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Message to GOPers: Words Are Not Actions
DeSantis wrote in a Wednesday post on X that “it is absurd that anyone, much less someone running for President, would choose now to attack our friend and ally, Israel, much less praise Hezbollah terrorists as ‘very smart.'”
In a recent BDB post (who is on fire of late) crystallized a vague concept I had about the legacy GOP and their over-reliance on political debate as a substitute for achieving results. I mean that quite literally.
It doesn’t really matter what we do, it only matters what we say out loud, lest someone get the wrong ideas in their pretty little heads.
I have often read on these very pages on Ricochet and elsewhere, how Trump should be more careful about how he says things because the media and Democrats will pounce on the wrong interpretation.
This in itself is laughable because these people are entirely capable of making any statement into any absurd meaning they wish.
Further, the fear GOP candidates have of being misconstrued (usually with deliberate intent) turns their statements into mild pablum, full of platitudes and devoid of strength and impact.
This is why Romney lost, and why so many GOPers fail.
Then, these very same pols who have failed to gain higher office, or failed to keep their weasel-ly promises while serving in office, gleefully join the attacks on DJT for being insufficiently vague and nuanced in his speech.
The statement from Ron DeSantis is despicable and clearly desperate. But desperation should not mitigate the reprehensible conclusion that Trump is “attack(ing) Israel” by saying these words.
Apparently Trumps actions are to be completely ignored, and his latest ‘words’, badly misinterpreted, should define his entire being.
(This, by the way, dismisses the amazing accomplishments Trump made on behalf of Israel to include the bold action to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem, the Abraham accords, and granting his Jewish son-in-law close advisory position and more)
As to the substance, or lack thereof, to the charge that referring to someone being “smart” is ‘praise’ well, I fail to see that logic, and it scares me if DeSantis actually believes we should never regard our mortal enemies as being smart, cunning or resilient. He wants to be Commander-in Chief?
On the second level, does DeSantis believe this absurd attack will help his chances?
That’s not very smart, Ron.
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This is why I abhor the MSM, and lose respect for those who believe citing some reporter’s perspective, characterizations and conclusions means anything.
Notice how many words Trump uttered that were actually quotes in this account.
Total: FIVE
The rest is the reporters own opinion and framing. Trump “boasted” “faulted” and “criticized”. In fairness, it wasn’t as bad as most of opinion disguised as reporting. But what’s wrong with quoting longer passages? Is it the price of paper and ink? Not anymore… so what’s the excuse?
The WSJ is clearly on the DeSantis shortbus. The entire world has chosen sides.
I don’t think we have much time to be reserved in our leaders remarks. Bibi, by the way is not especially popular in Israel, and leaders should always expect criticism and be held to account. When 9/11 hit us shouldn’t our Intel agencies have been faulted- immediately?
But DeSantis told a giant lie and he should be held to account. Trump never criticized Israel. Or as DeSantis phrased it “attack(ed) Israel”. That’s a blatant lie and not fair game. I guess when he critiques Biden he’s “attacking” the USA???
Because they’re Only Trumpers. It doesn’t matter who the other options are.
Please do not yell. We get that you don’t care for Trump, but yelling makes Ricochet look like a bunch of fruitcakes.
I’d invite you to consider other explanations. I, for one, have reasons for thinking DeSantis’ Presidential Run was mistimed and ill-advised. Your explanation certainly does not reflect my position.
She can’t , she has a template in her head . That Template gets pulled out on any thread about or including Trump. Full Stop !
Now that you cite it, it’s interesting to me. I’m used to being yelled at from a young age and I barely notice when it occurs and doesn’t offend me.
He has a very strong opinion. But he cannot know the facts. Between the media the courts … it’s all political.
I can’t say he’s wrong. But but he is sure I’m wrong. I can’t understand how he is so sure of his information.
To believe so strongly. It could be th
All I can do is put forward my position. I hope at least that reasonable folks who disagree with it will accept it’s not because I’m a blind follower in a cult of personality.
There are a lot of things making Ricochet look like a bunch of fruitcakes lately. Yelling ain’t one of them
The idea that commenters can make a web forum “look bad” is indicative of the entire legacy GOP. How do these dolts let themselves be bullied so easily?
Who cares what they think!
Look up the word “analogy”.
This is another reason why I like DeSantis. Nobody is owed the nomination. I don’t like it when Karl Rove makes the argument that we should unite behind the anointed candidate of the GOPe, and I don’t like it when Trump supporters make it. Let the candidates fight it out.
I don’t think Trump supporters are so petty that they would hold that against DeSantis in the future.
I know of no reason to believe that.
I know of no reason to think that that would have been a better way to do it.
Alright then, here is the full transcript: https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speaks-at-campaign-event-in-derry-new-hampshire-transcript.
I always check sources but Trump’s speeches are so long and rambling that it isn’t always easy. But I listened to the part of the speech (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JGZoA3nr5U at 42 min approximately) that the reporter quotes and he is accurate. Trump did say that Netanyahu let us down by backing out of the strike on Soleimani at the last minute and that it was a very terrible thing – and then went on to say that Netanyahu then took credit for it which didn’t make him feel too good.
Yes, it was a small part of a very long speech, but the rest of the speech was similar: all about Trump. But the attack was so horrific, it wasn’t the time for making it all about him.
His remark about Hezbollah being smart earlier in the speech didn’t bother me – adversaries can be smart. But neither did it bother me that his political rivals pounced on it. Because he did say it and he acknowledged that people would get upset about it. And they did.
If a candidate is too fragile to deal with opposition in his own party, he’s probably too fragile everywhere else, too.
You’re forgetting arranged marriages. A lot of people say they didn’t love Trump, didn’t like Trump, didn’t want to vote for him, but had to for other reasons.
Thanks. I think I actually saw that speech. As I remember it, he wasn’t angry, or sarcastic, or hand-wringing; he was just stating something factually. Don’t remember what the context was, but Trump often makes asides, both critical and in praise.
Okay. I wanted to correct MWM’s thoughtless misstatement but thought, Why bother. But since you made it personal, I’m sure, this is mindless, emotionally satisfying, gossiping bull. You don’t have any idea how smart Trump is, or what kind of smarts you’re comparing.
Yes, DeSantis is an up-from-nothing Harvard grad near top of his class He was a great governor. By this standard and only this standard (which is a pretty high bar) he is very smart. And he has committed no impropriety.
But Trump inherited what? A million? Some say 10 million? And he turned it into a Billion. Some say 2.9 million. Trump says 10 billion. Even if it was just one billion, by this and only this standard (which is a high bar) he is very smart. And this was without any financial scandal. His worst enemies can’t find any impropriety (despite this financial kangaroo court going on right now).
He has accomplished far more that DeSantis. But he’s had more time to do it so far. But what will DeSantis ever accomplish? He’ll become president of the United States. That’s an extremely high bar.
But Trump has already done this. And without any political experience. And without any help from mega-donors or a fawning (or even a fair) press and despite a real-world CIA campaign to thwart him. (He lost his second election and even that’s a matter of dispute.)
Trump shoots off his mouth, and people like it — enough people to vote for him. DeSantis shoots off his mouth, and there is no way to explain it — and it turns people off, including DeSantis’ mega-donors.
Who’s smarter? It’s hard to say. But I’d say, in a real-world game of chess? — to the social, political and financial death? — to accomplish conservative goals? — to be president? — I think Trump’s already won this one. And would do it again.
And I don’t think DeSantis stands a chance against Newsom.
Yeah, you’d think he’s running for president or something. And least he’s never to my recollection referred to himself out of the blue in the third person. Neither has DeSantis, and good for him, but it takes a narcissist or a high degree of personality dissociation to do that habitually.
Is shouting now allowed for employees but not allowed for members?
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I’d vote for DeSantis in the general. I think most Trump supporters would.
I guess for some people, they’ll only vote for someone they’d marry. Not me. I vote for someone to do the proper job.
DeSantis would wipe the floor with Newsome. So there.
I don’t intend to argue the point too much here, since this is just my reading of the situation. However, it is my answer to why a Trump supporter might have an issue with DeSantis, though I qualify that my issue is not with DeSantis himself and more with the timing of his run and my suspicions about the motives of those advising him. It seems clear to me that DeSantis was floated as the “Reasonable” alternative in a bid to knock Trump out of the running. It’s a classic divide and conquer strategy to destroy the populist movement, just like what happened to the Tea Party.
Would you apply this same rule to McCarthy?
Bob Dole says, “Bob Dole agrees and that is something that Bob Dole would never do.”
If he acted like a delicate snowflake, sure.
I don’t know why it seems that anybody floated DeSantis.
That’s fair. If you aren’t an Only Trumper, and you have actual, sound reasons for your decisions, great.
The more you express your hate for Trump voters, the more I want to become one of these “Only Trumpers” just to spite you. I keep trying to find grace for you but you keep making these stupid insults. Maybe dial your hate down a few notches? Or should I just stop expecting better?