Environmentalists and Socialists Want to Kill Poor People

 

There’s an outstanding article up on American Greatness by Thaddeus G. McCotter.  Please read the whole thing.  He points out the the left is no longer interested in helping the poor and the working classes – rather than making the poor wealthier, now the left seeks to make everyone poorer, to protect their own wealth.  As Mr. McCotter says,

In sum, the WEF goal is not creation of prosperity, but the management of scarcity. In this, they have found a willing partner in the apocalyptic climate cult, which is more than happy to scare and coerce people into latching onto their mutual, radical, socialist agenda.

This may seem a bit over the top to some.  The author anticipates these criticisms and asks that you consider the following:

Sure, there will be those who dispute this. First, however, I would ask them to ponder the following: During my youth in the mid-1980s, I well recall Live Aid, where musicians combined to hold a fundraising concert to provide food to starving Ethiopians. There were songs, “Do They Know It’s Christmas” by Band Aid, and “We Are the World” by USA for Africa, as well as an album to provide further assistance to the hungry of Africa. There is even a remake of the Christmas song by Band Aid 30, released in 2014. It was a noble cause, recognizing that hunger is a political problem; and one that the creation of more food and its unfettered, humane distribution can ameliorate. Today, however, the EU supports farmland eradication to prevent climate change. If one wonders how the elites can promote and impose this policy to reduce the amount of food available in world where hunger has not been eradicated, one should acquaint themselves with the works of Thomas Robert Malthus.

So rather than feeding the hungry, today the left wants to ban modern farming.

If food gets more expensive, John Kerry can afford it.  But starving Africans cannot.  And apparently today’s left does not care.  Or, as the author points out, perhaps the left actually agrees with Malthus and modern environmentalists – humans are a cancer on the earth.  So fewer humans is better.  Omelets and eggs and all that.

So leftists are willing to kill poor people to make the earth nicer.  This place would be so much more pleasant without all those smelly brown people, you see.  With leftists, it can be difficult to discern apathy from sociopathic tendencies from thinly veiled hate.

But this is the beauty of democracy, right?  If we don’t like hateful vicious leftists, of course we can just vote them out of power, right?

Well, no.  Firstly, anyone willing to kill poor people for money or power is not likely to be above fixing an election using whatever means are at their disposal.  Second, their real power comes from unelected bureaucrats, NGOs, global organizations like the UN and WEF, and lots of other people you’ve never heard of who are not up for election.

The left is ruthless.  Maybe somebody like Donald Trump actually makes sense in this situation.  I can’t believe I’m saying that.  I’m not even sure I believe it – it’s difficult to wrap my head around.  Mr. Trump is a very difficult person to like, or to trust with dealing with delicate situations.

But we’re not up against JFK, here.  We’re up against an American left that cheats in elections and prosecutes its political opposition.  And we’re up against a global left which is increasingly open about its true goals, of reducing the number of people on earth by making everyone poorer and hungrier.  Such people obviously don’t play nice, so anyone effective at dealing with them is unlikely to be nice.

Tim Scott seems like a nice person.  I’d be happy to vote for him for President.  But I’m not sure he’s the type of person we need to take on today’s ruthless leftists.

I don’t see how this ends well.  Perhaps it can.  But when the left intentionally impoverishes and kills millions of people while publicly boasting of their virtue for doing so, they’re flirting with inciting violent uprisings around the world.  Perhaps all at once, when people start getting hungry.  And I’m sure the left knows that, and is presumably preparing for it.  My God.

I just don’t see how this ends well.

Perhaps the last great hope of Western Civilization rests with – ummm… – with Donald J. Trump.  My goodness.

These are strange times indeed.

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  1. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens linked to this article

    John Derbyshire quoted me in the context of the latest sentences on the January 6th “insurrectionists”. Dominic Pezzola broke a window at the Capitol and was given ten years; the government had asked for twenty. Joseph Biggs moved a crowd-control barrier and was sentenced to seventeen years; the government had wanted him banged up for thirty-three.

    So the prosecutors and the judges seem to have reached a cozy understanding that, whatever sentence the former demand, the Court will be totally reasonable and cut in half. You want another? The feds demanded thirty years for Zachary Rehl; the judge gave him fifteen. And this is after two-and-a-half years in gaol awaiting their “constitutional right” (don’t wave that constitution at me!) to a speedy trial.

    Oops, wait, I spoke too soon. The US Attorney wanted thirty-three years for Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, but this time the judge decided to up it to two-thirds of the feds’ demand: twenty-two years. For a guy who wasn’t in Washington on January 6th.

    Things aren’t normal anymore. Remember when Nixon got in trouble for paying people to spy on Democrats? Remember when leftists actually had Republican friends or cared about equality under the law? Remember when when the ACLU defended Nazis because they cared so much about freedom of speech? 

    We simply don’t live in that world anymore and for all of Trump’s oversimplification and bombast he gets it. 

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  2. Scott Wilmot Member
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    Dr. Bastiat: Second, their real power comes from unelected bureaucrats, NGO’s, global organizations like the UN & WEF, and lots of other people you’ve never heard of who are not up for election.

    And to me, John Kerry is the most dangerous of these unelected bureaucrats. He is a low IQ moron who sees himself as above reproach. Why do we need a “Climate Czar”? What purpose does he serve, other than what you point out in your essay: to kill poor people and to make us all poorer – in order to save the planet or something. I’d love to see an idiot like Kerry try to survive without a grocery store or without fossil fuels.

    To paraphrase, FJK.

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  3. EODmom Coolidge
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    You’ll get no argument from me. I think Obama thought he was being clever when he said (more than once) that the US’s days were  done and one of his “responsibilities” was to manage the decline. It seems a clear globalist strategy to me and making a smoother road to power most  places.  I don’t for a minute believe they really think they are making the world a better place by limiting food protection or restricting access to reliable, efficient and economical energy. Such rushes to power have never in the past ended cleanly or easily. 

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  4. MarciN Member
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    I’ve always wondered if Rush Limbaugh was the de facto head of the conservative movement and the Republican Party. He passed away February 17, 2021. I now think he was, and I don’t think things would be as bad as they are if he were alive. I really don’t. 

    He had a unique gift for describing the insanity of the left that no one else has. 

    People are not interchangeable parts. If you’re not at your station doing your job, the hordes will push over the wall. :) No one else can or will do the job God set out for you to do. 

    I think Rush’s absence from the political scene is part of the reason the Democrats have gone wild these past few years.

    I agree with Mark Steyn’s latest screed (hat tip to Bryan Stephens). These are not normal times, and this is not a normal political season. 

     

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  5. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Looks like Luke Skywalker just look off Klaus Schwab’s helmet.

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  6. MarciN Member
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    Postscript to comment 4: I don’t think Trump would be getting on people’s nerves as much as he is at the moment if Rush were still here. We all relax when we are around other people who see a situation the same way we do. 

     

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  7. Henry Castaigne Member
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    EODmom (View Comment):

    You’ll get no argument from me. I think Obama thought he was being clever when he said (more than once) that the US’s days were done and one of his “responsibilities” was to manage the decline. It seems a clear globalist strategy to me and making a smoother road to power most places. I don’t for a minute believe they really think they are making the world a better place by limiting food protection or restricting access to reliable, efficient and economical energy. Such rushes to power have never in the past ended cleanly or easily.

    When did Obama say that US was about managed decline?

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  8. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    You’ll get no argument from me. I think Obama thought he was being clever when he said (more than once) that the US’s days were done and one of his “responsibilities” was to manage the decline. It seems a clear globalist strategy to me and making a smoother road to power most places. I don’t for a minute believe they really think they are making the world a better place by limiting food protection or restricting access to reliable, efficient and economical energy. Such rushes to power have never in the past ended cleanly or easily.

    When did Obama say that US was about managed decline?

    He said it. Not going back to 2008 to find it.

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  9. EODmom Coolidge
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    EODmom (View Comment):

    You’ll get no argument from me. I think Obama thought he was being clever when he said (more than once) that the US’s days were done and one of his “responsibilities” was to manage the decline. It seems a clear globalist strategy to me and making a smoother road to power most places. I don’t for a minute believe they really think they are making the world a better place by limiting food protection or restricting access to reliable, efficient and economical energy. Such rushes to power have never in the past ended cleanly or easily.

    When did Obama say that US was about managed decline?

    He said it. Not going back to 2008 to find it.

    Not just 2008 – it was a kind of throw away comment in response to early challenge to his outlook. 

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  10. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
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    I am not convinced by McCotter’s conflation of socialism and environmentalism.  I once thought that this was true, and called environmentalists “watermelons” — green on the outside, red on the inside.  I think that it was historically correct that with the demise of Communism, a number of former Communists shifted to environmentalism.  However, I think that these two ideologies are quite different, both in policies and goals.

    In addition, I don’t see any evidence that large numbers of socialists or environmentalists “want to kill poor people.”  Their policies may lead to the deaths of some poor people, but this doesn’t appear to be their intention.  Socialists want to make poor people better off, while environmentalists want to prevent degradation of the environment, generally with the goal of saving people.  They may be misguided in their methods.

    I say “may” because, for example, I support many environmentalist policies.  I’m glad that lead-based paint was banned.  I’m glad that steps were taken to abate air pollution, which used to be quite bad, including the implementation of the catalytic converter and oxygenated fuels.  I remember how awful the air could be, in Tucson and Phoenix and LA, back in the day.  There are many other examples of pollution that used to be just terrible, before strict regulation of a variety of industries.

    I don’t think that “Klaus Schwab is Thanos” is a very good explanation for what is actually going on.

    I do think that most of the climate-change agenda is a bad idea.

    There is probably an overarching similarity between socialism and environmentalism, but both share that similarity with what I call American Liberalism and what many would call libertarianism or conservatarianism.  All are doctrines of secular salvation, in which adherence to the beliefs and policies of the movement will lead to something like Utopia.  They all seem to be substitutes for traditional religion.

    Unlike socialism and environmentalism, American Liberalism explicitly claims divine authority.  Though environmentalism does sometimes look like Gaia worship.  

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  11. Barfly Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I’ve always wondered if Rush Limbaugh was the de facto head of the conservative movement and the Republican Party. He passed away February 17, 2021. I now think he was, and I don’t think things would be as bad as they are if he were alive. I really don’t.

    He had a unique gift for describing the insanity of the left that no one else has.

    I think we’re past the point where calling it out and describing it is either necessary or productive. Nearly everybody knows by now. Even most of the stupid ones, and all of the venal ones.

    This is a dangerous time. Soon, the left and their elites will go a little too far. We won’t have much use for spokesmen and missionaries.

    Added later: https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2023/09/08/ca-assembly-passes-ab-957-the-affirm-your-childs-gender-choices-or-else-law-n576691

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  12. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    I am not convinced by McCotter’s conflation of socialism and environmentalism. I once thought that this was true, and called environmentalists “watermelons” — green on the outside, red on the inside. I think that it was historically correct that with the demise of Communism, a number of former Communists shifted to environmentalism. However, I think that these two ideologies are quite different, both in policies and goals.

    In addition, I don’t see any evidence that large numbers of socialists or environmentalists “want to kill poor people.” Their policies may lead to the deaths of some poor people, but this doesn’t appear to be their intention. Socialists want to make poor people better off, while environmentalists want to prevent degradation of the environment, generally with the goal of saving people. They may be misguided in their methods.

    I say “may” because, for example, I support many environmentalist policies. I’m glad that lead-based paint was banned. I’m glad that steps were taken to abate air pollution, which used to be quite bad, including the implementation of the catalytic converter and oxygenated fuels. I remember how awful the air could be, in Tucson and Phoenix and LA, back in the day. There are many other examples of pollution that used to be just terrible, before strict regulation of a variety of industries.

    I don’t think that “Klaus Schwab is Thanos” is a very good explanation for what is actually going on.

    I do think that most of the climate-change agenda is a bad idea.

    There is probably an overarching similarity between socialism and environmentalism, but both share that similarity with what I call American Liberalism and what many would call libertarianism or conservatarianism. All are doctrines of secular salvation, in which adherence to the beliefs and policies of the movement will lead to something like Utopia. They all seem to be substitutes for traditional religion.

    Unlike socialism and environmentalism, American Liberalism explicitly claims divine authority. Though environmentalism does sometimes look like Gaia worship.

    I think watermelon doesn’t apply anymore because they are red on the outside, too. The “degrowth” movement wants fewer people and less of the things that raise societies out of poverty. 

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  13. BDB Coolidge
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    In the 1990s I wrote a college essay or something along the lines of “Al Gore Wants You Dead!”

    It’s always been on display.  

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  14. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    Central planners will use anything to gain control. Environmentalism is just one tool for them to do it

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  15. Unsk Member
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    The message that the Woke Elitists want to kill or at least greatly harm the working poor and exploit their misery as a way to gain and maintain power is a very powerful one; in fact it could be a political game changer simply because many people in the back of their minds know it to be true.

    This message needs to be repeated from the rooftops over and over again.

    Thanks for the great post Good Doctor.

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  16. David Foster Member
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    The anti-affluence views of the present-day Left make a considerable contrast to the views of the earlier Left.  See remarks of the Fabian socialist Sidney Webb on what he called the Machine Age, which I excerpted here.

     

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  17. Red Herring Coolidge
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    David Foster (View Comment):

    The anti-affluence views of the present-day Left make a considerable contrast to the views of the earlier Left. See remarks of the Fabian socialist Sidney Webb on what he called the Machine Age, which I excerpted here.

     

    Reminds me of elite clubs full of rich people trying to keep others who could now afford it from joining or worse, creating membership fees do high only their kind could join. 

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  18. Chowderhead Coolidge
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    Unsk (View Comment):

    The message that the Woke Elitists want to kill or at least greatly harm the working poor and exploit their misery as a way to gain and maintain power is a very powerful one; in fact it could be a political game changer simply because many people in the back of their minds know it to be true.

    This message needs to be repeated from the rooftops over and over again.

    Thanks for the great post Good Doctor.

    The left has a well oiled machine for controlling the message. The average person on the left never follows the news or if they do they only go to Youtube, Reddit, etc. By default there is no message other than what the puppet masters choose to feed. A perfect example of this is the Hunter laptop story. Until recently nobody on the left knew anything about it.

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  19. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Dr. Bastiat: But we’re not up against JFK, here. 

    My nephew the astrophysicist has always said if you played JFK’s “ask not” speech to high school students, they’d think he was a Republican. Times have changed.

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  20. db25db Coolidge
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    I am not convinced by McCotter’s conflation of socialism and environmentalism. I once thought that this was true, and called environmentalists “watermelons” — green on the outside, red on the inside. I think that it was historically correct that with the demise of Communism, a number of former Communists shifted to environmentalism. However, I think that these two ideologies are quite different, both in policies and goals.

    In addition, I don’t see any evidence that large numbers of socialists or environmentalists “want to kill poor people.” Their policies may lead to the deaths of some poor people, but this doesn’t appear to be their intention. Socialists want to make poor people better off, while environmentalists want to prevent degradation of the environment, generally with the goal of saving people. They may be misguided in their methods.

    I say “may” because, for example, I support many environmentalist policies. I’m glad that lead-based paint was banned. I’m glad that steps were taken to abate air pollution, which used to be quite bad, including the implementation of the catalytic converter and oxygenated fuels. I remember how awful the air could be, in Tucson and Phoenix and LA, back in the day. There are many other examples of pollution that used to be just terrible, before strict regulation of a variety of industries.

    I don’t think that “Klaus Schwab is Thanos” is a very good explanation for what is actually going on.

    I do think that most of the climate-change agenda is a bad idea.

    There is probably an overarching similarity between socialism and environmentalism, but both share that similarity with what I call American Liberalism and what many would call libertarianism or conservatarianism. All are doctrines of secular salvation, in which adherence to the beliefs and policies of the movement will lead to something like Utopia. They all seem to be substitutes for traditional religion.

    Unlike socialism and environmentalism, American Liberalism explicitly claims divine authority. Though environmentalism does sometimes look like Gaia worship.

    I think watermelon doesn’t apply anymore because they are red on the outside, too. The “degrowth” movement wants fewer people and less of the things that raise societies out of poverty.

    Communism’s goal wasn’t to kill poor people either.  But it did.  Tens of millions.  We’ve got to stop judging movements based on their stated intent.

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  21. kedavis Coolidge
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    db25db (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    I am not convinced by McCotter’s conflation of socialism and environmentalism. I once thought that this was true, and called environmentalists “watermelons” — green on the outside, red on the inside. I think that it was historically correct that with the demise of Communism, a number of former Communists shifted to environmentalism. However, I think that these two ideologies are quite different, both in policies and goals.

    In addition, I don’t see any evidence that large numbers of socialists or environmentalists “want to kill poor people.” Their policies may lead to the deaths of some poor people, but this doesn’t appear to be their intention. Socialists want to make poor people better off, while environmentalists want to prevent degradation of the environment, generally with the goal of saving people. They may be misguided in their methods.

    I say “may” because, for example, I support many environmentalist policies. I’m glad that lead-based paint was banned. I’m glad that steps were taken to abate air pollution, which used to be quite bad, including the implementation of the catalytic converter and oxygenated fuels. I remember how awful the air could be, in Tucson and Phoenix and LA, back in the day. There are many other examples of pollution that used to be just terrible, before strict regulation of a variety of industries.

    I don’t think that “Klaus Schwab is Thanos” is a very good explanation for what is actually going on.

    I do think that most of the climate-change agenda is a bad idea.

    There is probably an overarching similarity between socialism and environmentalism, but both share that similarity with what I call American Liberalism and what many would call libertarianism or conservatarianism. All are doctrines of secular salvation, in which adherence to the beliefs and policies of the movement will lead to something like Utopia. They all seem to be substitutes for traditional religion.

    Unlike socialism and environmentalism, American Liberalism explicitly claims divine authority. Though environmentalism does sometimes look like Gaia worship.

    I think watermelon doesn’t apply anymore because they are red on the outside, too. The “degrowth” movement wants fewer people and less of the things that raise societies out of poverty.

    Communism’s goal wasn’t to kill poor people either. But it did. Tens of millions. We’ve got to stop judging movements based on their stated intent.

    Also laws, etc.  “Inflation Reduction Act” my @$$!

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  22. Western Chauvinist Member
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    db25db (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    I am not convinced by McCotter’s conflation of socialism and environmentalism. I once thought that this was true, and called environmentalists “watermelons” — green on the outside, red on the inside. I think that it was historically correct that with the demise of Communism, a number of former Communists shifted to environmentalism. However, I think that these two ideologies are quite different, both in policies and goals.

    In addition, I don’t see any evidence that large numbers of socialists or environmentalists “want to kill poor people.” Their policies may lead to the deaths of some poor people, but this doesn’t appear to be their intention. Socialists want to make poor people better off, while environmentalists want to prevent degradation of the environment, generally with the goal of saving people. They may be misguided in their methods.

    I say “may” because, for example, I support many environmentalist policies. I’m glad that lead-based paint was banned. I’m glad that steps were taken to abate air pollution, which used to be quite bad, including the implementation of the catalytic converter and oxygenated fuels. I remember how awful the air could be, in Tucson and Phoenix and LA, back in the day. There are many other examples of pollution that used to be just terrible, before strict regulation of a variety of industries.

    I don’t think that “Klaus Schwab is Thanos” is a very good explanation for what is actually going on.

    I do think that most of the climate-change agenda is a bad idea.

    There is probably an overarching similarity between socialism and environmentalism, but both share that similarity with what I call American Liberalism and what many would call libertarianism or conservatarianism. All are doctrines of secular salvation, in which adherence to the beliefs and policies of the movement will lead to something like Utopia. They all seem to be substitutes for traditional religion.

    Unlike socialism and environmentalism, American Liberalism explicitly claims divine authority. Though environmentalism does sometimes look like Gaia worship.

    I think watermelon doesn’t apply anymore because they are red on the outside, too. The “degrowth” movement wants fewer people and less of the things that raise societies out of poverty.

    Communism’s goal wasn’t to kill poor people either. But it did. Tens of millions. We’ve got to stop judging movements based on their stated intent.

    Exactly. I don’t judge intent. I judge fruits. And the Left’s fruits are all rotten in whatever form they take (abortion, climate change cult, sexual incontinence and confusion. . . )

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  23. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Communism’s goal wasn’t to kill poor people either. But it did. Tens of millions. We’ve got to stop judging movements based on their stated intent.

    Exactly. I don’t judge intent. I judge fruits. And the Left’s fruits are all rotten in whatever form they take (abortion, climate change cult, sexual incontinence and confusion. . . )

    I do think real intentions matter but stated intentions don’t. I wrote about what I consider the genuine intentions of the hard left. Spoiler alert, 

     

    Among the hard leftists is a hatred of what is good and beautiful is more of a motivation than compassion. We aren’t confronting nice but misguided people who just need to listen to some Thomas Sowell lectures. In our age, we are more comfortable with data points and meta-analysis and graphs. Those are all great if we are having a reasonable argument. But this isn’t about a disagreement of policy. We are confronting a spiritual nihilism and it’s time we act like it.

    If you come from a place of malevolence. It matters. 

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  24. Barfly Member
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    Dr. Bastiat: But we’re not up against JFK, here.  We’re up against an American left that cheats in elections and prosecutes its political opposition. 

    JFK’s election was fraudulent. Woodrow Wilson jailed his political opponents.

    The left are who they’ve always been.

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  25. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Barfly (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: But we’re not up against JFK, here. We’re up against an American left that cheats in elections and prosecutes its political opposition.

    JFK’s election was fraudulent. Woodrow Wilson jailed his political opponents.

    The left are who they’ve always been.

    Fair point. But why is it worse than it has ever been? I think it’s the media and the decline of traditional religion that makes some virtues more important than raw partisan politics. As Rob Long notes, “It isn’t that the media is leftist, it is that they are partisan democrats.”

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  26. Matt Bartle Member
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    We should do a Scott Adams-style reframe and just keep saying “netzero=genocide.”

     

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  27. Barfly Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Barfly (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: But we’re not up against JFK, here. We’re up against an American left that cheats in elections and prosecutes its political opposition.

    JFK’s election was fraudulent. Woodrow Wilson jailed his political opponents.

    The left are who they’ve always been.

    Fair point. But why is it worse than it has ever been? I think it’s the media and the decline of traditional religion that makes some virtues more important than raw partisan politics. As Rob Long notes, “It isn’t that the media is leftist, it is that they are partisan democrats.”

    It’s worse now because BHO had eight years to install his apparatchiks at all levels, then PDT made them panic. And because their investment in the corruption of teachers’ colleges has matured and is now paying real dividends. And because we’ve let Soros and Zuckerberg run free with their tremendous wealth. 

     

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  28. OmegaPaladin Moderator
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    Man, what a pathetic vision of the future!  These elites would rather everyone be worse off in exchange for them being relatively better off.   Also, if they believe inducing starvation while they live in luxury is a great idea, they better hope they can afford bodyguards, and enough for them as well.    If we have to eliminate people for the good of humanity, they are welcome to go first.

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  29. Globalitarian Misanthropist Coolidge
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    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    Man, what a pathetic vision of the future! These elites would rather everyone be worse off in exchange for them being relatively better off. Also, if they believe inducing starvation while they live in luxury is a great idea, they better hope they can afford bodyguards, and enough for them as well. If we have to eliminate people for the good of humanity, they are welcome to go first.

    Several years ago I read an article by a futurist who said the biggest question of rich bunker survivors was how do they keep their security team of SEALS complacent and submissive?  His answer was pay them very well, which in a collapsed civilization may mean nothing, and treat them and their families like family.  My take away was that, given enough time, whether months or years, they would no longer be submissive.

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  30. BDB Coolidge
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    Barfly (View Comment):
    It’s worse now because BHO had eight years to install his apparatchiks at all levels, then PDT made them panic.

    2012 really changed me.  I used to write a lot, but I just couldn’t after that.  I couldn’t believe that my country had seen socialism up close and decided that it wanted more.  The fight-tomorrow-not-today McConnell/Boehner/Ryan GOP gave us little to nothing in the way of meaningful opposition, and actively worked against attempts to make them perform.

    Trump was a breath of fresh air, and of course, the GOP largely threw in with the deep state to destroy that.  Still true to this day.

    The call is coming from inside the house.

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