Goodbye, Breaking Bad

 

Sunday nights just won’t be the same now, will they?  I thought it was a fitting ending for an excellent series, one of the best ever. Did you watch? Ricochetti, please share your thoughts below.

(Apologies to Valiuth, who already posted on this over at the Member Feed).

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    @JaredLarsen

    Contemplate these lyrics and tell me this is not a superlative use of music to narrate a scene, in a series that used music very well.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkA7xQb6uPk

    Baby Blue – Badfinger

    Guess I got what I deservedKept you waiting there too long, my loveAll that time without a wordDidn’t know you’d think that I’d forget or I’d regretThe special love I had for you, my baby blue All the days became so longDid you really think, I’d do you wrong?Dixie, when I let you goThought you’d realize that I would knowI would show the special love I have for you, my baby blue What can I do, what can I sayExcept I want you by my sideHow can I show you, show me the wayDon’t you know the times I’ve tried? Guess that’s all I have to sayExcept the feeling just grows stronger every dayJust one thing before I goTake good care, baby, let me know, let it growThe special love you have for me, my Dixie, dear.
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    @MichaelKnudsen

    Absolutely perfect ending. I’m very happy a (now former) co-worker of mine turned me on to the show earlier this year, in time for me to catch up with the final eight. 

    It did everything I wanted it to do, and everything it needed to do to be complete. Fantastic. 

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    @PonyConvertible

    Never saw an episode.

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    @ScottKlappenbach

    Certainly agree with posted opinions, but two minor questions…what was the significance of leaving the wrist watch on the pay phone ? And exactly when did Walter get the gun?

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    @JeffChristian

       The last episode was indeed fully satisfying, but was it too satisfying?  All the bad guys got what they deserved, all the victims, save Jesse’s girlfriend, survived.  Did Walt get more than he deserved, turning evil and all?  Should he have died knowing he met his goal?  Isn’t the real world more tragic and messy than this?  Consider the way “The Shield” ended.

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    @CommodoreBTC

    Last episode was a little by the numbers and lacking the usual creativity/surprise we expect. The basic notes played out pretty much as people predicted.

    but overall was still good

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    @KimK
    Pony Convertible: Never saw an episode. · 28 minutes ago

    I thought I was the last person left in America who had never watched it.

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    @BuckeyeSam
    Scott Klappenbach: Certainly agree with posted opinions, but two minor questions…what was the significance of leaving the wrist watch on the pay phone ? And exactly when did Walter get the gun? · 47 minutes ago

    If the episode showed where he got the gun, I missed it.

    Regarding the watch, in the aftershow, I think the producer said that they first filmed a later scene, and Cranston wasn’t wearing the watch. So when they filmed the gas-station scene, they had Walt leave the watch, a gift from Jesse on Walt’s 51st birthday, suggesting that as of Walt’s 52nd birthday, Walt no longer needed Jesse.

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    @RossC

    I was wondering a little about the ricin.  Lydia’s demise was satisfying as was the entire episode. 

    Badger and Skinny Pete’s return as faux hit men was a brilliant, light note in an otherwise dark final episode.

    I also especially liked the Walt’s “confession” to Skylar.

    I thought it was a good choice to have Walt “refuse” Jack’s offer of money and to have Jessie get out with nothing but his freedom.

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    @Todd

    They showed how Walter got the gun in the flash forward in the first episode of Season 5, at the Denny’s.  He met his gun dealer there in the bathroom.

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    @Todd

    Extremely satisfying ending and series. 

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    @MiffedWhiteMale
    Scott Klappenbach: Certainly agree with posted opinions, but two minor questions…what was the significance of leaving the wrist watch on the pay phone ? And exactly when did Walter get the gun? · 1 hour ago

    They showed Walt buying the gun in the “flash-forward” in August – for some reason they cut the scene from this episode.  He buys it in the parking lot after his birthday breakfast.  (They also cut the scene outside his house when he greets his neighbor before he gets the ricin capsule).

    According to Talking Bad, the watch was just a continuity thing.  They filmed the scene at the restaurant (for the flash-forward) much earlier than the final episode and he was bare-wristed.  So they had to find a way to lose the watch.

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    @MiffedWhiteMale
    Butters: Last episode was a little by the numbers and lacking the usual creativity/surprise we expect. The basic notes played out pretty much as people predicted.

    but overall was still good · 

    Agreed, but only to a point.  I think the use of the flash-forward prior to the last eight episodes (buying the gun and retrieving the Ricin capsule) was a creative mistake.  Can you imagine how awesome it would have been to have gone into these last episodes absolutely cold, with no idea what was coming?  Instead we had weeks to theorize about the machine gun and the ricin, so yeah, those weren’t really surprises.

    On the other hand, I thought the scenes with the Grey Matter people (names escape me at the moment)  were genius, and a great twist.

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    @BuckeyeSam
    Jeff Christian:    ***

    Did Walt get more than he deserved, turning evil and all?  Should he have died knowing he met his goal? 

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    Walt may not have met his goal. When he left his $9+ M with his wealthy friends, he said any taxes they might owe should come from his money. Those two have had big money for a fair number of years. It might be safe to assume that they’ve already made noncharitable lifetime gifts up to their lifetime federal transfer-tax exemption equivalents ($5M+ each). A noncharitable gift of more than $9 million could likely trigger significant federal gift tax. So rather than leaving $9M+, he may be leaving about $6+M. I suppose he didn’t have time to ask for their most recent federal gift tax returns. But maybe he should have killed the gang, recovered more money, and then finished with the wealthy friends.   

    Too bad he couldn’t call Saul!

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    @BryanGStephens
    Blue Yeti: Ever seen The Wire? 

    Valiuth

    Indeed it is a complete work. Of one piece. Which is not something I think I can say of any other TV show I have watched, with the exception of one Anime I can think of.  · 5 minutes ago

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    Babylon 5 did all of this as a “Novel” on TV. It was built from day one to be that way, with cut outs if cast needed to leave, and a planned 5 year story.

    It was not anime, it was regular TV with real actors and everything.

    Sorry that it was Science Fiction. But it did this First. Before any of the other vaunted shows that everyone thinks are so ground breaking.

    Just sayin’.

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    @PodkayneofIsrael

    As soon as I heard the last episode was called “Felina”, I knew a lot of the general theme. My dad was a huge C&W fan, and particularly fond of Marty Robbins, so I was perplexed to read people speculating that maybe it was an anagram of “Finale” or the elements Iron, Lithium, and Salt (Fe Li Na). In some ways, my cultural education was useful!

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    @JeffChristian

    The song’s name is actually “El Paso”, so the anagram theory seems pretty solid.  Neat.

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    @Valiuth
    Bryan G. Stephens

    Blue Yeti: Ever seen The Wire? 

    Valiuth

    Indeed it is a complete work. Of one piece. Which is not something I think I can say of any other TV show I have watched, with the exception of one Anime I can think of.  · 5 minutes ago

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    7 hours ago

    Babylon 5 did all of this as a “Novel” on TV. It was built from day one to be that way, with cut outs if cast needed to leave, and a planned 5 year story.

    It was not anime, it was regular TV with real actors and everything.

    Sorry that it was Science Fiction. But it did this First. Before any of the other vaunted shows that everyone thinks are so ground breaking.

    Just sayin’. · 46 minutes ago

    Oh, well I haven’t seen Babylon 5 all the way through. Netflix took it down before I got the chance. I have heard of its narrative cohesiveness though.

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    @ManWiththeAxe
    Todd: Extremely satisfying ending and series.  · 1 hour ago

    I’m surprised you would say this given that you were strangled at the end.

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    @Todd
    Miffed White Male

    Agreed, but only to a point.  I think the use of the flash-forward prior to the last eight episodes (buying the gun and retrieving the Ricin capsule) was a creative mistake.  Can you imagine how awesome it would have been to have gone into these last episodes absolutely cold, with no idea what was coming?  Instead we had weeks to theorize about the machine gun and the ricin, so yeah, those weren’t really surprises.

    On the other hand, I thought the scenes with the Grey Matter people (names escape me at the moment)  were genius, and a great twist. · 1 hour ago

    I don’t know.  That flash forward has been on my mind since the beginning of Season 5, but I still couldn’t predict what actually did happen.

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    @Schwaibold

    I thought the ending was fantastic. Walt finished as he started, an ambiguous anti-hero. The first few seasons, I rooted for him. The next few, I hated him. Last night, I was rooting and hating simultaneously. 

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    @Dave
    Todd

    I don’t know.  That flash forward has been on my mind since the beginning of Season 5, but I still couldn’t predict what actually did happen. · 41 minutes ago

    There was a tradeoff in this decision, for sure, but I think that by giving away part of the ending, first last year in Season Five’s episode 1 and again this year in episode 9(?) they let the tension linger for over a year. So a small bang for the last episode meant a longer, slower burn across the last season.

    Moreover, I think this was much more successful than when they tried the same technique in season two, with the shows that opened with the effects of the plane crash. To me, the plane crash was really the only questionable part of the whole series–a bit too much, I think, that didn’t fully satisfy.

    Come to think of it: no one really knows the role Walt played in all that. Perhaps now Jesse can put it all together, but that’s it.

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    @BartholomewXerxesOgilvieJr

    I found the ending satisfying as well. I thought it particularly significant that, after all this time, Walt finally admitted the real reason he did what he did — it wasn’t, after all, a selfless attempt to provide for his family, but rather something he did to satisfy his own pride. (My words, not his, but close enough.) I thought it fitting that, having lost everything else, Walt spent his final tender moments alone with a meth lab.

    I did wish for a bit more of a personal resolution with Jesse. Yes, it’s great that he’s free — but what does he do now? Disowned by his parents, utterly alone, and probably a psychological basket case? But then, nobody in the story can really be said to have achieved a happy ending, so maybe it’s best that we’re left with that triumphant scream from Jesse as he speeds away from Uncle Jack’s compound.

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    @Dave

    This episode features some old elements that have made the show so enjoyable, such as Walt planning an intricate scheme, moving all the human pieces around the chessboard for his advantage.

    He figured out a way to get his money to his children while also gaining a measure of revenge on Gretchen and Elliot, who will now fear the assassins he supposedly hired.

    He took advantage of Lydia’s habits to slip her the ricin and his knowledge that the DEA would be willing to cut a deal to retrieve the bodies of their colleagues to save Skyler.

    We also saw how Walt used science to unfold his trap building the automatic firing system for the gun.

    Finally, it took working with Jesse–feigning a fight with him to create a distraction and allow him to hit the deck–to make the whole plan work.

    Manipulation, science, and teamwork were always the key to getting out of whatever jam Walt found himself in.

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    @MiffedWhiteMale
    Dave: 

    We also saw how Walt used science to unfold his trap building the automatic firing system for the gun.

    Finally, it took working with Jesse–feigning a fight with him to create a distraction and allow him to hit the deck–to make the whole plan work.

    I figured the original plan was to have the machine gun take out everyone, including himself.  When he saw Jesse, he had to tackle him to save him.

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    @GumbyMark

    Hey, if Walt and the Nazis are dead, Jesse disappeared and Skylar not prosecuted does that mean Saul can come back to his law practice?  I’ll be in Omaha in a couple of weeks and will stop by the local Cinnabons to see if I can find him and give him the good news.

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    @Dave

    At the same time, we saw some new elements.

    Finally, Walt gained some perspective on what he’s been doing. He regrets it and realizes that he ruined his life and the lives of everyone around him. His admission that he did it all for himself because he liked the power was unexpected but true. In a way, it echoed his explanation to Jesse in the first episode to why he “broke bad” all of a sudden: back then he said “I’m awake.” Here he says it made him feel alive.

    It’s notable that Walt’s self-awareness is incomplete. He lied to Skyler in telling her that he’d spent all the money getting back to ABQ. What is she supposed to think when Gretchen and Elliot give Junior all that money? She already knows that Walt had used their wealth as a cover story before.

    Also, won’t Junior be hurt, yet again, when he receives that money? He’s smart enough to know that his father may be behind it.

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    @Dave
    Mark: Hey, if Walt and the Nazis are dead, Jesse disappeared and Skylar not prosecuted does that mean Saul can come back to his law practice?  I’ll be in Omaha in a couple of weeks and will stop by the local Cinnabons to see if I can find him and give him the good news. · 17 minutes ago

    I thought of that this morning. Saul jumped ship too early!

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    @Dave

    Two more observations.

    First, having seen the names of the actors who play Badger and Skinny Pete in the opening credits I knew they’d make an appearance. When Walt said that he’d hired the two best assassins west of the Mississippi I thought immediately of those two!

    Second, when Walt was making the call pretending to be from the New York Times, I thought he was contacting the gun salesman and speaking in a code–ala the vacuum repairman guy. Am I the only one?

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    @Dave
    Miffed White Male

    Dave: 

    We also saw how Walt used science to unfold his trap building the automatic firing system for the gun.

    Finally, it took working with Jesse–feigning a fight with him to create a distraction and allow him to hit the deck–to make the whole plan work.

    I figured the original plan was to have the machine gun take out everyone, including himself.  When he saw Jesse, he had to tackle him to save him. · 24 minutes ago

    I see your point. But Walt already knew Jesse was still alive, so saving him must have been part of the plan beforehand. If I understand you correctly, you’re saying that Walt called an audible when he needed to stall for time to get to his keys.

    If Walt intended to be killed by the machine gun, then presumably Jesse would be left imprisoned somewhere with everyone dead.

    I think that Walt telling Jesse to kill him was about Walt offering to give Jesse the vengeance he thought Jesse wanted.

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