From a Butt of Malmsey to a Bowl of Wonderdog: Where Is the Bard When We Need Him?

 

February 18, 2023, is the 545th anniversary of the death of George Plantaganet, Duke of Clarence. He was the middle child in a trio of brothers, the other two of whom actually both made it to the throne, as Edward IV and Richard III.

Shortly after his older brother Edward was crowned in 1461, George began a series of plots in concert with Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick (Warwick the Kingmaker). He married the Earl’s daughter, instigated an insurrection in the North, and, in the chaotic aftermath, left for France with his wife. Shortly thereafter, Edward–the king of a now destabilized country–fled to Flanders as king-in-exile, and the former King Henry VI, who’d been deposed some years earlier, resumed the throne, but briefly, as Edward soon raised an army, invaded England, and retook the throne in the spring of 1471. (Richard Neville was killed in the fighting.)

Edward and George soon reconciled, and George himself became the Earl of Warwick the following year.

However, a sense of loyalty towards his elder brother, the King, apparently wasn’t George’s strong suit, and it wasn’t too many years later that he was conspiring against Edward again, presumably with the intention of bettering his own prospects as what one might call the lifelong “spare,” when it came to putting himself on the throne.  To forestall that event, Edward had his brother thrown into prison, and in January 1478, presented charges to Parliament.  Following the passage of a bill of attainder, George was sentenced to death.  The sentence was carried out privately on February 18, 1478, and shortly thereafter, the story began to circulate that he had been thrust, head-first, into a butt of Malmsey wine.

William Shakespeare, of course, attributes most of George’s woes to his archvillain Richard III, the “spare” spare (at least Charles and Diana avoided that additional complication) who frames poor George for treason and then arranges his death in the Tower.  After a lengthy scene in which George pleads for his life with the two murderers sent by Richard, one of them stabs him and drowns him in the conveniently placed full barrel of wine. (Since its availability apparently surprised no one, a person can only conclude that such a thing was a common prop in English jail cells at the time.)

Fast forward to 2023, and the latest royal spat between the “heir” and the “spare.”  (Proving, once and for all, that the quote with multiple attributions: “Life isn’t one damn thing after another; it’s the same damn thing over and over again,” is quite accurate.)

As with most things these days, there’s little room for the pomp, ceremony, and grandeur of days gone by, and we’re left with what seems like a rather vindictive recounting of a banal and petty brotherly falling-out that doesn’t deserve either the ink it took to recount it, or the paper it’s printed on:

To set the scene:  William visits Harry at Nottingham Cottage the tiny, historic, home in which Harry and Meghan are enjoying the blissful early years of their married life. As Harry recounts it, William called Meghan “difficult, rude, and abrasive.” Harry got William a glass of water and attempted to defuse the situation. And then:

“He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

The mind boggles. One can only wonder, had poor old George Plantagenet survived his ordeal, what a story he would have told.

Or what Shakespeare would have made of it, and whether even he could imbue the present situation or any of its protagonists with any sense of dignity at all.

On second thought, probably not. There are some situations that just cannot be saved, and some stories, like sleeping dogs, should just be let lie.

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  1. Percival Thatcher
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    The last King Charles sent ancestors of mine off to America there to remaine and not to returne. (Some people just can’t take a joke.) One hundred and ten years later we made the separation mutual. We were invited back a couple of times in the last century to deal with problems of mutual concern. We came over, helped out, and went back home as soon as circumstances allowed; everyone was unfailingly polite, though.

    My unsolicited advice to them is: take good care of William, because it appears your spare has gone flat.

     

     

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  2. Arahant Member
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    Percival (View Comment):
    My unsolicited advice to them is: take good care of William, because it appears your spare has gone flat.

    Indeed. I don’t believe a word of the account quoted above. There are words for people like Harry, but I can’t think of any that fit within the CoC. Disparagement would be impossible.

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  3. Bob Thompson Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    The last King Charles sent ancestors of mine off to America there to remaine and not to returne. (Some people just can’t take a joke.) One hundred and ten years later we made the separation mutual. We were invited back a couple of times in the last century to deal with problems of mutual concern. We came over, helped out, and went back home as soon as circumstances allowed; everyone was unfailingly polite, though.

    My unsolicited advice to them is: take good care of William, because it appears your spare has gone flat.

     

     

    Today is my oldest Daughter’s birthday so I wish for a good day.

    Now the best records I and associated family members can put together says my Neville ancestor John arrived in Maryland in 1633 on a craft named the Ark and Dove, with another Neville named Richard of unknown relationship. I think history tells us that once past the first in line life was like a game of chance for the spares so this John and Richard Neville’s likely noble heritage is undetermined. John, at least, came as an indentured servant but apparently did very well in the colony.

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  4. Arahant Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    Maryland in 1633 on a craft named the Ark and Dove

    Some of my ancestors were also on the Ark. The Dove was a separate craft, more of a supply pinnace, as I remember.

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  5. Bob Thompson Member
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    She

    February 18, 2023 is the 545th anniversary of the death of George Plantaganet, Duke of Clarence.  He was the middle child in a trio of brothers, the other two of whom actually both made it to the throne, as Edward IV and Richard III.

    Just to illustrate how close the Neville’s were to George, his mother was a Neville and his wife was a Neville.

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  6. Bob Thompson Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    Maryland in 1633 on a craft named the Ark and Dove

    Some of my ancestors were also on the Ark. The Dove was a separate craft, more of a supply pinnace, as I remember.

    I think I knew that at some point but it slipped my mind. At least you recognized what I thought I was saying.

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  7. Arahant Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    At least you recognized what I thought I was saying.

    It’s very common to lump the two together. Once again, we come close to being related, although I wasn’t descended from the Nevilles on that craft that I know of. Somewhere we have to intersect.

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  8. Bob Thompson Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    At least you recognized what I thought I was saying.

    It’s very common to lump the two together. Once again, we come close to being related, although I wasn’t descended from the Nevilles on that craft that I know of. Somewhere we have to intersect.

    How about Abercrombie’s in West Georgia?  After the War for Independence I think my Abercrombies in South Carolina, after being on the wrong side, went west to join with the Native Americans.

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  9. Hang On Member
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    There’s always South Park when the Bard isn’t to be had. They’re doing a pretty good job.

    Harry and Meghan are reportedly not happy with the way they're portrayed in the episode.

    Harry and Markle are spoofed on a recent episode of "South Park," where they are referred to as the "dumb prince and his stupid wife."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTz–5_DYWM

     

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  10. Mad Gerald Coolidge
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    I’ll take dog’s bowl over a wine butt any day.

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  11. Arahant Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    How about Abercrombie’s in West Georgia?

    Nope, but my mother was born in Columbus. Can’t get much more West Georgia than that.

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  12. Arahant Member
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    Mad Gerald (View Comment):

    I’ll take dog’s bowl over a wine butt any day.

    Who you calling “wine butt?”

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  13. Flicker Coolidge
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    She: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

    Something’s missing in this.  Perhaps Harry didn’t mention that he spat in the glass of water and laughed when Will only noticed it after it was half drunk.  That’s the way I heard it anyway.

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  14. She Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    She: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

    Something’s missing in this. Perhaps Harry didn’t mention that he spat in the glass of water and laughed when Will only noticed it after it was half drunk. That’s the way I heard it anyway.

    LOL.  Here we go (courtesy of “Iambic Pentameter ‘R’ Us”):

    Heir: Into the glass he spatt, I know not why
    And then, forsooth, I set it down, half-drunk,

    Spare: He came at me, so fast, so very fast
    My necklace broke upon his unwoke touch.
    He had me on the floor; my back stretched out
    Upon the unforgiving dog bowl, it
    Becracked against my sorrowfulest spine
    Until, the pieces cutting into me,
    I roused myself and called the BBC

    Totally dreadful.  I know.  I’d advise you not to get me started.  Here or anywhere else.

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  15. Arahant Member
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    She (View Comment):
    I’d advise you not to get me started.  Here or anywhere else.

    Tempting. Very tempting.

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  16. Flicker Coolidge
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    She (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    She: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

    Something’s missing in this. Perhaps Harry didn’t mention that he spat in the glass of water and laughed when Will only noticed it after it was half drunk. That’s the way I heard it anyway.

    LOL. Here we go (courtesy of “Iambic Pentameter ‘R’ Us”):

    Heir: Into the glass he spatt, I know not why
    And then, forsooth, I set it down, half-drunk,

    Spare: He came at me, so fast, so very fast
    My necklace broke upon his unwoke touch.
    He had me on the floor; my back stretched out
    Upon the unforgiving dog bowl, it
    Becracked against my sorrowfulest spine
    Until, the pieces cutting into me,
    I roused myself and called the BBC

    Totally dreadful. I know. I’d advise you not to get me started. Here or anywhere else.

    Well, it did make me laugh out loud.

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  17. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    At least you recognized what I thought I was saying.

    It’s very common to lump the two together. Once again, we come close to being related, although I wasn’t descended from the Nevilles on that craft that I know of. Somewhere we have to intersect.

    How about Abercrombie’s in West Georgia? After the War for Independence I think my Abercrombies in South Carolina, after being on the wrong side, went west to join with the Native Americans.

    I once walked past the Ambercromie’s in the mall on Grape Road. 

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  18. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Can’t wait for William to ascend to the throne. 

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  19. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    My unsolicited advice to them is: take good care of William, because it appears your spare has gone flat.

    Indeed. I don’t believe a word of the account quoted above. There are words for people like Harry, but I can’t think of any that fit within the CoC. Disparagement would be impossible.

    Harry’s other royal title is Drama Queen. 

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