The Tale of Anthony Fauci

 

Fauci was in his late seventies when COVID-19 emerged, still at his job as the head of NIAID (National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease), a position he had held since 1984 — 39 years. He was the highest-paid employee on the federal payroll and finally retired at the end of 2022 at the age of 82. He is, no doubt, an ageless and vigorous octogenarian. He could have retired at 65, or even 62, but instead chose to work full-time. Fauci was driven, dedicated, and invested in this role. Fully invested.

His wife, some 11 years younger, remains a public health employee, highly paid, a nurse, and the “bioethicist” for the National Institute of Health. In this role, she oversees NIH policy, ensuring that NIH recommendations, decisions, and policies meet basic medical ethical standards; so that no harm is done and public interests are not compromised. Her husband’s official actions during the pandemic fell under her ethical oversight.

In the 1980s, Fauci championed the NIH’s attempts to find an AIDS vaccine. That stream didn’t pan out, which must have been very disappointing for Dr. Fauci. He’s always been a big vaccine promoter and seemed to favor the vaccine approach to viral infection over therapeutics. Anyone as strongly vax-favored had to believe in the effective resilience of natural immunity. Traditional vaccines (as opposed to mRNA gene therapy) mimic real viral infection using weak or compromised viruses, thus initiating a full and resilient natural immune response.

Early on, when the Covid-19 pandemic seemed inevitable, Fauci realized he might be compromised. There was credible evidence the virus had escaped from the CCP’s Wuhan virology lab. In the late summer or early fall of 2019, there were reports of unusual respiratory infections, even deaths of lab workers. The lab was moved from civilian to Chinese military control and its HVAC systems were completely revamped. Lab workers were rumored to have been “disappeared.” And this lab was home to the Bat-lady, a researcher renowned for the genetic manipulation of bat coronaviruses.

Fauci had given the go-ahead to provide Eco Health Alliance, a Washington-based health research outfit, with a substantial grant to help fund continued work in that Wuhan Lab. The research was related to chimera (manipulated) coronaviruses. Years before, this research had been funded by the USDOD. Their support was later withdrawn as the high-risk nature of this research became apparent. Dr. Fauci was one of the few high-level NIH officials with the authority to green-light the Wuhan initiative and continue funding the COV research despite the risks. He signed off. Had Covid-19 leaked from the Wuhan lab, he and his cohorts could be culpable or compromised.

There was some panic among those closest to the Wuhan funding. Fauci quickly convened a meeting of top, hand-selected virologists and commissioned a paper, denouncing the “lab leak” as a conspiracy and in support of a natural evolution of SARS-Cov-2 from bats to other mammals and eventually, to humans. He edited this paper himself and after its publication, trumpeted its “findings” publicly, never once acknowledging his participation. Those associated with the paper later had substantial NIH grant monies approved. The threat, it seems, was staunched.

Thus Operation Warp Speed was saved and the mRNA “vaccine” accelerated. There were obstacles to Fauci’s eventual plans for mass vaccination. The emergency approval of the mRNA therapies was not assured. By law, there could be no viable alternative therapies. This would explain later Fauci’s and the NIH’s stubborn and continued refusals to acknowledge the efficacy of Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, and all other alternative antibiotic protocols that many doctors found remarkably effective and safe. Effective therapeutics threatened mRNA therapy’s emergency-use authorization. This denigration of alternative therapies was so pervasive that pharmacists refused to fill prescriptions and prescribing doctors were threatened in some states with loss of license.

mRNA therapies also had to be relabeled “vaccines” to allow Big Pharma to avoid the risks of legal repercussion should there be adverse reaction. The NIH dutifully expanded the official definition of a “vaccine” to allow mRNA therapy to fall under a blanket of exemption of vaccines from legal reprisal.

There are a few other things that Fauci had to know. He had to know that despite much effort, no one had ever been able to produce an effective traditional vaccine (some 20% of common colds are coronavirus infections) for any human coronavirus infection. He also had to know that an antibody response to a single protein initiated by mRNA introduction (the protein on a Covid-19 spike) was not likely to be as effective, and certainly could never be as resilient, as a full immune response caused by an actual Covid-19 infection.

Yet, despite this knowledge, Fauci pushed the “vaccines” and downplayed the obvious superiority of natural immunity. He even said that vaccine immunity was superior, an assertion he knew he could not support; all this in his attempt to promote mass inoculation.

There were also a few things that neither Fauci nor the mRNA producers could not know at the time the mRNA therapies received their provisional approvals. They could not know how long mRNA remained in the body, and if it persisted, where it might accumulate. They also did not know whether this possible persistence would result in the body’s continued production of the spike protein long after vaccination. They also did not know what the potential toxic effects, especially the cumulative potential toxic effects, would be with serial injections of mRNA, of spike proteins, of dense lipids, and of nanocarbon fibers, especially in tissues where these things might accumulate. We still don’t know these things, but what we do know is that the mRNA vaccines are not benign.

The national health experts were so arrogant, they did not even recommend needle aspiration when injecting the vaccine, a simple technique used to ensure that the injection would not be made directly into vascular tissue where it could travel directly to the heart, lungs, heart again, and brain.

There was some evidence in the initial trials indicating that the various mRNA vaccines might not be benign, but this evidence was either hidden, rationalized, or ignored. The drug manufacturers were more than happy to sell their newly minted “vaccines” because, of course, they were making bank and they were exempt from legal reprisal. Fauci, the vax-man, was completely vested in promoting, even mandating, universal vaccination; that is, playing the savior; something he’d always wanted to be. He loved the adoration and the spotlight. As his luster started to tarnish with criticism, he called himself “the science.”

The result of this arrogance? The credibility of public health officials is at or near zero. Billions and billions of taxpayer dollars were and continue to be spent promoting useless vaccines and masks. People likely died because they did not receive safe and effective therapeutics banned by public health authorities. Folks who defied silly mandates, especially those with natural immunity, lost their jobs. Businesses failed. Children were and continue to be injected with mRNA, nanocarbon fibers, and dense lipids despite infinitesimally small risk and insufficient testing and safety. Children missed months and months of school and peer interaction. Susceptible older Americans died, locked down and alone. More businesses failed. The economy tanked and continues to do so. Sitting politicians were blamed, causing a change in government, and then inflation, chaos, and further decline.

Not all this can be laid at the feet of Dr. Anthony Fauci. Much of it belongs to China and CCP, whose lab it was that created this bug and who sponsored its existence. Fauci’s part in the story, not yet completely told, is neo-Shakespearian. As the deleterious effects of the mRNA vaccines persist and become more obvious, there will be a reckoning. At the forefront of this reckoning will be the name Fauci, for forcing upon us a “cure” that was worse than the disease, and for playing a role in the rise of the disease itself. He will be seen as the man with his finger in the dike, who also helped design and build the faulty dike itself and failed to predict the flood behind it. History will not be good to him.

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  1. Ekosj Member
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    Re:  “useless vaccines”  

    In an otherwise fascinating post, this is a bridge waaaaay too far.

    Sure, babies, children, healthy adults less than 30 ish don’t need the vaccines.   Their chances of a bad outcome from Covid are small.  Folks of all ages who are at risk and folks over 60ish probably should because the odds of a bad Covid outcome is  far larger.
    But if there was an overall danger then we’d see widespread deaths that go up in relation to % of population vaccinated.   And we don’t.   We see just the reverse.

    The graphic depicts cumulative excess deaths per 100,000 population on the vertices axis and % of population over 60 years old.   To avoid other influences, let’s look at High Income Countries – pink in the above graphic.

    From highest excess deaths  per capita to lowest we have

    Romania

    Poland

    Italy

    USA

    Great Britain

    Germany

    France

    SKorea

    Japan

    Given that COVID hits the elderly especially hard  it’s unusual that Japan has both the oldest population and smallest excess death.

    I’ve looked up the number of doses of vaccine administered per 100 population and added it into the excess death ranking …

    Romania          86

    Poland            145

    Italy                 243

    USA                  200

    GrBritain       224

    Germany       228

    France            226

    SKorea           250

    Japan              299

    Japan is the most doses administered per 100 population.   Most people are vaccinated and double boosted.   So, if the vaccines are harmful then Japan – the most thoroughly vaccinated country –  should have the highest excess deaths not the lowest.   In fact, there is a clear inverse relationship between  vaccines and excess death…. The more thoroughly vaccinated a country the lower the excess deaths.    This is exactly the reverse of what would be expected if the “useless” at best and probably harmful  screed was correct.

    The outlier is Italy.   Looking at the excess deaths, the vast majority occurred before April 2021 … that is, before vaccines were widely available.   In short, vaccines go a long way to preventing poor outcomes of Covid infection…especially among the old and at risk.   Every data set shows this.

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  2. Doug Kimball Thatcher
    Doug Kimball
    @DougKimball

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    Re: “useless vaccines”

    In an otherwise fascinating post, this is a bridge waaaaay too far.

    Sure, babies, children, healthy adults less than 30 ish don’t need the vaccines. Their chances of a bad outcome from Covid are small. Folks of all ages who are at risk and folks over 60ish probably should because the odds of a bad Covid outcome is far larger.
    But if there was an overall danger then we’d see widespread deaths that go up in relation to % of population vaccinated. And we don’t. We see just the reverse.

    The graphic depicts cumulative excess deaths per 100,000 population on the vertices axis and % of population over 60 years old. To avoid other influences, let’s look at High Income Countries – pink in the above graphic.

    From highest excess deaths per capita to lowest we have

    Romania

    Poland

    Italy

    USA

    Great Britain

    Germany

    France

    SKorea

    Japan

    Given that COVID hits the elderly especially hard it’s unusual that Japan has both the oldest population and smallest excess death.

    I’ve looked up the number of doses of vaccine administered per 100 population and added it into the excess death ranking …

    Romania 86

    Poland 145

    Italy 243

    USA 200

    GrBritain 224

    Germany 228

    France 226

    SKorea 250

    Japan 299

    Japan is the most doses administered per 100 population. Most people are vaccinated and double boosted. So, if the vaccines are harmful then Japan – the most thoroughly vaccinated country – should have the highest excess deaths not the lowest. In fact, there is a clear inverse relationship between vaccines and excess death…. The more thoroughly vaccinated a country the lower the excess deaths. This is exactly the reverse of what would be expected if the “useless” at best and probably harmful screed was correct.

    The outlier is Italy. Looking at the excess deaths, the vast majority occurred before April 2021 … that is, before vaccines were widely available. In short, vaccines go a long way to preventing poor outcomes of Covid infection…especially among the old and at risk. Every data set shows this.

    Perhaps I deserve some criticism, however, I will say this in my defense: the vax was promoted to all folks, even children, and continues to be.  Older folks were less reluctant to get vaxxed, and most did.  They were prioritized early on.  Most people have now either been vaxxed or have had Covid 19, or both, even those over 60.  I’ve had it twice.  In addition, the disease has evolved.  It is no longer the threat it was with the first few strains.  My feeling, as always, is if health authorities want people to continue to chase vax immunity, let them make their case, now, based upon current strains and conditions; show us the real, current data.  And be honest about the vaccine side effects.  Let people make their own decisions.   And as for people under 50, the vaccination itself, especially multiple vaccines, poses its own risk and it may be significant.   Theraputics are known to be safe and effective.  Even with older people, thereaputics like monclonal antibodies, Ivermectin and Hydro chloroquine pose great outcomes and very little risk.

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  3. Jim McConnell Member
    Jim McConnell
    @JimMcConnell

    Look up the word hubris in your dictionary and you will find Dr. Fauci’s photograph.

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  4. Doug Kimball Thatcher
    Doug Kimball
    @DougKimball

    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    Look up the word hubris in your dictionary and you will find Dr. Fauci’s photograph.

    He takes all sides and repeats every argument on all side of an issue.  That way he can always refer to a tape of himself citing the correct position.

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  5. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot)
    @ArizonaPatriot

    Doug, it’s my impression that HCQ and Ivermectin didn’t actually pan out.

    Further, even if they did, what was their degree of effectiveness?  As Ekosj pointed out, the vaccines were effective.  In general, the vaccines were more effective against the worst outcomes — i.e. most effective against death, less effective but still good against hospitalization, and so on, to moderately effective against symptomatic infection.

    The effectiveness did tend to decrease over time, probably due to the emergence of new variants, which was part of the reason behind the boosters.  It seems, to me, that this is similar to the way that we handle flu vaccines.

    I do admit that I haven’t done recent research lately about the efficacy of HCQ and Ivermectin.  In a quick search, I found a couple of fairly recent meta-analyses (late 2021 and 2022), finding that HCQ was not effective.  There might be contrary data out there.  The Ivermectin results appear mixed.

    Personally, I’m not particularly concerned about Fauci’s role in the vaccinations.  I do agree with both you and Ekosj that it was unnecessary, and unwise, to require vaccination of the young.

    My bigger problem with Fauci was his advocacy of the lockdowns.  I think that this was very bad policy. 

    I also agree with your concern about Fauci’s role in the suppression of the lab leak hypothesis.  Over the past six months or so, this seems to have emerged as the most likely explanation, though my own opinion on this is not conclusive — nor have I investigated it much, lately.

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  6. Buckpasser Member
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    @Buckpasser

    Herr fauci said that the vaccine protecrs you against getting infected.  I think he’s a self centered lunatic.  Anything could go wrong as long as he gets praised in th New York Times.  Anyone who wants his recommendation for anything is deranged.

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  7. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot)
    @ArizonaPatriot

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Herr fauci said that the vaccine protecrs you against getting infected. I think he’s a self centered lunatic. Anything could go wrong as long as he gets praised in th New York Times. Anyone who wants his recommendation for anything is deranged.

    What, exactly, did he say?

    Based on the initial clinical trials, the vaccine did protect against infection, at least if this is understood to mean symptomatic infection.

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  8. Buckpasser Member
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    @Buckpasser

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Herr fauci said that the vaccine protecrs you against getting infected. I think he’s a self centered lunatic. Anything could go wrong as long as he gets praised in th New York Times. Anyone who wants his recommendation for anything is deranged.

    What, exactly, did he say?

    Based on the initial clinical trials, the vaccine did protect against infection, at least if this is understood to mean symptomatic infection.

    12/10/20 in a Cuomo interview.

     

    “those who are vaccinated would be prevented from getting clinical disease, but may still have the virus.”

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  9. Jim McConnell Member
    Jim McConnell
    @JimMcConnell

    Doug Kimball (View Comment):

    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    Look up the word hubris in your dictionary and you will find Dr. Fauci’s photograph.

    He takes all sides and repeats every argument on all side of an issue. That way he can always refer to a tape of himself citing the correct position.

    Remember when he first became known as “the expert,” and shortly appeared poolside at his home in a luxury page-one spread on one of the slick fashion magazine? That’s when I decided that he was (and still is) a fake and a publicity hound. I wouldn’t trust him for the time of day.

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  10. Caryn Thatcher
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    @Caryn

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Herr fauci said that the vaccine protecrs you against getting infected. I think he’s a self centered lunatic. Anything could go wrong as long as he gets praised in th New York Times. Anyone who wants his recommendation for anything is deranged.

    What, exactly, did he say?

    Based on the initial clinical trials, the vaccine did protect against infection, at least if this is understood to mean symptomatic infection.

    12/10/20 in a Cuomo interview.

     

    “those who are vaccinated would be prevented from getting clinical disease, but may still have the virus.”

    Buckpasser, your quote directly supports what Jerry said.  Try again.  The vaccine, and yes it is a vaccine not “gene therapy,” is effective in preventing severe disease, hospitalization, and death.  Not 100%, as very little is that effective, but quite so.  The comparison to flu vaccine is apt.  Both decrease morbidity and mortality, but are not wholly successful at preventing infection.  This is a big problem with rapidly evolving respiratory viruses.

    Jerry is also correct that HCQ and ivermectin have repeatedly been shown not to work.  Both drugs, like many antimicrobials, have an anti-inflammatory side benefit.  Like ibuprofen, aspirin, and steroids.  This is a well known effect of azithromycin and why so many “Z-packs” are given for colds.  The drug may help against a bacterial superinfection, but mainly its anti-inflammatory properties make the patient feel better almost immediately.  Very plausibly HCQ and ivermectin did/do the same.  They make people who would have gotten better on their own–remember, the survival rate is over 99%–feel better sooner.  That’s fine, but it’s not an effective antiviral, and motrin would have done just as well.  In fact, more than one study looked at aspirin and found it effective. 

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  11. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    Doug Kimball (View Comment):

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    Re: “useless vaccines”

    In an otherwise fascinating post, this is a bridge waaaaay too far.

    Sure, babies, children, healthy adults less than 30 ish don’t need the vaccines. Their chances of a bad outcome from Covid are small. Folks of all ages who are at risk and folks over 60ish probably should because the odds of a bad Covid outcome is far larger.
    But if there was an overall danger then we’d see widespread deaths that go up in relation to % of population vaccinated. And we don’t. We see just the reverse.

     

    SNIP & SNIP

     

    Perhaps I deserve some criticism, however, I will say this in my defense: the vax was promoted to all folks, even children, and continues to be. SNIP  And be honest about the vaccine side effects. Let people make their own decisions. And as for people under 50, the vaccination itself, especially multiple vaccines, poses its own risk and it may be significant. Theraputics are known to be safe and effective. Even with older people, thereaputics like monclonal antibodies, Ivermectin and Hydro chloroquine pose great outcomes and very little risk.

    I think it admirable that you did not cherry pick and did not focus on statistics after the vaxxes came abt. Because for one thing: many vax deaths were called COVID deaths.

    Looking prior to the vaccines’ release:

    It is easy to assess how effective cheap, readily available and safe and proven to work remedies like ivermectin, HCQ + zinc & other treatments  like hi dose Vit C, or D  happen to be by simply examining the death toll in nations where HCQ is available over the counter, or else used by the medical people throughout the country.

    Vietnam is one nation  where HCQ has been  available over the counter. There it is used  by many not only to defeat malaria but to counter agitated sinuses, sore throats and the common cold.

    So by the end of 2020, Vietnam had a mere 100 COV deaths, out of its populace of 32 million.

    Japan had one corpse for every 62 corpses we had here in the USA. By Nov 2020, Japan had ~1900 fatalities, which is remarkable for a nation of 126 million people.

    So did Fauci, Tedros or the other “health experts” state: “Gee maybe we should follow Japan’s example and do as they do. We will stop with fentanyl, remdesivir (called “Run! Death is near” by nurses,)  rocephin and switch to favipirivar, HCQ + zinc? And we will also stop insisting on ventilators but use C Pap machines – much less expensive & far less invasive for an ill person to deal with.

    Nope. Of course that is not what we did. Instead, the media that Gates had so heavily donated & Invested in  began reporting by late Nov  that Japan’s fatality rate was doubling – even though by the time this doubling maxed out in Jan 2021, the fatality count was only 4,400, again out of  126 million people.

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  12. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill
    @CarolJoy

    One extremely important COVID protocol clip of a video – the way Sweden handled the pandemic:

    It includes May 2020 CNN footage as final proof.
    Please retweet, tagging those in media etc. who still won’t acknowledge  that the lockdown/mask effectiveness is now DISPROVEN. Let the record show..
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1633203017301237763

    Yes, the sensible protocol that was established in Sweden shows major indications that “asymptomatic spread” was a belief for poopy heads and that lockdowns and masks accomplished nothing and in the end did not prove to be necessary.

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  13. Buckpasser Member
    Buckpasser
    @Buckpasser

    So, I guess no one who got the vaccine ever got COVID?

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  14. Skyler Coolidge
    Skyler
    @Skyler

    1.  Fauci is a criminal.  

    2.  The Moderna vaccine made me really, really weak for over a year.  I’ve finally recovered from it, but immediately after taking the first dose of Moderna I felt really weak, hard to breathe, and unable to run or carry things of much weight.  

    3.  My employer informed me that although it is not required, that I have to have had seven, count them seven, jabs to be considered fully vaccinated.

    4.  I would really like to see some j-urinalyst ask for a list of the names of the untold hordes of people who have died of the corona.  I don’t believe a word the government says and I would really like to know those names, talk to their families and confirm the death toll they claim.  And confirm their mode of death.

    5.  We have learned that we can’t remotely trust our government anymore.  That is either a crime or a revelation that will free us again.  I’m betting the “free” part is a long time coming.

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  15. JoelB Member
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    It seems that many, who should know better, believe that the vaccines are effective in preventing the spread of Covid. Every time I visit friends in a local assisted living facility, I must fill out a survey that asks among other things, if I am fully vaccinated for Covid. Even if I was, which I am not, I could very likely spread the virus if I were infected. I have to mask up to be in the public parts of the building and we all know that will not make a difference.

    The podiatrists’ office that I take my friend to has a sign at the door that says that masks are not necessary for the fully vaccinated. My philosophy about that is if they don’t ask, I don’t tell.

    The dogma lives large in the medical practices at an official level even though the staff seems much more relaxed about it now. 

    Many people now know that they have been lied to for years, and in a way it is a good thing. We are not so quick to rely on whatever the so-called experts say, but to think for ourselves and find our own ways to health.

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  16. Doug Kimball Thatcher
    Doug Kimball
    @DougKimball

    Caryn (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Herr fauci said that the vaccine protecrs you against getting infected. I think he’s a self centered lunatic. Anything could go wrong as long as he gets praised in th New York Times. Anyone who wants his recommendation for anything is deranged.

    What, exactly, did he say?

    Based on the initial clinical trials, the vaccine did protect against infection, at least if this is understood to mean symptomatic infection.

    12/10/20 in a Cuomo interview.

     

    “those who are vaccinated would be prevented from getting clinical disease, but may still have the virus.”

    Buckpasser, your quote directly supports what Jerry said. Try again. The vaccine, and yes it is a vaccine not “gene therapy,” is effective in preventing severe disease, hospitalization, and death. Not 100%, as very little is that effective, but quite so. The comparison to flu vaccine is apt. Both decrease morbidity and mortality, but are not wholly successful at preventing infection. This is a big problem with rapidly evolving respiratory viruses.

    Jerry is also correct that HCQ and ivermectin have repeatedly been shown not to work. Both drugs, like many antimicrobials, have an anti-inflammatory side benefit. Like ibuprofen, aspirin, and steroids. This is a well known effect of azithromycin and why so many “Z-packs” are given for colds. The drug may help against a bacterial superinfection, but mainly its anti-inflammatory properties make the patient feel better almost immediately. Very plausibly HCQ and ivermectin did/do the same. They make people who would have gotten better on their own–remember, the survival rate is over 99%–feel better sooner. That’s fine, but it’s not an effective antiviral, and motrin would have done just as well. In fact, more than one study looked at aspirin and found it effective.

    It is only a vaccine because he NIH definition of vaccine was changed to include mRNA delivery devices.  Had that change not been made, mRNA delivery devices would be theraputics, not vaccines, hence their producers would bear liability if they proved harmful.

    Gene therapy is commonly referred to as the introduction of genetic material, artificially, into a patient for some particular purpose like to correct a harmful genetic mutation.  mRNA delivery devices do inject genetic material into a person.  These therapies alter a cells particular purpose, much like a virus does, by injecting RNA (which is genetic material) into cells, reprogramming their biological purpose to function as a replicator of the COV spike protein.  Folks don’t want to call this gene therapy because that is scary.  But it really is.  And it is also scary for a host of reasons we are only beginning to understand. 

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  17. Doug Kimball Thatcher
    Doug Kimball
    @DougKimball

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Herr fauci said that the vaccine protecrs you against getting infected. I think he’s a self centered lunatic. Anything could go wrong as long as he gets praised in th New York Times. Anyone who wants his recommendation for anything is deranged.

    What, exactly, did he say?

    Based on the initial clinical trials, the vaccine did protect against infection, at least if this is understood to mean symptomatic infection.

    12/10/20 in a Cuomo interview.

     

    “those who are vaccinated would be prevented from getting clinical disease, but may still have the virus.”

    Typical doublespeak from Fauci.  No vaccine prevents infection.  It can quickly extinguish infection if exposed when the immune response is still strong, but all viruses change and immunities fade over time.  

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  18. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
    GlennAmurgis
    @GlennAmurgis

    Fauci will skate. 

    Corporate media will cover for him and the permanent bureaucracy will cover for their own.

    Those Fauci candles will end up in the dollar store and his media hits will slow to nil but he will still be getting his tax payer funded pension and won’t pay a price for the damage he did to this country.

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  19. Eugene Kriegsmann Member
    Eugene Kriegsmann
    @EugeneKriegsmann

    There is no question of Fauci’s culpability, but many politicians, including the, for some, Sainted Donald Trump. His inadequacies as a leader cannot be ignored, particularly when compared to the manner in which Ron DeSantis handled the virus in Florida. The intellectual differences between DeSantis, an intelligent, informed, and actively intellectual politician and Trump who, but for the accident of birth, might have grown up to be a used car salesman is stunning. Trump’s ignorance of basic biology, his germophobia, and his other neurotic conditions made it possible for a drug pushing huckster like Fauci to intimidate him and to, in essence, create public policy for which Trump bore the responsibility. A piece of work like Fauci can only gain the power and control he did under a weak and indecisive leader. What followed was a mix of the political insanity of the left and a senile buffoon who Fauci could manipulate with the grace of a master puppeteer, all reinforced by the ridiculous Orangeman Bad narrative.

    In selecting the next Republican to run for the presidency let’s choose someone with more than the average brain power, someone able to read, study, learn and apply the information about any rising crisis, and to take sensible, thoughtful actions which do not destroy our nation and allow unnecessary deaths so that some elite-owned institution can profit.

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  20. Old Bathos Member
    Old Bathos
    @OldBathos

    In a qualified defense of Fauci, the push to find a vaccine solution for teh pandemic was near-universal from elected officials, the health bureaucracy, and the pharmaceutical companies.  Neither was Fauci solely culpable for cutting corners, misrepresenting vaccine efficacy, and endorsing mandates.

    But nothing in his handling of the crisis was admirable or even adequate.  That would have required character, humility and either more competence or a willingness to defer to those who were compentent.

    Fauci and his closest colleagues knew at the outset that closures, masks etc. would have near-zero effect.  The science nvere changed. But the need to (appear to) Do Something immediately led to acting to grant cover to interventionist governors and encouraging media hostility to those not following The Science(TM) as crafted by the intervention frauds, even to the extent of lying to the public and Congress.  His famous flip-flops about masks, his waffling on school closures, his absurd claims that the downside of the first seasonality curve in NY was due to following his guidance, and his weird need to be on TV all day every day were all pretty diagnostic of bother his lack of character and abundance of ego.

    But the real core of Anthony Fauci is love of the power and influence he wields over the entire American research and biomedical industries–and beyond.  He repeatedly turned down the job of heading entire NIH because he would no longer have control (and be subject to far more scrutiny) regarding many millions in federal research dollars.  It is good to be a friend of Tony if you need grant money.  Very bad to be his enemy.  The COVID-19 lab leak was a threat to his empire and the pre-emptive lies he orchestrated showed him to be the corrupt uber-bureaucrat he had been for 40 years.

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  21. EJHill Podcaster
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    Jerry Giordano: Doug, it’s my impression that HCQ and Ivermectin didn’t actually pan out.

    Folks on Twitter keep telling me that there have been plenty of studies to show just that. And to every one that does I ask if they can show me a study of the cocktail some seemed to have success with. No one has provided me with that yet. (There is one that I know of in Ventura, CA that was limited to 24 patients, was not double-blind and had a 100% success rate.)

    There are several AIDS cocktails out there, some with three drugs, others with four. Obviously, one drug absent the others isn’t going to have the desired results. So any trial of just HCQ or just Ivermectin not working is hardly surprising. But the “studies” provided the desired political result, right?

     

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  22. Max Knots Member
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    All good points Doug and a good summary.

    Anecdotally – I know people for whom both ivermectin, monoclonal antibodies, and HCL worked, if administered very early. The “early” was the key. That’s why the direction of many hospitals to physicians to “send them home until they’re turning blue!” was problematic. 

    Correlation doesn’t prove causation. The percentage of morbidly obese among the early victims remains noteworthy though not well-studied. Who knew that “eat your carrots” could help protect against the WuFlu? (just kidding…)

    Less noted but equally concerning is the spike protein toxicity issue Doug mentions. So many more miscarriages than normal among young otherwise healthy women.  Coincidence? Some claim it was because of COVID itself. But no one has been interested in doing the necessary randomized study to date (in this country). Wouldn’t it be ironic if, in our zeal to counter a virus that some have claimed “could” have been associated with bioweapons research, we actually created a tool that promoted sterility and miscarriages? I know – the stuff of tin foil hats and unicorns. 

    A final concern I have is the push to include the COVID vaccine on the list of mandatory childhood vaccines. The pharmaceutical companies need this for immunity from prosecution (I’ve read).  But who in their right mind, after seeing the statistics of the past three years, wants to give their kids “the jab”? I’m sure I’m not the only one wondering about the sudden rise in “sudden unexplained” deaths – usually cardiac-related – among otherwise healthy young people who have coincidentally received a COVID jab.

    Too many coincidences for me…..

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  23. No Caesar Thatcher
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    @NoCaesar

    Interesting post and comments.  However, be careful about conflating the way in which the vaccine/therapeutics are created – mRNA – and the way in which they treat the patient.

    I agree with your comments with regard Dr. Fauci.  I’ve loathed that man for 15 years.

    No question the public health officials lied, manipulated and destroyed public trust in them.  However, that doesn’t mean all the wild anti-vax stories are true.

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  24. Jack Mantle Member
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    @JackMantle

    I like the cut of your jib.  Nice post amigo.

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  25. cdor Member
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    @cdor

    I and my wife are healthy 70-year-olds and we are not scientists. It was the winter of 2021 and the mRNA medicine to treat the deadly COVID virus was just coming on the market. It was not FDA-approved and I was not at all anxious to become a guinea pig. The shots were not all that prevalent and easy to get at that time, but the virus was still very scary and many people were dying from/with it. My doctor called on a Sunday night in February and excitedly told me that he had access for his patients to get us the shots. My wife and I had decided that we were going to take the shots and were, indeed, having a little trouble finding availability. We went ahead and signed up and a few weeks later got our first of two Pfizer COVID shots. We were fully vaccinated. or so we thought, by the end of March 2021. But wait! About mid-summer, the word is floating that maybe we were not as vaccinated as we thought, and were previously told, that we were. Not to worry…just take another shot…they called it a booster. My wife was a little more amenable than I was. But for me, the thought of needing a booster just four or five months after I had finished my two-shot prerequisite elicited all kinds of mistrustful feelings. We both decided that we were not jumping into the government’s inky dark pond without knowing what else was in the deep water. I had tried to purchase HCQ a year earlier. Even with my doctor’s prescription, CVS wouldn’t sell it to me. Then President Trump, in one of his agonizing daily press conferences spoke positively of the drug. I called my doctor back and asked him to try again with the HCQ and this time they filled the prescription for both me and my wife. But right from the start, the entire public health reaction became political and I became distrustful. I remain distrustful but am encouraged that we are finally beginning to break through the censors and with opposing ideas now openly being discussed, we may finally get to some truth. Thank you for this post and for opening this discussion @dougkimball.

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  26. Doug Kimball Thatcher
    Doug Kimball
    @DougKimball

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    There is no question of Fauci’s culpability, but many politicians, including the, for some, Sainted Donald Trump. His inadequacies as a leader cannot be ignored, particularly when compared to the manner in which Ron DeSantis handled the virus in Florida. The intellectual differences between DeSantis, an intelligent, informed, and actively intellectual politician and Trump who, but for the accident of birth, might have grown up to be a used car salesman is stunning. Trump’s ignorance of basic biology, his germophobia, and his other neurotic conditions made it possible for a drug pushing huckster like Fauci to intimidate him and to, in essence, create public policy for which Trump bore the responsibility. A piece of work like Fauci can only gain the power and control he did under a weak and indecisive leader. What followed was a mix of the political insanity of the left and a senile buffoon who Fauci could manipulate with the grace of a master puppeteer, all reinforced by the ridiculous Orangeman Bad narrative.

    In selecting the next Republican to run for the presidency let’s choose someone with more than the average brain power, someone able to read, study, learn and apply the information about any rising crisis, and to take sensible, thoughtful actions which do not destroy our nation and allow unnecessary deaths so that some elite-owned institution can profit.

    In deference to Trump, of course he had to listen to and attempt to trust his medical advisors.  I sensed his skepticism, but I also understand his deference, which opened the door for the likes of Fauci.  Trump, to his credit, was a not married to the “vaccine as the only cure” narrative.  He gave equal weight to possible theraputic solutions, even took those things himself when infected, and recovered quickly.  Despite what you say, Trump does not appear to me to a stupid man.  Quite the opposite.  Weird and flawed?  Yes, but clearly he is smart.  Not an intellectual and prone to hyperbole, but he is clever.  Very clever.  Don’t fall into the left’s trap of assigning stupidity to Republican presidencies.  That is just an ad hominum attempt to end debate as soon as a conservative opens his mouth.  It’s false and cheap.

    I like DeSantis and admire his politics and his aggressive instincts, but as a governor, he had real power in setting actual policy.  Others overreacted while he watched and adjusted.  His approach to Covid 19 was conservative and worked.  Had Covid 19 turned out to be a terrible pathogen, he could have adjusted and still achieved a better result than the more power drunk panicked saviors in the blue states.  Remember, the states with the worst results where those who sent infected patients to nuring homes – NY, NJ, MI etc.  You know, Democrat Governers, real morons.

    And I must mention that there were significant monetary incentives to the admission of Covid 19 positive patients and for intubating them.  There was pressure to declare Covid 19 as THE cause of death on death certificates, not the real likely causes, multiple, age related and severe, comorbidities.  So we should challenge the 1MM Covid death assumptions.  The vast majority 0f those who died were old, beyond average life expectancy.  Covid 19 likely did nudge many of them along, but the virus needed significant help them to reach those pearly gates.

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  27. MarciN Member
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    @MarciN

    The entire pandemic-vaccine story has been confusing to researchers and the public, and it just gets blurrier by the second.

    There was a recent outbreak of covid in a nursing home on Cape Cod. According to our local paper in a story dated March 3, 2023:

    Windsor Skilled Nursing and Rehabilitation Center in South Yarmouth was facing a COVID-19 outbreak on Friday, with four resident deaths reported as of Wednesday.

    There were also 68 resident COVID-19 cases and 18 staff COVID-19 cases — 86 in total — as part of the current outbreak, as of Wednesday, according to the state Department of Public Health.

    By Friday, there were 72 active cases in total, with 15 cases cleared and considered no longer infectious, said Lisa Gaudet, vice president of business development and marketing at Integritus Healthcare. The nursing home operates under Integritus Healthcare, a nonprofit Massachusetts-based company offering senior housing and health care, memory care, hospice, and palliative care.

    The nursing and rehabilitation center is at 265 North Main St. The center currently has 89 residents, according to Gaudet.

    “We are in communication with the Department of Public Health and their rapid response team is working with us; and we are doing everything that we should be doing, in response to the outbreak,” Gaudet said Friday.

    State public health officials issued an admissions freeze notice to the facility on Tuesday in response to the outbreak. In addition, a state-supported rapid response team (RRT) was providing clinical support at the facility since Tuesday.

    Some anti-vaccine people would say that the vaccine caused this, and I suppose it’s possible. But I see that as only one possibility. 

    What’s strange about this outbreak is that Cape Cod is mostly very quiet right now for covid. The present covid rates otherwise are very low. My theory is that old people with low T cell production are actually the “vectors” we were so focused on at the beginning of the pandemic. I think the vaccine is working in the over-55 age cohort, that it wears off, as the Moderna said it would originally, in five months, which is why everyone got it all at once. 

    Perhaps it’s a new variant. I know we’ll find out eventually, but careful research takes time, much longer than an upper respiratory virus takes to circulate. 

    The variables are so hard to isolate at this point that it will be even harder going forward to get an accurate picture of (a) how this bug spreads within a geographic area and (b) how effective the vaccine is and how it interacts with the covid microorganism in the immune system, and (c) how the flu has been and is continuing to be affected by it. 

    We’re three years into this, and I still have hundreds of questions I can’t find answers to. 

     

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  28. Buckpasser Member
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    @Buckpasser

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    There is no question of Fauci’s culpability, but many politicians, including the, for some, Sainted Donald Trump. His inadequacies as a leader cannot be ignored, particularly when compared to the manner in which Ron DeSantis handled the virus in Florida. The intellectual differences between DeSantis, an intelligent, informed, and actively intellectual politician and Trump who, but for the accident of birth, might have grown up to be a used car salesman is stunning. Trump’s ignorance of basic biology, his germophobia, and his other neurotic conditions made it possible for a drug pushing huckster like Fauci to intimidate him and to, in essence, create public policy for which Trump bore the responsibility. A piece of work like Fauci can only gain the power and control he did under a weak and indecisive leader. What followed was a mix of the political insanity of the left and a senile buffoon who Fauci could manipulate with the grace of a master puppeteer, all reinforced by the ridiculous Orangeman Bad narrative.

    In selecting the next Republican to run for the presidency let’s choose someone with more than the average brain power, someone able to read, study, learn and apply the information about any rising crisis, and to take sensible, thoughtful actions which do not destroy our nation and allow unnecessary deaths so that some elite-owned institution can profit.

    The reason why Trump is not still President is because he handed the presidential reins to fauci.  Also, he should have told everyone to go back to work after the”two weeks to flatten the curve”.

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  29. cdor Member
    cdor
    @cdor

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    There is no question of Fauci’s culpability, but many politicians, including the, for some, Sainted Donald Trump. His inadequacies as a leader cannot be ignored, particularly when compared to the manner in which Ron DeSantis handled the virus in Florida. The intellectual differences between DeSantis, an intelligent, informed, and actively intellectual politician and Trump who, but for the accident of birth, might have grown up to be a used car salesman is stunning. Trump’s ignorance of basic biology, his germophobia, and his other neurotic conditions made it possible for a drug pushing huckster like Fauci to intimidate him and to, in essence, create public policy for which Trump bore the responsibility. A piece of work like Fauci can only gain the power and control he did under a weak and indecisive leader. What followed was a mix of the political insanity of the left and a senile buffoon who Fauci could manipulate with the grace of a master puppeteer, all reinforced by the ridiculous Orangeman Bad narrative.

    In selecting the next Republican to run for the presidency let’s choose someone with more than the average brain power, someone able to read, study, learn and apply the information about any rising crisis, and to take sensible, thoughtful actions which do not destroy our nation and allow unnecessary deaths so that some elite-owned institution can profit.

    The reason why Trump is not still President is because he handed the presidential reins to fauci. Also, he should have told everyone to go back to work after the”two weeks to flatten the curve”.

    Although, wasn’t it Vice President Pence to whom he handed the reins?

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  30. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Eugene Kriegsmann (View Comment):

    There is no question of Fauci’s culpability, but many politicians, including the, for some, Sainted Donald Trump. His inadequacies as a leader cannot be ignored, particularly when compared to the manner in which Ron DeSantis handled the virus in Florida. The intellectual differences between DeSantis, an intelligent, informed, and actively intellectual politician and Trump who, but for the accident of birth, might have grown up to be a used car salesman is stunning. Trump’s ignorance of basic biology, his germophobia, and his other neurotic conditions made it possible for a drug pushing huckster like Fauci to intimidate him and to, in essence, create public policy for which Trump bore the responsibility. A piece of work like Fauci can only gain the power and control he did under a weak and indecisive leader. What followed was a mix of the political insanity of the left and a senile buffoon who Fauci could manipulate with the grace of a master puppeteer, all reinforced by the ridiculous Orangeman Bad narrative.

    In selecting the next Republican to run for the presidency let’s choose someone with more than the average brain power, someone able to read, study, learn and apply the information about any rising crisis, and to take sensible, thoughtful actions which do not destroy our nation and allow unnecessary deaths so that some elite-owned institution can profit.

    The reason why Trump is not still President is because he handed the presidential reins to fauci. Also, he should have told everyone to go back to work after the”two weeks to flatten the curve”.

    And that would have been the first impeachment.

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