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The Voting Machines Need to Go
The voting machines America is currently using need to go. They breed mistrust, and there’s a reason for that: They are not trustworthy. They are also inherently undemocratic.
No, I’m not talking about 2020–well, not as such. I’m talking about all the past elections since we started using these machines, as well as all the future ones until we come to our senses.
These Machines Are Antithetical to Democracy
Let’s do the second problem first. Here’s a question that pretty much answers itself:
Can a system be democratic if the people are not permitted to know how their votes are counted?
It’s not a democratic system unless the people have freedom to vote and have some understanding of how their votes are counted. So why are we using machines that have secret coding to count the votes? That’s one reason why the voting machines need to go: Their coding is kept secret. Get rid of those machines, and replace them with paper and pen, or with machines that use open-source software.
A related question also pretty much answers itself:
Can a system be democratic if the people are not even capable of knowing how their votes are counted?
Again, it’s not a democratic system unless the people have freedom to vote and have some understanding of how their votes are counted. Under the current system, only people with years of training in just the right areas of computer science are even capable of understanding how votes are counted. So why are we using machines that use fractions to count votes, instead of just simple arithmetic?
And why are we using machines that condemn us to ignorance about how a vote-count is going until the software is updated? Why are we using machines that guarantee an election cannot be run smoothly unless election workers are properly trained in the new technology? These aren’t online Trumpy conspiracy theories, mind you–this is the New York Times!
And why are we using machines where you can’t know how your vote is being counted–or understand much of what anyone even says about how they’re counted–without understanding what a router is, whether it’s connected, what a LAN is, what a firewall is, what a batch is, what packets are, what packet captures are, what an IP address is, what logic and accuracy tests are, what a client is, what a server is, what domain controls are, what computer logs are, and how to read those logs?
That’s another reason why the voting machines need to go: Their workings are an inherent mystery to the voters.
Get rid of those machines, and replace them with paper and pen, or maybe with machinery no more complex than the Scantron machine you remember from high school. Use open-source technology that doesn’t need a lot of software updates, doesn’t require any fancy training, and isn’t a mystery to anyone–or, at a bare minimum, that isn’t a mystery to your neighbor, uncle, or friend who at least knows computers and engineering enough to program a machine to count. I don’t know how to do that, but it makes a big difference that people I know can understand such technology. But no one I’ve ever met knows what’s going on inside these voting machines.
They Are Not Trustworthy
To some extent, you need only read the above.
To a greater extent, the massive untrustworthiness of these machines is best understood by carefully reading what Dominion Voting Systems actually says about their machines, reading an important report from a committee in the Michigan State Senate, and letting G. K. Chesterton remind us what sanity looks like.
Hath it not been said by Dominion Voting Systems?
Voting systems are, by design, meant to be used as closed systems that are not networked (meaning not connected to the Internet). It is technologically impossible to “see” votes being counted in real-time and/or to “flip” them.
Were the machines incapable of online connectivity, would Dominion not simply say that?
Well, many vote-counting machines really do have online capabilities, including some but not all Dominion machines and not only Dominion machines; see this NBC News story, for example. But, more importantly, see page 22 of this report from a committee of the Senate of Michigan:
A report from the Michigan Senate Oversight Committee:
Upon completion of the election, tabulators print the final results on paper. Clerks then connect a modem and transmit by secure, cellular connection or transfer by flash drive the unofficial results to the county clerk.
The Report then says the second-most important thing I’ve ever read about voting machines, consigning it to a footnote in miserably small font size: Voting machines (not including Dominion products in Michigan, apparently) have internal modems, but don’t worry:
…they are not turned on until the polls are closed and tabulation has concluded.
So first the machine counts the votes, then it prints the results on paper, and only after that is it allowed to access the internet for the fast, electronic reporting of provisional results. Or, for some of the machines, to be accessed by a USB drive for the same purpose.
In other words, the technology is secure if we keep all the modems off till the right time. Our elections are secure if we use the technology correctly.
Hence some wisdom from Father Brown, G. K. Chesterton’s mystery-solving priest in a book named after his wisdom, is the most important thing I’ve read about voting machines. Father Brown is explaining “The Mistake of the Machine” in a story bearing that name, and he says this:
“You always forget,” observed his companion [Father Brown], “that the reliable machine always has to be worked by an unreliable machine.”
“Why, what do you mean?” asked the detective.
“I mean Man,” said Father Brown, “the most unreliable machine I know of.”
The voting machines are not safe if they are not used properly. The only way for them to be used properly is for there to be safeguards in place–starting with something on the order of rules in 50 states saying no such machine may be used to count votes until poll observers from both parties plus government officials swear in writing that the modems are switched off.
If those rules were in place, we’d have had their existence and important drummed into our skulls by every fact-checking punk from CNN to the state governments. But that hasn’t happened. Therefore, the voting machines are not trustworthy.
We should listen to the feds–if only just this once. Specifically, we should listen to the Election Assistance Commission, a US government agency, laying down VVSG 2.0 standards–“Voluntary Voting System Guidelines 2.0”–right here. Those rules require “systems to be air-gapped from other networks and disallows the use of wireless technologies.”
That’s right–not only do voting machines with online connectivity exist, but even the feds recognize that this is a problem, and they tell us we should get rid of them.
A broken clock is once twice a day, and once if it’s a federal government clock on military time that broke down in the afternoon. But now is that time.
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Using USB devices to carry records around isn’t foolproof either. USB devices – not just cables, but devices! – have interface chips in them that can be “hacked” to do other things.
Haven’t read all the responses, but I’d like to know what type of voting machines others on this thread find themselves voting on during elections.
The only type of voting machine that I think I’ve ever used over many decades in a number of different localities is a paper ballot filled out by filling in an oval with a pen, then you personally feed the ballot into a machine that sucks it in and reads it. In my entire life I don’t think I’ve ever seen any other type of voting machine. I live in a large metro-suburban type area in a purple state.
SA, is this the type of machine you are talking about in your post? Is this the type of machine Dominion makes? If not, can you describe the type of system you are talking about? What exactly does the voter do to cast a vote on the type of machine you’re describing?
I know next to nothing. Since 2012 I’ve been mailing absentee ballots to Galveston County. I do remember entering votes on a computer screen in Waco and/or Dallas in the old days. I’ve forgotten what it was like voting in GA in 2010 and the 2012 primaries.
Machines I’m talking about in the post are the ones I’m talking about in the post–above all, any that connect to the internet. Follow the links if you want examples or further details.
I suppose it’s possible that the machines I’ve always used also count votes in fractions and connect to the internet, thereby calling their integrity into question. But they are based on paper ballots.
A first line of defense. But not enough all by itself.
Every state and county government would do well if they implemented VVSG 2.0 standards. But they would do better if they did more.
This is the kind we voted on for many years, up until 15-20 years ago. Now it’s the little scanners that you describe.
Back in the 80s when I interviewed for a job in the pharmaceutical industry, they didn’t do updates until they had been certified (by the FDA, I think). The only OS and app software that was used was that which had been certified. There was no installing of updates just because they were the latest. I don’t know if that changed for the pharmaceuticals since then, but it would be a good policy for election equipment (minus the FDA involvement, of course).
I remember this from when I was a kid, like in the 70s. I’d go in the voting booth with my mom or dad. You set the selectors where you want them, then pull a lever which causes a punch card to be punched.
My question is, are there voting machines being used today where there’s no paper ballot or record? Like punching your selection on a video screen? I’ve never personally seen one like that.
Pittsburgh, 1976?
I’ve voted that way in Texas several times. I think the only paper ballots I’ve used in Texas were the dumb absentee mailing ones.
It’s been more than 10 years, but I doubt there are fewer machines now.
Not the same thing, but I’m familiar with a defense contractor who’s policy was “security patches/releases WILL be installed within 14 days of release. If they break something, you can fix it after the fact.”
Well, well.
The YT headline is not accurate. It didn’t ban anything as far as I can tell.
The YT content is good.
The Newsweek article is terrible. They wrote a story about Mike Lindell, barely mentioned the actual news, and didn’t even link to the ruling as far as I could determine. Pathetic leftist stupidity.
Before there was Internet voting machines were hacked using USB devices. Since OSes run whatever a USB device presents to them as device driver software with system privileges, it was very easy. If you had physical access.
We have them in California as well. I’ve voted on paper ballots my whole life, I didn’t realize this was uncommon.
Did we, though? Did we get official results the same night? The networks made a call and announced a winner, and often the losing candidate gave a concession speech, but counting may have gone on in the background for days or weeks with no one paying any attention.
Partly this was just an artifact of fewer close elections: Mondale didn’t exactly need to wait until every vote was counted to realize he’d lost.
Then there’s the famous “Dewey Defeats Truman” headline, so the problem of news media reporting election results prematurely dates back at least to the 1940’s.
I think newspapers had much earlier deadlines then too.
Same here.
Neither have I.
Many places these days have kind of a two-way system where you use a touch-screen to make selections which are then printed onto a ballot sheet, that then gets read by another computer for counting.
Newspapers go to print early.
They still figured out that Truman won that same night.
18 likes, and well deserved.
I guess I neglected to mention it on this thread, but a surprising number of people seem to believe that computers are simply incapable of counting wrong, even if deliberately programmed to do so.
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