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Constitutional Crisis: America Is There
We frequently hear the line used in the midst of some political turmoil that it will cause a constitutional crisis.
In my opinion, we essentially have been in a constitutional crisis since Donald Trump was elected POTUS in 2016. The crisis has worsened with time, resulting in the office of the President being placed in the hands of a man, Joe Biden, who was not the choice of the American people.
Donald Trump’s election and performance as President have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the causes of the crisis except insofar as those who oppose Donald Trump have acted illegally and unconstitutionally in that oppositional mode. The cause of the constitutional crisis is the continuing unreliability of the established election process. The crisis persists because government is failing Americans at all levels.
America must correct this condition in the 2024 election or the American Constitution is dead along with the American Republic.
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Pretty sure that won’t happen and the crisis will deepen. They will use COVID again to shut us down at the point of a gun, using national force this time.
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Any proper recording of our recent history should reflect exactly as you have written here. Unfortunately, any attempts to view that history from the perspective of a decade or so from now will be hidden behind the massive calamity that will be the next four to six years. God help us.
It will not be corrected because that flawed election process benefits those currently in power.
Never let the Constitution die. It must take priority over how many stars are on our beautiful flag, as long as those stars represent our states. We need to have serious, non-violent pushback. It is too late for a convention of the states. Draft a New Declaration of Independence and serve notice they have gone too far. Form a committee to draft rules for splitting the country up. Unless we at least draft something, they will not take us seriously. If they double down and start jailing us, grab the Constitution and flag, serve the documents, and eject. Don’t let the blue states take us down with them. The 2-4 countries we would become could still unite as alliance, like Europe.
Just tell blue states that we are sorry our ways and our Constitution no longer are compatible and they are free to go away. Why wait on 2028. We already have been told we can’t win in 2024. What we have is untenable. Letting it continue only kicks the can down the road for our children to deal with.
We must preserve the Constitution and prevent violence. In a perfect world, we would restore federalism but we no longer have a perfect world.
Do I think our side will do any of this? No, I think they will ride the ship down. They will prefer a slow economic decline to a disruptive one.
It looks to me that the Constitution died in the last few decades. The country will continue to get worse until it completely fails. With luck I will not live to see it. I am glad I was wise enough not to create children to live into the next part. It would be interesting to see how the next country writes about this joke of a country.
If you consider that people overall seem to be getting stupider not smarter, those people might think “Wow, THEY sure had it good!”
I have no regrets that I have children and grandchildren.
At that point, we will have one of the major problems faced during the period of the Articles of Confederation – that is, we will no longer be the major defensible country we have been.
I can only imagine the plans being made in Russia, China, Iran and North Korea.
I don’t either. I do fear for their future and that of America.
I worry a lot about the future for my children and grandchildren. We have created so much law that applying it to people has become an issue of power rather than justice.
Mark Steyn once said, paraphrasing, that America’s strength was in the brevity of the Constitution. He said the European Union had volumes of laws and regulations that no one person could ever know or intuit. He said in America, a guy could carry the Constitution folded up in his back pocket. :) Interesting since the idea of a few clear rules that are logical and consistently enforced is a major principle of raising happy healthy well-adjusted kids, and it’s something I lived by as a mom.
What I see in the prosecution of Donald Trump is a power play that we enabled by not reigning in our government at the local, state, and federal levels. We’ve handed the bullets to people who want to hurt other people, not help them. We are all vulnerable in this new legal environment.
Trump will have my vote if he is anywhere on my ballot because he hasn’t given in to them. I don’t know what any human being could have done more than he has done to fight back in this darkening hour.
More a persecution than a prosecution. Most of my concern as we get ready for this next election is what the evil forces have been and are doing specifically directed at Trump and MAGA supporters. It is impossible to find any act committed by Trump during his Presidency that is significantly wrong much less illegal (that is not saying Trump could not have done better), all the charges against him are fabricated. OTOH, it is very disconcerting to think we live in a country where the people can allow and approve of what we have experienced with Joe Biden.
The future belongs to those who show up. No kids, no say in the future.
meanwhile, it was not a constitutional crisis when an unelected permanent bureaucracy pushed the Steele Dossier/Russian Collusion on the sitting president.
And most of our elected Republicans were uninterested in opposing that, because it targeted the enemy both shared: Donald Trump.
Well, as stated in the OP, in my opinion, that was the start point of the constitutional crisis. Actually originally initiated by the Clinton Democrat National Committee election campaign and the bureaucracy joined right in. Oh, I guess the bureaucracy was in it, the intel community, from the start.
And the entire scheme had the approval of the sitting president no later than late July 2016.
Did John MCCain help with that as well?
We can be a smaller, free country that could unite like NATO or we can be a weak oppressed country. You can’t argue that a leftie Dem country would be strong defensively. We have already ceded that. Alliances would exist. Politics would be more homogeneous unlike the incompatible ideologies we have now. I would never support any effort that didn’t bring the Constitution, National Anthem, Declaration of Independence, and flag with it. The object is to save this constitutional republic, not replace it. There is nothing magical about 50. We have had many numbers from 13 up to 50. This wouldn’t be necessary if the federal government had stayed within its enumerated powers.
Every generation has had its cross to bear. Such is life. Freedom and prosperity are not a given but must be earned.
Exactly. Many founders held very doubtful prospects that the original republic of 13 states could survive an expansion across the continent and they were prescient.
It was a constitutional issue because the president was denied some of his ability to govern as intended. It was, and still is, a coup. Perhaps we should look on it as a constitutional crisis. The Dem actions crossed the red line and have led to conversations like this that none of us really wish to have.
Sounds like a GA RICO case.
But a real one, with intent, at the Federal level.
I agree with all of this except for the part about not creating offspring. The future belongs to those who show up. Leftists have low fertility because they are too busy changing their ‘gender’ (whatever that means), having abortions, and being homosexual. They live in the now without past or future.
The empire will fall and something else will replace it. The replacement state will not be populated by the denizens of a dysphoric, dysgenic carnival sideshow.
The only way forward is acting through your state. Elect legislators that take election security seriously. Push them to take back THEIR role in certifying electors and not issuing a blank check to the vote tabulators.
It’s harder to rig every district in a state than one precinct, so make your state legislators count because that’s who you have ultimate power to choose to represent you.
Work to get a constitutional majority of states and their legislatures that are convinced there’s a crisis and convene to repeal the 17th amendment themselves, giving power over senate selection back to the legislators and NOT one giant blue city in the state. They are our state presidents that represent the entire state’s interest in congress. Not just Maricopa County’s.
Reinstate state guards to protect state’s citizens against the excesses of the federal government. It is through state guards that militias should be organized.
Get state legislators to review state constitutions on state laws regarding voting. Push for limits on who can vote based on years of residency to prevent Californians from shaping YOUR states’ laws and culture.
Finally, set up charities that offer moving services for disaffected liberals and help them find residence in the neighboring blue state.
I don’t think all is lost. I don’t think it will be easy and I think there will be failure along the way, but I’m fairly confident that the only way forward is to stop looking for the federal government to save us.
Helpful reminder about who is having children and who is not (h/t @eustacecscrubb):
https://twitter.com/capeandcowell/status/1695205016577962030
I think I would rather have been Rick Rolled.
Disney’s new target demo.
I think there’s truth to this.
Or, shall we say, there’s a huge Disney fanbase comprised of adults who do not have children, will never have children, and are . . . something other than heretosexual.
And I’m hearing reports that Disney theme parks are . . . kinda empty. There could be many reasons for this. The popular idea is that families no longer go to Disney because they’ve become family-unfriendly. I suspect it’s more about how much it costs to take your family there. But if you and your same-sex partner have a crapload of disposable income — no children to care for — then going to Disney is no big deal.
For normies with kids, it’s been priced out of your ability to visit.
Well on the whole, I prefer they spend the money on going to Disneyland rather than buying a baby to raise from someone or somewhere else.