The Battle for Bakhmut

 

The battle for Bakhmut has lasted for about nine months. It is the bloodiest and most intense fight in Europe since WWII. Advances and retreats are measured in two to six kilometers increments.

Thousands of Russian and Ukrainian forces have been killed in this battle as Russian forces try to encircle the city, and Ukrainian forces try to prevent the taking of the city.

Once again, the following video shows the grunts in the field. I’m not interested in the policy wonk views in the West, nor the Kremlin’s perpetual aggrievement of losing the old Soviet Empire. This fight has become like WWI trench warfare with newer and more deadly weapons.

My opinion is that this war is not going to end anytime soon. Regardless of the past history between Russia and Ukraine, it should be obvious that Ukrainians are fighting for hearth and home.

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  1. Steve C. Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

     

    Minefields not covered by observation and fires are like the buzzing of flies to Vigo.

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  2. Steve C. Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Steve C. (View Comment):
    Case in point, we have several thousand versions of the M1 tank in storage in the desert. And while the Europeans are sending Ukraine Leopard 1s, circa 1975, we can’t send 105mm gun M1s?!?

    Well what objective would this be consistent with? Sometimes read between the lines?

    Or engage in utter speculation: they don’t want Russia to win but they don’t really want Russia to lose either.

    My completely unfounded suspicion is our mothballed tank fleet has more in common with Russian war stocks. Alternatively, this is a way to keep the Lima tank plant operating at a higher production rate.

     

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  3. Unsk Member
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    The Donbas and Crimea were never part of historic Ukraine.  Crimea was a  Byzantine outpost long before there was a Ukraine. The Donbas was largely settled in the late 1800’s by immigrants, many of them from Russia with the Soviets importing millions more ethnic Russians to the area during their rule. Those areas repeatedly in plebiscites  since the 90’s have opted to align with Russia, because millions of ethnic Russians live in those areas and they have been abused repeatedly by the Ukrainian government.  Much of the problem goes back to early WWII when thousands of ethnic Russians in those areas were rounded up and taken to German prison camps in Germany. There is very bad blood on both sides, and a strong Neo-Nazi element to the present Ukrainian regime which doesn’t help. 

    An insurgency against Russia in those areas is thus very unlikely.  There was an insurgency against Ukraine and a low level war brewing in those areas since 2014  following the Maiden Coup.   The rest of Ukraine is a completely different story.  It is historic Ukraine and inhabited  in large part by ethnic Ukrainians who have a different culture than the Russians. Btw, Zelensky ran as a “peace” candidate several years ago promising to resolve the differences between the two factions and the fighting in the Donbas, but once elected became a “war” President who purposely inflamed the problem, prior to the Russia invasion. 

    The cost of this war to America is far, far greater in many magnitudes greater than the $100 Billion in spending or so that we have thrown at it so far.  It is effectively in the many, many trillions. 

    The energy and food  supply chain of the world has perhaps been permanently altered to the great and very expensive detriment to the American consumer and to the rest of the world.  People will starve in great numbers. There is already a world wide rice crisis. 

    We are no longer considered a trustworthy ally by much of the world outside the G7 because of our illegal sanctions, our sponsorship of terrorist attacks against Russian assets, and our reckless lack of concern for the consequences of this war.   Our ability to broker diplomatic deals worldwide has been severely constrained.  Nations outside the G7 are abandoning the Dollar as the World Reserve Currency like crazy, which will eventually bring great inflation from a diminished dollar value and will eventually severely limit our ability to fund our gigantic debt. 

    This war was orchestrated by the Biden Adminstration and other WEF friendly governments in Europe to create another crisis wrecking our and Europe’s economies leaving them prostrate along with  the other manufactured crisis like the COVID pandemic for a WEF Great Reset takeover. 

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  4. Doug Watt Member
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    Lot’s of interesting comments, so thank you everyone for commenting. As I said in my post:

    The battle for Bakhmut has lasted for about nine months. It is the bloodiest and most intense fight in Europe since WWII. Advances and retreats are measured in two to six kilometers increments.

    Radio Free Europe gives their readers a good look at the grunts on the front line in Ukraine. Bill Mauldin, the great cartoonist in WWII sums up what has always been true.

    Hairy Green Eyeball 3: Willie and Joe Up Front

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  5. GPentelie Coolidge
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    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    Why do the same people have the same debates on the same topics over and over and over?

    Well, I can’t speak for anyone else, but my reason is to demonstrate, as often as necessary, just how wrong people who continue to disagree with me are.

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  6. WilliamDean Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/23512-detaining-gonzalo-lira-another-blow-to-the-freedom-of-press-in-ukraine.html

    He’s not a Ukrainian citizen. During wartime, it’s normal to deport aliens who support the enemy.

    Or shoot them.

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    Taras (View Comment):

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    What is the outcome of a stalemate?

    It depends. If the Russians can solve their logistics situation and/or change their tactics, I feel it would favor them. It would give them time to train and bring their numerical advantages to bear and also would give time for Ukraine’s western allies to tire and press for a solution that is worse for Ukraine. If the Russians can’t solve their logistics challenges or change their tactics, it perhaps favors Ukraine. At that point it becomes a siege in slow motion that the Russians can’t win. I qualify this and say perhaps because a long war has more chance that Ukraine loses its western backers, which changes the dynamic profoundly.

    I think Ukraine is more dependent on the charity of other nations, so a stalemate probably helps Russia. I assume that Russia is willing to drag this on for 10 years. I don’t see the USA dumping $1 Trillion into Ukraine to sustain them. But, the corporate lobby basically runs D.C.

    From Aljazeera (August 2021):

    Since 2001, the United States has spent $2.26 trillion in Afghanistan, the Costs of War Project at Brown University calculates – an investment that has yielded a chaotic, humiliating end to America’s longest war.

    Exactly subduing a population is a difficult thing. That having been said. If it had wished and/ or had the will the taliban could not have won against the US. In the end we did choose to leave. Unlike Germany, Japan, and Korea the difference is Russia may not have a choice.

    Surrender was always an option in Afghanistan. However, it seems Biden thought he would be able to pass off surrender as victory. (Or just blame everything on Trump.) I’m sure Biden’s “feminist” supporters will say little about the degradation of 16 million women and girls.

    The left doesn’t really care about foreign women, same as they don’t really care about environmental despoliation in countries that produce batteries for their electric cars.

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  8. kedavis Coolidge
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    GPentelie (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):
    The real question is why doing so is either unreasonable, illegitimate or contrary to our national interests?

    From a geopolitical, great powers continually jostling for advantage standpoint, it is certainly not contrary to US national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”. Conversely, of course, it is certainly not contrary to Russia’s national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”, especially since they (unlike us) share a 1,400 mile border with it.

    So now we have a hot (and getting hotter) proxy war going. “Yippee!”

    Russia may not care what the Ukrainian people think about whose “sphere of influence” they should be in, but we should, and do.

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  9. lowtech redneck Coolidge
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    GPentelie (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):
    The real question is why doing so is either unreasonable, illegitimate or contrary to our national interests?

    From a geopolitical, great powers continually jostling for advantage standpoint, it is certainly not contrary to US national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”. Conversely, of course, it is certainly not contrary to Russia’s national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”, especially since they (unlike us) share a 1,400 mile border with it.

    So now we have a hot (and getting hotter) proxy war going. “Yippee!”

    Namely, because Russia crossed the line from attempting to influence its neighbor (usually to their detriment, but that’s another debate) into attempting to subjugate it.  That was their choice, not something imposed upon them by the United States promoting its interests (which in this case was an independent Ukraine exploiting their own energy resources).  The equivalent would have been the United States attempting to militarily subjugate Ukraine in response to significantly more heavy-handed Russian attempts at influence, not merely ‘inserting’ themselves into Ukrainian politics.

    And promoting a sphere of influence in any particular place is not necessarily within the interest of powerful countries, as it could lead to things like ‘imperial overreach’, ‘chain-ganging’ or (when perceived as unreasonable or illegitimate) crises of legitimacy affecting both domestic cohesion as well as international relations and alliances.  We are still experiencing the after-effects of the first, the second contributed to the outbreak of World War 1, and Russia is experiencing the last right now.  Hence my question about why our general policies toward Ukraine could be considered unreasonable, illegitimate, or contrary to our interests….or put another way, what alternative policies would have been wiser, based on realistic analysis rather than wishful thinking (i.e. ‘Russia would be our friends if we had let them have their way, that one statement about possibly joining NATO that was never backed up with any patterns of behavior totally proves it!’).

    If your point was simply that Russia is not an inherent monster and has legitimate interests and grievances of their own, I agree with you in principle, if not necessarily in details.  People are coming at this issue from all directions, frequently mistaking the basis of others’ positions.

     

     

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  10. lowtech redneck Coolidge
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    If by ‘inserting’ you mean favoring and supporting Western-oriented factions and not conceding Ukraine as Russia’s compliant, autocratic puppet state as with Belarus, and by ‘benefit’ you mean dominating Eastern Europe and possibly rebuilding a substantial portion of the powerbase they had as the Soviet Union (which was almost as much of a Russian nationalist project as it was an ideological empire), then yes.

    Edit: The real question is why doing so is either unreasonable, illegitimate or contrary to our national interests?

    Is it in the US’ interests to have a buffer state between it and Russia or not?

     

    As opposed to a Russian Satellite state?  Yes.  

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  11. lowtech redneck Coolidge
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    Steve C. (View Comment):

    My completely unfounded suspicion is our mothballed tank fleet has more in common with Russian war stocks. 

     

    I wouldn’t be surprised, what good is maintaining tanks in the fight against climate change and ‘white supremacy’?

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  12. kedavis Coolidge
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    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    Steve C. (View Comment):

    My completely unfounded suspicion is our mothballed tank fleet has more in common with Russian war stocks.

     

    I wouldn’t be surprised, what good is maintaining tanks in the fight against climate change and ‘white supremacy’?

    Especially since they’re not electric!

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  13. MiMac Thatcher
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Doug Watt: Regardless of the past history between Russia and Ukraine it should be obvious that Ukrainians are fighting for hearth and home.

    I do agree that some of the Ukrainians are doing this. Probably not the majority in Donetsk, Luhansk, or Crimea, though.

    The Russians are also fighting for hearth and home.

    No- every region in Ukraine supported independence in the referendum- every single region. Russia manufactured the 2014 revolts just like it did elsewhere in the former Soviet Union so as to create excuses to intervene- like Georgia, Armenia, Moldova etc. In the Donbas >80%  voted for independence.

    https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1991-2/the-end-of-the-soviet-union/the-end-of-the-soviet-union-texts/ukrainian-independence-declaration/

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  14. GPentelie Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):
    The real question is why doing so is either unreasonable, illegitimate or contrary to our national interests?

    From a geopolitical, great powers continually jostling for advantage standpoint, it is certainly not contrary to US national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”. Conversely, of course, it is certainly not contrary to Russia’s national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”, especially since they (unlike us) share a 1,400 mile border with it.

    So now we have a hot (and getting hotter) proxy war going. “Yippee!”

    Russia may not care what the Ukrainian people think about whose “sphere of influence” they should be in, but we should, and do.

     

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  15. kedavis Coolidge
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    GPentelie (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):
    The real question is why doing so is either unreasonable, illegitimate or contrary to our national interests?

    From a geopolitical, great powers continually jostling for advantage standpoint, it is certainly not contrary to US national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”. Conversely, of course, it is certainly not contrary to Russia’s national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”, especially since they (unlike us) share a 1,400 mile border with it.

    So now we have a hot (and getting hotter) proxy war going. “Yippee!”

    Russia may not care what the Ukrainian people think about whose “sphere of influence” they should be in, but we should, and do.

     

    Just because Biden et al may not be thinking that way, doesn’t mean the American People aren’t.

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  16. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Germany to supply Ukraine with its largest aid package yet, worth nearly 3 billion.

    Ukraine war: Germany to supply Ukraine with largest aid package yet | CNN

    The German Ministry of Defence said in a statement that the package may include a variety of military hardware, including armoured personnel carriers, 30 Leopard tanks, reconnaissance drones and ammunition.

    “With this valuable contribution of urgently needed military material, we are once again showing that Germany is serious about its support,” Germany’s Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said.

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  17. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Slovakia joins Poland in agreeing to give fighter jets to Ukraine.

    Slovakia joins Poland in agreeing to give fighter jets to Ukraine | PBS NewsHour

    Slovakia announced it would send 13 MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine in the coming weeks, joining fellow NATO member Poland. Slovakia’s MiG-29s were retired last summer and most are not operational. The country plans to send those that are, with the rest going as spare parts for Ukraine’s existing fleet.

    On Thursday, Polish President Andrzej Duda said his country would deliver four MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine in “the next few days,” making Poland the first NATO country to supply fighter planes to Ukraine. Slovakia is also a NATO member.

    Ukraine has long urgently requested warplanes to fight Russian forces. Poland, one of Ukraine’s staunchest supporters in its fight against Russia, has often taken the lead in persuading sometimes hesitant allies to provide Kyiv with heavy weapons. Duda hinted that Poland may send additional fighter jets in the coming weeks.

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  18. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni says the European Union should hurry up and let Ukraine into the European Union.

    Meloni: EU should hurry up and let Ukraine in – POLITICO

    The EU should speed up Ukraine’s accession process as a reward for its contribution to Europe’s security in fighting off Russia’s invasion, Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni said Wednesday.

    Ukraine “is an outpost for the security of the European continent,” Meloni said, standing next to Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal as part of a bilateral conference in Rome aimed at preparing the country’s reconstruction.

    “The smartest way to thank Ukrainians for what they are doing is to accelerate the possibility for them to become part of the European institutions,” Meloni added.

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  19. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Zelensky meeting with Meloni in Rome today to discuss Italy’s role in helping Ukraine win the war with Russia.

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  20. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Japan confirms pledge to deliver 1 trillion Yen in aid to Ukraine.  

    Japan confirms pledge to deliver ¥1 trillion promised aid to Ukraine | The Japan Times

    Foreign Minister Yoshimasa Hayashi pledged to “seamlessly and steadily” deliver assistance worth around ¥1 trillion ($7.6 billion) to Ukraine in a meeting Tuesday with his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba.

    Meeting on the sidelines of NATO talks in Brussels, Hayashi told Kuleba that Prime Minister Fumio Kishida’s recent visit to war-hit Ukraine demonstrated Japan’s “determination to maintain the open and free international order based on the rule of law,” according to the Foreign Ministry.

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  21. GPentelie Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):
    The real question is why doing so is either unreasonable, illegitimate or contrary to our national interests?

    From a geopolitical, great powers continually jostling for advantage standpoint, it is certainly not contrary to US national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”. Conversely, of course, it is certainly not contrary to Russia’s national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”, especially since they (unlike us) share a 1,400 mile border with it.

    So now we have a hot (and getting hotter) proxy war going. “Yippee!”

    Russia may not care what the Ukrainian people think about whose “sphere of influence” they should be in, but we should, and do.

     

    Just because Biden et al may not be thinking that way, doesn’t mean the American People aren’t.

    The American people don’t formulate and execute foreign policy, and there’s scant evidence that their opinions factor into the decision making process of the people who do. 

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  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    GPentelie (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):
    The real question is why doing so is either unreasonable, illegitimate or contrary to our national interests?

    From a geopolitical, great powers continually jostling for advantage standpoint, it is certainly not contrary to US national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”. Conversely, of course, it is certainly not contrary to Russia’s national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”, especially since they (unlike us) share a 1,400 mile border with it.

    So now we have a hot (and getting hotter) proxy war going. “Yippee!”

    Russia may not care what the Ukrainian people think about whose “sphere of influence” they should be in, but we should, and do.

     

    Just because Biden et al may not be thinking that way, doesn’t mean the American People aren’t.

    The American people don’t formulate and execute foreign policy, and there’s scant evidence that their opinions factor into the decision making process of the people who do.

    That’s not the point.  If the American People think Ukraine should be assisted, they might not care if Biden is doing it to line his own pockets.

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  23. GPentelie Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    GPentelie (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

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    lowtech redneck (View Comment):
    The real question is why doing so is either unreasonable, illegitimate or contrary to our national interests?

    From a geopolitical, great powers continually jostling for advantage standpoint, it is certainly not contrary to US national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”. Conversely, of course, it is certainly not contrary to Russia’s national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”, especially since they (unlike us) share a 1,400 mile border with it.

    So now we have a hot (and getting hotter) proxy war going. “Yippee!”

    Russia may not care what the Ukrainian people think about whose “sphere of influence” they should be in, but we should, and do.

     

    Just because Biden et al may not be thinking that way, doesn’t mean the American People aren’t.

    The American people don’t formulate and execute foreign policy, and there’s scant evidence that their opinions factor into the decision making process of the people who do.

    That’s not the point. If the American People think Ukraine should be assisted, they might not care if Biden is doing it to line his own pockets.

    Whether America’s foreign policy has anything to do with what the American people want or don’t want, care about or don’t care about at any given time, IS the point. And the answer to that is: No, it doesn’t really. Never has, except once in a blue moon, as a result of extraordinary events (e.g. Pearl Harbor, 9/11, etc.).

    U.S. foreign policy decisions are made by the people who make them in accordance with whatever criteria they choose to use in their infinite wisdom, then a skillfully crafted narrative in support of it is presented to the American people, and … voila!

    The Ukraine war (as well as what led up to it) is no different. When it comes time for it to end, the main geopolitical players (Russia, the U.S., U.K.) will meet behind closed doors and agree on terms (in “consultation” with Ukraine, of course), then the Ukrainian, American, Russian, etc. people will be presented by their respective governments with a … skillfully crafted narrative that will be good enough for them to be able to pivot relatively seamlessly back to focusing on their and their families’ daily lives and livelihoods.

    Until the next foreign policy topic of interest to the people who are in charge of foreign policy pops up. Like, … Taiwan?

    Lather. Rinse. Repeat. 

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  24. MiMac Thatcher
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    GPentelie (View Comment):

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    lowtech redneck (View Comment):
    The real question is why doing so is either unreasonable, illegitimate or contrary to our national interests?

    From a geopolitical, great powers continually jostling for advantage standpoint, it is certainly not contrary to US national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”. Conversely, of course, it is certainly not contrary to Russia’s national interests to have a Ukraine that is within its “sphere of influence”, especially since they (unlike us) share a 1,400 mile border with it.

    So now we have a hot (and getting hotter) proxy war going. “Yippee!”

    Russia may not care what the Ukrainian people think about whose “sphere of influence” they should be in, but we should, and do.

     

    Just because Biden et al may not be thinking that way, doesn’t mean the American People aren’t.

    The American people don’t formulate and execute foreign policy, and there’s scant evidence that their opinions factor into the decision making process of the people who do.

    That’s not the point. If the American People think Ukraine should be assisted, they might not care if Biden is doing it to line his own pockets.

    Whether America’s foreign policy has anything to do with what the American people want or don’t want, care about or don’t care about at any given time, IS the point. And the answer to that is: No, it doesn’t really. Never has, except once in a blue moon, as a result of extraordinary events (e.g. Pearl Harbor, 9/11, etc.).

    U.S. foreign policy decisions are made by the people who make them in accordance with whatever criteria they choose to use in their infinite wisdom, then a skillfully crafted narrative in support of it is presented to the American people, and … voila!

    The Ukraine war (as well as what led up to it) is no different. When it comes time for it to end, the main geopolitical players (Russia, the U.S., U.K.) will meet behind closed doors and agree on terms (in “consultation” with Ukraine, of course), then the Ukrainian, American, Russian, etc. people will be presented by their respective governments with a … skillfully crafted narrative that will be good enough for them to be able to pivot relatively seamlessly back to focusing on their and their families’ daily lives and livelihoods.

    Until the next foreign policy topic of interest to the people who are in charge of foreign policy pops up. Like, … Taiwan?

    Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

    Not sure Russia will qualify as a “main geopolitical player” in about 12 months….

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  25. MiMac Thatcher
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    WilliamDean (View Comment):

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    Zafar (View Comment):

    https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/23512-detaining-gonzalo-lira-another-blow-to-the-freedom-of-press-in-ukraine.html

    He’s not a Ukrainian citizen. During wartime, it’s normal to deport aliens who support the enemy.

    Or shoot them.

    You are confusing Russian policy with Ukrainian.

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  26. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Belarusian dictator Alexander Lukashenko checked into a hospital near Minsk, according to Belarusian publication Euroradio and watchdog Belarusian Hajun.

    They reported that Lukashenko’s convoy arrived to the hospital at around 7 p.m., during which time access to the clinic was closed off and the roads to it were guarded by armed enforcers.

    Lukashenko was publicly seen in Moscow celebrating Victory Day with Russian President Vladimir Putin and leaders of the Commonwealth of Independent States countries, where his apparent physical weakness drew attention.

    Unlike the other leaders, he had to be driven around the small perimeter where the event took place. He also missed an official lunch with Putin.

    Reuters noted that Lukashenko looked “tired and a little unsteady on his feet, and a bandage was visible on his right hand… though he otherwise showed no obvious signs of being unwell.”

    Later the same day, Lukashenko attended the Victory Day ceremony in Minsk. However, he broke from tradition and wore a suit instead of his military uniform and did not make a speech. Lukashenko has also attended very few events in the past two weeks.

    Belarusian dictator Alexander Lukashenko’s swift departure from the Red Square Victory Day events sparks rumors about the dictator’s health.

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  27. MiMac Thatcher
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    Unsk (View Comment):

    The Donbas and Crimea were never part of historic Ukraine. Crimea was a Byzantine outpost long before there was a Ukraine. The Donbas was largely settled in the late 1800’s by immigrants, many of them from Russia with the Soviets importing millions more ethnic Russians to the area during their rule. Those areas repeatedly in plebiscites since the 90’s have opted to align with Russia, because millions of ethnic Russians live in those areas and they have been abused repeatedly by the Ukrainian government. Much of the problem goes back to early WWII when thousands of ethnic Russians in those areas were rounded up and taken to German prison camps in Germany. There is very bad blood on both sides, and a strong Neo-Nazi element to the present Ukrainian regime which doesn’t help.

    An insurgency against Russia in those areas is thus very unlikely. There was an insurgency against Ukraine and a low level war brewing in those areas since 2014 following the Maiden Coup. The rest of Ukraine is a completely different story. It is historic Ukraine and inhabited in large part by ethnic Ukrainians who have a different culture than the Russians. Btw, Zelensky ran as a “peace” candidate several years ago promising to resolve the differences between the two factions and the fighting in the Donbas, but once elected became a “war” President who purposely inflamed the problem, prior to the Russia invasion.

    The cost of this war to America is far, far greater in many magnitudes greater than the $100 Billion in spending or so that we have thrown at it so far. It is effectively in the many, many trillions.

    The energy and food supply chain of the world has perhaps been permanently altered to the great and very expensive detriment to the American consumer and to the rest of the world. People will starve in great numbers. There is already a world wide rice crisis.

    We are no longer considered a trustworthy ally by much of the world outside the G7 because of our illegal sanctions, our sponsorship of terrorist attacks against Russian assets, and our reckless lack of concern for the consequences of this war. Our ability to broker diplomatic deals worldwide has been severely constrained. Nations outside the G7 are abandoning the Dollar as the World Reserve Currency like crazy, which will eventually bring great inflation from a diminished dollar value and will eventually severely limit our ability to fund our gigantic debt.

    This war was orchestrated by the Biden Adminstration and other WEF friendly governments in Europe to create another crisis wrecking our and Europe’s economies leaving them prostrate along with the other manufactured crisis like the COVID pandemic for a WEF Great Reset takeover.

    It is amazing that a borderline (or more) demented old man like Biden is such a genius that he orchestrated the war by getting Putin to launch an idiotic invasion that lead to the decimation of the regular Russian army. It was the worst planned military operation since Old Jo’s  withdrawal from Afghanistan- but at least the US casualties from the withdrawal were small. Next you are going to tell me that Hunter Biden was hired by all those firms b/c he is also a genius…..

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  28. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Raxxalan (View Comment):

    From Aljazeera (August 2021):

    Since 2001, the United States has spent $2.26 trillion in Afghanistan, the Costs of War Project at Brown University calculates – an investment that has yielded a chaotic, humiliating end to America’s longest war.

    Exactly subduing a population is a difficult thing.  That having been said.  If it had wished and/ or had the will the taliban could not have won against the US. In the end we did choose to leave.  Unlike Germany, Japan, and Korea the difference is Russia may not have a choice.

    Afghanistan is a crappy land far from D.C. and Moscow.  Eastern Ukraine is literally attached to the heartland of Russia that has been part of “Rus” in the past.  The logistics and motivation cannot be compared with Afghanistan.  Nope.     That said, Russia has shown no ability to take and hold any land not already occupied by Russian-language speakers.   

    I heard reports today that China is stepping up diplomatic efforts with Russia and Ukraine.  China has money and influence to make something happen.  Perhaps with a long-term payoff for their Belt-and-Road project.

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  29. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    Steve C. (View Comment):

    My completely unfounded suspicion is our mothballed tank fleet has more in common with Russian war stocks.

     

    I wouldn’t be surprised, what good is maintaining tanks in the fight against climate change and ‘white supremacy’?

    Especially since they’re not electric!

    I need to defend Granholm here.   The term “fleet” in the auto industry refers to bulk sales of production passenger cars.   When the military switches the fleet vehicles to electric, that refers to the Fords and Chevys used to drive around domestic bases.  

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  30. Zafar Member
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):
    That said, Russia has shown no ability to take and hold any land not already occupied by Russian-language speakers.   

    Dunno man, that’s actually how a lot of them became Russian speakers.

    courtesy wiki:

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    Some of this they lost post-Soviet Union, but a lot of it they kept.  There are still a lot of languages that are not Russian which are spoken in the Russian Federation today.

    And Russian remains the link language for Central Asia (just like English does for the Commonwealth).

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