Protesting Homes of SC Justices: Free Speech or Intimidation?

 

We all know that people have been protesting outside of the homes of originalist Justices since the Dobbs decision was leaked. We also know that this is against a Federal law designed to stop the intimidation of the Justices and Judges on the bench. Today I saw this thread:

Mr. Hurley puts forth a defense that enforcing such a law would abridge the free speech rights of the protesters. He then finds some left and libertarians who agree and quotes them. One, the libertarian, argues that:

Ahh, so, protesting at the house of a Justice is not different from publishing an op-ed in a newspaper. Since one is legal, both should be. Ms. Severino correctly notes that the law is designed to stop intimidating Judges and Justices. This makes sense. Publishing an op-ed is expressing one’s opinion in the public square. Picketing their home is very different. Picketing their place of work begins to encroach on intimidation, but has long been allowed because those locations are public squares.

But it does beg the question, if it isn’t intimidating to protest at the work or home of Judges and Justices, then why does the FACE act exist?  After all, protesting a policy one doesn’t agree with is a freedom of speech issue. Therefore passing a law that claims that is intimidation seems to violate that same concept. Alas, the govt seems to care much more about ensuring that women should be able to obtain an abortion than that Justices (only the originalist ones) be intimidated.

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  1. Full Size Tabby Member
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    TBA (View Comment):

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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    The heck about justices. Nobody should be protested at their homes. Judges, police, politicians, employees, individuals. Why this is acceptable baffles me. It is obviously a method of threatening people and their families and friends.

    I agree, and I suspect that if pro-life and pro-Second Amendment activists had staged recurring protests outside the home of Ruth Bader Ginsburg we wouldn’t be hearing theses same people calling it freedom of speech.

    Curious, what if I sat in my car outside someone’s home and played talk radio really loud using amplified speakers? Surely that would be ‘free speech’.

    You would still be subject to laws and ordinances prohibiting ‘disturbing the peace’ and ‘harassment.’ Law enforcement has an obligation to enforce those laws and ordinances equally against you (talk radio) and against the guy blasting rap music or Black Lives Matter chants. If law enforcement chooses to ignore that obligation for equal enforcement, you might be able to use that unequal enforcement in court as reason to avoid conviction, but it will be difficult.

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    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    The heck about justices. Nobody should be protested at their homes. Judges, police, politicians, employees, individuals. Why this is acceptable baffles me. It is obviously a method of threatening people and their families and friends.

    I agree, and I suspect that if pro-life and pro-Second Amendment activists had staged recurring protests outside the home of Ruth Bader Ginsburg we wouldn’t be hearing theses same people calling it freedom of speech.

    So, what´s to prevent some enterprising conservatives from staging recurring protests outside the homes of Sotomayor and Kagan right now? I mean, aside from decency, wisdom, love of country, respect for the rule of law, ethics, all those things the left does not have.

    The current political establishment gives the impression that people protesting at the homes of Justices Sotomayor and Kagan would be arrested and prosecuted even as people protesting at the homes of Justices Thomas, Alito, Barrett, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh are not. The Sotomayor and Kagan  protestors can argue in court that the charges should be dismissed because of the unequal enforcement of the law (the law against protest at a judge’s house). But, even if they succeeded, the Sotomayor and Kagan protestors would have to spend years of their lives (and lots and lots of money) getting there. 

    At the risk of overgeneralizing, the people likely to protest against Sotomayor and Kagan probably have real lives – real jobs that require them to show up, real community participation commitments, and real families that need care and feeding. So spending years on a political quest has a very high opportunity cost. In contrast, the protests at the homes of Thomas, Alito, Barrett, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh can draw from a population that has limited employment opportunities, and few to no family and community commitments (after all, the primary current issue on which they are advocating is the unfettered ability to kill their own children). So the opportunity costs risked by committing illegal acts are minimal. 

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  3. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    The heck about justices. Nobody should be protested at their homes. Judges, police, politicians, employees, individuals. Why this is acceptable baffles me. It is obviously a method of threatening people and their families and friends.

    I agree, and I suspect that if pro-life and pro-Second Amendment activists had staged recurring protests outside the home of Ruth Bader Ginsburg we wouldn’t be hearing theses same people calling it freedom of speech.

    Curious, what if I sat in my car outside someone’s home and played talk radio really loud using amplified speakers? Surely that would be ‘free speech’.

    Most towns have noise ordinances.  Whether you are revving up your car with no muffler, playing super loud music, or playing talk radio doesn’t make any difference.

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