How Widespread Was FBI Interference in 2020 Election?

 

That Tweet by Senator Mike Lee brings up many questions.  We know that the FBI gave a false briefing to Twitter executives just before the 2020 election about potential Biden “hack and dump” with “disinformation.”   Now we have learned that the FBI gave a false briefing to Senators at the same time and warned them to keep it secret.

Here are my questions:

  • Why is this not the #1 story in the country?
  • What other Media companies got a briefing? Facebook? Google? Apple? ABC/NBC/CBS/…?
  • How many Senators got this briefing?
  • How many House members got this briefing?
  • Why did no Senator comment after it was public information?
  • Why did no Senator not use their Speech-and-debate immunity to blow the lid on this scam?
  • Who is running this country (because it sure wasn’t Trump)?
  • When is a coup a coup?
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  1. Nanocelt TheContrarian Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):

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    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):
    Contra Andrew McCarthy and pretty much all the commentators that opine on the subject, it is completely insufficient to “reform” the FBI, and the CIA.

    It might be necessary to try the reforms in order to learn of the insufficiency.

    Unfortunately the ones writing the reform legislation are the ones that fear the FBI. Witness Chuck Shumer’s comment about Trump criticizing the intelligenc e community being a dangerous move, as the intelligence community can hurt you. Which indeed they did, as they got him unelected. So that won’t work. At all. And we have proof positive thatALL of the former intelligence directors are abject liars. As they all knowingly lied when they signed the open letter calling Hunter’s laptop Russian disinformation. There is no hope of reform. There is only eradication, root, trunk, and branch.

    If reform means sitting back while reform legislation is written behind closed doors, that won’t work. But you won’t get any agencies abolished with that approach, either.

    Alas what is needed is a massive grassroots movement to restore liberty and the election of a dynamic and wise President (on the order of Washington or Lincoln) with a supportive Congress that will reverse the Century plus accretion of Progressive policies that have led to American serfdom. We no longer have a citizenry or a civilization capable of such a political and Spiritual Great Awakening.

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  2. Bob Thompson Member
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    Stina (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):
    Contra Andrew McCarthy and pretty much all the commentators that opine on the subject, it is completely insufficient to “reform” the FBI, and the CIA.

    It might be necessary to try the reforms in order to learn of the insufficiency.

    Unfortunately the ones writing the reform legislation are the ones that fear the FBI. Witness Chuck Shumer’s comment about Trump criticizing the intelligenc e community being a dangerous move, as the intelligence community can hurt you. Which indeed they did, as they got him unelected. So that won’t work. At all. And we have proof positive thatALL of the former intelligence directors are abject liars. As they all knowingly lied when they signed the open letter calling Hunter’s laptop Russian disinformation. There is no hope of reform. There is only eradication, root, trunk, and branch.

    If reform means sitting back while reform legislation is written behind closed doors, that won’t work. But you won’t get any agencies abolished with that approach, either.

    I don’t think anyone is ready for what it will take to remove the IC. But maybe, for now, we should abandon the fantasy that we have a constitutional government built on democracy and republicanism. We have a facade that’s being run by our DOD/intelligence officers.

    That doesn’t mean some people will feel like we live under an authoritarian regime with limited freedom. Some people will still feel free and others won’t. I think that’s normal under tyrants and authoritarians. But I think the ratio will keep getting worse until people are ready to fix it.

    I want to commend you @CM, I think you have pushed exactly the right button here. People still have choices but the numbers remaining are being reduced by the the types of choices being made and the range of choices remaining is missing the best ones. Bigness reduces, actually involves little, human cooperation and almost always results from comparatively poor choices and the way you have described what is happening shows why any recovery is a slow process until it is not.

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  3. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Stina (View Comment):
    we should abandon the fantasy that we have a constitutional government built on democracy and republicanism. We have a facade that’s being run by our DOD/intelligence officers.

    There was one a Roman Republic that became the Roman Empire.  There was one an American Republic, which some now refer to as the American Empire. 

    From Wikidiff:

    As nouns the difference between republic and empire

    is that republic is a state where sovereignty rests with the people or their representatives, rather than with a monarch or emperor; a country with no monarchy while empire is a political unit having an extensive territory or comprising a number of territories or nations and ruled by a single supreme authority.

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  4. The Reticulator Member
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    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):
    Contra Andrew McCarthy and pretty much all the commentators that opine on the subject, it is completely insufficient to “reform” the FBI, and the CIA.

    It might be necessary to try the reforms in order to learn of the insufficiency.

    Unfortunately the ones writing the reform legislation are the ones that fear the FBI. Witness Chuck Shumer’s comment about Trump criticizing the intelligenc e community being a dangerous move, as the intelligence community can hurt you. Which indeed they did, as they got him unelected. So that won’t work. At all. And we have proof positive thatALL of the former intelligence directors are abject liars. As they all knowingly lied when they signed the open letter calling Hunter’s laptop Russian disinformation. There is no hope of reform. There is only eradication, root, trunk, and branch.

    If reform means sitting back while reform legislation is written behind closed doors, that won’t work. But you won’t get any agencies abolished with that approach, either.

    Alas what is needed is a massive grassroots movement to restore liberty and the election of a dynamic and wise President (on the order of Washington or Lincoln) with a supportive Congress that will reverse the Century plus accretion of Progressive policies that have led to American serfdom. We no longer have a citizenry or a civilization capable of such a political and Spiritual Great Awakening.

    You’re not going to get there if there isn’t continuous public discussion of what is wrong and what needs to be fixed. Not just who is wrong, but what is wrong. 

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  5. Barfly Member
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    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):

    Alas what is needed is a massive grassroots movement to restore liberty and the election of a dynamic and wise President (on the order of Washington or Lincoln) with a supportive Congress that will reverse the Century plus accretion of Progressive policies that have led to American serfdom. We no longer have a citizenry or a civilization capable of such a political and Spiritual Great Awakening.

    Yes we do. As long as any one conscious mind is still running in a body that breathes and pulls life from the air, then We The People are capable of turning. 

    If it looks bleak from our point of view, then let’s try looking at it from theirs: “We are ascendant now, my brothers, but the light is always and everywhere a danger. It could burst thru our smoke clouds at the unlikeliest point and erase all we’ve done to lie to them. We should live in fear.”

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  6. Nanocelt TheContrarian Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):
    Contra Andrew McCarthy and pretty much all the commentators that opine on the subject, it is completely insufficient to “reform” the FBI, and the CIA.

    It might be necessary to try the reforms in order to learn of the insufficiency.

    Unfortunately the ones writing the reform legislation are the ones that fear the FBI. Witness Chuck Shumer’s comment about Trump criticizing the intelligenc e community being a dangerous move, as the intelligence community can hurt you. Which indeed they did, as they got him unelected. So that won’t work. At all. And we have proof positive thatALL of the former intelligence directors are abject liars. As they all knowingly lied when they signed the open letter calling Hunter’s laptop Russian disinformation. There is no hope of reform. There is only eradication, root, trunk, and branch.

    If reform means sitting back while reform legislation is written behind closed doors, that won’t work. But you won’t get any agencies abolished with that approach, either.

    Alas what is needed is a massive grassroots movement to restore liberty and the election of a dynamic and wise President (on the order of Washington or Lincoln) with a supportive Congress that will reverse the Century plus accretion of Progressive policies that have led to American serfdom. We no longer have a citizenry or a civilization capable of such a political and Spiritual Great Awakening.

    You’re not going to get there if there isn’t continuous public discussion of what is wrong and what needs to be fixed. Not just who is wrong, but what is wrong.

    Exactly. And that public discussion has been and is being squelched by the authoritarian government that we have. And the youth brainwashed, so that they will have no idea what liberty is. Pajama Boy and Julia are the future, as engineered by Progressive policies. They will live by lies. Only lies. There are signs of hope here and there that this may not be the end of human liberty, but it is on life support, and the Progressives are working overtime to pull the plug on the moribund body politic. They will rig the elections (as they clearly did in Arizona in particular) and the courts will not get involved, and the people will not be permitted to participate in any meaningful way in selecting their leaders, and they will be lied to endlessly, and will live by those lies. The entire society, as in the old Soviet Union, will live by lies (we are racists, fascists, climate deniers, homophobic, and, etc.) and the Big Lie (that we have freedom), as Solzhenitsyn predicted (prophesied?). 

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  7. Nanocelt TheContrarian Member
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    Barfly (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):

    Alas what is needed is a massive grassroots movement to restore liberty and the election of a dynamic and wise President (on the order of Washington or Lincoln) with a supportive Congress that will reverse the Century plus accretion of Progressive policies that have led to American serfdom. We no longer have a citizenry or a civilization capable of such a political and Spiritual Great Awakening.

    Yes we do. As long as any one conscious mind is still running in a body that breathes and pulls life from the air, then We The People are capable of turning.

    If it looks bleak from our point of view, then let’s try looking at it from theirs: “We are ascendant now, my brothers, but the light is always and everywhere a danger. It could burst thru our smoke clouds at the unlikeliest point and erase all we’ve done to lie to them. We should live in fear.”

    You are channeling Solzhenitsyn here, as in his piece when he was exiled from the Soviet Union–Live Not By Lies. I hope and pray you are right, and that we will turn.

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  8. The Reticulator Member
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    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):
    Exactly. And that public discussion has been and is being squelched by the authoritarian government that we have. And the youth brainwashed, so that they will have no idea what liberty is. Pajama Boy and Julia are the future, as engineered by Progressive policies. They will live by lies. Only lies. There are signs of hope here and there that this may not be the end of human liberty, but it is on life support, and the Progressives are working overtime to pull the plug on the moribund body politic. They will rig the elections (as they clearly did in Arizona in particular) and the courts will not get involved, and the people will not be permitted to participate in any meaningful way in selecting their leaders, and they will be lied to endlessly, and will live by those lies. The entire society, as in the old Soviet Union, will live by lies (we are racists, fascists, climate deniers, homophobic, and, etc.) and the Big Lie (that we have freedom), as Solzhenitsyn predicted (prophesied?). 

    It was interesting, though, that those Freedom Caucus members who held up the McCarthy speakership managed to get a lot of attention. The media and Establislhment Republicans worked hard not to talk to them to get their side of the story, but it was hard to completely suppress the story. 

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  9. Bob Thompson Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):
    Exactly. And that public discussion has been and is being squelched by the authoritarian government that we have. And the youth brainwashed, so that they will have no idea what liberty is. Pajama Boy and Julia are the future, as engineered by Progressive policies. They will live by lies. Only lies. There are signs of hope here and there that this may not be the end of human liberty, but it is on life support, and the Progressives are working overtime to pull the plug on the moribund body politic. They will rig the elections (as they clearly did in Arizona in particular) and the courts will not get involved, and the people will not be permitted to participate in any meaningful way in selecting their leaders, and they will be lied to endlessly, and will live by those lies. The entire society, as in the old Soviet Union, will live by lies (we are racists, fascists, climate deniers, homophobic, and, etc.) and the Big Lie (that we have freedom), as Solzhenitsyn predicted (prophesied?).

    It was interesting, though, that those Freedom Caucus members who held up the McCarthy speakership managed to get a lot of attention. The media and Establislhment Republicans worked hard not to talk to them to get their side of the story, but it was hard to completely suppress the story.

    The media and some well-known Ricochet members work hard to portray Freedom Caucus members and others who support traditional American values as “extremists”, sometimes even “domestic terrorists”.

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  10. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):
    The media and some well-known Ricochet members work hard to portray Freedom Caucus members and others who support traditional American values as “extremists”, sometimes even “domestic terrorists”.

    Commies and their fellow travelers have always been able to count on the useful idiots to amplify their power.

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  11. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Nanocelt TheContrarian (View Comment):

    SNIP

    Unfortunately, I believe the Senators didn’t speak out because they feared it would cause such public distrust in the institutions of the federal government that it might collapse altogether. This is a recurring theme. This is part of the reason for the extremely excessive classification of documents practiced by the Federal government. The FBI and CIA are no longer in the business of overthrowing foreign governments, as in Iran and Chile, or Panama for that matter, but in the business of constraining American elections and dictating the outcomes. And the main interest of the Federal Government is to make sure the citizenry do not know what they are doing. We are being enslaved surreptitiously.

    Contra Andrew McCarthy and pretty much all the commentators that opine on the subject, it is completely insufficient to “reform” the FBI, and the CIA. Both of which are rogue agencies and have no grounding in the Constitution. The only solution to preserving American liberty (regarding which the greatest clear and present danger is the American Intelligence Community) is to eliminate both the CIA and the FBI. Turn law enforcement back over to the States. Get rid of the Patriot Act, the DNI, Homeland Security (which enforces the opposite), and let the Defense Intelligence Agency handle our intelligence needs, with the absolutely strict, and life imprisonment penalty for violating, requirement that it pursue defense intelligence only, against foreign enemies. All of the “domestic enemies” are law abiding citizens at this point.

    SNIP

    If only some major talking head was shouting your comments from the rooftops.

    Every word is a necessary part of the overview of the situation.

    Every word is not only correct but terrifying.

     I am glad I do not live within travel distance of the DC Beltway. I would be spending what would be the last month of my life – if I lasted that long – stapling the following to the foreheads of every Congress critter, and every bureaucrat that I would be scoping out:

    “And the main interest of the Federal Government is to make sure the citizenry do not know what they are doing. We are being enslaved surreptitiously.

    “Contra Andrew McCarthy and pretty much all the commentators that opine on the subject, it is completely insufficient to “reform” the FBI, and the CIA. Both of which are rogue agencies and have no grounding in the Constitution. The only solution to preserving American liberty (regarding which the greatest clear and present danger is the American Intelligence Community) is to eliminate both the CIA and the FBI. Turn law enforcement back over to the States. Get rid of the Patriot Act, the DNI, Homeland Security (which enforces the opposite), and let the Defense Intelligence Agency handle our intelligence needs, with the absolutely strict, and life imprisonment penalty for violating, requirement that it pursue defense intelligence only, against foreign enemies. All of the “domestic enemies” are law abiding citizens at this point.”

     

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