‘Clowns to the Left of Me, Jokers to the Right’

 

Today’s House vote for Speaker: 194 for Jordan, 210 for Jeffries.

Well I don’t know why I came here tonight
I’ve got the feeling that something ain’t right
I’m so scared in case I fall off my chair
And I’m wondering how I’ll get down the stairs

Clowns to the left of me
Jokers to the right
Here I am stuck in the middle with you.
Stealers Wheel 

As attacks on our Soldiers and Marines are taking place in the Iraq and Syria area of the Middle East, the self-absorbed and entitled members of the Republican Party are coming close to handing the Democrats the position of Speaker of the House. Jeffries was only six to seven votes away from claiming the position in the last vote today.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

The Second Coming by WB Yeats

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  1. Globalitarian Misanthropist Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    St.A and GM, don’t get too carried away! ;-)

    Just like a chick to take us seriously.

    You are cruisin’ for a bruisin’ and your ship’s about to dock…

    I guess I’ll take the bruising.  But where I come from Chick is a compliment.  Women!

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  2. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    St.A and GM, don’t get too carried away! ;-)

    Just like a chick to take us seriously.

    You are cruisin’ for a bruisin’ and your ship’s about to dock…

    I guess I’ll take the bruising. But where I come from Chick is a compliment. Women!

    Actually it is, but I couldn’t resist!

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  3. Globalitarian Misanthropist Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    St.A and GM, don’t get too carried away! ;-)

    Just like a chick to take us seriously.

    You are cruisin’ for a bruisin’ and your ship’s about to dock…

    I guess I’ll take the bruising. But where I come from Chick is a compliment. Women!

    Actually it is, but I couldn’t resist!

    :)

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  4. Manny Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Feuds and revenge within a party caucus is a really bad sign. They have truly earned the moniker “The Stupid Party!”

    It would be nice to hear some substantive criticism of the 8 once in a while(*). All the screaming and name-calling makes me suspicious.

    (*) Old Bathos did it once, showing it is indeed possible.

     

    What do you want me to say that I haven’t said elsewhere and has not already been said?  I’ve said when you have a paper thin majority, you can’t (1) expect to not have to compromise, (2) infight and disperse the little advantage you have, and (3) expect to achieve the extent of your agenda.  The eight were spitting in a gale force wind.  They were opposed to reality.  And frankly I think it was a personal spite to McCarthy.  Look at how the Dems held together when they were a paper thin majority under Pelosi.  Apparently they’re not the stupid party any more.

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  5. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Manny (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Feuds and revenge within a party caucus is a really bad sign. They have truly earned the moniker “The Stupid Party!”

    It would be nice to hear some substantive criticism of the 8 once in a while(*). All the screaming and name-calling makes me suspicious.

    (*) Old Bathos did it once, showing it is indeed possible.

     

    What do you want me to say that I haven’t said elsewhere and has not already been said? I’ve said when you have a paper thin majority, you can’t (1) expect to not have to compromise, (2) infight and disperse the little advantage you have, and (3) expect to achieve the extent of your agenda. The eight were spitting in a gale force wind. They were opposed to reality. And frankly I think it was a personal spite to McCarthy. Look at how the Dems held together when they were a paper thin majority under Pelosi. Apparently they’re not the stupid party any more.

    But the 20 are all good?

    • #35
  6. The Reticulator Member
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    Manny (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Feuds and revenge within a party caucus is a really bad sign. They have truly earned the moniker “The Stupid Party!”

    It would be nice to hear some substantive criticism of the 8 once in a while(*). All the screaming and name-calling makes me suspicious.

    (*) Old Bathos did it once, showing it is indeed possible.

     

    What do you want me to say that I haven’t said elsewhere and has not already been said? I’ve said when you have a paper thin majority, you can’t (1) expect to not have to compromise, (2) infight and disperse the little advantage you have, and (3) expect to achieve the extent of your agenda. The eight were spitting in a gale force wind. They were opposed to reality. And frankly I think it was a personal spite to McCarthy. Look at how the Dems held together when they were a paper thin majority under Pelosi. Apparently they’re not the stupid party any more.

    I expect less invective and more substance.  The above provides me no information as to what the eight could have done better, other than “compromise.”  Well, the hardliners who won’t vote for Gaetz or Jordan don’t seem to be interested in compromise, and are full of spite themselves, so how does that make the eight any different from any other Republicans?  

    • #36
  7. Manny Coolidge
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    @Manny

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Feuds and revenge within a party caucus is a really bad sign. They have truly earned the moniker “The Stupid Party!”

    It would be nice to hear some substantive criticism of the 8 once in a while(*). All the screaming and name-calling makes me suspicious.

    (*) Old Bathos did it once, showing it is indeed possible.

     

    What do you want me to say that I haven’t said elsewhere and has not already been said? I’ve said when you have a paper thin majority, you can’t (1) expect to not have to compromise, (2) infight and disperse the little advantage you have, and (3) expect to achieve the extent of your agenda. The eight were spitting in a gale force wind. They were opposed to reality. And frankly I think it was a personal spite to McCarthy. Look at how the Dems held together when they were a paper thin majority under Pelosi. Apparently they’re not the stupid party any more.

    But the 20 are all good?

    No, of course not.  I was good with Jim Jordan, but the eight exposed the wounds, and now there is tit for tat.

    • #37
  8. Manny Coolidge
    Manny
    @Manny

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Feuds and revenge within a party caucus is a really bad sign. They have truly earned the moniker “The Stupid Party!”

    It would be nice to hear some substantive criticism of the 8 once in a while(*). All the screaming and name-calling makes me suspicious.

    (*) Old Bathos did it once, showing it is indeed possible.

     

    What do you want me to say that I haven’t said elsewhere and has not already been said? I’ve said when you have a paper thin majority, you can’t (1) expect to not have to compromise, (2) infight and disperse the little advantage you have, and (3) expect to achieve the extent of your agenda. The eight were spitting in a gale force wind. They were opposed to reality. And frankly I think it was a personal spite to McCarthy. Look at how the Dems held together when they were a paper thin majority under Pelosi. Apparently they’re not the stupid party any more.

    I expect less invective and more substance. The above provides me no information as to what the eight could have done better, other than “compromise.” Well, the hardliners who won’t vote for Gaetz or Jordan don’t seem to be interested in compromise, and are full of spite themselves, so how does that make the eight any different from any other Republicans?

    Yes, accept compromise would have been the solution.  If you’ve ever participated in negotiations, you have to give the negotiating group leeway.  I suspect there is nothing I can say that will satisfy you.  Your opinion and my opinion count for nothing here.  No one in Congress is going to come to either of us for a solution or even an opinion.  

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  9. DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue Member
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    Manny (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    What do you want me to say that I haven’t said elsewhere and has not already been said? I’ve said when you have a paper thin majority, you can’t (1) expect to not have to compromise, (2) infight and disperse the little advantage you have, and (3) expect to achieve the extent of your agenda. The eight were spitting in a gale force wind. They were opposed to reality. And frankly I think it was a personal spite to McCarthy. Look at how the Dems held together when they were a paper thin majority under Pelosi. Apparently they’re not the stupid party any more.

    But the 20 are all good?

    No, of course not. I was good with Jim Jordan, but the eight exposed the wounds, and now there is tit for tat.

    The dirty 20 won’t get on board, but it’s the fault of the Gaetz-8?

     

    • #39
  10. DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue Member
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    Manny (View Comment):

    Yes, accept compromise would have been the solution. If you’ve ever participated in negotiations, you have to give the negotiating group leeway. I suspect there is nothing I can say that will satisfy you. Your opinion and my opinion count for nothing here. No one in Congress is going to come to either of us for a solution or even an opinion.

    Republican “compromise” is why we’re in this mess.

    • #40
  11. Manny Coolidge
    Manny
    @Manny

    DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Yes, accept compromise would have been the solution. If you’ve ever participated in negotiations, you have to give the negotiating group leeway. I suspect there is nothing I can say that will satisfy you. Your opinion and my opinion count for nothing here. No one in Congress is going to come to either of us for a solution or even an opinion.

    Republican “compromise” is why we’re in this mess.

    Side issue Drew.  I see you took my label of “Demagogue” as a moniker!  It was only on that one issue.  I wasn’t saying you were always a demagogue.  If you’re wearing it as label, I assume you’re having fun with it.  Hopefully it wasn’t hurtful.  I apologize if it was.

    • #41
  12. Percival Thatcher
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    Manny (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Yes, accept compromise would have been the solution. If you’ve ever participated in negotiations, you have to give the negotiating group leeway. I suspect there is nothing I can say that will satisfy you. Your opinion and my opinion count for nothing here. No one in Congress is going to come to either of us for a solution or even an opinion.

    Republican “compromise” is why we’re in this mess.

    Side issue Drew. I see you took my label of “Demagogue” as a moniker! It was only on that one issue. I wasn’t saying you were always a demagogue. If you’re wearing it as label, I assume you’re having fun with it. Hopefully it wasn’t hurtful. I apologize if it was.

    In Drew’s case, it’s “demigogue.” Drew is only a part-time gogue.

    • #42
  13. Manny Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Yes, accept compromise would have been the solution. If you’ve ever participated in negotiations, you have to give the negotiating group leeway. I suspect there is nothing I can say that will satisfy you. Your opinion and my opinion count for nothing here. No one in Congress is going to come to either of us for a solution or even an opinion.

    Republican “compromise” is why we’re in this mess.

    Side issue Drew. I see you took my label of “Demagogue” as a moniker! It was only on that one issue. I wasn’t saying you were always a demagogue. If you’re wearing it as label, I assume you’re having fun with it. Hopefully it wasn’t hurtful. I apologize if it was.

    In Drew’s case, it’s “demigogue.” Drew is only a part-time gogue.

    I’m a terrible speller myself but now I get it.  ;)

    • #43
  14. Bishop Wash Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Yes, accept compromise would have been the solution. If you’ve ever participated in negotiations, you have to give the negotiating group leeway. I suspect there is nothing I can say that will satisfy you. Your opinion and my opinion count for nothing here. No one in Congress is going to come to either of us for a solution or even an opinion.

    Republican “compromise” is why we’re in this mess.

    Side issue Drew. I see you took my label of “Demagogue” as a moniker! It was only on that one issue. I wasn’t saying you were always a demagogue. If you’re wearing it as label, I assume you’re having fun with it. Hopefully it wasn’t hurtful. I apologize if it was.

    In Drew’s case, it’s “demigogue.” Drew is only a part-time gogue.

    Drew’s no semi gogue.

    (In college my roommate would tell of his D&D campaigns in the TV room. Once he was talking about their encounter with a demigod and a female student from South America started yelling at him, “You’re no semi god!”)

    • #44
  15. DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Semi God?

    Smokey and the Bandit (1977)

    • #45
  16. Globalitarian Misanthropist Coolidge
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    Manny (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Demagogue (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Yes, accept compromise would have been the solution. If you’ve ever participated in negotiations, you have to give the negotiating group leeway. I suspect there is nothing I can say that will satisfy you. Your opinion and my opinion count for nothing here. No one in Congress is going to come to either of us for a solution or even an opinion.

    Republican “compromise” is why we’re in this mess.

    Side issue Drew. I see you took my label of “Demagogue” as a moniker! It was only on that one issue. I wasn’t saying you were always a demagogue. If you’re wearing it as label, I assume you’re having fun with it. Hopefully it wasn’t hurtful. I apologize if it was.

    But he is a demagogue.  And it all starts in Wisconsin.

    • #46
  17. The Reticulator Member
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    Manny (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Feuds and revenge within a party caucus is a really bad sign. They have truly earned the moniker “The Stupid Party!”

    It would be nice to hear some substantive criticism of the 8 once in a while(*). All the screaming and name-calling makes me suspicious.

    (*) Old Bathos did it once, showing it is indeed possible.

     

    What do you want me to say that I haven’t said elsewhere and has not already been said? I’ve said when you have a paper thin majority, you can’t (1) expect to not have to compromise, (2) infight and disperse the little advantage you have, and (3) expect to achieve the extent of your agenda. The eight were spitting in a gale force wind. They were opposed to reality. And frankly I think it was a personal spite to McCarthy. Look at how the Dems held together when they were a paper thin majority under Pelosi. Apparently they’re not the stupid party any more.

    But the 20 are all good?

    No, of course not. I was good with Jim Jordan, but the eight exposed the wounds, and now there is tit for tat.

    And now there are 20 or so in full hissy-fit mode against him.

    • #47
  18. The Reticulator Member
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    Manny (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    Feuds and revenge within a party caucus is a really bad sign. They have truly earned the moniker “The Stupid Party!”

    It would be nice to hear some substantive criticism of the 8 once in a while(*). All the screaming and name-calling makes me suspicious.

    (*) Old Bathos did it once, showing it is indeed possible.

     

    What do you want me to say that I haven’t said elsewhere and has not already been said? I’ve said when you have a paper thin majority, you can’t (1) expect to not have to compromise, (2) infight and disperse the little advantage you have, and (3) expect to achieve the extent of your agenda. The eight were spitting in a gale force wind. They were opposed to reality. And frankly I think it was a personal spite to McCarthy. Look at how the Dems held together when they were a paper thin majority under Pelosi. Apparently they’re not the stupid party any more.

    I expect less invective and more substance. The above provides me no information as to what the eight could have done better, other than “compromise.” Well, the hardliners who won’t vote for Gaetz or Jordan don’t seem to be interested in compromise, and are full of spite themselves, so how does that make the eight any different from any other Republicans?

    Yes, accept compromise would have been the solution. If you’ve ever participated in negotiations, you have to give the negotiating group leeway. I suspect there is nothing I can say that will satisfy you. Your opinion and my opinion count for nothing here. No one in Congress is going to come to either of us for a solution or even an opinion.

    Accept what compromise?  This is the sort of information that we seem to be lacking amongst all the invective and name-calling.  

    • #48
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