Has Biden Been ‘Told’ He’s Not Running in 2024?

 

Maybe it’s just me, but it seems like lately Joe Biden has been less “engaged” than ever. Of course, whenever he speaks it’s a cringe fest. But I was especially struck by his multiple vacation times at the beach in spite of a national disaster; by his seeming indifference over the Lahaina wildfire; by his increased unavailability (or so it seems to me). I began to wonder what would cause him to seem more withdrawn than ever, unless he’s speaking about his invisible accomplishments.

Then it hit me: is it possible that someone who has the power or influence to keep him from running has told him that he won’t be on the ballot in 2024? If I were Joe and were told that, I’d be pretty depressed and remote, too.

And at one of his latest press conferences, Biden asked in his favorite whispering voice (and I can’t find the exact quotation), Tell me the things I’ve done wrong, as if to challenge everyone to prove he shouldn’t be in charge, and running again.

The Democrats are acknowledging they don’t want him to run. The media is even saying he should bow out. The growing list of criminal accusations on his acts of bribery and the endless questions about Hunter could be wearing him out.

Still, I can’t imagine who would be prepared to tell Biden he’s not running, and for Joe to accept it. Would he listen to Jill? To certain aides? To powerful Democrats? And is there anyone prepared to replace him?

Then again, maybe I’m needlessly speculating.

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  1. DrewInWisconsin, Œuf Member
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    Seems like the clock is ticking on finding a replacement.

    There is very little evidence of a Joe Biden Re-Election Campaign. As of a couple months ago there was no campaign. No campaign headquarters, no financing arm, very little staff. Things may have changed since I last checked, but a quick websearch just now doesn’t show much evidence.

    And the media, always covering for Biden, has decided to spin this as Biden simply being frugal, or running a “hidden” campaign.

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  2. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):

    Seems like the clock is ticking on finding a replacement.

    There is very little evidence of a Joe Biden Re-Election Campaign. As of a couple months ago there was no campaign. No campaign headquarters, no financing arm, very little staff. Things may have changed since I last checked, but a quick websearch just now doesn’t show much evidence.

    And the media, always covering for Biden, has decided to spin this as Biden simply being frugal, or running a “hidden” campaign.

    Nah. The whole thing smells. I wouldn’t doubt that they’re hoping for a miracle in terms of replacing him. The choices are so dismal–Kamala? Gavin?

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  3. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    Susan Quinn: And at one of his latest press conferences, Biden asked in his favorite whispering voice (and I can’t find the exact quotation), Tell me the things I’ve done wrong, as if to challenge everyone to prove he shouldn’t be in charge, and running again.

    You ran for president, you impossible twit.

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  4. Django Member
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    @Django

    Tell me I’m as senile as Slow Joe if you want, but I can imagine: 1) a health incident that persuades the Vegetable-in-Chief to decline to run, or 2) Governor HairGel announcing that with great sadness he will challenge the current president, only for the good of the country of course, 3) If the second case happens, Heels-Up will announce that she will not betray the man who wanted her to be his VP, and step aside. She’ll be told behind the scenes that she is a guaranteed loser, and the emphasis will be on regaining the House and expanding the Senate majority. She’ll be on her own.

    Afterwards, she will be cared for by TPTB and given whatever office she wants other than the Oval Office. Maybe a position on an appeals court. A level below the SCOTUS?

    You couldn’t script it any better given where we are now. The only question I have is, “How will the GOPe screw it up this time?”

    EDIT: There is no guarantee that if option one happens that the health incident is real vs faked.

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  5. DrewInWisconsin, Œuf Member
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    @DrewInWisconsin

    Django (View Comment):
    The only question I have is, “How will the GOPe screw it up this time?”

    Sad. But true.

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  6. Bishop Wash Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):
    There is very little evidence of a Joe Biden Re-Election Campaign. As of a couple months ago there was no campaign. No campaign headquarters, no financing arm, very little staff. Things may have changed since I last checked, but a quick websearch just now doesn’t show much evidence.

    This is a guy who would fittingly have a Committee to RE-Elect the President. Not Nixon.

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  7. MarciN Member
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    @MarciN

    I agree with the suggestion in Susan’s post, that Biden is not planning to run again. 

    I would bet a lot of money on it. 

     

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  8. MarciN Member
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    @MarciN

    The choice of Kamala has always mystified me. Within the party, she was the least popular of all the Democratic presidential wannabees. And her standing among Democrats has not changed.

    I think I understand why they nominated and elected Biden. But I’ve never understood the Kamala Harris part of the story of the 2020 election. 

     

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  9. Django Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    The choice of Kamala has always mystified me. Within the party, she was the least popular of all the Democratic presidential wannabees. And her standing among Democrats has not changed.

    I think I understand why they nominated and elected Biden. But I’ve never understood the Kamala Harris part of the story of the 2020 election.

     

    Wandering Joe is just stupid enough to consider himself the smartest person in the room and if memory serves me, he said during the primaries that he would choose a woman as VP. Maybe he thought that adding PoC to the qualifications for VP made him a visionary and a consequential prez? 

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  10. namlliT noD Member
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    @DonTillman

    Susan Quinn: Still, I can’t imagine who would be prepared to tell Biden he’s not running, and for Joe to accept it. Would he listen to Jill? To certain aides? To powerful Democrats?

    Oh, Susan…

    Um…  You do know that a group of powerful Democrats have been making *all* of Joe’s decisions, and *all* of the Democrat Party’s decisions, for a long time now, right?

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  11. namlliT noD Member
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    @DonTillman

    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):
    There is very little evidence of a Joe Biden Re-Election Campaign.

    ‘Worked in 2020.

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  12. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    The choice of Kamala has always mystified me. Within the party, she was the least popular of all the Democratic presidential wannabees. And her standing among Democrats has not changed.

    I think I understand why they nominated and elected Biden. But I’ve never understood the Kamala Harris part of the story of the 2020 election.

     

    Simple: Impeachment insurance if the GOP somehow managed to take both houses of Congress.

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  13. Bishop Wash Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    The choice of Kamala has always mystified me. Within the party, she was the least popular of all the Democratic presidential wannabees. And her standing among Democrats has not changed.

    I think I understand why they nominated and elected Biden. But I’ve never understood the Kamala Harris part of the story of the 2020 election.

     

    Similarly to Vice President Biden opening his yap and publicly stating that the administration was gung-ho for fake marriage, candidate Biden announced that his VP choice would be a female person of color. Once that marker was established, it would have been hard to pull back from. The list of candidates wasn’t great and even though she’d called him a racist and didn’t even make it to the first primary, Harris was the one selected. 

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  14. Rodin Member
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    It’s hard to predict what will happen because none of the normal (rational?) rules seem to apply anymore. If Joe is a cypher then the only question is when does his usefulness expire? And given the control over legacy media what would make his usefulness expire? Seems like it has — thus recent reporting in NYT and Politico. But what the next move may be is unclear. Have they solved the “Kamala problem” (e.g., is it good enough that Gavin Newson self-identifies as a black woman?). If the consequences were not so dire it would be amusing to watch. 

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  15. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: Still, I can’t imagine who would be prepared to tell Biden he’s not running, and for Joe to accept it. Would he listen to Jill? To certain aides? To powerful Democrats?

    Oh, Susan…

    Um… You do know that a group of powerful Democrats have been making *all* of Joe’s decisions, and *all* of the Democrat Party’s decisions, for a long time now, right?

    Of course! But can they get him to quit! They didn’t expect to have to kick him out–will he leave kicking and screaming?

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  16. DrewInWisconsin, Œuf Member
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    The choice of Kamala has always mystified me. Within the party, she was the least popular of all the Democratic presidential wannabees. And her standing among Democrats has not changed.

    I think I understand why they nominated and elected Biden. But I’ve never understood the Kamala Harris part of the story of the 2020 election.

    Similarly to Vice President Biden opening his yap and publicly stating that the administration was gung-ho for fake marriage, candidate Biden announced that his VP choice would be a female person of color. Once that marker was established, it would have been hard to pull back from. The list of candidates wasn’t great and even though she’d called him a racist and didn’t even make it to the first primary, Harris was the one selected.

    Surprising since that side of the aisle has such a flexible definition of “woman” they could have picked anyone.

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  17. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    I think Kamala was Obama’s puppet. Biden [Jill] just refused to step down so she could slide in.

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  18. Old Bathos Moderator
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    They are gonna dump him. The accumulation of lies and sleaze on top of the fact that he is not particularly likeable or competent means that they will abruptly dump him.  I think it is 90% likely that Newsome will get the nod.

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  19. namlliT noD Member
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    @DonTillman

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: Still, I can’t imagine who would be prepared to tell Biden he’s not running, and for Joe to accept it. Would he listen to Jill? To certain aides? To powerful Democrats?

    Oh, Susan…

    Um… You do know that a group of powerful Democrats have been making *all* of Joe’s decisions, and *all* of the Democrat Party’s decisions, for a long time now, right?

    Of course! But can they get him to quit! They didn’t expect to have to kick him out–will he leave kicking and screaming?

    I repeat, *all* of Joe’s decisions.

    If they wanted him to quit, he would quit.  He’s in no position to disobey orders.  And even if he tried, he’s not capable of kicking or screaming.  And even if he was, they would just tweak the dosage.

    But I doubt they want him to quit.  Because the strategy worked so well the last time.

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  20. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):
    You do know that a group of powerful Democrats have been making *all* of Joe’s decisions, and *all* of the Democrat Party’s decisions, for a long time now, right?

    I’m not sure that’s true.

    A friend of mine who knows all these people (he served in a couple of presidential administrations) says that he’s sure that Biden is running everything.  He says there’s no way he would listen to anyone else’s opinion on anything.  He never has.

    I have no first hand knowledge, of course.  But the Afghanistan withdrawal I thought supported my friend’s position.

    I think Joe really is in charge.

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  21. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Œuf (View Comment):
    There is very little evidence of a Joe Biden Re-Election Campaign.

    ‘Worked in 2020.

    Exactly.  If we still have mail in ballots etc, and continue to follow the same election laws, I really don’t think it matters who runs or if they decide to campaign.

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  22. MarciN Member
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    @MarciN

    Django (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    I think I understand why they nominated and elected Biden. But I’ve never understood the Kamala Harris part of the story of the 2020 election.

    Wandering Joe is just stupid enough to consider himself the smartest person in the room and if memory serves me, he said during the primaries that he would choose a woman as VP. Maybe he thought that adding PoC to the qualifications for VP made him a visionary and a consequential prez?

    Possibly.

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  23. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    They are gonna dump him. The accumulation of lies and sleaze on top of the fact that he is not particularly likeable or competent means that they will abruptly dump him. I think it is 90% likely that Newsome will get the nod.

    Harris couldn’t be the Vice President, then. Two-fer.

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  24. Bishop Wash Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):
    I have no first hand knowledge, of course.  But the Afghanistan withdrawal I thought supported my friend’s position.

    That instance made me think at least people were listening to Biden at that time. The stories I read were that President Trump wanted to leave Afghanistan in a certain way and the military leaders convinced him otherwise. Supposedly they tried the same thing with Biden, but he pushed back that he was President and those were his orders. Where the truth is, I don’t know.

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  25. Django Member
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    @Django

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):
    You do know that a group of powerful Democrats have been making *all* of Joe’s decisions, and *all* of the Democrat Party’s decisions, for a long time now, right?

    I’m not sure that’s true.

    A friend of mine who knows all these people (he served in a couple of presidential administrations) says that he’s sure that Biden is running everything. He says there’s no way he would listen to anyone else’s opinion on anything. He never has.

    I have no first hand knowledge, of course. But the Afghanistan withdrawal I thought supported my friend’s position.

    I think Joe really is in charge.

    I read reports that Biden’s top military advisors told him his Afghanistan withdrawal plans were stupid, but Joe ignored them because he’s the smartest person in the room. 

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  26. Old Bathos Moderator
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    @OldBathos

    The MSM is slowly backing away from the defense of Hunter and Joe. 

    The phone calls, email aliases, the sequential changing lies, and the obviousness of the entire thing is a problem.  Someone pointed out to me that every conceivable accusation that could be made against Trump is already out there and taken into account by voters but that Biden’s sleazorama is new and worse so Biden’s favorability will continue to take hits.

    Liberals would vastly prefer the photogenic communist governor from California anyway which is why I think the switch will be near-instantaneous.  I also think that a shiny and new very gifted liar will probably beat Trump easily if for no other reason than that it offers the hope that the acrimony will end. (Suicide is painless, it brings on many changes…)

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  27. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):
    But I doubt they want him to quit.  Because the strategy worked so well the last time.

    Maybe they’ve given him a deadline farther out. And this time is far different than last time.

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  28. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    @SusanQuinn

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    The MSM is slowly backing away from the defense of Hunter and Joe.

    The phone calls, email aliases, the sequential changing lies, and the obviousness of the entire thing is a problem. Someone pointed out to me that every conceivable accusation that could be made against Trump is already out there and taken into account by voters but that Biden’s sleazorama is new and worse so Biden’s favorability will continue to take hits.

    Liberals would vastly prefer the photogenic communist governor from California anyway which is why I think the switch will be near-instantaneous. I also think that a shiny and new very gifted liar will probably beat Trump easily if for no other reason than that it offers the hope that the acrimony will end. (Suicide is painless, it brings on many changes…)

    All these points basically support my own thinking. All the ugliness is simply becoming too much for the media, and the Left will love Gavin, and may very well go for him to get Trump off the stage. It’s all so ugly…

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  29. DrewInWisconsin, Œuf Member
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    @DrewInWisconsin

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    All these points basically support my own thinking. All the ugliness is simply becoming too much for the media . . .

    Given how much ugliness they’ve delivered unto us, this doesn’t seem possible.

     

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  30. Red Herring Coolidge
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    @EHerring

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    The MSM is slowly backing away from the defense of Hunter and Joe.

    The phone calls, email aliases, the sequential changing lies, and the obviousness of the entire thing is a problem. Someone pointed out to me that every conceivable accusation that could be made against Trump is already out there and taken into account by voters but that Biden’s sleazorama is new and worse so Biden’s favorability will continue to take hits.

    Liberals would vastly prefer the photogenic communist governor from California anyway which is why I think the switch will be near-instantaneous. I also think that a shiny and new very gifted liar will probably beat Trump easily if for no other reason than that it offers the hope that the acrimony will end. (Suicide is painless, it brings on many changes…)

    What is out there is how many of the attacks on Trump were based on lies, distortions, and exaggerations and some of the lies and attacks existed to protect Biden. As such, the anger over the left’s abuse of power, fear it could happen to us, and desire for justice for Trump factor in  

     

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