Is It Already Too Late?

 

For those of you who will assume that I’m in one of my rare bad moods, please be assured that I’m actually feeling quite okay. The picture around me is dark, but my viewpoint is clarifying; I can’t remember a time when I seriously wanted—are you ready for this?–to be proven wrong. So, I’m asking everyone to convince me why I am wrong in my observations. And I truly wish you much success. I’m going to help you along in this effort. Here are some questions that I hope you can answer in the affirmative about the last six-plus years:

  1. Has any Democrat been accused of a crime and gone to jail?
  2. Has any Democrat been sanctioned, either in the administration or Executive Branch?
  3. Have any consequential laws been passed to control the border?
  4. Has any headway been made against controlling drugs crossing the border?
  5. Have we made any inroads against the cartels?
  6. Has any Biden legislation benefited this country more than harm it?
  7. Have you heard any Democrat protest the U.S. spending or deficit?
  8. Has any agency been sanctioned or punished in any way for illegal actions?
  9. Have any actions been taken to stop China’s advances?
  10. Has anyone heard about a plan for our participation in the Ukraine/Russia war?

This list is not meant to be comprehensive, but I’ve organized it to make a depressing but realistic point:

The Democrats cannot be stopped from their illegal, unconstitutional and destructive activities, nor can we force them to take actions that will benefit this country. And finally, no one will probably be held accountable for all the misdeeds they have committed.

All the Congressional committees in the world will not provide enough ammunition to intimidate the Democrats into changing their ways. The media won’t help us and will continue to stonewall as much as they can to protect the Democrat establishment. Although the Supreme Court has stopped some unconstitutional actions, it’s not their job to hold the line against the Democrats.

We have waited too long to seriously protest the Democrats and the intelligence agencies and they have no incentive to pull back from their outrageous activities.

We cannot stop them in the current climate.

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So, shall we just cave in completely and give up? Believe it or not, I think we must dig in and fight harder than ever. But unlike continuing to pursue the strategies we’ve been using up until now, we must think outside the box and create an enormous cacophony of protest. We must be louder, more persistent than ever, in a way that we simply can’t be ignored. We must do it in unconventional venues. We must do it repeatedly, with the rhetoric clearly defined, to be shared verbally and in our signage. Our activities must be unceasing, persistent and obstinate, but orderly, legal and without violence. This last point is key, because the Dems and the media will do everything in their power to characterize us as crazy or radical, so we must be deliberate and not over-the-top. We must speak in a unified voice that will declare we are trying, not to save just the Republican party, but the whole country.

The time is now.

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  1. Rodin Member
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    Resist, but prepare for the future underground movement. 

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  2. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Rodin (View Comment):
    future underground movement

    This is the first time I’ve seen this phrase. Is there actually something going on, or are you anticipating this development?

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  3. Django Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):
    future underground movement

    This is the first time I’ve seen this phrase. Is there actually something going on, or are you anticipating this development?

    If he were, would he publicly acknowledge it? I don’t think it would be an “underground” movement then. 

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  4. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Django (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):
    future underground movement

    This is the first time I’ve seen this phrase. Is there actually something going on, or are you anticipating this development?

    If he were, would he publicly acknowledge it? I don’t think it would be an “underground” movement then.

    Good point. 

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  5. MarciN Member
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    I am horrified by the 22-year prison sentence given to Enrique Tarrio for some role he played in the January 6 protest-gone-wrong. He wasn’t even there.

    This is what the prosecutor said:

    “Tarrio has repeatedly and publicly indicated that he has no regrets about what he helped make happen on January 6,” prosecutors wrote.

    But this is what Tarrio said at his trial:

    Tarrio spoke before the court, admitting his mistakes, and apologized to members of law enforcement.

    Tarrio pleaded for leniency, describing Jan. 6 as a “national embarrassment,” and apologizing to the police officers who defended the Capitol and the lawmakers who fled in fear. He expressed remorse for letting down his family and vowed that he was done with politics.

    “I am not a political zealot. Inflicting harm or changing the results of the election was not my goal,” Tarrio said.

    He asked U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly, “please show me mercy” and that he “not take my 40s from me.”

    In other words, Tarrio expressed remorse and apologized in public. His own words are a direct contradiction of the prosecutor’s. Yet the prosecutor prevailed in this case.

    Tarrio was actually an informant for federal and local law enforcement between 2012 and 2014.

    After reading that story, who in his or her right mind is going to look sideways at the Biden administration?

    Furthermore, the four indictments against Trump have to be viewed as an attempt to silence not only Trump but anyone who dares question the legality of the next election. Keep in mind that the Democrats have changed their own primary rules for 2024. Hillary Clinton did this too–changed the rules so she could win the primary in 2016. And the Biden campaign did something dastardly to Bernie Sanders in 2019. I forget what it was, but it ticked off a lot of people, but they did it anyway. The Biden group answers to no one, not even in their own party.

    Meanwhile, the truckers today are warning the country about the new EPA rules that will mandate electric vehicle (EV) trucks in the near future.

    There are so many illegal immigrants in New York City right now that the city is nearly falling apart.

    I don’t think we are ever getting out of this mess.

    The south will end up looking like Mexico–controlled by the drug cartels. And the north will look like some version of welfare-state Canada.

    I think Republicans are in a psychological war with the Democrats and we are losing.

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  6. Terry Mott Member
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    I think we need to stop thinking of ourselves as “conservatives”.  There’s little left to conserve of our constitutional republic; it must be re-established if it is to exist again.  I’m not sure what to use instead — counter-revolutionaries, maybe?

    We can’t allow ourselves to be cowed or distracted by being called radical or extremist.  As Goldwater said, “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And…moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

    We are now the avant-garde.  The sooner we accept and embrace that, the better our tactics can be formed.

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  7. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    MarciN (View Comment):
    I think Republicans are in a psychological war with the Democrats and we are losing.

    I can’t disagree with anything you’ve written, Marci. It’s horrible and frightening to contemplate where we are heading.

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  8. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    I think we need to stop thinking of ourselves “conservatives”. There’s little left to conserve of our constitutional republic; it must be re-established if it is to exist again. I’m not sure what to use instead — counter-revolutionaries, maybe?

    We can’t allow ourselves to be cowed or distracted by being called radical or extremist. As Goldwater said, “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And…moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

    We are now the avant-garde. The sooner we accept and embrace that, the better our tactics can be formed.

    Excellent points, Terry. What they decide to call us is irrelevant. Any effort we make to take back the country will be criticized and radicalized in the Left’s descriptions. We must stop worrying about what they think and say.

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  9. Hugh Member
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    Ah Susan,

    you ask such easy questions:  No.

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  10. Terry Mott Member
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    Serendipitously, here’s the latest from Kurt Schlichter:

    https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2023/09/07/stop-dooming-n2628004

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  11. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Hugh (View Comment):

    Ah Susan,

    you ask such easy questions: No.

    They garner simple answers!

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  12. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    Serendipitously, here’s the latest from Kurt Schlichter:

    https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2023/09/07/stop-dooming-n2628004

    Thanks, Terry. I do hope, however, that I’m not predicting doom UNLESS, we keep doing the same old things! Those old strategies haven’t worked and they only give us false hope. We have to try harder and better!

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  13. cdor Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):
    future underground movement

    This is the first time I’ve seen this phrase. Is there actually something going on, or are you anticipating this development?

    Susan, he did say it was the future and it was underground.

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  14. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    cdor (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):
    future underground movement

    This is the first time I’ve seen this phrase. Is there actually something going on, or are you anticipating this development?

    Susan, he did say it was the future and it was underground.

    Yeah, I know, but I’m feeling a bit of desperation. Sorry.

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  15. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    I totally felt that we were done the day of the Nov 2016 election.

    I had had it with the Clinton Crime Family and every mainstream media outlet was screaming out that  Hillary would win.

    I had little interest in Trump either.

    But the moment my spouse woke me from a deep sleep, at around 12:10Am eastern time, and said “Trump is going to win this,” I felt like God had been involved.

    The TV commentators were still saying “Well she can get Florida! So don’t give up.”

    I began thinking: “Don’t get Florida. Please don’t let this scumbag  get Florida.”

    And she didn’t.

    When I get depressed about the political scene, I now  try and remember that in 2015, I did not even know who big city realtor  Donald Trump was, other than his multi-marriages to women who appeared to determine the NYC social set.

    But whatever or Whoever it was that decided that he would be president from 2017 to Jan 2021 offered us a glimpse into what can happen for the good.

    So we do not know what is in store for us. It could be horrendous and all signs seem to be pointed that way.

    There is hope right now because the veil clung to by the public is being shredded. Right now half the public are thinking that  the people in our “health agencies” deserve only massive amounts of contempt. (Plus tribunals for crimes against humanity)

    The fire in Lahaina also has removed the veil clung to by the public regarding what is going on with the major war on rural people everywhere.

    There is also hope because there are so many things on going with regards to election integrity. Especially significant are legal developments in Arizona.

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):
    Especially significant are legal developments in Arizona.

    Something new I hadn’t heard about?

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  17. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):
    Especially significant are legal developments in Arizona.

    Something new I hadn’t heard about?

    An August 30th or 31st 2023 legal ruling.

    Pls note, this has been reported across multiple media platforms, but the following is not behind a paywall:

    https://www.sott.net/article/484071-Judge-rules-Kari-Lake-lawsuit-seeking-mail-in-ballot-signatures-will-go-to-trial?ysclid=lm9j9qzpra612912991

    From the article:

    Arizona Republican candidate Kari Lake announced an upcoming trial date in a lawsuit to acquire mail-in ballot signatures nearly a year after the November 2022 midterm election.”We are scheduled for a 2-day trial set for September 21 & 25th,” Mrs. Lake wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, over the weekend.

    “I will never stop fighting for Honest & Transparent Elections.” In a separate statement to The Gateway Pundit, Mrs. Lake also said that the recent court order “is a huge victory for election transparency.” “We’re moving forward,” she said.

    Superior Court Judge John R. Hannah Jr. wrote (pdf) on Aug. 24 that a two-day trial will start on Sept. 21 at 9 a.m., with exhibits that will be submitted during the trial due by Sept. 14.

    #####################################################

    My comment: I think the matter has to do with not only signatures on ballots being properly authenticated but also information on the envelopes used for the mail in ballots.

    IIRC, Arizona’s Maricopa County was one of the places where ballots were returned the same day that  they were mailed out. This  could indicate the ballots  were filled out in the county election official office and  then taken directly to the US Post Office in the early Am, without ever actually arriving at voter’s residences. (Which has a certain  logic to it, as getting deceased Dems to answer the mail does present logistical problems.)

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  18. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):
    Especially significant are legal developments in Arizona.

    Something new I hadn’t heard about?

    Oh and this snippet from a Gateway Pundit article posted about four hours ago on the Lake-election matters:

    “Lake is still fighting her lawsuit against Maricopa County’s rigged midterm election. As The Gateway Pundit recently reported, Lake’s lawsuit to obtain public record evidence of fraudulent mail-in ballot signatures from Maricopa County will be  going to trial on September 21 and 25. Lake’s attorneys are expected to file an appeal to the dismissal of her election challenge and fight it all the way to the US Supreme Court if necessary.”

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  19. Steve Fast Coolidge
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    [I double-clicked and my comment got double-posted.]

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  20. Steve Fast Coolidge
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    Too late for what? To restore an America based on the founding? To save a piece of the Heartland for liberty? To roll back the worst of the O’Biden terms?

    I say no, it’s not too late for even the best possible outcome, but any good outcome will require our nation to turn back to God.

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  21. Annefy Member
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    Is it too late?

    Yes

     

    But I think you’re thinking too small. It’s tempting to think all our problems are on the left. In reality, there’s corruption on the right, as well. That combined with institutional fecklessness means that yes, it’s too late. And our problems won’t be solved by “elections”. 

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  22. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):
    I think Republicans are in a psychological war with the Democrats and we are losing.

    I can’t disagree with anything you’ve written, Marci. It’s horrible and frightening to contemplate where we are heading.

    States need to be planning pushback as a state. Interesting paragraph from a weekly Sabato letter, this one about differences between cities and small communities.

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  23. kedavis Coolidge
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):
    I think Republicans are in a psychological war with the Democrats and we are losing.

    I can’t disagree with anything you’ve written, Marci. It’s horrible and frightening to contemplate where we are heading.

    States need to be planning pushback as a state. Interesting paragraph from a weekly Sabato letter, this one about differences between cities and small communities.

    Apparently the swing of black voters to Trump for 2024 is even larger than it was before, and the Dims depend so much on the black vote that it doesn’t take much of a swing to doom them.  Of course, if 2024 is another Fraud-Fest that still won’t matter.

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  24. Rodin Member
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  25. DrewInWisconsin, Œuf Member
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    Annefy (View Comment):

    Is it too late?

    Yes

    But I think you’re thinking too small. It’s tempting to think all our problems are on the left. In reality, there’s corruption on the right, as well. That combined with institutional fecklessness means that yes, it’s too late. And our problems won’t be solved by “elections”.

    It’s the political class vs. the citizen class. And has been for a long time.

    Both parties vs. the proles.

    Anyone got an idea how we, the powerless, can pull down the seats of power? Short of revolution? Or is revolution necessary?

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  26. Annefy Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):

    Annefy (View Comment):

    Is it too late?

    Yes

    But I think you’re thinking too small. It’s tempting to think all our problems are on the left. In reality, there’s corruption on the right, as well. That combined with institutional fecklessness means that yes, it’s too late. And our problems won’t be solved by “elections”.

    It’s the political class vs. the citizen class. And has been for a long time.

    Both parties vs. the proles.

    Anyone got an idea how we, the powerless, can pull down the seats of power? Short of revolution? Or is revolution necessary?

    I don’t have an answer. Almost guaranteed, though, it won’t be through traditional methods 

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  27. WillowSpring Member
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    Susan Quinn: This list is not meant to be comprehensive, but I’ve organized it to make a depressing but realistic point:

    11. Has any action of the Biden administration benefited America more than one or more foreign countries – including sworn enemies?

     

    int:  If you do protest, don’t wear a buffalo head.

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  28. Freeven Member
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    It’s always been too late. Putting people in charge of things leads to bad outcomes — but that’s what we’re stuck with.

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  29. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    Too late for what? To restore an America based on the founding? To save a piece of the Heartland for liberty? To roll back the worst of the O’Biden terms?

    I say no, it’s not too late for even the best possible outcome, but any good outcome will require our nation to turn back to God.

    That’s a huge barrier to get over. Do you see something that I don’t?

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  30. Painter Jean Moderator
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    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):

    Annefy (View Comment):

    Is it too late?

    Yes

    But I think you’re thinking too small. It’s tempting to think all our problems are on the left. In reality, there’s corruption on the right, as well. That combined with institutional fecklessness means that yes, it’s too late. And our problems won’t be solved by “elections”.

    It’s the political class vs. the citizen class. And has been for a long time.

    Both parties vs. the proles.

    Anyone got an idea how we, the powerless, can pull down the seats of power? Short of revolution? Or is revolution necessary?

    I don’t think it’s as simple as that. Do you ever talk with family members and neighbors who are on the Left? I do, and I can tell you that it’s not just a relatively small political elitist class vs. us, the proles – it’s us against a very sizeable chunk of the American people. None of the liberal people I talk to are wealthy, let alone in the political class, but they are mostly on board with the progressive agenda. (The one exception I’ve found is the transgender insanity – even my liberal neighbors and my liberal sister and brother-in-law find that a bridge too far.) And mind you, there are plenty of these people in my quiet little town, in a county that consistently votes Republican. The “enemy” isn’t just some distant, easily vilified political class, it’s your neighbors and family members.

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