Four Jan. 6 Defendants’ Suicides – Bloodlust of the Elites?

 

“Evil isn’t the word”: Julie Kelly

This is something of a sequel to my recent post about the wildly excessive sentences handed down to the members of the Proud Boys, “Something Wicked This Way Comes” and is prompted by Julie Kelly’s analysis, Blood Lust, in which she covers one of the most disquieting results of these Star Chamber proceedings – the suicides of some of those charged knowing what the bloodthirsty DOJ and the Federal Court in DC will do to them and their families.

While I wholeheartedly recommend a full and careful reading of Kelly’s excellent reporting, I do so with a caveat: it makes for uncomfortable reading as the examples she cites of some of the reactions of those on the left to the suicide she features but also the sentences handed down to many of the Jan. 6 defendants are, to put it mildly, disturbing and indicative of some very troubled minds.

This is the story of “Jord” Meacham who went to the Capitol on January 6 with his uncle and did something, in Kelly’s words, that deeply offended the ruling class — he demonstrated his support for Donald Trump. He was 19 years old at the time. The FBI agent’s report specifically noted that Jord was carrying a Trump flag, as if that had anything to do with whether or not he should be criminally charged. He was in the Capitol building for a total of ten minutes, assaulted no one, damaged no property. Here is Jord on that fateful day, surely not the picture of an alleged “criminal” as the ghouls of the U.S. Attorney’s office painted him:

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For this, the horrible, dastardly, threat-to-“Our Democracy” crime of “parading” in what many of us were taught and believed, and just to be clear I still believe, is the People’s House, on August 28,  Judge Reggie Walton in Washington scheduled Jord’s arraignment.

That very night Jord ended his life with a shot to the head.

As Kelly notes, Jord was “the sort of person the elites in Washington despise.”

He was one of 10 children, and lived in rural Utah near the Nevada border working on his family’s ranch. Here’s the Meacham family:

Here are the “crimes” with which Jord was to be arraigned for, surely serious and grave enough to have constituted a clear and present danger to “Our Democracy” and certainly could have, at least in the minds of some of the bottom feeders in Washington, led to the overthrow of the entire government:

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Jord Meacham, age 22, was pronounced dead at 9:21 pm on August 28, 2023.

His is the fourth known suicide of a January 6 defendant; here is Julie Kelly’s summary of the others:

… Christopher Stanton Georgia, 53, shot himself in the chest a few days after January 6; he had been arrested and charged with unlawful entry and violating the city’s curfew. Mark Aungst, 47, killed himself in July 2022, a month after pleading guilty to the petty offense of “parading” in the Capitol.

She also sums up what Jord would have faced had he tried (key word considering there has only been one acquittal in the hundreds and hundreds of January 6 cases) to contest the charges; it makes for a grim outlook indeed:

Jord did have his life ahead of him. But in the short term, he and his family would’ve been subjected to ongoing torment inflicted by a cruel and ruthless DOJ. He would’ve been openly berated by a lunatic judge—[U.S. District Judge] Walton accused one man who pleaded guilty to a petty offense of “disgrac[ing] this country in the eyes of the world” and “attack[ing] the government”—in open court. He would’ve been branded a domestic terrorist despite the low-level charges filed against him. He would’ve been hounded by the news media, both local and national.

Such is the fate of every January 6 defendant. And Jord undoubtedly knew the nightmare in front of him.

All of this is ghoulish enough but one reason I decided to write this post was to point out the bizarrely unhinged comments made by some of our – as much as it deeply pains me to have to admit it – fellow American citizens. Here are just a few examples of the despicable things being said about Jord and the other Americans who have been caught up in this most disgraceful chapter in our history:

What kind of soulless monster cheers, for the world to see, a tragedy this horrific?

What kind of potentially dangerous person — “person”? — would openly call a young man like Jord “too cowardly to stand trial” and then proudly proclaim that he was “good with that”?

What rock do these animals live under and what do they signify is happening to the moral fiber of our nation?

If this is not evil, then the word no longer has any real meaning.

I want in the worst kind of way to believe that our country still has a vibrant and bright future and have written in the past about hopeful signs we see all around us, such as Ruby LaRocca, but if “people” like these elect our next President, we may never recover.

Here is a photo of the person who the scum we refer to as “elite” in Washington think was a threat to the continuing existence of the government of the United States of America; they are truly consumed by what Kelly termed “insatiable bloodlust”:

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  1. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    The situation with the J6 prisoners spells out that we are now all Proud Boys.

    Given that a former president has been indicted on bogus charges, none of us are free citizens.

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart for continuously bringing the mater to our attention.

    It seems so pathetic to say “Jord Meachem” RIP.

    His story and that of the other three prisoners should inspire us to demand the complete annihilation of these kangaroo court trials. With the result being the immediate freeing of all the innocents now sitting in the darkness of our national corruption.

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  2. Jim George Member
    Jim George
    @JimGeorge

    Yarob (View Comment):

    By the way, the entry for January 6 in Encyclopedia Brittanica opens in almost identical fashion to the one in Wikipedia:

    “January 6 U.S. Capitol attack, storming of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021, by a mob of supporters of Republican Pres. Donald J. Trump. The attack disrupted a joint session of Congress convened to certify the results of the presidential election of 2020, which Trump had lost to his Democratic opponent, Joe Biden. Because its object was to prevent a legitimate president-elect from assuming office, the attack was widely regarded as an insurrection or attempted coup d’état.”

    I am an American citizen. Therefore, I have the right — at least up to the date of this writing – under the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights to express my opinion. My opinions are these: the attack did not disrupt a joint session of Congress- it delayed it by a small amount of time and the business it had started was completed in short order. As to the totally unfounded practice now adopted by all leftists and many, unfortunately, Republicans of calling this an insurrection, I will simply note that it flies in the teeth of every accepted definition of the word “insurrection”, one of which I quote from Brittanica and can be found here:

    insurrection, an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt. An insurrection may facilitate or bring about a revolution, which is a radical change in the form of government or political system of a state, and it may be initiated or provoked by an act of sedition, which is an incitement to revolt or rebellion.

     

    In the United States, insurrection against the authority of the federal government is a crime under 18 U.S. Code §2383, which provides that:

    Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    Reasonable minds may differ as to whether the events of January 6, 2021, fit  these definitions, which I assume you will accept as authoratative. However, it is powerfully persuasive to me  that the thoroughly rotten, corrupt, sleazy, despicable DOJ, which has gone searching for the most minor participants in those events and charged them with such ridiculous “crimes” as “parading” has not charged one of those over a thousand people with the crime defined above, 18 USCA 2383. Not one. Thus, you may disagree with that opinion, as is your absolute right, but you should not, with all due respect,  label those opinions you disagree with as “worthless.”

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  3. Jim George Member
    Jim George
    @JimGeorge

    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):
    Is there any online source you trust to provide an accurate summary of the events of January 6? If so, please let us know what it is.

    See comment #25- Julie Kelly’s many columns and blog posts which can be accessed at juliekelly@substack.com

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Jim George (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):
    Is there any online source you trust to provide an accurate summary of the events of January 6? If so, please let us know what it is.

    See comment #25- Julie Kelly’s many columns and blog posts which can be accessed at juliekelly@ substack.com.

    That looks like an email address, not a web site.

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  5. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    Jim George (View Comment):

    Yarob (View Comment):

    By the way, the entry for January 6 in Encyclopedia Brittanica opens in almost identical fashion to the one in Wikipedia:

    “January 6 U.S. Capitol attack, storming of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021, by a mob of supporters of Republican Pres. Donald J. Trump. The attack disrupted a joint session of Congress convened to certify the results of the presidential election of 2020, which Trump had lost to SNIP Joe Biden. Because its object was to prevent a legitimate president-elect from assuming office, the attack was widely regarded as an insurrection or attempted coup d’état.”

    I am an American citizen. Therefore, I have the right SNIP – under the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights to express my opinion. My opinions are these: the attack did not disrupt a joint session of Congress- it delayed it by a small amount of time and the business it had started was completed in short order. As to the totally unfounded practice now adopted by all SNIP  I will simply note that it flies in the teeth of every accepted definition of the word “insurrection”, … which I quote from Brittanica & can be found here:

    insurrection, an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt. An insurrection may facilitate or bring about a revolution, SNIP

    In the United States, insurrection against the authority of the federal government is a crime under 18 U.S. Code §2383, which provides that:

    Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    Reasonable minds may differ as to whether the events of January 6, 2021, fit these definitions, which I assume you will accept as authoratative. However, it is powerfully persuasive to me that the thoroughly rotten, corrupt, sleazy, despicable DOJ, which has gone searching for the most minor participants in those events and charged them with such ridiculous “crimes” as “parading” has not charged one of those over a thousand people with the crime defined above, 18 USCA 2383. Not one. SNIP

    Excellent statements, Jim G, all of them.

    I have mentioned this before. It bears repeating:

    In Feb 2021, “Newsweek” magazine ran an article in which it proclaimed that there had been no activities that had taken place inside the USA under the direction of “domestic terrorists.”

    So if “Newsweek” forgot to notice a major insurrection, as damaging or more so than the events of Nine Eleven, how  could that be? Were the good folks at that media outlet all asleep at he wheel?

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  6. DrewInWisconsin, Œuf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    The Biden DOJ has insisted that the greatest threat to the United States is from “right wing domestic terrorism.”

    Given the paltry few numbers of actual right-wing domestic terrorists, the DOJ has been busy creating them out of whole cloth with the help of their friends at the FBI.

    Left-wing terrorism?

    As far as the DOJ is concerned, it doesn’t exist.

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    • #36
  7. DrewInWisconsin, Œuf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    The Democrats’ “summer of love.”

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  8. Jim George Member
    Jim George
    @JimGeorge

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Excellent statements, Jim G, all of them.

    I have mentioned this before. It bears repeating:

    In Feb 2021, “Newsweek” magazine ran an article in which it proclaimed that there had been no activities that had taken place inside the USA under the direction of “domestic terrorists.”

    So if “Newsweek” forgot to notice a major insurrection, as damaging or more so than the events of Nine Eleven, how  could that be? Were the good folks at that media outlet all asleep at he wheel?

    Thank you. At times I get tired of listening to the same stale old talking points with little or nothing of substance to back them up. Our new home area (we have been here for five years after a lifetime in Louisiana) tends to be quite conservative – home to a major military installation, NAS Pensacola (home of our beloved Blue Angels!) and thus the home of many retired military personnel. Because practically all of them come from the era when the military was primarily involved with actual military matters and not Diversity, Inclusion and Equity, they tend to be conservative. Yet, now and then we hear people discussing such talking points as “systemic racism” and White supremacy” without having the slightest notion of what the actual data is behind any of those talking points. I usually just ignore most of these as they don’t merit any response but some of these statements were so off the wall I decided to invest some real time in refuting them. Thanks again, Jim

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  9. Barfly Member
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    @Barfly

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Wow, look who doesn’t know much about the Jan 6 protesters.

    Not that anyone is surprised or anything.

    We are filling up with low-information members, aren’t we.

    Check the Recycle Bin.

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  10. MarciN Member
    MarciN
    @MarciN

    At some point, everyone who was there that day needs to acknowledge his or her own agency’s and personal roles in the perfect storm that occurred. The Democrats were just as responsible for the hype that led up to it as the Republicans were.

    And that kind of “lessons learned” analysis should be the end of it. In fact, it should have ended with the FBI’s report to Congress a month after it happened.

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    MarciN (View Comment):
    And that should be the end of it. In fact, it should have ended with the FBI’s report to Congress a month after it happened.

    And the Trump “investigations” should have ended with the FEC determining there were no violations.

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  12. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Yarob (View Comment):

    Sad, but it should surprise no one that mentally unbalanced or disturbed people are prone to irrational behavior. Sometimes this takes the form of rioting in public buildings, assaulting policemen, and threatening the lives of congressmen and vice presidents (all nominally in support of a “cause,” no matter how worthless), and sometimes it takes the form of self-harm and suicide.

    It’s not as if the Ashamed Boys and others who rioted on January 6th were just average, regular citizens before that date. Going to Washington to wage war on your fellow citizens indicates something not quite right to begin with, and if this circumstance continues to obtain there may of course be additional consequences.

    The left has been at war with us for a long time. Because of the way they treat them, I see pure hatred and revenge, not qualities of a Justice system that isn’t an evil in itself. I still say each state should make Jan 6 a holiday to serve notice the two-tiered Justice system will not be tolerated. 

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  13. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Wow, look who doesn’t know much about the Jan 6 protesters.

    Not that anyone is surprised or anything.

    We are filling up with low-information members, aren’t we.

    College kids. 

    • #43
  14. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Yarob (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Wow, look who doesn’t know much about the Jan 6 protesters.

    My understanding of the events of January 6 is entirely conventional and captured nicely by Wikipedia’s introductory paragraph on the subject:

    “On January 6, 2021, following the defeat of U.S. President Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election, a mob of his supporters attacked the United States Capitol Building in Washington, D.C. The mob sought to keep Trump in power by preventing a joint session of Congress from counting the Electoral College votes to formalize the victory of President-elect Joe Biden.”

    Imputing ignorance or bad faith on my part is not responsive to my assertion that believing you can overturn the results of a US election by staging a riot in response to false claims it was stolen indicates the kind of disordered thinking that might evidence itself in other ways.

    Overturning an election or demanding an investigation  to ascertain the real outcome. I am all for questioning every election until safeguards to prevent fraud are reinstated. 

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  15. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    philo (View Comment):

    “My understanding is … entirely … captured nicely by Wikipedia…”

    Giggle.

    Stupidpedia is the young kids’ idea of serious research. 

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  16. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Yarob (View Comment):

    Jim George (View Comment):
    I cannot recall a single instance of anyone quoting from Wikipedia as a serious source of content. Until now. Perhaps the above passage is a good example of why it is so disregarded by those who are interested in factual support for their/his/her/its statements.

    I quoted exactly two sentences from the Wikipedia entry for January 6. It’s notable that you fail to object to either of them on the grounds of accuracy but choose instead to make sneering comments on their source. For the record, I find Wikipedia to be highly reliable, especially so in the areas in which I am expert (the lives and works of certain 20th-century authors). I often contribute as an editor, mostly to correct typos but occasionally to add substantive content. If you believe any part of an entry to be wrong or misleading, you’re welcome to submit a correction. Or you could just sit back and sneer; that’s always an option, naturally.

    By the way, the entry for January 6 in Encyclopedia Brittanica opens in almost identical fashion to the one in Wikipedia:

    “January 6 U.S. Capitol attack, storming of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021, by a mob of supporters of Republican Pres. Donald J. Trump. The attack disrupted a joint session of Congress convened to certify the results of the presidential election of 2020, which Trump had lost to his Democratic opponent, Joe Biden. Because its object was to prevent a legitimate president-elect from assuming office, the attack was widely regarded as an insurrection or attempted coup d’état.”

    Do you also have something disobliging to say about EB and the people who use it for research? Is there any online source you trust to provide an accurate summary of the events of January 6? If so, please let us know what it is.

    “Was widely regarded as”. ..  there you go, biased weasel words. 

    • #46
  17. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    “My understanding is … entirely … captured nicely by Wikipedia…”

    Giggle.

    Stupidpedia is the young kids’ idea of serious research.

    @jameslileks mentioned years ago on a Northern Alliance Radio Network show basically that Wikipedia can be invaluable in areas where there may not be much controversy.  The example he gave was getting information about people whose faces he found on various foreign money.  But it’s a very different matter when you come up against people with various axes to grind.  I couldn’t even get them to correct their article about the movie “Josie And the Pussycats.”

    (Actually sung by Kay Hanley of “Letters To Cleo”)

     

     

     

     

    Once I go Off Topic, it’s hard to get back…

    “Letters To Cleo” from the movie “The Craft,” I like it better than “The Cars”

     

     

     

     

    And Heather Nova is another favorite of mine:

     

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  18. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Yarob (View Comment):

    Jim George (View Comment):
    I cannot recall a single instance of anyone quoting from Wikipedia as a serious source of content. Until now. Perhaps the above passage is a good example of why it is so disregarded by those who are interested in factual support for their/his/her/its statements.

    I quoted exactly two sentences from the Wikipedia entry for January 6. It’s notable that you fail to object to either of them on the grounds of accuracy but choose instead to make sneering comments on their source. For the record, I find Wikipedia to be highly reliable, especially so in the areas in which I am expert (the lives and works of certain 20th-century authors). I often contribute as an editor, mostly to correct typos but occasionally to add substantive content. If you believe any part of an entry to be wrong or misleading, you’re welcome to submit a correction. Or you could just sit back and sneer; that’s always an option, naturally.

    By the way, the entry for January 6 in Encyclopedia Brittanica opens in almost identical fashion to the one in Wikipedia:

    “January 6 U.S. Capitol attack, storming of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021, by a mob of supporters of Republican Pres. Donald J. Trump. The attack disrupted a joint session of Congress convened to certify the results of the presidential election of 2020, which Trump had lost to his Democratic opponent, Joe Biden. Because its object was to prevent a legitimate president-elect from assuming office, the attack was widely regarded as an insurrection or attempted coup d’état.”

    Do you also have something disobliging to say about EB and the people who use it for research? Is there any online source you trust to provide an accurate summary of the events of January 6? If so, please let us know what it is.

    “Was widely regarded as”. .. there you go, biased weasel words.

    I would never cite Wikipedia in an argument since it’s unreliable. Take for example the assertion that GPS started out as a military only system. That’s false. https://thespacereview.com/article/3509/1

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  19. Saint Augustine Member
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    Yarob (View Comment):
    Going to Washington to wage war on your fellow citizens indicates something not quite right to begin with, and if this circumstance continues to obtain there may of course be additional consequences. 

    Nice plan they had, waging a war without weapons.

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  20. Saint Augustine Member
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    @SaintAugustine

    Yarob (View Comment):
    Imputing ignorance or bad faith on my part is not responsive to my assertion that believing you can overturn the results of a US election by staging a riot in response to false claims it was stolen indicates the kind of disordered thinking that might evidence itself in other ways.

    Now there’s a topic I’m interested in.

    You know anything about the illegalities in the 2020 election, Yarob? For example, any idea how many votes might have been illegally cast or counted in the swing states?

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  21. Jim George Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Jim George (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):
    Is there any online source you trust to provide an accurate summary of the events of January 6? If so, please let us know what it is.

    See comment #25- Julie Kelly’s many columns and blog posts which can be accessed at juliekelly@ substack.com.

    That looks like an email address, not a web site.

    Correct. I thought at the time I copied it from her email to me – I subscribe to her substack- that looked unusual. Here is the address I got which looks much more like an appropriate address: declassified.live. Not that I think our new NTer will ever bother to check it or expose him/her/it self to other opinions. 

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  22. Globalitarian Misanthropist Coolidge
    Globalitarian Misanthropist
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    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Wow, look who doesn’t know much about the Jan 6 protesters.

    Not that anyone is surprised or anything.

    We are filling up with low-information members, aren’t we.

    There does seem to be a sudden influx. I assume it’s because of the upcoming election, and a bunch of paid randos have been tasked with setting the Narrative on various conservative discussion forums.

    The funny thing is that many of them have old membership join-up dates but I’ve never seen a comment from them until this year.

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  23. philo Member
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    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Wow, look who doesn’t know much about the Jan 6 protesters.

    Not that anyone is surprised or anything.

    We are filling up with low-information members, aren’t we.

    There does seem to be a sudden influx. I assume it’s because of the upcoming election, and a bunch of paid randos have been tasked with setting the Narrative on various conservative discussion forums.

    The funny thing is that many of them have old membership join-up dates but I’ve never seen a comment from them until this year.

    There was no need to expose themselves as long as the very active one was always rushing the MSNBC talking points to the Member Feed. Mission Accomplished. 

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  24. Globalitarian Misanthropist Coolidge
    Globalitarian Misanthropist
    @Flicker

    philo (View Comment):

    “My understanding is … entirely … captured nicely by Wikipedia…”

    Giggle.

    Yes, sentences are fun and revealing.

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  25. Globalitarian Misanthropist Coolidge
    Globalitarian Misanthropist
    @Flicker

    philo (View Comment):

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):

    Globalitarian Misanthropist (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Wow, look who doesn’t know much about the Jan 6 protesters.

    Not that anyone is surprised or anything.

    We are filling up with low-information members, aren’t we.

    There does seem to be a sudden influx. I assume it’s because of the upcoming election, and a bunch of paid randos have been tasked with setting the Narrative on various conservative discussion forums.

    The funny thing is that many of them have old membership join-up dates but I’ve never seen a comment from them until this year.

    There was no need to expose themselves as long as the very active one was always rushing the MSNBC talking points to the Member Feed. Mission Accomplished.

    Makes sense.

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  26. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    The thing about the Proud Boys is that they are hated by the absolute worst people in America; the people who revere Antifa, BLM, and Che Guevara. That should tell you something.

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  27. GrannyDude Member
    GrannyDude
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    The situation with the J6 prisoners spells out that we are now all Proud Boys.

    Given that a former president has been indicted on bogus charges, none of us are free citizens.

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart for continuously bringing the mater to our attention.

    It seems so pathetic to say “Jord Meachem” RIP.

    His story and that of the other three prisoners should inspire us to demand the complete annihilation of these kangaroo court trials. With the result being the immediate freeing of all the innocents now sitting in the darkness of our national corruption.

    I’d add to this—and to the OP—that three police officers involved that day also committed suicide in the weeks following, something that Nancy Pelosi et al used to make it sound like the riot killed them. In fact, no police officers died as a result of action by the rioters, at least one of the five deaths that day was caused directly by police action (an unarmed woman shot dead by a police officer). 

    Something weird happened on January 6th. The Capitol Police’s job is to protect the Capitol and its inhabitants. It is essentially their whole job. So why did they fail? 

    It is difficult for me to believe that they weren’t set up deliberately to fail, since their failure provided obvious opportunities for the Democrats. 

    Leftists have a tendency to use police officers as involuntary extras in their passion plays. I wonder if the three who took their own lives realized that they’d been used?

     

     

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  28. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    GrannyDude (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    The situation with the J6 prisoners spells out that we are now all Proud Boys.

    Given that a former president has been indicted on bogus charges, none of us are free citizens.

    Thank you from the bottom of my heart for continuously bringing the mater to our attention.

    It seems so pathetic to say “Jord Meachem” RIP.

    His story and that of the other three prisoners should inspire us to demand the complete annihilation of these kangaroo court trials. With the result being the immediate freeing of all the innocents now sitting in the darkness of our national corruption.

    I’d add to this—and to the OP—that three police officers involved that day also committed suicide in the weeks following, something that Nancy Pelosi et al used to make it sound like the riot killed them. In fact, no police officers died as a result of action by the rioters, at least one of the five deaths that day was caused directly by police action (an unarmed woman shot dead by a police officer).

    Something weird happened on January 6th. The Capitol Police’s job is to protect the Capitol and its inhabitants. It is essentially their whole job. So why did they fail?

    It is difficult for me to believe that they weren’t set up deliberately to fail, since their failure provided obvious opportunities for the Democrats.

    Leftists have a tendency to use police officers as involuntary extras in their passion plays. I wonder if the three who took their own lives realized that they’d been used?

     

     

    It was a trap.

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  29. philo Member
    philo
    @philo

    philo (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):

    Interesting that you should use the word “blood lust.” I used those exact words repeatedly in responding to the most infamous post on Ricochet and the blood lust witnessed therein.

    I hope that by now those who exhibited that blood lust in the heat of the moment have repented. But I doubt it.

    Lest it be forgotten:

    Impeachment is not enough. An amendment to the constitution should be enacted creating a carve out to the prohibition on bills of attainder and exiling Trump, his family, staff and most prominent supporters the on pain of death if they return.

    The insurrectionists should be tried for treason fairly and once convicted, executed.

    1/6 is a terrorist attack on our country no less serious than 9/11. All other priorities must be put on hold until the perpetrators are brought to justice.

    More for the current record. The first response to that was:

    Indeed. I would say that this is worse than 9/11.

    Then this:

    Bloodlust has its time and place. This is it.

    and this:

    If you think bloodlust is incompatible with the spirit of liberty and republicanism you don’t know the history of those ideals. … Those who stormed the capitol should face the full penalty for treason…

    and this:

    This was an attempted coup to install a tyrant.

    And…projection being the highly honed progressive tool that it is…check this one out:

    There are also security risks if he is exiled. He will not doubt share military and state secrets with Russia if he chooses to exile himself there. I’m sure he would take bribes, in the form of money or women, from the Chinese to share secrets with them.

    And, as for the rule of law types, this:

    Storming the Capitol during the certification of [electoral] votes all the proof we need of an attempt to seize power. The act bespeaks intent.

    And I still have 31 pages of comments to go…but I think you get the point.

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  30. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    philo (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):

    Interesting that you should use the word “blood lust.” I used those exact words repeatedly in responding to the most infamous post on Ricochet and the blood lust witnessed therein.

    I hope that by now those who exhibited that blood lust in the heat of the moment have repented. But I doubt it.

    Lest it be forgotten:

    Impeachment is not enough. An amendment to the constitution should be enacted creating a carve out to the prohibition on bills of attainder and exiling Trump, his family, staff and most prominent supporters the on pain of death if they return.

    The insurrectionists should be tried for treason fairly and once convicted, executed.

    1/6 is a terrorist attack on our country no less serious than 9/11. All other priorities must be put on hold until the perpetrators are brought to justice.

    More for the current record. The first response to that was:

    Indeed. I would say that this is worse than 9/11.

    Then this:

    Bloodlust has its time and place. This is it.

    and this:

    If you think bloodlust is incompatible with the spirit of liberty and republicanism you don’t know the history of those ideals. … Those who stormed the capitol should face the full penalty for treason…

    and this:

    This was an attempted coup to install a tyrant.

    And…projection being the highly honed progressive tool that it is…check this one out:

    There are also security risks if he is exiled. He will not doubt share military and state secrets with Russia if he chooses to exile himself there. I’m sure he would take bribes, in the form of money or women, from the Chinese to share secrets with them.

    And, as for the rule of law types, this:

    Storming the Capitol during the certification of [electoral] votes all the proof we need of an attempt to seize power. The act bespeaks intent.

    And I still have 31 pages of comments to go…but I think you get the point.

    Yes, pretty much a list of the Democrat spin. Funny, he makes no mention of the long-running coup against President Trump. Who on ricochet is his audience?

     

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