An Appropriate Fiasco

 

The embarrassing squabble of the House GOP over the selection of Speaker is actually a pretty honest reflection of the state of the GOP in its two parts:  (1) A conventional, ideologically pale establishment that believes that avoiding controversy and offering modestly different alternatives will allow the party to win elections in those intervals when the commies running the other party overreach and upset the voters and (2) an angry faction that shares an (accurate) intuition that much is wrong with the country but which faction really has no idea what to do about it.  Neither side has anything resembling a long-term strategy.

Meanwhile, the woke rot has infected schools, government at all levels, media, and even corporate board rooms.  Perverts and anti-Americans no longer even have to win elections to keep gaining destructive power.  Elections are unlikely to be more than an occasional inconvenience.  Monolithic media power combined with corrupt new election processes funded by mind-boggling wealth means that the bad guys will never be badly beaten in elections even with weak candidates.  If Biden succeeds in burying Texas and Florida with a tsunami of illegals (i.e., voters-in-waiting) and perverts get another ten years of control of elementary and middle school education, the national identity and cultural memory could be largely erased.

Last fall, despite the manifest, unprecedented failures of the Biden regime, the GOP was out-hustled by the other party’s organizers, outthought by the manipulators of election processes, and proved to be pathetically incapable of overcoming a silly electoral message that was nothing more than Orange Man Bad–and the Orange Man was not even on the ballot.

The other side funds their perverts, NGOs, agencies, and grifters who staff its political operation.  It legislates advantages for their side whenever possible and faithfully parrots the party line at all times, however stupid.  Having momentum and purpose matters.  Voters tend to prefer the side that seems to have its stuff together, even if its platform is distasteful. In 1932, 52% of German voters pulled the lever for either the Nazis or the Communists instead of any of the other 60 (!?) parties in the clown show that comprised the moderate alternative.

We need leadership that aids the requisite fight at every level and does so with skill, savvy and long game.  Regardless of who is the next Speaker, the leader we need is not likely to emerge from the current GOP congressional leadership.

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  1. Manny Coolidge
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    BDB (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    At what point in this fiasco a career limiting move by these 20 hold outs? They’re not supported by the Trump wing of the party, they’re not supported by the economic, military, or social conservatives. They’re not supported by any wing of the party. They’re not even supported by the conservative commentators. They’re a wing in themselves with no leadership support. It seems to me if they don’t have huge support back home, they’re not going to last long.

    Oh but they are supported by the “Trump wing”. More than Trump is these days.

    Who supports them?  Perhaps I haven’t paid enough attention to the reactions. People here supports them?  I’m honestly asking. And what’s the goal?

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  2. BDB Inactive
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    Manny (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    At what point in this fiasco a career limiting move by these 20 hold outs? They’re not supported by the Trump wing of the party, they’re not supported by the economic, military, or social conservatives. They’re not supported by any wing of the party. They’re not even supported by the conservative commentators. They’re a wing in themselves with no leadership support. It seems to me if they don’t have huge support back home, they’re not going to last long.

    Oh but they are supported by the “Trump wing”. More than Trump is these days.

    Who supports them? Perhaps I haven’t paid enough attention to the reactions. People here supports them? I’m honestly asking. And what’s the goal?

    “The goal” has been discussed a lot, even here.  More on that earlier.

    As far as whether the Trump wing supports McCarthy or the holdouts, I refer you to patriots.win.

    WARNING: That site is not for the faint of heart.  But it is without a doubt the authority on what “the Trump wing” has to say on any topic under the sun.  The most Trump-supporting site in the universe (Rule #1: “Trump Supporters — Our community is a high-energy rally for supporters of President Trump”) is going through debate as to Trump’s appropriate role going forward, yet there is NO DOUBT that the holdouts are right to oppose McCarthy.

    Don’t complain to me what you find there.  It’s not run like this place.

    I did warn you.

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  3. The Reticulator Member
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    BDB (View Comment):
    More on that earlier.

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  4. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    Manny (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    At what point in this fiasco a career limiting move by these 20 hold outs? They’re not supported by the Trump wing of the party, they’re not supported by the economic, military, or social conservatives. They’re not supported by any wing of the party. They’re not even supported by the conservative commentators. They’re a wing in themselves with no leadership support. It seems to me if they don’t have huge support back home, they’re not going to last long.

    Oh but they are supported by the “Trump wing”. More than Trump is these days.

    Who supports them? Perhaps I haven’t paid enough attention to the reactions. People here supports them? I’m honestly asking. And what’s the goal?

    Watch the Michael Knowles interview with Lauren Bobert and you will see the goals explained clearly and how McCarthy thought he could ignore the HFC entirely. I’m guessing that math isn’t his strong suit since it was apparent  efore Jan 3 that there were more than five solid no votes for him. His treatment of them and his attemp to now sideline amd punish them has  urged that bridge. The first job of the Speaker is to get elected. If you cannot whip the votes then you don’t deserve the Chair. To male it easy on you to not have to watch the 10 min interview, the goals are:

    – Motion to Vacate the Chair by 1 member 

    – Bring the Texas Border Plan to the Floor

    – Regular order for bills (she doesn’t explicitly say that)

    – all earmarks as individual votes

    – amendments that cut spending always allowed to be brought to the Floor for a vote. 

    I might be missing one or two, but I think you can agree that none of these are so out of the pale that McCarthy should have denied them.  Ut he did, and not in a way that brought the Caucus together. At some point he is going to realize that he cannot win, he hasn’t in three days so far so it might be a bit longer, but if he had listened to my advice after the election this wouldn’t have been an issue at all. 

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  5. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Manny (View Comment):
    The fundamental problem is that we’re a minority party in a country that is left of center.

    But the majority of people want their Congressional Rep involved in the budget process.   Pelosi put in a place a process where the spending bill was written by unknown person(s) and then given to members to approve or else.  

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  6. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    BDB (View Comment):
    There is a straight line connecting the Tea Party, Trump, and this “new” thing going on — it’s actually the old thing, and we remember.

    The USA economy is the largest in the world and as is its credit limit.   There are a million Hunter Biden’s in the world that have committed their lives to extracting as much income/wealth/power as possible from American workers.   They are leaches and they will do anything and say anything to prevent cutting off the teat.  They are in positions of wealth and power and cutting them off will be a huge fight.  The days of comfort are over.

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  7. Manny Coolidge
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):
    The fundamental problem is that we’re a minority party in a country that is left of center.

    But the majority of people want their Congressional Rep involved in the budget process. Pelosi put in a place a process where the spending bill was written by unknown person(s) and then given to members to approve or else.

    That seems to have been going on well before Pelosi’s speakership. At least my impression. 

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  8. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge
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    Modus Ponens (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):
    Is that the party making bad decisions or the fact that those issues run against the general will of Americans? Is it because those politicians are acting in their political self interest?

    That’s really the central question of the past 20 years. I’d answer it by turning it on the opposing party, as I’ve done elsewhere. How have the D’s successfully pushed insane ideas on a right-leaning nation? Obamacare was not the will of the voters. It was forced through during a period of complete democrat control and cost them greatly. But what was important was that the barbed bill had been pushed through, and will remain the law of the land in perpetuity.

    With that example in mind, did the Democrats make bad decisions or push issues that run against the general will of Americans? Yes.

    Did the Democrats act in their political self interest? That depends on the time span being considered. If was a loser for them in the short term, because Americans still believed them to be extreme. Over time, however, the memory of pre-Obamacare times fade and people get used to the idea. Now discourse shifts even further left. This applies to pretty much every leftist crusade, from healthcare to transexualism to objective reality itself.

    This ratcheting analogy is accurate.  It’s why they push so hard, knowing that they won’t get everything, but what they do get, stays – and becomes the jumping off point for the next thing.

    They are small leaps, Obamacare was a big leap, and wound up as a half-measure.  We constantly respond to the leaps, the incremental growth in gov’t, trading budget favors for allowing the accretion of gov’t to continue, all in the wrong direction.

    Our political incentives are to continue doing this.  Hence McCarthy.  And why no one will risk their next election by tackling the frightening horror of entitlement spending and unfunded liabilities, which will eventually cost us the economy, and take decades to fix, as we have to pay for what was promised, and can only do so by borrowing even more, cutting benefits, and raising taxes on the middle class.

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  9. Gary Robbins Member
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    I think that we need the best of all worlds which would be to nominate a successful Republican Governor who has shut down the wokesters.   DeSantis, Youngkin, Abbott, Kemp, Ducey and Noem come to mind, but I really don’t have a problem with any of our Governors.

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  10. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I think that we need the best of all worlds which would be to nominate a successful Republican Governor who has shut down the wokesters. DeSantis, Youngkin, Abbott, Kemp, Ducey and Noem come to mind, but I really don’t have a problem with any of our Governors.

    Not Abbott.  He has no charisma and is tepid on all issues.  

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  11. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I think that we need the best of all worlds which would be to nominate a successful Republican Governor who has shut down the wokesters. DeSantis, Youngkin, Abbott, Kemp, Ducey and Noem come to mind, but I really don’t have a problem with any of our Governors.

    Not Abbott. He has no charisma and is tepid on all issues.

    He isn’t exactly charismatic for sure. He is also someone who paid his dues in Texas until he got his turn at rhe Governor’s Mansion. He wouldn’t be a bad President, but he would excite people to vote for him. Now if he was a Democrat they would adore that he is confined to a wheel chair and he would be a historic President. 

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