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Asking About This Latin Mass Thing with the FBI…
Let me start with a link. This article contains what appears to be a copy of what the FBI calls an “intelligence product,” which the rest of us might call a position paper or something like that. The “product” is by an “intelligence analyst” at the Richmond Field Office and speculates that Catholics who attend Latin Mass bear watching as potential white supremacists, and that sources should be recruited to infiltrate certain churches.
You can’t make this stuff up.
Twenty state Attorneys General have written to Merrick Garland and expressed outrage. FBI retracted the document. Jim Jordan’s committee is looking at it. OK. But this sounds like it’s going to get the Gas Stove Treatment: we’ve never thought of doing such a thing, you’re crazy to make such a claim, and why the heck shouldn’t we?
Am I taking crazy pills?Published in Law
Maybe the FBI does take orders from the Pope.
The Gas Stove Treatment and the FBI memo are both good examples of Rod Dreher’s Law of Merited Impossibility, which states:
No, you’re living in America in the 21st century.
Everybody look busy, Jesus is coming.
We do have a Devout Catholic as president and people were concerned that JFK would be taking orders from the Pope. You could be on to something.
What WC said. I think someone else has been having the crazy pills, including the FBI.
I suspect it is an agency wide initiative. DOJ has targeted several individual traditional Catholics with federal violations related to protesting at abortion clinics, and Richmond FBI wanted to jump on the bandwagon. The bulletin of the traditional Catholic Church Richmond usually includes the date and time for a rosary near the Richmond abortion center. It would be great to do a FOIA on DOJ and FBI regarding targeting of traditional Catholics. I bet it would be similar to the school board initiative. They folded so quick they must have a lot to hide.
Do you happen to know of a way to download that to a PDF or something to make it readable for my old eyes?
(I see I could download the page images and use Pixillion to convert them, but my trial of Pixillion has expired and it costs nearly $40/year.)
I’m glad Biden is helping Ukraine to fight off Putin’s army, but I wish he wasn’t making his administration more like Putin’s every day.
I hope our Congress finds out at what level it was prepared and what status it had. We shouldn’t be left suspecting or speculating on something like this.
I don’t think it should have been done at any level, even if it was just one of a thousand things that are assigned just to give interns something to practice on. (What level of security clearance do interns get, anyway?) But remedial measures depend on knowing just how it came about. If the DOJ refuses to give that information, then more drastic remedial measures might be in order.
I was just going to say, what’s this beef the Pope has against the Latin Mass? Shouldn’t he be happy people are in church?
Maybe he’s like the GOP leadership? Not the right type of new people showing up.
I suspect since the Left has infiltrated the DOJ/FBI the new mission is essentially to monitor and “investigate” institutions which oppose Leftist orthodoxies (ie: abortion).
There really is no valid law enforcement justification to “investigate” the Catholic Church or different aspects of the Catholic Church, so the geniuses at the Biden/Garland DOJ/FBI simply pulled out their favorite boogyman justification, the phantom white supremacist, which is obviously ridiculous and in a sane world would result in some disciplinary repercussions to the DOJ/FBI bosses who hatched this absurd “investigation” …..
However, now that these Leftist thugs got caught, the DOJ/FBI will do their usual hokey pokey slow walk of any cooperation with (R) Congressional investigation, have idiots Wray and Garland sit in the hot seat and say as little as possible and pretend they are trying to help, and these corrupt Lefties can rely on their comrades in the (D)/MSM/BigTech to simply ignore the malfeasance and move on to more important news stories like the latest shooting down of a balloon.
This is all there is too it.
Government in the hands of the left is to be turned against their opponents.
Alex, I’ll take Categories and Groups Least Likely to Support a Woke Agenda for $500, please.
The only consolation is that so many of those out to get us really are morons.
This reminds me of the years immediately after the September 11, 2001 attacks. The FBI was doing lots of investigation of Muslims communities to see if they could find terrorist networks in those communities.
These days it is the Catholic communities where the FBI is doing investigations.
The President is the most devout Catholic to ever hold the office; just ask him. He probably should also be named Father of the Year.
As one of my baptist friends once told me, “The Catholic church is a false church.”
Generic Government Apology:
“We’re sorry we got caught. We promise we’ll be sneakier about it in the future.”
There might be an important element missing from one of these two situations that resulted in FBI investigations.
Yes, for heaven’s sake.
The Richmond field office “intelligence product” is merely a symptom of a rotten institutional culture.
That the FBI even considers “potential white supremacists” to be a threat is itself evidence of failure. There is zero evidence of any notable or frequent criminal actions by “white supremacists,” so focusing on “potential white supremacists” is at a minimum a colossal waste of resources.
There is even less evidence that even if one could find isolated instances of criminal activity by “white supremacists” that there is any connection to any aspect of the Roman Catholic Church.
Again, with slave traffickers, drug cartels, and criminal gangs running rampant across the United States, with black race riots being coordinated across the country, that the FBI is exhibiting any interest at all in “white supremacists” who have exhibited no significant criminal activity shows the FBI has a seriously flawed sense of priorities that comes most likely from a rotten institutional culture.
Because they support all those other things. They refused to investigate the Olympic women being abused
Their leadership is in on it.
If it weren’t so disgusting and angering to have our own government hate us, it would be amusing that “Catholic” churchgoers are a target due to the threat of “white” supremacy. It’s almost as if they’ve never been in a “Catholic” church during a Mass (they happen daily, btw). It’s called the “universal” church for a reason. Not everyone is “white,” but we are all brothers and sisters in Christ, no matter what our skin hue. Someone might want to explain it to the idiots.
They might be bigots more than idiots.
I don’t even think they’re anti-Catholic bigots. I think the FBI is acting on the part of the Left, and anyone who resists the agenda will be targeted. Orthodox Catholics are just first in the lineup, apparently. Probably because they’re known for insisting that life begins at conception, that men and women are not interchangeable in marriage or otherwise, and that it is immoral to sexualize children in school, in media, or anywhere else.
The FBI is full of leftist bullies, and that’s putting it mildly. The Left has totalitarian impulses it cannot resist, which is why we should never, ever have allowed it to accrue power in any of our institutions.
They have a different definition of “white.”
One difference. After 9/11 mohammedan islam was officially (by President Bush) declared “a religion of peace”. This president and his DOJ/FBI have designated traditional Catholicism as “terrorist” “white supremacy”.
I was able to do image copies from the site, but they’d be huge to post here. I tried to use OneNote, which I’d long used as a Poor Man’s OCR, but it doesn’t copy text from pictures anymore in the desktop version.
Is it possible that they’re just doing a kind of compliance bias, where the law abiding are simply easier to deal with if you’re trying to avoid effort and risk?