The Unreasonable Party Always Wins: Israel and Gaza

 

The only paid job I have ever had was teaching teenage girls how to lie. The High School in question called it “Model UN,” but I ran it like my own little fiefdom in which I dispensed wisdom and argued with students with reckless abandon.

One of the axioms I taught is that, in any brokered settlement, “The Unreasonable Party Always Wins.” This sticks in the craw, but it is true. Here are a few examples:

Imagine there are 12 matchsticks. A teacher tells two students to divide the sticks between them. The reasonable student suggests a 6/6 split. The unreasonable student claims victimhood of some kind, and says she needs all 12.

The teacher/arbiter comes in, and splits the difference! Halfway between 6 and 12 is 9, so 9 sticks go to the unreasonable party, and 3 to the reasonable party. Voila!

The very same thing happens in EVERY brokered settlement. Consider divorce: the party with the most hard-line demands wins, almost every time.

In sports, the referees end up being pushed around by the more physically aggressive team, so more fouls are called on the “nicer” team. Double standards are the net result, necessarily and every time.

Which brings us to Gaza. Hamas wants to kill all the Jews. Israel wants Hamas to stop killing Jews. So the brokered agreement, should there be one, would be to only kill half the Jews. Isn’t that only fair?

This inherent feature explains why the Arab instinctively know they should never, ever, back down from the most outrageous demands they can make. If anyone can impose a settlement, the Arabs will have moved the needle far away from any actual reasonable position.

The only way the reasonable party wins is to simply refuse to discuss the issue. Reject all intermediaries or judges or referees. In other words: make sure the situation is not brokered. Israel must do what it needs to do to end the threat to its own existence. And Israel must totally ignore the United Nations, a body that is somehow given legitimization as a democratic body, even though most of its own members came to power by ruthlessly murdering their opponents. There is no moral authority in the United Nations. Might should not Make Right, and Righteousness is not subject to majority approval.

Israel must hold absolutely firm to its position, and it must refuse all offers of “referees.”

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  1. Percival Thatcher
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Hamas Official Mousa Abu Marzouk: The Tunnels in Gaza Were Built to Protect Hamas Fighters, Not Civilians; Protecting Gaza Civilians Is the Responsibility of the U.N. and Israel:

     

    So, if protecting Gaza civilians is the responsibility of the Israelis, does that mean that protecting Israeli civilians is the responsibility of the Palestinians? Did Hamas fail in its duty to protect Israeli civilians on Oct 7?

    Does this guy think that he’s making any sense at all? How does he say such absurd stuff without giggling?

    Since the civilians aren’t the responsibility of Hamas, they should welcome the evacuation of those civilians and in no way hinder it, right? Indeed, they should facilitate such an event. Not having civilians for whom they bear no responsibility can only hinder their heroic efforts to defend Gaza.

    Either that, or they cower and snivel behind skirts and tots.

    What would Saladin say?

    Well, for one thing, Saladin was a Kurd whose honor would be besmirched by even acknowledging this contemptible rabble.

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  2. Globalitarian Misanthropist Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Hamas Official Mousa Abu Marzouk: The Tunnels in Gaza Were Built to Protect Hamas Fighters, Not Civilians; Protecting Gaza Civilians Is the Responsibility of the U.N. and Israel:

    So, if protecting Gaza civilians is the responsibility of the Israelis, does that mean that protecting Israeli civilians is the responsibility of the Palestinians? Did Hamas fail in its duty to protect Israeli civilians on Oct 7?

    Does this guy think that he’s making any sense at all? How does he say such absurd stuff without giggling?

    I think after much back and forth a Ricochet member finally admitted that there was a double standard here.  He never did clearly answer if this was morally right or wrong.

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  3. GrannyDude Member
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    I was thinking about this post, iWe, when I read about British police officers removing posters of Hamas’ hostages in the interests of preserving community peace.  Meanwhile, it seems, community peace is not disrupted by, say, shouting anti-Israel slogans, or hanging Palestinian flags on the lamp posts.

    Sadly, the British cops are probably right. A pro-Palestinian display, or the removal of a proi-Israel one,  will not provoke British Jews and their supporters into a violent riot.

    British Muslims, on the other hand, have been known to freak out when offended. British police, tasked with preserving the illusion of peaceful multi-culti tranquility, long ago handed the rioters’ veto to the oh-so-sensitive Muslims, and expect everyone else to just take their lumps without protest. 

     

     

     

     

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  4. Percival Thatcher
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    I was thinking about this post, iWe, when I read about British police officers removing posters of Hamas’ hostages in the interests of preserving community peace. Meanwhile, it seems, community peace is not disrupted by, say, shouting anti-Israel slogans, or hanging Palestinian flags on the lamp posts.

    Sadly, the British cops are probably right. A pro-Palestinian display, or the removal of a proi-Israel one, will not provoke British Jews and their supporters into a violent riot.

    British Muslims, on the other hand, have been known to freak out when offended. British police, tasked with preserving the illusion of peaceful multi-culti tranquility, long ago handed the rioters’ veto to the oh-so-sensitive Muslims, and expect everyone else to just take their lumps without protest.

     

     

     

     

    That means the cops have surrendered already.

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  5. Zafar Member
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    I was thinking about this post, iWe, when I read about British police officers removing posters of Hamas’ hostages in the interests of preserving community peace. Meanwhile, it seems, community peace is not disrupted by, say, shouting anti-Israel slogans, or hanging Palestinian flags on the lamp posts.

    Actually:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/israel-palestine-flag-suella-braverman-b2427411.html

    My understanding is that the police do act on this, when they are able – but in cases of mass disobedience they may not be.  Like with the poll tax in the past, what we’re they going to do, lock up Scotland?

     

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  6. Miffed White Male Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    I was thinking about this post, iWe, when I read about British police officers removing posters of Hamas’ hostages in the interests of preserving community peace. Meanwhile, it seems, community peace is not disrupted by, say, shouting anti-Israel slogans, or hanging Palestinian flags on the lamp posts.

    Actually:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/israel-palestine-flag-suella-braverman-b2427411.html

    My understanding is that the police do act on this, when they are able – but in cases of mass disobedience they may not be. Like with the poll tax in the past, what we’re they going to do, lock up Scotland?

     

    If that’s what it takes, yes.

     

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  7. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    I was thinking about this post, iWe, when I read about British police officers removing posters of Hamas’ hostages in the interests of preserving community peace. Meanwhile, it seems, community peace is not disrupted by, say, shouting anti-Israel slogans, or hanging Palestinian flags on the lamp posts.

    Actually:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/israel-palestine-flag-suella-braverman-b2427411.html

    My understanding is that the police do act on this, when they are able – but in cases of mass disobedience they may not be. Like with the poll tax in the past, what we’re they going to do, lock up Scotland?

    If that’s what it takes, yes.

    Numerous Muslim countries forcibly expelled their Jewish citizens, and extremely few Muslims will admit that there was anything wrong with that, much less that it was an injustice which requires rectification. There is no moral reason to refrain from taking the Muslim example and expelling all the islamo-fascists from the UK.

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  8. Miffed White Male Member
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    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    I was thinking about this post, iWe, when I read about British police officers removing posters of Hamas’ hostages in the interests of preserving community peace. Meanwhile, it seems, community peace is not disrupted by, say, shouting anti-Israel slogans, or hanging Palestinian flags on the lamp posts.

    Actually:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/israel-palestine-flag-suella-braverman-b2427411.html

    My understanding is that the police do act on this, when they are able – but in cases of mass disobedience they may not be. Like with the poll tax in the past, what we’re they going to do, lock up Scotland?

    If that’s what it takes, yes.

    Numerous Muslim countries forcibly expelled their Jewish citizens, and extremely few Muslims will admit that there was anything wrong with that, much less that it was an injustice which requires rectification. There is no moral reason to refrain from taking the Muslim example and expelling all the islamo-fascists from the UK.

    “Where are your Jews?”

    https://unwatch.org/algeria-jews-hillel-neuer-u-n-human-rights-council/

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  9. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    “Where are your Jews?”

    https://unwatch.org/algeria-jews-hillel-neuer-u-n-human-rights-council/

    That’s a great article/speech, MWM!

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  10. GrannyDude Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    I was thinking about this post, iWe, when I read about British police officers removing posters of Hamas’ hostages in the interests of preserving community peace. Meanwhile, it seems, community peace is not disrupted by, say, shouting anti-Israel slogans, or hanging Palestinian flags on the lamp posts.

    Actually:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/israel-palestine-flag-suella-braverman-b2427411.html

    My understanding is that the police do act on this, when they are able – but in cases of mass disobedience they may not be. Like with the poll tax in the past, what we’re they going to do, lock up Scotland?

     

    If we’re talking “root causes” (as some are fond of doing) the answer would have been to refrain from importing the disobedient mass. 

    Since that wise advice (from many quarters all along) was not heeded, is it now racist to point out that the just-as-French-as-The-French Muslims have succeeded in imposing a national ban on insulting Islam? Even as the just-as-Danish-as-The-Danes are no longer allowed to burn a Koran? (American flags, yes. Israeli flags, yes. Bibles, sure. Freedom of speech! Unless your speech pisses off the Muslims.)

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    As I’ve noted elsewhere/in the past, historically it seems that the only solution any country has found to the muslim problem, is expulsion.

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  12. Paul Stinchfield Member
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  13. Henry Castaigne Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    As I’ve noted elsewhere/in the past, historically it seems that the only solution any country has found to the muslim problem, is expulsion.

    I would be fine with having them convert to Christianity or Buddhism or another religion that isn’t very violent. They can’t be Islamo-fascists if they give up Islam.

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  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    As I’ve noted elsewhere/in the past, historically it seems that the only solution any country has found to the muslim problem, is expulsion.

    I would be fine with having them convert to Christianity or Buddhism or another religion that isn’t very violent. They can’t be Islamo-fascists if they give up Islam.

    Well sure, if they gave up islam they would no longer need to be expelled.  At least, if they can be believed.

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  15. Henry Castaigne Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    As I’ve noted elsewhere/in the past, historically it seems that the only solution any country has found to the muslim problem, is expulsion.

    I would be fine with having them convert to Christianity or Buddhism or another religion that isn’t very violent. They can’t be Islamo-fascists if they give up Islam.

    Well sure, if they gave up islam they would no longer need to be expelled. At least, if they can be believed.

    I don’t want to do this with any other religion but America can make peace with every other religion but Islam. 

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