Iran, Joe Biden, and World War III

 

As I follow the thoughtful discussions about the war in Israel here on Ricochet, I can’t figure out why more people are not speaking about Iran. Maybe the reason is that the complexities of the situation are difficult to manage. Or maybe the future looks so dismal that people are afraid to face the truth. Not like I’m a purveyor of truth! But I wouldn’t be quite so alarmed if I believed we were talking about how dangerous Iran truly is.

In researching Iran’s power, the facts are alarming. We talk about the Iranian proxies, but I never realized the pervasiveness of their power. Not only is Hamas serving them, but Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and hundreds of leaders are guiding multiple terrorist organizations within those countries. This graphic gives you a quick look at their influence.

When I see this data, I want to ask Joe Biden, what in the world are you doing? You are soft-pedaling your comments for Iran, trying to maintain a relationship with them, for what possible purpose? Are you still harboring hopes of an Iran deal? Do you really want Iran to be the leader of the Middle East? Do you believe that they will allow for the country of Israel to exist?

Joe Biden must condemn Iran for their actions and intentions. He must demand that they stop supplying at least Hamas and Hezbollah, who present an immediate danger, not just to Israel, but to the entire Middle East. He must stop funds from being returned to them. He must impose and enforce new sanctions. Doesn’t Biden realize that Iran will do almost anything to any people or any country to rid the world, not only of Israel, but of Jews? Doesn’t he understand that ultimately Iran wants to conquer the world—and that ultimately means the United States, too? Doesn’t he understand that Iran is governed by a primitive and deadly belief system that can be applied against the world?

Do not misunderstand me. I don’t want to engage in a war in the Middle East. I agree with supplying Israel with the arms that they need. But how long do you think Iran will allow that to happen? Those weapons ultimately will be used against Hamas, and could be used against Iran and its proxies. Now the experts are speaking not only of a second front in the North of Gaza, but a third front in the West Bank that harbors Hamas and receives funding from Iran. (We can be grateful so far that Iran is giving the West Bank funds and not sophisticated weapons.)

Congress must do more to demand that Biden condemn Iran. If it doesn’t, we will be drawn into a third world war, and our own survival may be at stake.

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  1. philo Member
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    It may be that some of us are just quietly watching – as in holding our breath- as the chess pieces are being maneuvered into place on the bigger board.  

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  2. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    philo (View Comment):

    It may be that some of us are just quietly watching – as in holding our breath- as the chess pieces are being maneuvered into place on the bigger board.

    I envy your self-control, philo. Keeping my mouth shut has never been my strong suit. Since at some point the future of our own country may be at stake, I have to speak.

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  3. Ekosj Member
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    This is the fruition of the Obama vision of the Middle East.   He wanted to establish Iran as the regional hegemon.   This is his dream come true.

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  4. Bob Thompson Member
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    Based on other acts by this third Obama Administration I would be wondering if supposedly Biden actions supportive of Israel are really that at all and nothing more than a show to keep our domestic resistance under control. I never think Biden is behind any of these decisions.

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  5. philo Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    It may be that some of us are just quietly watching – as in holding our breath- as the chess pieces are being maneuvered into place on the bigger board.

    I envy your self-control, philo. Keeping my mouth shut has never been my strong suit. Since at some point the future of our own country may be at stake, I have to speak.

    I fully recognize that most of the chess pieces I talk of are ours. I suspect I am well ahead of you on that “our own country” front.

    BTW – How much of that Iranian funding (or similar) now resides in accounts available to ANTIFA and BLM with an election year right around the corner and lots of newly arrived “troops” placed around the country? I suspect the long range planning went far beyond Gaza. Just saying’…

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  6. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Based on other acts by this third Obama Administration I would be wondering if supposedly Biden actions supportive of Israel are really that at all and nothing more than a show to keep our domestic resistance under control. I never think Biden is behind any of these decisions.

    I’m quite sure he’s just mouthing the words, too. But he’s all we’ve got, and he could destroy us.

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  7. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    philo (View Comment):
    BTW – How much of that Iranian funding (or similar) now resides in accounts available to ANTIFA and BLM with an election year right around the corner and lots of newly arrived “troops” placed around the country? I suspect the long range planning went far beyond Gaza. Just saying’…

    I wasn’t criticizing your own knowledge at all, philo. You are probably far ahead of most people, including me. I was speaking for my own feelings. And it would make sense to assume that those groups are planning ahead, too. We could be at war internally.

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  8. The Reticulator Member
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    Susan Quinn: In researching Iran’s power, the facts are alarming. We talk about the Iranian proxies, but I never realized the pervasiveness of their power. Not only is Hamas serving them, but Iraq, Yemen, Syria and hundreds of leaders are guiding multiple terrorist organizations within those countries. This graphic gives you a quick look at their influence.

    Don’t forget that Iran has also been helping Russia wage terror attacks on Ukraine, and that Russia is generally supportive of the Hamas terrorist attacks on Israel, at least in word if not in deed.   This despite the fact that Russian is widely spoken in Israel. 

    So much for the idea of Russian protection of Russian-speakers outside its borders.  

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  9. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Don’t forget that Iran has also been helping Russia wage terror attacks on Ukraine, and that Russia is generally supportive of the Hamas terrorist attacks on Israel, at least in word if not in deed.   This despite the fact that Russian is widely spoken in Israel. 

    So much for the idea of Russian protection of Russian-speakers outside its borders.  

    Yep, needed that reminder. 

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  10. The Reticulator Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Based on other acts by this third Obama Administration I would be wondering if supposedly Biden actions supportive of Israel are really that at all and nothing more than a show to keep our domestic resistance under control. I never think Biden is behind any of these decisions.

    I don’t wonder too much about it, other than to question how is able to get by with that double-game. It’s the same with aiding Ukraine with funding and sanctions, while also trying to play nice with one of the main avenues (Iran) through which sanctions are evaded.  I feel sorry for people like Zelensky and Netanyahu who have little choice but to accept help given by that slime weasel with one hand while he tries to stab them in the back with the other.  

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  11. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
      I feel sorry for people like Zelensky and Netanyahu who have little choice but to accept help given by that slime weasel with one hand while he tries to stab them in the back with the other.  

    Me, too.

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  12. cdor Member
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    The last thing Israel should do is to trust the United States. Iran states their intentions very plainly. They want to destroy Israel and they say so every day. Their actions match their words. The USA, otoh, is duplicitous. We are playing on both sides and speaking out of both sides of our mouth. Israel, imho, is making a huge mistake if they send forces into Gaza. It’s a death trap for Israeli soldiers and a propaganda mega boost for Hamas. They should have immediately bombed northern Gaza into smithereens without a single troop on the ground. Instead, they should focus their troops on the north at the Lebanese border. Eventually Israel will have to invade Lebanon and destroy Hizballah. The two carrier groups our government has positioned in the Mediterranean may not be charged with protecting Israel at all. What if they are there to threaten and keep Israel under control?

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  13. Doug Watt Moderator
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    The only advice I can offer to the US State Department and the Rainbows and Unicorns world view of the common man is pretty basic. The good news is I won’t charge the big consulting fee that thinks tanks charge for some very basic advice.

    When my son and daughter became old enough to go on a date, I told them to pay attention to how their date treated their own siblings and parents. You will not be treated any better than how they treat their siblings and parents. If their family life was chaotic your life will become chaotic.

    In my opinion the same advice holds true for nations. Why US citizens believe that an oppressive and brutal regime will treat us any differently than their own citizens is hard for me to understand.

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  14. Bob Thompson Member
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    cdor (View Comment):

    The last thing Israel should do is to trust the United States. Iran states their intentions very plainly. They want to destroy Israel and they say so every day. Their actions match their words. The USA, otoh, is duplicitous. We are playing on both sides and speaking out of both sides of our mouth. Israel, imho, is making a huge mistake if they send forces into Gaza. It’s a death trap for Israeli soldiers and a propaganda mega boost for Hamas. They should have immediately bombed northern Gaza into smithereens without a single troop on the ground. Instead, they should focus their troops on the north at the Lebanese border. Eventually Israel will have to invade Lebanon and destroy Hizballah. The two carrier groups our government has positioned in the Mediterranean may not be charged with protecting Israel at all. What if they are there to threaten and keep Israel under control?

    What if they are there to entice an attack to start WWIII? I agree that Israel must handle Gaza in a manner that does not allow accusations of genocide.

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  15. cdor Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    The last thing Israel should do is to trust the United States. Iran states their intentions very plainly. They want to destroy Israel and they say so every day. Their actions match their words. The USA, otoh, is duplicitous. We are playing on both sides and speaking out of both sides of our mouth. Israel, imho, is making a huge mistake if they send forces into Gaza. It’s a death trap for Israeli soldiers and a propaganda mega boost for Hamas. They should have immediately bombed northern Gaza into smithereens without a single troop on the ground. Instead, they should focus their troops on the north at the Lebanese border. Eventually Israel will have to invade Lebanon and destroy Hizballah. The two carrier groups our government has positioned in the Mediterranean may not be charged with protecting Israel at all. What if they are there to threaten and keep Israel under control?

    What if they are there to entice an attack to start WWIII? I agree that Israel must handle Gaza in a manner that does not allow accusations of genocide.

    Entice an attack from who?

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  16. Bob Thompson Member
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    The Biden Administration dealings with Iran is a true example of what the Obama Administration initiated in the Russia Hoax and the Deep State bureaucracy continued throughout Trump’s term right up until the 2020 election with the Hunter Biden laptop hoax. 

    This is how the Leftist Commies do it. Accuse their opponents of what they do.

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  17. Bob Thompson Member
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    cdor (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    The last thing Israel should do is to trust the United States. Iran states their intentions very plainly. They want to destroy Israel and they say so every day. Their actions match their words. The USA, otoh, is duplicitous. We are playing on both sides and speaking out of both sides of our mouth. Israel, imho, is making a huge mistake if they send forces into Gaza. It’s a death trap for Israeli soldiers and a propaganda mega boost for Hamas. They should have immediately bombed northern Gaza into smithereens without a single troop on the ground. Instead, they should focus their troops on the north at the Lebanese border. Eventually Israel will have to invade Lebanon and destroy Hizballah. The two carrier groups our government has positioned in the Mediterranean may not be charged with protecting Israel at all. What if they are there to threaten and keep Israel under control?

    What if they are there to entice an attack to start WWIII? I agree that Israel must handle Gaza in a manner that does not allow accusations of genocide.

    Entice an attack from who?

    We have many who think Russia and China are working closely with Iran to evade sanctions who is working closely with Hezbollah and Hamas supplying arms. Our Democrat Commies may think an attack on the carriers task forces might save them in the 2024 election, maybe even a false flag. Their strategies go wherever needed.

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  18. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    cdor (View Comment):
    Israel, imho, is making a huge mistake if they send forces into Gaza. It’s a death trap for Israeli soldiers and a propaganda mega boost for Hamas.

    So you’re saying we should leave central and southern Gaza alone? Not sure about that…

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  19. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):
    Why US citizens believe that an oppressive and brutal regime will treat us any differently than their own citizens is hard for me to understand.

    They either have not thought that far out, or they are clueless–or both.

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  20. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    I agree that Israel must handle Gaza in a manner that does not allow accusations of genocide.

    How would they do it? As soon as they start a ground attack (assuming they do), the accusations will begin.

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  21. Bob Thompson Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    I agree that Israel must handle Gaza in a manner that does not allow accusations of genocide.

    How would they do it? As soon as they start a ground attack (assuming they do), the accusations will begin.

    Didn’t our American Army have to do this in parts of Iraq?

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  22. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    Didn’t our American Army have to do this in Iraq?

    First, that doesn’t answer my question; it wasn’t rhetorical. Second, they are/were two different kinds of conflicts. Although Israelis don’t hate Gazans, the Gazans hate the Israelis and have for a long time. I don’t think we can equate the feelings with the Iraqis toward the Americans–that deep-seated visceral hate.

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  23. Bob Thompson Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    Didn’t our American Army have to do this in Iraq?

    First, that doesn’t answer my question; it wasn’t rhetorical. Second, they are/were two different kinds of conflicts. Although Israelis don’t hate Gazans, the Gazans hate the Israelis and have for a long time. I don’t think we can equate the feelings with the Iraqis toward the Americans–that deep-seated visceral hate.

    Yes, in Iraq there were Iraqis active with our soldiers rooting out those Iraqis who were allied with Iran. Maybe there are no Palestinians in Gaza who are not supporting Hamas and all there can be treated as enemy combatants validly. Israel will probably be accused of genocide and will need to have evidence to defend themselves.

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  24. Rodin Member
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    Iran has a “go” button whenever Allah wills it. Seems like Allah’s will is tied to Western weakness and willingness to supply Islamists with the means to make war. 

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  25. Django Member
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    cdor (View Comment):

    The last thing Israel should do is to trust the United States. Iran states their intentions very plainly. They want to destroy Israel and they say so every day. Their actions match their words. The USA, otoh, is duplicitous. We are playing on both sides and speaking out of both sides of our mouth. Israel, imho, is making a huge mistake if they send forces into Gaza. It’s a death trap for Israeli soldiers and a propaganda mega boost for Hamas. They should have immediately bombed northern Gaza into smithereens without a single troop on the ground. Instead, they should focus their troops on the north at the Lebanese border. Eventually Israel will have to invade Lebanon and destroy Hizballah. The two carrier groups our government has positioned in the Mediterranean may not be charged with protecting Israel at all. What if they are there to threaten and keep Israel under control?

    A headline at drudgereport says China has sent naval vessels of its own to the area. What will Slow Joe do now? 

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  26. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Iran has a “go” button whenever Allah wills it. Seems like Allah’s will is tied to Western weakness and willingness to supply Islamists with the means to make war.

    Funny how that works . . . [sigh]

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  27. BDB Coolidge
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    US Democrats are not Americans in the sense that we would wish.

    They are post-Americans, striving to bring about their future world vision, which does not look at all like the past, nor much like the present.

    US Democrats used to be concerned with free speech and human rights and so forth, and that is all trash now. That is the skinsuit they wear while hatching brood after brood of Marxist soldiers.

    The US Democrat is alied with Iran and actively wishes to see Iran as the regional pole of a multi-polar world.  US Democrats do not care about Sunni/Shiite differences and when it comes time to perform on the world stage, neither do the Sunnis or Shiites.  That is for internal conflict.  Sunnis and Shiites march together arm in arm to chant Death to Israel.  So I pay that no mind.

    To the US Democrat, the problem with Saudi Arabia and in part with Egypt is that those countries are too friendly with the US.

    I don’t have to be religious to see that this is a war of depravity vs decency, order vs chaos, liberty vs state power.  AAs such, it abounds with strange bedfellows and perplexing grievances.

    I have long held out hope that the Iranian people will throw off their oppressive governing cabal.  I have said this in realtime when Bush failed to capitalize, when Obama failed to capitalize, and now that Biden fails to capitalize on organic resistance to the Mullahs.  Note the missing administration in there when the Mullahs largely kept their heads down.

    Just as there are strange enemies, there are strange friends as well:

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  28. cdor Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    Israel, imho, is making a huge mistake if they send forces into Gaza. It’s a death trap for Israeli soldiers and a propaganda mega boost for Hamas.

    So you’re saying we should leave central and southern Gaza alone? Not sure about that…

    I am saying that when Hamas attacks Israel then Israel’s response should be exponentially more destructive.

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  29. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    BDB (View Comment):

    US Democrats are not Americans in the sense that we would wish.

    They are post-Americans, striving to bring about their future world vision, which does not look at all like the past, nor much like the present.

    US Democrats used to be concerned with free speech and human rights and so forth, and that is all trash now. That is the skinsuit they wear while hatching brood after brood of Marxist soldiers.

    The US Democrat is alied with Iran and actively wishes to see Iran as the regional pole of a multi-polar world. US Democrats do not care about Sunni/Shiite differences and when it comes time to perform on the world stage, neither do the Sunnis or Shiites. That is for internal conflict. Sunnis and Shiites march together arm in arm to chant Death to Israel. So I pay that no mind.

    To the US Democrat, the problem with Saudi Arabia and in part with Egypt is that those countries are too friendly with the US.

    I don’t have to be religious to see that this is a war of depravity vs decency, order vs chaos, liberty vs state power. AAs such, it abounds with strange bedfellows and perplexing grievances.

    I have long held out hope that the Iranian people will throw off their oppressive governing cabal. I have said this in realtime when Bush failed to capitalize, when Obama failed to capitalize, and now that Biden fails to capitalize on organic resistance to the Mullahs. Note the missing administration in there when the Mullahs largely kept their heads down.

    Just as there are strange enemies, there are strange friends as well:

    Wow. Do you know where the match was being played? It couldn’t have been in Iran.

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  30. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    cdor (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    Israel, imho, is making a huge mistake if they send forces into Gaza. It’s a death trap for Israeli soldiers and a propaganda mega boost for Hamas.

    So you’re saying we should leave central and southern Gaza alone? Not sure about that…

    I am saying that when Hamas attacks Israel then Israel’s response should be exponentially more destructive.

    So the Israelis should wait until Hamas attacks them to hit back? I’m not trying to be difficult; I just want to understand.

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