instead of buying dogs, some people buy politicians.

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  16. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    The GOPe is about the donor class.

    Everyone needs a friend. Instead of buying dogs, some people buy politicians.

    I’d rather have a dog. 

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  17. Franco Member
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    @Franco

    Stad (View Comment):

    After listening to clips of Ramaswamy talking over Nikki Haley trying to respond and bringing her family into it, I’ve decided he’s a total jerk. I’ll vote for him if he’s nominated, but I’ll be pulling a McCain (holding my nose) . . .

    Oh poor victim Nikki! She couldn’t ‘respond’ … I thought her heels were her ammo ? Tough gal with Putin, but poor victim of some skinny domestic rival. 

    Oh, her daughter, who is a grown woman was mentioned, and this is some kind of  crossed line? Puleeze.

    White knight decorumcons are so 2016. 

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  18. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    but Crenshaw is right for once as far as TikTok goes.

    FYI, Crenshaw’s position is that TikTok is the “ultimate psychological warfare weapon” and should be completed banned. My position is that the USA needs to limit any Commie influence we can and it easier to ban the commie influence from China than it is to ban the commie influence from Washington, D.C. Americans are bombarded by foreign influence: TikTok, Al Jazeera, Fox news….

    The primary effort to ban TikTok comes from the duopoly of Google/Facebook that does not like losing advertising market share to a competitor. We need to be very, very careful about banning competitors of duopolies.

    TikTok isn’t allowed in China. It is export-only.

    I’m agreeing with Crenshaw for once.

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    BDB: So here’s Erick Erickson (seriously, who uses a ck for Erik — twice!?)

    My guess is, since his last name was already going to be Erickson, his parents decided to avoid confusion and use that spelling for his first name too.

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  20. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    Franco (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Ramaswamy’s stance with regards to our adversaries overseas seems to be “I’ll negotiate with them and fix everything right up.” That is naive. He’s obstreperous, and it pains me to say it, but Crenshaw is right for once as far as TikTok goes.

    I see no reason to swap Vivek for Trump. I prefer DeSantis to either of them. Nikki and Tim should get a nice participation trophy. Christie deserves to be kicked all the way back to New Jersey.

    I think you’re spinning Vivek’s statements too hard. Maybe it’s just the context of every other Republican on that stage clamoring for war with some of the most heavily armed committed adversaries on earth, he sounds like a naive wimp.

    In fact these warmongers and deranged Putin-haters have been proven wrong about Ukraine. After 400,000 dead Ukrainians, and Zelensky no longer biggest most aggrieved victim, after hundreds of billions squandered, they will have to beg the Russians ( remember all the “Ukraine is winning” propaganda ?) for a deal. Pushing Russia and Iran and China together to avoid the sanctions was another giant failure of these warhawks.

    They could have negotiated a much better deal a year ago. Further, just a tiny bit of diplomacy, instead of iterative provocation and hostility, would have prevented all this in the first place.

    Do you have a source for 400,000 dead Ukrainians? Is it from the same people who told Vladimir that it would take three days and he would be hailed as a liberator in Kyiv?

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  21. BDB Coolidge
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    @BDB

    I was driving around in Florida on the weekend of the Great Muslim Day of Rage or whatever and was looking for some news.  No clue what the local stations were.  Found this guy on the radio going on and on about the history of the RSC and HFC, and how Scalise was the rat who dismantled the House Republican Study Committe, filling it with weak sisters and rendering it ineffective — which is why Jim Jordan regrouped the conservative members who were worth a damn into the House Freedom Caucus.  This handy background was immensely helpful to me understanding some of the maneuvering around the Speakership II kerfuffle. 

    And after explaining all the malfeasance of McCarthy, Scalise, the wetnurses agitating for a Democrat-run “unity” Speakership, and the general RINO losership of the whole thing, this radio host abruptly concluded that the whole thing was a product of Gaetz’ insane vendetta against McCarthy for no purpose other than a megalomaniacal Geatz’ self-aggrandizement, and Screw Gaetz.

    I was just flabbergasted.  How do you explain all that history, and then castigate the one guy who took the bit in his teeth and pulled the wagon out of the mud?  Risky, sure, but maybe we in the wagon should have just starved to death waiting for “things to get better” or something.

    It was such an abrupt turnabout by the radio host, that I figured I was listening to an unusually well-informed Democrat who had the facts right, but was seeing them as if all the bad guys were good guys, etc.  Like, shame on Jordan, and yay for Scalise bravely sabotaging the RSC and so forth, and Damn Gaetz to Hell for undoing all of that solid Democrat progress, right?    Democrats are back on talk radio?  When did that happen?

    It was Erick Erickson.

    So F that guy.

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  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    BDB (View Comment):

    I was driving around in Florida on the weekend of the Great Muslim Day of Rage or whatever and was looking for some news. No clue what the local stations were. Found this guy on the radio going on and on about the history of the RSC and HFC, and how Scalise was the rat who dismantled the House Republican Study Committe, filling it with weak sisters and rendering it ineffective — which is why Jim Jordan regrouped the conservative members who were worth a damn into the House Freedom Caucus. This handy background was immensely helpful to me understanding some of the maneuvering around the Speakership II kerfuffle.

    And after explaining all the malfeasance of McCarthy, Scalise, the wetnurses agitating for a Democrat-run “unity” Speakership, and the general RINO losership of the whole thing, this radio host abruptly concluded that the whole thing was a product of Gaetz’ insane vendetta against McCarthy for no purpose other than a megalomaniacal Geatz’ self-aggrandizement, and Screw Gaetz.

    I was just flabbergasted. How do you explain all that history, and then castigate the one guy who took the bit in his teeth and pulled the wagon out of the mud? Risky, sure, but maybe we in the wagon should have just starved to death waiting for “things to get better” or something.

    It was such an abrupt turnabout by the radio host, that I figured I was listening to an unusually well-informed Democrat who had the facts right, but was seeing them as if all the bad guys were good guys, etc. Like, shame on Jordan, and yay for Scalise bravely sabotaging the RSC and so forth, and Damn Gaetz to Hell for undoing all of that solid Democrat progress, right? Democrats are back on talk radio? When did that happen?

    It was Erick Erickson.

    So F that guy.

    I concluded earlier that Erickson was no good when he seemed to be wrong about everything involving Georgia which he was supposed to be such an expert on because of being there so long etc.

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  23. Franco Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Ramaswamy’s stance with regards to our adversaries overseas seems to be “I’ll negotiate with them and fix everything right up.” That is naive. He’s obstreperous, and it pains me to say it, but Crenshaw is right for once as far as TikTok goes.

    I see no reason to swap Vivek for Trump. I prefer DeSantis to either of them. Nikki and Tim should get a nice participation trophy. Christie deserves to be kicked all the way back to New Jersey.

    I think you’re spinning Vivek’s statements too hard. Maybe it’s just the context of every other Republican on that stage clamoring for war with some of the most heavily armed committed adversaries on earth, he sounds like a naive wimp.

    In fact these warmongers and deranged Putin-haters have been proven wrong about Ukraine. After 400,000 dead Ukrainians, and Zelensky no longer biggest most aggrieved victim, after hundreds of billions squandered, they will have to beg the Russians ( remember all the “Ukraine is winning” propaganda ?) for a deal. Pushing Russia and Iran and China together to avoid the sanctions was another giant failure of these warhawks.

    They could have negotiated a much better deal a year ago. Further, just a tiny bit of diplomacy, instead of iterative provocation and hostility, would have prevented all this in the first place.

    Do you have a source for 400,000 dead Ukrainians? Is it from the same people who told Vladimir that it would take three days and he would be hailed as a liberator in Kyiv?

    What’s your source? MSNBC? Fox News? 
    Demanding ‘sources’ immediately calls into question your naïveté of the media.

    I imagine you sit through a commercial for Pfizer, and then swallow wholesale the CNN alarmist news feed. Then you watch commercials for Boeing,  Raytheon and McDonnell Douglas, on Meet the Press (NBC) and swallow the Ukraine narrative when they come back from commercial break. You apparently reject the idea that the WaPo is a branch of the CIA. Democracy does in darkness,  and true to their mission, they are great at keeping us in the dark

    But how many dead Ukrainians are there do you know? Is it 200,000? Or maybe 100,000 but they killed more Russians right,  so that’s all good, right? 

    Zelensky will just keep sending the young men ( and now women) into WWI style horrors because Putin is a  bad man, who according to your ‘sources’ was told that Kiev would surrender. That seems to be your logic.

    If Putin believed they would surrender easily it was likely due to his misperception that Zelensky is sane and cared about his people.

    The fact remains they lost just about as much as they could lose while gaining nothing. 

     

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  24. carcat74 Member
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    Ok, moderators, since I now can’t read my comment, I can’t see the ‘rude, personal’ part. Where were you several weeks ago when I managed to get back on Ricochet after I forgot my password, and got attacked? I questioned why I even bothered making the effort to show up, it got so rough. Can you send me a copy of my comment via dm/pm? I’m not claiming I did nothing wrong, I just don’t remember the entire thing.

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  25. kedavis Coolidge
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    carcat74 (View Comment):

    Ok, moderators, since I now can’t read my comment, I can’t see the ‘rude, personal’ part. Where were you several weeks ago when I managed to get back on Ricochet after I forgot my password, and got attacked? I questioned why I even bothered making the effort to show up, it got so rough. Can you send me a copy of my comment via dm/pm? I’m not claiming I did nothing wrong, I just don’t remember the entire thing.

    It wasn’t on this post, it was on https://ricochet.com/1511509/americans-should-take-islamism-very-seriously/

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  26. The Reticulator Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Ramaswamy’s stance with regards to our adversaries overseas seems to be “I’ll negotiate with them and fix everything right up.” That is naive. He’s obstreperous, and it pains me to say it, but Crenshaw is right for once as far as TikTok goes.

    I see no reason to swap Vivek for Trump. I prefer DeSantis to either of them. Nikki and Tim should get a nice participation trophy. Christie deserves to be kicked all the way back to New Jersey.

    I think you’re spinning Vivek’s statements too hard. Maybe it’s just the context of every other Republican on that stage clamoring for war with some of the most heavily armed committed adversaries on earth, he sounds like a naive wimp.

    In fact these warmongers and deranged Putin-haters have been proven wrong about Ukraine. After 400,000 dead Ukrainians, and Zelensky no longer biggest most aggrieved victim, after hundreds of billions squandered, they will have to beg the Russians ( remember all the “Ukraine is winning” propaganda ?) for a deal. Pushing Russia and Iran and China together to avoid the sanctions was another giant failure of these warhawks.

    They could have negotiated a much better deal a year ago. Further, just a tiny bit of diplomacy, instead of iterative provocation and hostility, would have prevented all this in the first place.

    Do you have a source for 400,000 dead Ukrainians? Is it from the same people who told Vladimir that it would take three days and he would be hailed as a liberator in Kyiv?

    Wikipedia says 500,000 dead Ukrainians. I’d think it would be more like 7,000,000 if you count the deaths of the all the Ukrainians who have died since the war began in 2014.  (Based on an annual death rate of around 14 per 1000 according to U.N. estimates, and a total population of 50,000,000.)

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  27. db25db Coolidge
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Eyepatch McCain is such a disappointing midwit. He and Erik have severe TDS and that apparently causes VDS.

    Erick has TDS?  Clearly you dont listen to him.  guy walks on eggshells around Trump voters.

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  28. db25db Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    The GOPe is about the donor class.

     

    how brilliant

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  29. Ed G. Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    After listening to clips of Ramaswamy talking over Nikki Haley trying to respond and bringing her family into it, I’ve decided he’s a total jerk. I’ll vote for him if he’s nominated, but I’ll be pulling a McCain (holding my nose) . . .

    Stad, she did the same talking over him in the first debate. In fact they all do it, but Haley does it often. As for bringing her family into it, she took the cheap shots first and he responded this time by pointing out her personal hypocrisy. 

    It was more about Nikki than about her family.  

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  30. Ed G. Member
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    Percival (View Comment):
    Ramaswamy’s stance with regards to our adversaries overseas seems to be “I’ll negotiate with them and fix everything right up.” That is naive. 

    I’ve listened to Vivek quite a bit, and I don’t understand where you get that impression. He’s more speak softly while carrying a big stick; we’re not the world’s policeman (and can’t be even if we wanted to); hit us and we’ll hit back harder. Yes, realistic diplomacy and negotiaion is part of it, as it must be. 

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