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How Widespread Was FBI Interference in 2020 Election?
That Tweet by Senator Mike Lee brings up many questions. We know that the FBI gave a false briefing to Twitter executives just before the 2020 election about potential Biden “hack and dump” with “disinformation.” Now we have learned that the FBI gave a false briefing to Senators at the same time and warned them to keep it secret.
Here are my questions:
- Why is this not the #1 story in the country?
- What other Media companies got a briefing? Facebook? Google? Apple? ABC/NBC/CBS/…?
- How many Senators got this briefing?
- How many House members got this briefing?
- Why did no Senator comment after it was public information?
- Why did no Senator not use their Speech-and-debate immunity to blow the lid on this scam?
- Who is running this country (because it sure wasn’t Trump)?
- When is a coup a coup?
So they buried Ashley Biden’s diary, too.
Stacey Abrams didn’t organize 2000+ mules.
Because they’re afraid of the Intelligence Community, and to speak out not only threatens their cash intake, but possibly threatens their lives.
…. And entirely related, what ever happened to journalist James O’Keefe of Project Veritas arrest and confiscation of his computers and phones.
Save Ashley!!! …. and more likely the Biden Family from further embarrassment …. evidently the Hunty fiascos coupled with the Big Guy’s continued public cognitive decline are as much humiliation as the Biden family can bare.
Just one more incident of obvious FBI over reach, which gets lost in the sea of other FBI clusterfeckery, proving the FBI has become a blatantly strange Preatorian Guard for the deep state compromised (D).
…. and through it all the (D) maintains with a straight face that Trump(and Trumpists) are a threat to democracy.
Of course. They always accuse the other side of what they themselves are doing.
Lee specifically said Senators were briefed on this. The question is how many of them.
Wouldn’t the Senators who were briefed be warned it was classified and should go no further? Of course, that doesn’t explain Lee’s statement, but there’s a lot of that particular kind of unnecessary restriction applied to classified material. That facilitates the intelligence community and the law enforcement agencies in their quests for secrecy in the operations.
As @dong notes, Senators and Representatives have absolute immunity for things they say in Congress. They cannot be prosecuted even if they divulge classified info. Lee knows this, which is why I’m perplexed that he didn’t go to the well of the Senate and say anything.
I would guess Lee might have weighed how much intended positive effect he could get, or how little, and decided just to keep silent. I notice Mike Pompeo is reported to now be saying in his book that Trump told him to stop criticism of China complicity in covering up Covid origins in 2020. Same kind of thing, maybe.
I don’t trust Pompeo. C’mon, CIA. Automatically disqualified.
Some of them have affairs, drug use, gambling debts, and so on that they don’t want getting out. The government spooks have intel on that, right? Isn’t that the J. Edgar Hoover model?
I had never prior to your comment known that Congress critters can reveal classified info as long as they do it in Congress. But wouldn’t such a revelation have to be in a closed session?
And even with immunity from criminal charges that doesn’t preclude other negative effects including personal threats.
I suppose the Rules of the Senate or the House might be invoked, but my point is that members of Congress have complete immunity from prosecution for things they say in the Congress. They cannot even be questioned by the government. COTUS Article I, Section 6, Clause 1:
Now, other members of Congress could question them, I’m sure, and maybe even expel them. And as noted in a later comment, the IC could “mess” with them.
I would like to hear someone ask Marco Rubio questions about the activities of the SSCI during the Russia hoax. Burr and Warner too, but why bother.
Separation of powers. Members of Congress can only be punished, when acting as a legislator, by the body of Congress. They can be kicked out, but that seems very unlikely for something blatantly political.
I assume you are not referring to Seth Rich. We should believe that members of Congress are briefed on some of the secret ways the CIA has of making people and their families. Day 1 might be “Welcome to Congress, let me tell you about our ‘hear everything’ device and our ‘died suddenly’ ray gun…”
Yup. Recall when Harry Reid stood in the well of the Senate and accused Mitt Romney of not paying his taxes for 10 years. Reid knew it was a lie, and he said it with malice aforethought. He met the strict requirements to be sued for defamation and lose (Mitt is a public figure, after all). But since Reid said it in the Senate chamber, he was immune from any legal action. He could not be sued by Romney.
So Congress-critters are well aware of their immunity.
Yes, also Harry Reid was an unvarnished gutter snipe, completely lacking in ethics, standards or virtues. Now that he’s shuffled off I am sure he’s enjoying the just rewards of his life.
In theory, Reid could have been expelled, but that wasn’t going to happen.
Every election cycle those of us in the military are warned against violating the Hatch Act. This act prohibits using our position for partisan activity.
We have just witnessed the longest running (7 years plus…) Hatch Act violations in the history of the republic and yet nary a word from any corner of the media, mainstream, liberal, or conservative.
Just crickets.
If the Senators didn’t speak out because they were afraid for their careers or their lives, then we live in a police state, and have no freedom left. We can say with certainty that Joe Biden was not elected in a democratic process. That his election was engineered by intelligence agencies and massive federal government promulgated disinformation, and suppression of speech.
Does anyone disagree?
Unfortunately, I believe the Senators didn’t speak out because they feared it would cause such public distrust in the institutions of the federal government that it might collapse altogether. This is a recurring theme. This is part of the reason for the extremely excessive classification of documents practiced by the Federal government. The FBI and CIA are no longer in the business of overthrowing foreign governments, as in Iran and Chile, or Panama for that matter, but in the business of constraining American elections and dictating the outcomes. And the main interest of the Federal Government is to make sure the citizenry do not know what they are doing. We are being enslaved surreptitiously.
Contra Andrew McCarthy and pretty much all the commentators that opine on the subject, it is completely insufficient to “reform” the FBI, and the CIA. Both of which are rogue agencies and have no grounding in the Constitution. The only solution to preserving American liberty (regarding which the greatest clear and present danger is the American Intelligence Community) is to eliminate both the CIA and the FBI. Turn law enforcement back over to the States. Get rid of the Patriot Act, the DNI, Homeland Security (which enforces the opposite), and let the Defense Intelligence Agency handle our intelligence needs, with the absolutely strict, and life imprisonment penalty for violating, requirement that it pursue defense intelligence only, against foreign enemies. All of the “domestic enemies” are law abiding citizens at this point.
Along with this, the Department of Justice needs reform, top to bottom, as does the entire Federal Judiciary, which is corrupt to the core. We have no rule of law. We have no protection of civil liberties. WE have abuse and partisan use of such only.
There is no liberty in America. We indeed live in a police state.
Anyone who says differently is opposed to We the People of the United States of America and our Constitution. That federal officials are all sworn to uphold. They have all forsworn.
By the way, why did Mike Lee not speak out sooner? Why did he wait so long? What is he afraid of?
But at least he spoke out now. Thank you, Senator Lee, for that. What about Ted Cruz? What about Rand Paul? What about Marco Rubio? And Sen Rick Scott? And Tim Scott? And Lindsey Graham (what am I saying)? And Ron Johnson? Of course we would never expect anything from Mitt Romney. Except a stab in the back. And Mitch? et, tu? Sodom had more righteous men than the Senate has conservative Republicans who care for America.
Even without that bit from the Senators, we can indeed say that Biden’s election was engineered by intelligence agencies and massive federal government promulgated disinformation, and suppression of speech. The election was stolen in this manner, by these illegal activities. Whether or not there were all the supposed problems with the voting machines, 2,000 mules, etc.
@garyrobbins.
They would rather see an election effectively fixed than cause public distrust.
Stupid, cowardly, or both?
It might be necessary to try the reforms in order to learn of the insufficiency.
Unfortunately the ones writing the reform legislation are the ones that fear the FBI. Witness Chuck Shumer’s comment about Trump criticizing the intelligenc e community being a dangerous move, as the intelligence community can hurt you. Which indeed they did, as they got him unelected. So that won’t work. At all. And we have proof positive thatALL of the former intelligence directors are abject liars. As they all knowingly lied when they signed the open letter calling Hunter’s laptop Russian disinformation. There is no hope of reform. There is only eradication, root, trunk, and branch.
If reform means sitting back while reform legislation is written behind closed doors, that won’t work. But you won’t get any agencies abolished with that approach, either.
I don’t think anyone is ready for what it will take to remove the IC. But maybe, for now, we should abandon the fantasy that we have a constitutional government built on democracy and republicanism. We have a facade that’s being run by our DOD/intelligence officers.
That doesn’t mean some people will feel like we live under an authoritarian regime with limited freedom. Some people will still feel free and others won’t. I think that’s normal under tyrants and authoritarians. But I think the ratio will keep getting worse until people are ready to fix it.