Ramaswamy Defends Trump Against More Prosecutorial Misconduct

 

Good man, Vivek.

The Fulton County, Georgia DA published charges against Trump even before the grand jury had returned from deliberations, and then retracted them. Oops.

Here we go again: another disastrous Trump indictment. It’s downright pathetic that Fulton County publicly posted the indictment on its website even before the grand jury had finished convening. Since the four prosecutions against Trump are using novel & untested legal theories, it’s fair game for him to do the same in defense: immediately file a motion to dismiss for a constitutional due process violation for publicly issuing an indictment before the grand jury had actually signed one. He should make a strong argument on these grounds & it would send a powerful message to the ever-expansive prosecutorial police state. As someone who’s running for President against Trump, I’d volunteer to write the amicus brief to the court myself: prosecutors should not be deciding U.S. presidential elections, and if they’re so overzealous that they commit constitutional violations, then the cases should be thrown out & they should be held accountable.

I’m no expert, but this sounds like the sort of thing which typically is only done after the grand jury.

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  1. Kevin Schulte Member
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    Good for him . I would soo like Ramaswamy to be Trumps running mate . 

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  2. Percival Thatcher
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    The DA announced the indictment before the grand jury had its say?

    If I were on the grand jury, I’d say “no bill.”

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  3. Western Chauvinist Member
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    BDB: Good man, Vivek.

    And smart campaign strategist, too. This is the only thing that could bring some Trumpers over. 

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  4. E. Kent Golding Moderator
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    Vivek should drop out of the race.  He doesn’t want Vivek to be the nominee,  he wants Trump to be the nominee.   It is OK to want Trump to be the nominee, provided you are not a pretend candidate.  His campaign is a fraud.

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  5. Kevin Schulte Member
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    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    Vivek should drop out of the race. He doesn’t want Vivek to be the nominee, he wants Trump to be the nominee. It is OK to want Trump to be the nominee, provided you are not a pretend candidate. His campaign is a fraud.

    What a crock of crap . Vivek is going to change the conversation to what our rulers don’t want to talk about . This is invaluable .

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  6. Kevin Schulte Member
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    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    Vivek should drop out of the race. He doesn’t want Vivek to be the nominee, he wants Trump to be the nominee. It is OK to want Trump to be the nominee, provided you are not a pretend candidate. His campaign is a fraud.

    What a crock of crap . Vivek is going to change the conversation to what our rulers don’t want to talk about . This is invaluable .

    Further more . Should Pence drop out ? Christie ? Haley ? Tim Scott?  etc etc etc ……

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  7. Western Chauvinist Member
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    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    Vivek should drop out of the race. He doesn’t want Vivek to be the nominee, he wants Trump to be the nominee. It is OK to want Trump to be the nominee, provided you are not a pretend candidate. His campaign is a fraud.

    Candidates who cannot acknowledge the injustices perpetrated against President Trump from 2015 up to the present have no chance of winning over Trump supporters and therefore no chance of winning the nomination. They should watch Vivek and learn if they want to have any chance.

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  8. Chris O Coolidge
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    Heard the former Georgia Lieutenant Governor talking about testifying against “Trump and his cast of characters.” 

    I think the Old Guard believes if they bury Trump, they get his voters. 

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  9. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Chris O (View Comment):

    Heard the former Georgia Lieutenant Governor talking about testifying against “Trump and his cast of characters.”

    I think the Old Guard believes if they bury Trump, they get his voters.

    They couldn’t be more wrong.

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  10. Ed G. Member
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    This is what I’ve been trying to say (inarticulately, apparently) about not understanding the DeSantis play. Vivek is doing it right – winning friends and not alienating people 1) by being a MAGA/AF friendly guy, and 2) not pussyfooting around the persecution of Trump and the corrupted institutions. DeSantis gets close but not close enough, even for horse shoes and hand grenades.

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  11. BDB Coolidge
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    Ed G. (View Comment):

    This is what I’ve been trying to say (inarticulately, apparently) about not understanding the DeSantis play. Vivek is doing it right – winning friends and not alienating people 1) by being a MAGA/AF friendly guy, and 2) not pussyfooting around the persecution of Trump and the corrupted institutions. DeSantis gets close but not close enough, even for horse shoes and hand grenades.

    Seems to me that DeSantis was doing it right for a long time, and his team lost the plot.  He’s been in this race effectively since 2021.

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  12. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    Vivek should drop out of the race. He doesn’t want Vivek to be the nominee, he wants Trump to be the nominee. It is OK to want Trump to be the nominee, provided you are not a pretend candidate. His campaign is a fraud.

    Candidates who cannot acknowledge the injustices perpetrated against President Trump from 2015 up to the present have no chance of winning over Trump supporters and therefore no chance of winning the nomination. They should watch Vivek and learn if they want to have any chance.

    I agree.  We do not see much of people like the Vivek in government.  Truly we see mostly the opposite.  I have no problem voting for Vivek based on what I know at this time.

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  13. Ed G. Member
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    BDB (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    This is what I’ve been trying to say (inarticulately, apparently) about not understanding the DeSantis play. Vivek is doing it right – winning friends and not alienating people 1) by being a MAGA/AF friendly guy, and 2) not pussyfooting around the persecution of Trump and the corrupted institutions. DeSantis gets close but not close enough, even for horse shoes and hand grenades.

    Seems to me that DeSantis was doing it right for a long time, and his team lost the plot. He’s been in this race effectively since 2021.

    Agreed

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  14. Globalitarian Misanthropist Coolidge
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    BDB (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    This is what I’ve been trying to say (inarticulately, apparently) about not understanding the DeSantis play. Vivek is doing it right – winning friends and not alienating people 1) by being a MAGA/AF friendly guy, and 2) not pussyfooting around the persecution of Trump and the corrupted institutions. DeSantis gets close but not close enough, even for horse shoes and hand grenades.

    Seems to me that DeSantis was doing it right for a long time, and his team lost the plot. He’s been in this race effectively since 2021.

    His marshals took over his campaign.

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  15. MarciN Member
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    Ed G. (View Comment):

    This is what I’ve been trying to say (inarticulately, apparently) about not understanding the DeSantis play. Vivek is doing it right – winning friends and not alienating people 1) by being a MAGA/AF friendly guy, and 2) not pussyfooting around the persecution of Trump and the corrupted institutions. DeSantis gets close but not close enough, even for horse shoes and hand grenades.

    It takes a lot of courage to do what Vivek is doing. I admire him very much for being so stalwart against the anti-Trump wave. 

     

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  16. E. Kent Golding Moderator
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    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):

    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    Vivek should drop out of the race. He doesn’t want Vivek to be the nominee, he wants Trump to be the nominee. It is OK to want Trump to be the nominee, provided you are not a pretend candidate. His campaign is a fraud.

    What a crock of crap . Vivek is going to change the conversation to what our rulers don’t want to talk about . This is invaluable .

    Further more . Should Pence drop out ? Christie ? Haley ? Tim Scott? etc etc etc ……

    I think anyone with little chance of winning should drop out.   Vivek doesn’t even WANT to win.    Trump can campaign for Trump,  he doesn’t need toadies.

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  17. E. Kent Golding Moderator
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    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    Vivek should drop out of the race. He doesn’t want Vivek to be the nominee, he wants Trump to be the nominee. It is OK to want Trump to be the nominee, provided you are not a pretend candidate. His campaign is a fraud.

    What a crock of crap . Vivek is going to change the conversation to what our rulers don’t want to talk about . This is invaluable .

    Are you claiming Vivek wants to beat Trump?  If not, why is he running against him?   Something wrong with my logic or do you just not like where logic leads?   Trump is incapable of changing the conversation to where Trump needs it to be?   You can’t talk about what your rulers don’t wanted you to?   Interesting.

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  18. Kevin Schulte Member
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    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    Vivek should drop out of the race. He doesn’t want Vivek to be the nominee, he wants Trump to be the nominee. It is OK to want Trump to be the nominee, provided you are not a pretend candidate. His campaign is a fraud.

    What a crock of crap . Vivek is going to change the conversation to what our rulers don’t want to talk about . This is invaluable .

    Are you claiming Vivek wants to beat Trump? If not, why is he running against him? Something wrong with my logic or do you just not like where logic leads? Trump is incapable of changing the conversation to where Trump needs it to be? You can’t talk about what your rulers don’t wanted you to? Interesting.

    As it stands now. Trump and DeSantis are the only two at this point that have a viable chance at the nomination. 

    I would suggest Vivek is going to be in 3rd moving up to second. Why should he drop out of an early horse race. As apposed to all the other candidates dropping out. 

    I get the feeling that you want Vivek to drop out is because he is standing up against Trumps persecution. I suspect you don’t want Trump to get the nomination and are bent that Vivek is making a case for Trump not being persecuted. 

    In reality, Vivek is standing up for all of our rights not to be lawfared in a banana republic way. 

    Your beef with Vivek is because of Trump in my estimation. 

    One other thing. Candidates often run the first time to set themselves up for a successful 2nd time.  Or they are auditioning for a spot in the future administration  . Have you not thought of this ?  Why should Vivek drop out , and not everyone under him also  ? 

    Your logic is tainted with your distaste for Trump. 

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  19. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):
    In reality, Vivek is standing up for all of our rights not to be lawfared in a banana republic way. 

    This. 

    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):
    Your logic is tainted with your distaste for Trump. 

    Totally.

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  20. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    I don’t see why all the GOP candidates are not standing against these things. 

    It is so clearly political prosecutions. 

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  21. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I don’t see why all the GOP candidates are not standing against these things.

    It is so clearly political prosecutions.

    Precisely.

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  22. Kevin Schulte Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I don’t see why all the GOP candidates are not standing against these things.

    It is so clearly political prosecutions.

    It all depends who is bankrolling them. 
    Hence even DeSantis is sheepish on this. 
    When the FBI raided Maralargo De was silent on it for a week. Then just a tweet. He is also silent on what’s happening now as far as I know. 
    This is why I don’t Trust him. He will say or do what the bankroll says. 

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  23. Ed G. Member
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    There is no moving on, no looking forward, no turning the page. This is the hill to die on if there ever will be any to die on.

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  24. Stina Inactive
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I don’t see why all the GOP candidates are not standing against these things.

    It is so clearly political prosecutions.

    No one actually believes in the constitution. It is lip service to self-promotion.

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  25. Kevin Schulte Member
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    One other motivation for the silence on Trump persecution. As Stina eluded too. 

    The candidate is on board with the deep state globalism. 
    Looking at you treacherous Mike Pence. And no doubt others. 

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  26. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I don’t see why all the GOP candidates are not standing against these things.

    It is so clearly political prosecutions.

    The GOP reaction about Trump and many things since the pandemic has really hurt my view of them.   I now view them as a corrupt force like the Democrats just griffing from a slightly different box.  

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  27. Rodin Member
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    In fairness to the DA publishing the “ham sandwich” before the GJ vote: I am sure that it was already done, they just were having the champagne party follow-up before the announcement.

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  28. BDB Coolidge
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    In fairness to the DA publishing the “ham sandwich” before the GJ vote: I am sure that it was already done, they just were having the champagne party follow-up before the announcement.

    Right, but when the “sealed indictment” was produced later, it kinda looked insincere, no?

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  29. Concretevol Thatcher
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    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):

    Good for him . I would soo like Ramaswamy to be Trumps running mate .

    Lucky for you that’s what he is running for!  haha

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  30. Django Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I don’t see why all the GOP candidates are not standing against these things.

    It is so clearly political prosecutions.

    I believe many of them want Trump on the sidelines or in jail as much as, or more than, the Demo-rats do. 

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