Asking About This Latin Mass Thing with the FBI…

 

Let me start with a link. This article contains what appears to be a copy of what the FBI calls an “intelligence product,” which the rest of us might call a position paper or something like that. The “product” is by an “intelligence analyst” at the Richmond Field Office and speculates that Catholics who attend Latin Mass bear watching as potential white supremacists, and that sources should be recruited to infiltrate certain churches.

You can’t make this stuff up. 

Twenty state Attorneys General have written to Merrick Garland and expressed outrage. FBI retracted the document.  Jim Jordan’s committee is looking at it. OK. But this sounds like it’s going to get the Gas Stove Treatment: we’ve never thought of doing such a thing, you’re crazy to make such a claim, and why the heck shouldn’t we?

Am I taking crazy pills?

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  1. Autistic License Coolidge
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    GFHandle (View Comment):

    Maybe the FBI does take orders from the Pope.

    We do have a Devout Catholic as president and people were concerned that JFK would be taking orders from the Pope. You could be on to something.

    The President is the most devout Catholic to ever hold the office; just ask him. He probably should also be named Father of the Year.

    As one of my baptist friends once told me, “The Catholic church is a false church.”

    I guess we should be heartened that Biden and Pelosi make such a show of being Catholic.  When their successors deny it loudly we’re in for a new level of trouble.  

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  2. Autistic License Coolidge
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    GFHandle (View Comment):

    Maybe the FBI does take orders from the Pope.

    I was just going to say, what’s this beef the Pope has against the Latin Mass? Shouldn’t he be happy people are in church?

    https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/vatican-latin-mass/2023/02/21/id/1109463/

    Maybe he’s like the GOP leadership? Not the right type of new people showing up.

    I’d always thought that the reason was to look modern and accessible.  But I grew up in a mill town with Italian, Polish, and many other immigrants, and Latin put us on a level playing field.  After Vatican II, we became English Speakers and Others, and the Catholic Church wound up with fewer Spanish speakers, because language now divided the congregation.  I don’t know how big a deal this was, but it was something.  

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  3. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    This reminds me of the years immediately after the September 11, 2001 attacks. The FBI was doing lots of investigation of Muslims communities to see if they could find terrorist networks in those communities.

    These days it is the Catholic communities where the FBI is doing investigations.

    The time when RCs hijacked four planes was terrible….

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  4. Stad Coolidge
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    GFHandle (View Comment):

    Maybe the FBI does take orders from the Pope.

    We do have a Devout Catholic as president and people were concerned that JFK would be taking orders from the Pope. You could be on to something.

    The President is the most devout Catholic to ever hold the office; just ask him. He probably should also be named Father of the Year.

    Maybe he should replace Francis . . .

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  5. Michael Brehm Lincoln
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    This reminds me of the years immediately after the September 11, 2001 attacks. The FBI was doing lots of investigation of Muslims communities to see if they could find terrorist networks in those communities.

    These days it is the Catholic communities where the FBI is doing investigations.

    The time when RCs hijacked four planes was terrible….

    You’d better look out, the Church Militant has missals and canons.

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  6. Charlotte Member
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    Michael Brehm (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    This reminds me of the years immediately after the September 11, 2001 attacks. The FBI was doing lots of investigation of Muslims communities to see if they could find terrorist networks in those communities.

    These days it is the Catholic communities where the FBI is doing investigations.

    The time when RCs hijacked four planes was terrible….

    You’d better look out, the Church Militant has missals and canons.

    Nice! 

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  7. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    The US government has always disliked Catholics.   Mainly because it used to be a Protestant nation.  Of the two POTUS that were Catholic one got killed and the other is not really a Catholic by most Catholic standards.  So a Biden (claims Catholic) ran FBI going after Catholics should be expected.  Given that Biden says the current Pope thinks he is great it may even be part of a larger effort of removing the more traditional Catholic so the Pope / Left / Biden get their ways.  

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  8. The Reticulator Member
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    Autistic License (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Autistic License: Let me start with a link.

    Do you happen to know of a way to download that to a PDF or something to make it readable for my old eyes?

    (I see I could download the page images and use Pixillion to convert them, but my trial of Pixillion has expired and it costs nearly $40/year.)

    I was able to do image copies from the site, but they’d be huge to post here. I tried to use OneNote, which I’d long used as a Poor Man’s OCR, but it doesn’t copy text from pictures anymore in the desktop version.

    I think I could put a trial copy of Pixillion on a different computer (and maybe register with a different e-mail). 

    I wish I had known OneNote could do OCR.  Back when it was just coming into existence the product manager for OneNote assured me (in a comment forum) that OneNote wouldn’t be a closed system. I’d be able to get the data out of it that I put into it.  I don’t know if that’s true.  Sometimes the frustrations with Evernote make me think I should give OneNote a try.   But I never have gotten around to it. 

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