January 6, You Say?

 

Brief hit.  Here’s a clip on Twitter with some editorializing on McCarthy not releasing all the J6 tapes — which he did agree to.  A thought of mine before and after.  What do you want to bet that the Trump supporters in ballcaps and streetclothes who oppose the window-breaking are in more trouble than the helmet-wearing “Trump supporters” who are intent on breaking windows?

Note how nobody with the power actually seems interested in releasing all of the video.  In my mind’s eye, I see a newly powerful person being given a briefing so shocking that to release the whole thing would prove a government set-up from the start, and the newly powerful person comes to the same conclusion as those before — “we cannot release the video, and we cannot say why.”  The people would toss the whole damned government out.

I have little option other than to believe that seeing enough of the video will just show a smoking gun to an already dissatisfied public.  The shameful J6 committee and so forth were able to gather a great deal of material, much of which has been destroyed, I recall reading somewhere.  This would fit the time-honored pattern that the investigation is the cover-up.

The clip above shows a small part of a story that I would like to know a lot more about.

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    BDB: The people would toss the whole damned government out.

    Naw, there are a lot of people who would believe it no matter what.  Like the people who still believe “Russiagate” etc.

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  2. Percival Thatcher
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    BDB: Note how nobody with the power actually seems interested in releasing all of the video.  In my mind’s eye I see a newly powerful person being given a briefing so shocking that to release the whole thing would prove a government set-up from the start, and the newly powerful person comes to the same conclusion as those before — “we cannot release the video, and we cannot say why.”  The people would toss the whole damned government out.

    Let it be so.

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  3. BDB Inactive
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    Trump won.   That’s what’s at the bottom of this.  

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  4. Saint Augustine Member
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    BDB (View Comment):

    Trump won. That’s what’s at the bottom of this.

    And above all we must not be allowed to think so, or even to ask about the possibility. Shut up, peasant–don’t question the workings of a democracy!

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  5. JoelB Member
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    what ever happened to Tucker? What does he have?

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  6. The Scarecrow Thatcher
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    What could possibly be a defensible reason for the committee destroying so much – or any – of their paperwork and records from their investigation and hearings? Did they ever offer a reason? Were they ever asked or challenged?

    If this is such a huge event, it only seems reasonable – actually, imperative – that as much documentation as possible is preserved for future study and analysis; who gave the order to destroy the evidence?

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  7. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    The false flag lie must be protected.   Releasing all the video won’t change the narrative much, but it will help some specific defendants.   The real crime is Pelosi ignoring the intelligence and lowering the security level then working to promote lies about the event.  

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  8. BDB Inactive
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    The false flag lie must be protected. Releasing all the video won’t change the narrative much, but it will help some specific defendants. The real crime is Pelosi ignoring the intelligence and lowering the security level then working to promote lies about the event.

    What if the footage shows a concerted plan to open doors, invite in, guide to specific locations, and finally “fend off” the “insurrection”?  What if it shows *particular* people doing this, whose group identity (particular security force) points to (say) Bowser and Pelosi working to hurl peasants against other security forces not in on the plan?

    I don’t mean to go nuclear on a bunch of what ifs, but these speculations are good fits not only for data we don’t have (conSpiRaCy style), but also for data we do have.

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  9. DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue 🚫 Banned
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    BDB: Note how nobody with the power actually seems interested in releasing all of the video.  In my mind’s eye I see a newly powerful person being given a briefing so shocking that to release the whole thing would prove a government set-up from the start, and the newly powerful person comes to the same conclusion as those before — “we cannot release the video, and we cannot say why.”  The people would toss the whole damned government out.

    If the general public — voters from both parties — knew the depth of corruption in Washington, we’d have a revolution. We only know a small portion of it. If we knew it all, it would likely be the end of the Republic.

    Nevertheless, let it all out. Let’s see the depth of corruption and depravity in our government. Reveal it all.

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  10. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue (View Comment):
    If the general public — voters from both parties — knew the depth of corruption in Washington, we’d have a revolution. We only know a small portion of it. If we knew it all, it would likely be the end of the Republic.

    Do you really think the mask-wearing sheeple are going to rise up?   Most Americans get a check from govt. and are unlikely to bite the hand that feeds them.    All revealed corruption will be justified in the minds of the sheeple.

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  11. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    BDB (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    The false flag lie must be protected. Releasing all the video won’t change the narrative much, but it will help some specific defendants. The real crime is Pelosi ignoring the intelligence and lowering the security level then working to promote lies about the event.

    What if the footage shows a concerted plan to open doors, invite in, guide to specific locations, and finally “fend off” the “insurrection”? What if it shows *particular* people doing this, whose group identity (particular security force) points to (say) Bowser and Pelosi working to hurl peasants against other security forces not in on the plan?

    I don’t mean to go nuclear on a bunch of what ifs, but these speculations are good fits not only for data we don’t have (conSpiRaCy style), but also for data we do have.

    That’s a lot of “ifs” :)  In the end, we’ll find out that fire doors open automatically (no pulling fire alarm required).  Most people were wandering lost, but still lots of people pushing their way past cops.   Surely cops made a lot of mistakes (eg, firing flash bangs into crowds and pepper spray onto other cops) and freeing the video will embarrass the Capitol Police.   All the really treasonous stuff was done by Pelosi and head of the Capitol Police and we’ll never see that on video.   The best way prevent a debate during the vote counting is to have a breach. 

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  12. The Reticulator Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue (View Comment):

    BDB: Note how nobody with the power actually seems interested in releasing all of the video. In my mind’s eye I see a newly powerful person being given a briefing so shocking that to release the whole thing would prove a government set-up from the start, and the newly powerful person comes to the same conclusion as those before — “we cannot release the video, and we cannot say why.” The people would toss the whole damned government out.

    If the general public — voters from both parties — knew the depth of corruption in Washington, we’d have a revolution. We only know a small portion of it. If we knew it all, it would likely be the end of the Republic.

    Nevertheless, let it all out. Let’s see the depth of corruption and depravity in our government. Reveal it all.

    I’ll be happy when you understand the depth of corruption. That would be a good start. 

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  13. BDB Inactive
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue (View Comment):

    BDB: Note how nobody with the power actually seems interested in releasing all of the video. In my mind’s eye I see a newly powerful person being given a briefing so shocking that to release the whole thing would prove a government set-up from the start, and the newly powerful person comes to the same conclusion as those before — “we cannot release the video, and we cannot say why.” The people would toss the whole damned government out.

    If the general public — voters from both parties — knew the depth of corruption in Washington, we’d have a revolution. We only know a small portion of it. If we knew it all, it would likely be the end of the Republic.

    Nevertheless, let it all out. Let’s see the depth of corruption and depravity in our government. Reveal it all.

    I’ll be happy when you understand the depth of corruption. That would be a good start.

    That’s such an odd remark that I’d say it bears expansion.

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  14. DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue 🚫 Banned
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    BDB (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue (View Comment):

    BDB: Note how nobody with the power actually seems interested in releasing all of the video. In my mind’s eye I see a newly powerful person being given a briefing so shocking that to release the whole thing would prove a government set-up from the start, and the newly powerful person comes to the same conclusion as those before — “we cannot release the video, and we cannot say why.” The people would toss the whole damned government out.

    If the general public — voters from both parties — knew the depth of corruption in Washington, we’d have a revolution. We only know a small portion of it. If we knew it all, it would likely be the end of the Republic.

    Nevertheless, let it all out. Let’s see the depth of corruption and depravity in our government. Reveal it all.

    I’ll be happy when you understand the depth of corruption. That would be a good start.

    That’s such an odd remark that I’d say it bears expansion.

    Or not. It’s just another one of Ret’s many weird insults he tosses at me. He’s got some personal animosity toward me that I can’t figure out, but I am really tired of it.

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  15. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    You think any of this is not known by the Left or it’s governments?  Truth no longer matters.  From the left it is now make up justices to eliminate anybody that is not an extreme Leftist.  The next question is how many will end up going to jail for voting against Leftist.  It may be best to sit the election out or vote for them to live longer.

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  16. Nanocelt TheContrarian Member
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    Given that it has taken 60 years for even the tidbit of information that the magic bullet was placed on Conalley’s guerney by a Secret Service agent—underscoring that the whole Warren report was a gaslighting effort—don’t hold your breath on full information coming out on J6—ever.

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  17. EJHill Staff
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    Let’s review some things about the J6 video:

    There are no physical tapes. They are video files which reside on servers of the Capitol Hill Police. I have no knowledge of whether or not they use a proprietary codec. It wouldn’t surprise me because the nature of the system. Why does that make a difference? Well, it prevents theft. Even if someone were to copy the files they wouldn’t have the capability of viewing it.

    Staffers for the J6 Committee viewed the tapes and then had to wait until the CHPD to provide them with copies. When Tucker Carlson’s producers were given access by Speaker McCarthy they chose to concentrate on accessing the same footage as the committee. (There are hundreds and hundreds of hours of video that shows absolutely nothing.) Again, they had to rely CHDP to provide copies. There were some disputes about security details and protocols and Tucker’s people had to agree to some redactions.

    Any idea that CHPD was just going to make copies of this footage and provide it to anyone who asked was a fantasy from the get-go. 

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  18. Saint Augustine Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):
    Any idea that CHPD was just going to make copies of this footage and provide it to anyone who asked was a fantasy from the get-go.

    I wasn’t hoping for anyone. I was hoping for the House of Representatives to ask for it.

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  19. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    Any idea that CHPD was just going to make copies of this footage and provide it to anyone who asked was a fantasy from the get-go.

    I wasn’t hoping for anyone. I was hoping for the House of Representatives to ask for it.

    Yeah. Like is their right

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  20. Globalitarian Misanthropist Coolidge
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    Any idea that CHPD was just going to make copies of this footage and provide it to anyone who asked was a fantasy from the get-go.

    I wasn’t hoping for anyone. I was hoping for the House of Representatives to ask for it.

    Ah.  The old falsely-assumed alternatives mistake.  :)

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  21. BDB Inactive
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    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    Any idea that CHPD was just going to make copies of this footage and provide it to anyone who asked was a fantasy from the get-go.

    I wasn’t hoping for anyone. I was hoping for the House of Representatives to ask for it.

    Ah. The old falsely-assumed alternatives mistake. :)

    I had hoped they would turn over the originals, on reel-to-reel.

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  22. The Reticulator Member
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    BDB (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue (View Comment):

    BDB: Note how nobody with the power actually seems interested in releasing all of the video. In my mind’s eye I see a newly powerful person being given a briefing so shocking that to release the whole thing would prove a government set-up from the start, and the newly powerful person comes to the same conclusion as those before — “we cannot release the video, and we cannot say why.” The people would toss the whole damned government out.

    If the general public — voters from both parties — knew the depth of corruption in Washington, we’d have a revolution. We only know a small portion of it. If we knew it all, it would likely be the end of the Republic.

    Nevertheless, let it all out. Let’s see the depth of corruption and depravity in our government. Reveal it all.

    I’ll be happy when you understand the depth of corruption. That would be a good start.

    That’s such an odd remark that I’d say it bears expansion.

    Yes, it is odd.  Drew’s naïveté about the deep state has surprised and disappointed me at times.  If I understand his remarks properly, he thinks the strings are pulled from a relatively small cabal, while others of us see it as a more deeply entrenched problem.  

    I would be happy to be proven wrong. 

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  23. BDB Inactive
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue (View Comment):

    BDB: Note how nobody with the power actually seems interested in releasing all of the video. In my mind’s eye I see a newly powerful person being given a briefing so shocking that to release the whole thing would prove a government set-up from the start, and the newly powerful person comes to the same conclusion as those before — “we cannot release the video, and we cannot say why.” The people would toss the whole damned government out.

    If the general public — voters from both parties — knew the depth of corruption in Washington, we’d have a revolution. We only know a small portion of it. If we knew it all, it would likely be the end of the Republic.

    Nevertheless, let it all out. Let’s see the depth of corruption and depravity in our government. Reveal it all.

    I’ll be happy when you understand the depth of corruption. That would be a good start.

    That’s such an odd remark that I’d say it bears expansion.

    Yes, it is odd. Drew’s naïveté about the deep state has surprised and disappointed me at times. If I understand his remarks properly, he thinks the strings are pulled from a relatively small cabal, while others of us see it as a more deeply entrenched problem.

    I would be happy to be proven wrong.

    Well, I would think that we all agree it needs more looking than it’s getting.

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  24. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    he thinks the strings are pulled from a relatively small cabal, while others of us see it as a more deeply entrenched problem.  

    I think it is both.  Obama worked to put like-minded corrupt Leftists throughout government.   Those corrupt Leftists beget many more until there was culture of corrupt Leftism.   Those many Leftists instinctively know how to look for signals on what to say and do like a flock of geese “knows” how to follow their leader in a V formation.   Sometimes there is a memo saying that Climate Change is the greatest threat and all agencies shall fight it.  Sometimes there is a Tweet saying anti-vaxers are racist.  The million minions follow along.

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